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Started by Clark, Tue 11, Dec 2012, 12:58:25

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Clark

just read where over 100,000 cali. residents have bailed out of the state due to the failed liberal policies and HIGH TAXES there.. I sure do hope they stay out of idaho with their liberal  "its not what I do so I want it banned ATTITUDE"  we have enough of em already.. :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff:

czuch

They can drive THROUGH Arizona too.
I dont need anybody else voting themselves more taxes.
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Serk

It is an interesting mindset of immigrants that flee a failing country/state and move to a successful one, and then try to implement the exact same policies in their new home that caused their original home to fail...
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I have NO sympathy for them.  Colorado used to be solidly red.  But for the last 20 years there's been a huge immigration from the LEFT coast, and now that Colorado has been thoroughly Californicated, we have a liberal gov't, a lefty governor and senators, and a mini L.A. with their crime, tagging, rampant growth, and disgusting liberal politics they brought with them.  Bay area immigrants also brought their high home prices with them, so they were pushing up real estate to unaffordable levels until the collapse in 08.  That may have turned out to be a silver lining - the demand of buyers with plenty of cash may have at least partly helped support prices, as real estate here didn't drop as much as in some other parts of the country.  I used to see editorials regularly, on crime growth, about "here's how we handled it in L.A....".  Until I stopped getting the paper.  I was in a bar once and an overdressed babe was bragging about coming from CA, I was supposed to be impressed.  I told her, since she was new and didn't know yet, that she should maybe keep that on the down-low - Californicators are not much appreciated by many Coloradans for what they've done to our state.

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Chattanooga Mark

Look at bit closer at the people leaving and those coming into California. Tax payers (tax makers) = leaving, tax recipients (tax takers) = coming in. It's been going on for years and the state is in serious financial trouble. They're literally running out of other peoples money. Their latest retread governor is just speeding up the process.

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Jess Tolbirt

well they can come on THROUGH TN also,, they will eventually find the right coast and think they went around the world...
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Slyk Willy

Big chunk of them parked in North Dallas area. Started running and getting themselves elected to local office. The places to "go and shoot" are a bunch less than back 20 years ago. Just got back from a visit and I couldn't believe how few places there any more. Hope they stay out of MI, we have enough Libs here already.
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fudgie

Dont care if they are dem or rep, hope they dont stop here. I dont judge people on bases of religion or politics. Its to petty.


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California sure seems to be a disaster and I hope the folks fleeing don't stop in New York. We already have too many liberals that have ruined this state also.

As far as the folks that move somewhere because they like the 'cuteness' and 'lifestyle' and then change things, its happened here in NY. Many folks from another state bought summer places in the same area of the Adirondack's for the above reasons and now are complaining because they turned it into what they came from. You really have to wonder what some people are thinking about.

old2soon

They would simply LOVE my redneck section of the Show Me. Doncha know open carry pisses off da liberal idiots. When i lived in Colorado i asked the libs to not let the door bang them in the ass on the way out. I ask the same thing here. RIDE SAFE.
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Clark

Quote from: fudgie on Tue 11, Dec 2012, 15:51:03
Dont care if they are dem or rep, hope they dont stop here. I dont judge people on bases of religion or politics. Its to petty.
I DO!!!!   when they wanna move to a western/ cowboy state like Idaho and have everything that has been going on here for a hundred years BANNED because its not something they do.. ie.. snowmobiling, 4wheeling,dirtbike riding, hunting etc. THEY CAN KISS MY ASS AND GO BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff:

musclehead

only 100,000? last year nearly 900,000 left Illinois because of the wonderful tax increase they passed as a christmas present two years ago. and they left between jan 1st and october 2011....
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Man, I don't know where they're going to go now that the courts are finally forcing Illinois to rejoin the union. Europe?  ;D

I've been amazed a thousand times by the same kind of behavior from some urban people who move to the country to get away from the city. And then want their neighbors to behave as if they live in a city.

There was one of these couples who bought a cabin years ago close to my in laws house. There was no trash pickup there at the time but they kept putting their trash in front of their cabin. Then they'd go home to wherever and a neighbor would breakdown and pickup their trash and get ride of it.  :2funny:

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Chattanooga Mark

Education loans are likely one of the biggest ripoffs in the history of the world. Daniel's link to the California article is all too common. Same with your kids college loan. The biggest fleecing of the middle and lower class income earners to the wealthiest among us. Most colleges have more money than you can imagine in their accounts. The government takes over the student loan program and guarantees only a few percent interest and increase in tuition. The 98% pay for years and years into the system owned and run by the 2%. A quality education, whether it's in those multi million dollar California classrooms or your local town, has almost nothing to do with how much the system costs.

