axle nuts

[Jruby38]

Does anybody use blue locktite on the axle bolts when you torque them up?   I don,t think it will hurt and a little cheep insurance.

[John U.]

I wouldn't use locktite on them. It isn't necesary, once they are torqued down they won't loosen by themselves. Also, the locktite would act as a lubricant and throw the torque values off. Might easily result in an overtorqued axle.

[9Ball]

you're looking for a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.  Torque to the specified value and you're good.

[R J]

Kind sir.

Find your tube of Locktite, jump in your car or on the bike and take off down the road.    When ya come to a nice grassy cliff, toss that firkin tube of sheet into the brush.

Then forget where it was ya threw it.   

If ya process the torquing correctly, you do not need that crap.     Only Harley Riders need it due to all the vibration.

When we hire a Tech, we tell them right up front, the only thing allowed on our customers vewhicles is Anti seize.   Get caught with any of the Locktite crap on your work area or in your tool box, go washup and get out of here, you are done, if possible take your tool box with ya.

[Hook#3287]

While I agree that Locktite should NOT be used on the axle bolts, Honda specs call for Locktite type adhesives (Honda calls it "Locking Agent") in many locations, i.e. timing belt tentioner bolts, the bolt in the bottom of the right side fork.

Isn't Locktite a locking agent?

[John U.]

Yes it is, and you are correct, there are places where it should be used; brake rotor bolts come to mind.

[alph]

sometimes the "book" is written because the auther doesn't want to be visited by mr. attorney........

the only time i use lock tight is when the darn nut/bolt repeatedly comes loose, and i don't have a lock nut (which by the way is a "locking agent").  as for the axil nut, if it comes loose, the axil isn't going anywere.

i've replaced my rear wheel several times, never used lock tite.  you'll be alright (plus that craps expensive!!)

[Blackduck]

Live thee not in the realm of dark ages. Use the lowest grade of Loctite (Red)by all means,
It is desigined to torque up to correct specs and not vibrate loose. Additionaly with Loctite in the thread grooves water /moisture cannot penetrate so no rusted/seized bolts.
Anti Seize is a fine product if used in the right places, but it will allow you to over torque  by 10-15%.
There are many views on what to use on threads, each to their own.
Loctite is a fine product and like all sealers/ thread lockers if used correctly will benifit you in the long run.
Cheers Steve

[Ricky-D]

Locktite Red is the more permanent adhesive, needing heat to release it's hold.

Locktite Blue is the one generally recommended for keeping things from loosening. No heat needed for this one.

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[Jruby38]

In New England most of the back roads are full of bad bumps and lack of maintance bad due to the politicians putting the road tax money in their pockets. I put the blue locltite on axle nuts and when I do a brake jon on my vehicles for peace of mind.  Still brakes easy with my air gun.

[9Ball]

Live thee not in the realm of dark ages. Use the lowest grade of Loctite (Red)by all means,
It is desigined to torque up to correct specs and not vibrate loose. Additionaly with Loctite in the thread grooves water /moisture cannot penetrate so no rusted/seized bolts.
Anti Seize is a fine product if used in the right places, but it will allow you to over torque  by 10-15%.
There are many views on what to use on threads, each to their own.
Loctite is a fine product and like all sealers/ thread lockers if used correctly will benifit you in the long run.
Cheers Steve

BAD ADVICE....red is the strongest and typically requires heat or a lot of force to break free...

[RonW]

BAD ADVICE....red is the strongest and typically requires heat or a lot of force to break free...

How true. The problem I've had is that the color on the tube or vial .... is all the same for different strengths of threadlock compounds for Loctite, Permatex, etc. brands. Different manufacturers use different trademark colors for their line of products but then don't bother to color code the applicators to differentiate strengths apart. Easy to mix them up. For example, either a customer put them back on the wrong adjacent rack or a store worker mixed them up while stocking them.


dunno if this precaution is true, but the quote below is take from a Popular Mechanics article Oct. 2009 (last paragraph) ....

Don't touch the bolt to the dispensing nipple on the container or you'll transfer metal ions to the plastic. That contamination will eventually render the entire vial of threadlocker useless.

It might not be the case for the threadlock paste in tube lipstick applicators.

[Blackduck]

Oops my bad, Red is strong but not that bad.
The lowest is 222, Purple for small fasteners up to 1/4" 6mm
Then you have 242/243/2440 all blue.
There is also 290 for use on assembled threads and it is green
Cheers Steve

[fudgie]

I'll probally chatch hell, but I use a little anti-seize.  Actually use it on any bolt I take off. Sure makes it easier to take off the next year.

[Hook#3287]

I use anti-seize on everything except where Honda says use "Locking Agent".  The next owners of my bikes will be happy I did,  as I'm sure the bikes will outlive me.

I wish the PO's of the two Valk's I got used, did.

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

I'll probally chatch hell, but I use a little anti-seize.   Actually use it on any bolt I take off. Sure makes it easier to take off the next year.

The locktite and anti-seize would both accomplish one important mission. To help prevent the corrosion which sometimes locks steel fasteners in aluminum threads and can damage the aluminum threads upon removal. I don't use locktite on the axle nuts but I do use it on the shock bolts and most other fasteners for this reason.

I use the blue in the newer "chapstick" type tubes. It's not messy and doesn't get anywhere you don't want it. I have equipment at work which requires the "red, heat to remove" type but I never use it at home or even keep it at home just to make sure it doesn't get accidentally used.

[Jruby38]

I was over a riding buddy house for Pats game. He has a Big Dog, Roadglide, and a softtail for wife.
He does all his own wrenching, even has a bike lift.  I asked him about locktite on axle nuts. He said no, HD does one better, his rear bolts is drilled and cotter pin like a spindle on a car. With that in mind I am going to use blue cotter pins on mine.

[9Ball]

I was over a riding buddy house for Pats game. He has a Big Dog, Roadglide, and a softtail for wife.
He does all his own wrenching, even has a bike lift.  I asked him about locktite on axle nuts. He said no, HD does one better, his rear bolts is drilled and cotter pin like a spindle on a car. With that in mind I am going to use blue cotter pins on mine.

say no more...the vibration on those bikes can cause lots of parts to work loose and fall off.   Good luck on your project.