News:

If you're new to this message board, read THIS!

Main Menu
VRCC Calendar Ad

Hippity-hop...

Started by FLAVALK, Sun 21, Jun 2009, 12:02:00

Previous topic - Next topic

FLAVALK

...and I an't talking about the Easter Bunny. Went for a 150 mile run today on my new front Avon Cobra and the front end hops around 35 mph...crap!  >:(

It seems to only do it between 35-40 and then smooths right out. I was running 42 psi and wondering if this might be to high for this tire, or is the tire bad? Besides that little issue, I like the tire. It makes the front end seem lighter and it the bike falls effortlessly into a turn.

The tire I replaced was an Avon Venom. 42-psi for 20,000 miles with no issues.

Seems that I read here about someone else with a 35-mph hop with the Cobra.
Live From Sunny Winter Springs Florida via Huntsville Alabama

Disco

#1
This sounds like a balance issue.  I can't see how pressure would be the cause.  Is it balanced with either lead or dynabeads?  I have 2 ounces of dynabeads in my Venom front and it's as smooth as glass.  
2000 Bumblebee Tourer, 98 Yellow & Cream Tourer, 97 Rescue blower bike
22 CRF450RL, 19 BMW R1250RT
78 CB550K, 07 Helix
71 MT50 Trailhopper


VRCC 27,916                  IBA 44,783

FLAVALK

Quote from: Dave in Frisco (TX) on Sun 21, Jun 2009, 13:00:00
This sounds like a balance issue.  I can't see how pressure would be the cause.  Is it balanced with either lead or dynabeads?  I have 2 ounces of dynabeads in my Venom front and it's as smooth as glass.  

It's balanced with lead. Tire mounting is the only thing that I don't do in the routine maintenance of my bike. Guess I will have to start.
Live From Sunny Winter Springs Florida via Huntsville Alabama

Ricky-D

If you can get the front off the ground it's easy to check the run-out of the tire.  And I don't trust bubble balancing if that's how it was done.

And yes, if there is a tire construction problem, lower pressure in the tire will tend to minimize any bouncing. A harder tire will make irregularities more pronounced.
2000_Valkyrie_Interstate

FLAVALK

Quote from: Ricky-D on Sun 21, Jun 2009, 13:42:19
If you can get the front off the ground it's easy to check the run-out of the tire.  And I don't trust bubble balancing if that's how it was done.

And yes, if there is a tire construction problem, lower pressure in the tire will tend to minimize any bouncing. A harder tire will make irregularities more pronounced.

I took the wheel & tire to a local shop and let them mount & balance it, so I don't know how it was done. Guess I'll remove the wheel and balance it myself...should have checked it before I put it back on the bike.  >:(
Live From Sunny Winter Springs Florida via Huntsville Alabama

Disco

Good point, Ricky.   :cooldude:  I didn't think of a faulty tire at new or 150 miles. 

But, if memory serves, there have been some reports here over the last year or so about Avons failing prematurely.
2000 Bumblebee Tourer, 98 Yellow & Cream Tourer, 97 Rescue blower bike
22 CRF450RL, 19 BMW R1250RT
78 CB550K, 07 Helix
71 MT50 Trailhopper


VRCC 27,916                  IBA 44,783

dcfan2

I had the ame problem with an avon venom.about 35mph would get a rythmic bounce.Pulled tire and had balance checked-spot on.Tire pressure made no difference.Tire had about 8 grand on it and still half of tread left.Also developed some handling issuses--possible belt broke?.Changed  to a Metz 880 and no more bounce.Possible break down in tire?

hubcapsc

Quote from: Ricky-D on Sun 21, Jun 2009, 13:42:19

I And I don't trust bubble balancing if that's how it was done.


they have to keep those bubble balancers calibrated.

I never heard of anyone needing to calibrate gravity  :coolsmiley:

Here's a picture I made when I did my first balance job with a static balancer...



-Mike