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f6john

Quote from: fudgie on Tue 11, Dec 2012, 15:51:03
Dont care if they are dem or rep, hope they dont stop here. I dont judge people on bases of religion or politics. Its to petty.

   You just judge them for being from California then!! ;D

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RP#62

I read the same article.  It said that the consensus was that they're leaving California and heading for Texas.  Watch out.

-RP
 

GreenLantern57

Had lots of conservative types retired to Amarillo. They sell (sold) thier overpriced home and HIGH taxes. Buy, for cash, huge homes on acreage. The medical community has geared itself for taking care of the older generation.  Most of all, they spend a lot of thier retirement money in good ol' Amarillo, eating out, buying cars, RV's, clothes, and enjoying thier sunset years.  OH, have you ever watched a high plains sunset?  It is awsome!

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  i'm riding my motorcycle through the winter while lots of you are dreamin about it.

  let 'em leave.  less traffic for me.  some of the greatest geography and riding in the united states.
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BigChris99

Thanks for speaking up Donald, was really feeling the love on this board.... not!  Jeez, I didn't even do anything. Did any of you ever think there might be good hard working people here in California? No,of course not.  Did you ever think we vote, but we get out voted? It happens. I'm here because my wife and I still have jobs, I have 25 years at my job, so I'm not leaving until I either retire or they close the doors. But then what? What if we want to move, according to all of you, we are not welcome anywhere that YOU people live. My wife and I will just come into YOUR state and f%#k it up. Yet, you don't even know us. You, that live in GOD's country, so I've read a million times, are much better than us. Don't worry, I wrote down the states you people don't even want us to drive, or ride through. Tell you people what, you all can kiss my ass. I need to get some sleep, I have a funeral to attend in the morning. I lost a dear friend and co worker last week, but he was from California too, so what does that matter.
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Quote from: Serk on Tue 11, Dec 2012, 13:15:19
It is an interesting mindset of immigrants that flee a failing country/state and move to a successful one, and then try to implement the exact same policies in their new home that caused their original home to fail...


Wow do I hear you there!!!
I have watched for all my 55 years residents from other areas of the country move to Florida to get away from whatever frozen hellhole they came from & after enjoying all the wonderful differences try to make things just like the place they came from.  :roll: >:(
Amazing!
Aint screwing up one area of the country enough????
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Quote from: BigChris99 on Wed 12, Dec 2012, 03:08:49
Thanks for speaking up Donald, was really feeling the love on this board.... not!  Jeez, I didn't even do anything. Did any of you ever think there might be good hard working people here in California? No,of course not.  Did you ever think we vote, but we get out voted? It happens. I'm here because my wife and I still have jobs, I have 25 years at my job, so I'm not leaving until I either retire or they close the doors. But then what? What if we want to move, according to all of you, we are not welcome anywhere that YOU people live. My wife and I will just come into YOUR state and f%#k it up. Yet, you don't even know us. You, that live in GOD's country, so I've read a million times, are much better than us. Don't worry, I wrote down the states you people don't even want us to drive, or ride through. Tell you people what, you all can kiss my ass. I need to get some sleep, I have a funeral to attend in the morning. I lost a dear friend and co worker last week, but he was from California too, so what does that matter.

BigChris99,

  I believe they were talking about liberals not being wanted in their state. If you are a conservative, you are welcome. LOL. Relax and don't take it so personnel.        ;)
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Quote from: BigChris99 on Wed 12, Dec 2012, 03:08:49
Don't worry, I wrote down the states you people don't even want us to drive, or ride through. Tell you people what, you all can kiss my ass.


As long as you can prove that you've never voted for her:




We MIGHT let you hang out with us.  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


But you have to understand the frustration that the rest of us have with a certain group of people that continue to return an IDIOT like this (and others like her) to Congress.
1 Corinthians 1:18


Serk

If you want to come here and become a Texan, you'll be welcomed with open arms, I don't care where you come from (If you come legally), California, Vietnam, Mexico, Somalia, or any other third world failed state, I don't care...

