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Throttle slow to return

Started by BudMan, Mon 03, Jan 2011, 10:17:59

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BudMan

I guess "Throttle slower than most other Valks to return to idle" would be a longer but better title. :crazy2:
My throttle does return to idle with no true "sticking" but as Chris and Ricky have pointed out, it needs lubrication to avoid a failure in the future.  OK, I will agree to that.  Now the question; is there a way to have positive spring closure of the throttle and yet not have to hold so much pressure while riding?  I have a rebuilt right shoulder that gives me fits on a long ride some times.
I have a "Cramp Buster" on my Magna and it works well, but I seldom ride it as far at one setting as I do the Valk. 
I have never owned a Harley that was new enough to use throttle return springs.  Just the weight of your hand on the grip will hold the old Pan Head where you want it.   :D
I think I see lubricated throttle cables and a cruise control in my future. :roll:
Buddy
Tecumseh OK
MOOT# 263
VRCC # 30158
1948 EL Harley
2013 F6B Delux
"I rarely end up where I was intending to go, but often I end up somewhere that I needed to be,"
Dirk Gently; Holistic Detective

Chrisj CMA

I use a throttle boss......it shares the force between the wrist and the palm and makes it very easy....the other thing you can do is get a cheapo throttle lock and adjust it so its always putting a tiny drag force on the grip.....not enough to stop auto return but just to take off some pressure

BudMan

Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Mon 03, Jan 2011, 10:35:17...get a cheapo throttle lock and adjust it so its always putting a tiny drag force on the grip.....not enough to stop auto return but just to take off some pressure
Hmmm, now that's an "elegant solution". :cooldude:  (No, I'm not an engineer, but I do play one at work.) :2funny:
Buddy
Tecumseh OK
MOOT# 263
VRCC # 30158
1948 EL Harley
2013 F6B Delux
"I rarely end up where I was intending to go, but often I end up somewhere that I needed to be,"
Dirk Gently; Holistic Detective

Ricky-D

2000_Valkyrie_Interstate

sugerbear

do you have the 1/8n play in the cable?

too tight will slow down the return.



Farther

Quote from: sugerbear on Mon 03, Jan 2011, 18:52:41
do you have the 1/8n play in the cable?  too tight will slow down the return.
How would reduction in the free play slow down the return?
Thanks,
~Farther

Bobbo

Quote from: Farther on Tue 04, Jan 2011, 09:43:41
Quote from: sugerbear on Mon 03, Jan 2011, 18:52:41
do you have the 1/8n play in the cable?  too tight will slow down the return.
How would reduction in the free play slow down the return?

It causes the throttle tube to drag on the handlebar.


Pete

Weaken the throttle spring or replace with a smaller one, or remove it all together.

JUST BE AWARE:
That you are now relying on the return cable to close the throttles. If it breaks or mal-functions, reach for ignition switch/kill switch to stop the run-away.

I do not recommend this approach, but have seen it done.

As for the 1/8 inch play, I never liked play in my throttle cable, so I carefully adjust it out. As cited above if you take out more than the play it will BIND, and may be slow to return or NOT return at all.

Budman be careful the solution may be "a hazard to you health", and check the free play.





BudMan

OK, that does it for me!
After being forced to really look at the available options for this situation, I think the only solution I would be comfortable with is a properly adjusted throttle (with minimal slack) and a cruise control for open road operation.
Thanks so much to everyone for their suggestions and cautions! It's going to be in the single digits next week, so I think it will be a good time to research the Cruise Control Mod!
Buddy
Tecumseh OK
MOOT# 263
VRCC # 30158
1948 EL Harley
2013 F6B Delux
"I rarely end up where I was intending to go, but often I end up somewhere that I needed to be,"
Dirk Gently; Holistic Detective

sugerbear

i had a vistacruise on my previous valk and liked it.
have a different one now and don't care for it. when i change grips i'll prolly put a vistacruise on.



Farther

Quote from: Bobbo on Tue 04, Jan 2011, 09:47:53
Quote from: Farther on Tue 04, Jan 2011, 09:43:41
Quote from: sugerbear on Mon 03, Jan 2011, 18:52:41
do you have the 1/8n play in the cable?  too tight will slow down the return.
How would reduction in the free play slow down the return?
It causes the throttle tube to drag on the handlebar.
I don't think there is any magic in 1/8" free play as long as you have some freeplay when the bars are at full lock both ways.
Thanks,
~Farther

sugerbear

yea 1/8 in is what the book calls for, but as long as it isn't too tight. i try to take all the slack i can without binding.