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Started by Michvalk, Tue 31, Jul 2012, 16:38:16

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Michvalk

I have a lighter wired in to use for GPS and phone charger. It is a standard bike style with waterproof lighter cap. I also have a Bad Boy horn, and a set of Elcheapo Walmart driving lights. These are both wired through seperate relays. I ran the lighter straight to the batt. power and ground with a fuze. The relays are from the hot lead, and grounded to the frame. I trigger the horn with the horn wire, and trigger the driving lights with the acc. lead. Everything has worked fine until today. I used the lighter, and it didn't work. I assumed the fuze blew. It didn't. But my driving lights quit working, as did my horn. In investigating, I discovered my driving lights comming on when I turned the key off. So I pulled the wire going to the light relay, and they went out. I got my wire tester, and put to goound and stuck it into the acc outlet. The radio came on with the key off. After going through all the connections, I discovered the lighter pushed in but not hot. The power lead shows power, and it did not blow the fuze. The horn started working when I pulled the lighter. So basically, without the lighter pushed in, everything works. Push it in and the electrics go goofy. I can't find any shortsor bad wires, so is it the socket for the lighter, or the lighter it's self. ANY insight would be helpful. Ya, I know, don't use the lighter ;D ;D :cooldude:

Hoser

I think the heat element in the lighter shorted out, try another.  Hoser
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Daniel Meyer

Loose ground cable(s) at the battery?
CUAgain,
Daniel Meyer

Challenger

+1 What Daniel said: it sounds like a ground problem.

Michvalk

Quote from: Daniel Meyer on Tue 31, Jul 2012, 17:45:18
Loose ground cable(s) at the battery?
I checked the ground where they connect to the frame and they were tight. Never give the battery ground for the lighter a thought. What is throwing me is the fact the lighter never blew the fuze. and I could hear other relays clicking when lights were going on and off with pushing the lighter in and out. The bike starts great no matter what. I'll check that ground :cooldude:

GJS

I think you answered your own question.
With the lighter pushed in, your f 'ed.
Take it out your fine.

Your element is bad, but not a dead short, or your fuse would go.

Hoser had it right.

Try your car lighter.

Cheers,

Glenn
The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon, but that we wait so long to begin it.
- W. M. Lewis

salty1

Sounds like Hoser might be right. Is there continuity across the plug in?  :-\
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1998 GL1500C, 2000 GL 1500CF,2006 GL 1800 3A


valky1500

My thoughts are to use the ground at the battery for all add-ons with their own relay circuits.
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valky1500

My thoughts are to use the ground at the battery for all add-ons with their own relay and fused circuits.

Or you risk the chance of a short somewhere else.
'98 Standard
'01 IS
Yes I pull a trailer

I have taken notice to those who use that word (Precautionary) and abide by it are not only very happy in life...
but they also live long and prosper.  ;)

Ricky-D

Bad battery!  Time for a new one!

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Michvalk

Quote from: Ricky-D on Wed 01, Aug 2012, 09:09:16
Bad battery!  Time for a new one!

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Battery load tests good. Have removed the lighter plug and have had no more problems. Think it's time for a power port :cooldude:

salty1

My rides:
1998 GL1500C, 2000 GL 1500CF,2006 GL 1800 3A