If you want to come here to get away from the failed state you're currently in, and try to turn my state into a replica of the very failed state you're running from, then why bother? THOSE are the people who are not welcome.
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Jess Tolbirt

Quote from: BigChris99 on Wed 12, Dec 2012, 03:08:49
Thanks for speaking up Donald, was really feeling the love on this board.... not!  Jeez, I didn't even do anything. Did any of you ever think there might be good hard working people here in California? No,of course not.  Did you ever think we vote, but we get out voted? It happens. I'm here because my wife and I still have jobs, I have 25 years at my job, so I'm not leaving until I either retire or they close the doors. But then what? What if we want to move, according to all of you, we are not welcome anywhere that YOU people live. My wife and I will just come into YOUR state and f%#k it up. Yet, you don't even know us. You, that live in GOD's country, so I've read a million times, are much better than us. Don't worry, I wrote down the states you people don't even want us to drive, or ride through. Tell you people what, you all can kiss my ass. I need to get some sleep, I have a funeral to attend in the morning. I lost a dear friend and co worker last week, but he was from California too, so what does that matter.
its people like you that cant take a joke that screws up things like in the work place with the discrimination crap...relax dude its just a joke,,,well now that you made your comments maybe i will change my mind about it being a joke,,,
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Serk

Quote from: Daniel Meyer on Wed 12, Dec 2012, 10:58:20
It's like the Grapes of Wrath! Only backwards! And without all the damn dust! And with better cars!

Some of y'all need to lighten up. It's the internet!

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Clark

Quote from: 3fan4life on Wed 12, Dec 2012, 08:58:40
Quote from: BigChris99 on Wed 12, Dec 2012, 03:08:49
Don't worry, I wrote down the states you people don't even want us to drive, or ride through. Tell you people what, you all can kiss my ass.


As long as you can prove that you've never voted for her:

:tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude:


We MIGHT let you hang out with us.  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


But you have to understand the frustration that the rest of us have with a certain group of people that continue to return an IDIOT like this (and others like her) to Congress.

Serk

On deeper thought, I guess they need to re-do this song with a few slight modifications...

Going to California - Led Zeppelin (with lyrics)
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Clark

Quote from: donaldcc on Tue 11, Dec 2012, 23:31:42

  yosemite, big bear lake, mojave desert, pacific coast hwy, sierra mtns, redwood forests, sf bay, parks galore, glamis sand dunes, lake tahoe, monterey bay, mendocino, mt. whitney, ave of the giants, death valley, lake shasta and all the other great places.

  i'm riding my motorcycle through the winter while lots of you are dreamin about it.

  let 'em leave.  less traffic for me.  some of the greatest geography and riding in the united states.
AGREED... BEAUTIFUL GEOGRAPHY THERE.. its the liberal ideas thats I dont care for.. as someone else stated ..come to our state but dont Try and CHANGE IT..

ValkFlyer

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Well boys I'm from California and while I don't like what is happening here I can tell you this.  The problem is far bigger than Californians corrupting your states.  Whether you like it or not we are all in the middle of a fight between Good and evil.  Laugh all you want, call me a nut job, I don't care.  The Bible clearly shares the direction man is headed and what the ultimate outcome will be.  Those that choose to ignore it will be ignored and left to their transgressions.  I'd like to suggest that if one is opposed to the decay of man, and his ever more rapidly approaching immoral agenda, that instead of complaining about things that we have little control over, that we instead look to things we have total control over.  That is, that we get down on our knees and pray that God's will be done, and that by doing so He brings the Truth to those that are blind.  All this whining will ultimately bring nothing more than frustration, animosity, hate and fear.   Setting up roadblocks is nothing more than a temporary solution.  I ask you do you really think man will save himself from what is comming?  

98valk

I'm moving to oklahoma.

Oklahoma is the only state that President Barack Obama did not win even one county in the last election.


While everyone is focusing on Arizona's new laws,

look what Oklahoma has been doing!


  Oklahoma law passed, 37 to 9 an amendment to place the Ten Commandments on the front entrance to the state capitol.

~ HB 1330 ~

The feds in Washington D.C., along with the ACLU, said it would be a mistake.

Hey this is a conservative state, based on Christian values!

Guess what ... Oklahoma did it anyway.


Oklahoma recently passed a law in the state to incarcerate all illegal immigrants, and ship them back to where they came from unless they want to get a green card and become an American citizen.

~ HB 1804 ~

They all scattered. 

This was against the advice of the Federal Government, and the ACLU, they said it would be a mistake.

Guess what ... Oklahoma did it anyway.


Recently Oklahoma passed a law to include DNA samples from

any and all illegal's to the Oklahoma database,

for criminal investigative purposes.

~ SB 1102 ~

Nancy Pelosi said it was unconstitutional.

Guess what ... Oklahoma did it anyway.


Several weeks ago, Oklahoma passed a law, declaring Oklahoma as a Sovereign state, not under the Federal Government directives.

Joining Texas , Montana and Utah as the only states to do so.

More states are likely to follow ... Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, the Carolina's, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, West Virginia, Mississippi and Florida .

Save your confederate money, it appears the South is about to rise up once again.


The federal Government has made bold steps to take away our guns.

Oklahoma , a week ago, passed a law confirming people in this state have the right to bear arms and transport them in their vehicles. 

~ HJR 1003 ~

I'm sure that was a set back for the criminals.

The Liberals didn't like it.

But ... Guess what ... Oklahoma did it anyway.


Just this month, the state has voted and passed a law that ALL driver's license exams will be printed in English, and only English, and no other language.

They have been called racist for doing this, but the fact is that ALL of the road signs are in English only.

If you want to drive in Oklahoma ... Really simple, you must read and write English.

By the way, the Liberals don't like any of this either.

Guess what ... who cares ... Oklahoma is doing it anyway.
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fudgie

120+ yrs ago everyone wanted to head to CA, now they want out. Kinda funny.


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Willow

Quote from: CA on Wed 12, Dec 2012, 15:58:47Oklahoma is the only state that President Barack Obama did not win even one county in the last election.

Good for Oklahoma, but not quite accurate.  Check Utah.   :)

hubcapsc

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I'm moving to oklahoma.

The terrain in the South East part of the state looks kind of interesting...

-Mike

Clark

Quote from: fudgie on Wed 12, Dec 2012, 17:17:06
120+ yrs ago everyone wanted to head to CA, now they want out. Kinda funny.
120 years ago cali wasnt FULL of FRIGGIN LIBERALS.. jus sayn..I can remember when this whole illegal alien thing began.. it was the libs in ca. tha screamed the loudest not to close off the border with mexico.. the chickens have come home to roost now.. but not just in ca.  NOW let me just say.. I do realize there are SOME non left wing loons in cali...but unfortunately they are gettin outvoted..  

Daniel Meyer

Quote from: hubcapsc on Wed 12, Dec 2012, 17:31:45
I'm moving to oklahoma.

The terrain in the South East part of the state looks kind of interesting...

-Mike

It is!
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musclehead

Quote from: CA on Wed 12, Dec 2012, 15:58:47
I'm moving to oklahoma.

Oklahoma is the only state that President Barack Obama did not win even one county in the last election.


While everyone is focusing on Arizona's new laws,

look what Oklahoma has been doing!


  Oklahoma law passed, 37 to 9 an amendment to place the Ten Commandments on the front entrance to the state capitol.

~ HB 1330 ~

The feds in Washington D.C., along with the ACLU, said it would be a mistake.

Hey this is a conservative state, based on Christian values!

Guess what ... Oklahoma did it anyway.


Oklahoma recently passed a law in the state to incarcerate all illegal immigrants, and ship them back to where they came from unless they want to get a green card and become an American citizen.

~ HB 1804 ~

They all scattered. 

This was against the advice of the Federal Government, and the ACLU, they said it would be a mistake.

Guess what ... Oklahoma did it anyway.


Recently Oklahoma passed a law to include DNA samples from

any and all illegal's to the Oklahoma database,

for criminal investigative purposes.

~ SB 1102 ~

Nancy Pelosi said it was unconstitutional.

Guess what ... Oklahoma did it anyway.


Several weeks ago, Oklahoma passed a law, declaring Oklahoma as a Sovereign state, not under the Federal Government directives.

Joining Texas , Montana and Utah as the only states to do so.

More states are likely to follow ... Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, the Carolina's, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, West Virginia, Mississippi and Florida .

Save your confederate money, it appears the South is about to rise up once again.


The federal Government has made bold steps to take away our guns.

Oklahoma , a week ago, passed a law confirming people in this state have the right to bear arms and transport them in their vehicles. 

~ HJR 1003 ~

I'm sure that was a set back for the criminals.

The Liberals didn't like it.

But ... Guess what ... Oklahoma did it anyway.


Just this month, the state has voted and passed a law that ALL driver's license exams will be printed in English, and only English, and no other language.

They have been called racist for doing this, but the fact is that ALL of the road signs are in English only.

If you want to drive in Oklahoma ... Really simple, you must read and write English.

By the way, the Liberals don't like any of this either.

Guess what ... who cares ... Oklahoma is doing it anyway.

they have their heads on straight, and texas is a mighty fine state as well....
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GreenLantern57

There is a reason they say "Oklahoma is OK!"

Lots of beautiful country to ride in OK. Lots of lakes and plenty of places to camp.