Gun/immigration rant... Very political...

[Tx Bohemian]

Just read where a group of senators blueprinted an immigration law where it will provide amnesty for 11million illegals!!
It was a bipartisan group, dems and repubs.

I couldn't finish reading the article cause it PO'd me too bad!!

But a part of the article stated the repubs now are being more leinient due to the fact that 70% of the mexican voters went with owebama.
I remember reading a couple of months ago where the mexican-hispanic-latino (whatever their called now) group told owbama they expect some big changes for them since they got him elected!

Here's a question:
Are they trying to change the US to a sh!thole country like they left?

IMO there's already a country like that, just move back!!

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Here's an "as I see it" observation:

If this immigration crap passes the criminals will be rewarded!!

aaannnd,

If the new gun laws pass the law abiding citizens will be punished!!


Someone please explain if I'm wrong!! Doesn't this seem backwards??!!

Maybe this is too deep for me...
Or maybe I'm thinking too deep for it...

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I don't want to come across as a racist, I'm probably one of the most least racist persons here in S. Texas.  In my many years I've worked with all kinds, as did most here I'm sure. And, probably like most here, there's blacks and browns I'd rather work with than some whiteys.
My theory, and I'm sure we've all noticed this: there's a$$holes in every race!

I just don't like where this country seems to be heading!!

[Chrisj CMA]

No, youre not wrong or off base for the feelings you have...IMHO you are spot on


Yes by the current (politically correct) definition you most certainly are a racists.  You broke the two inviolet laws that define racism in this country lately.  1 you disagree with the President, 2 You called Latinos not currently citizens and living in America without documentation "illegal" 

So, these two agregious acts, from what I see in the news defines you (and me) as a racist

[musclehead]

I'm waiting to actually read it, word is Marco Rubio is onboard with it. maybe it's horrible, maybe Marco has to play ball to get the nod for the presidential race in 2016. anything Schumer is behind I would toss out.

[3fan4life]

The SAD fact if that both political parties have had ZERO interest in enforcing our Immigration laws for quite some time.

I don't like the idea of giving amnesty to people the by the merely being here have proven that they have a complete and total lack of respect for our countries laws.

But, how on Earth do you deport 11,000,000 people ?

It would seem that the problem has gotten so out of hand that there really isn't an easy solution.

My understanding is that those wishing to take part in this program must register with the government and not have a criminal record.

It will be interesting to see what solution for they come up with for the ones who refuse to register or are found to have committed crimes while they were here.      

[Skinhead]

It will be interesting to see what solution for they come up with for the ones who refuse to register or are found to have committed crimes while they were here.       

They said they will be deported, therefore those that broke the law will not register.  All those here illegally have broken the law.  Go figure...

[RP#62]

Quickest way to solve illegal immigration is to get them to vote predominantly Republican.  If they did, I garuntee that the dems would erect the fence themselves and the media would be all for it.

-RP

[BF]

Quickest way to solve illegal immigration is to get them to vote predominantly Republican.  If they did, I garuntee that the dems would erect the fence themselves and the media would be all for it.

-RP

[Tx Bohemian]

Yes by the current (politically correct) definition you most certainly are a racists.  You broke the two inviolet laws that define racism in this country lately.

I'll respond to these allegations one at a time:

1 you disagree with the President,

Oh well, this has been going on for 4 yrs now! (and, UNFORTUNATELY,  it doesn't look like there is an end to this in the near future, hopefuly no more than 4 yrs!!)

2 You called Latinos not currently citizens and living in America without documentation "illegal"  

I'd have to argue this point.  As I reread what I wrote you really can't say I called ALL the 11million illegals latino.
I stated that fact, then another fact about the vote thing . Kinda like subliminal messaging, right?  (ya think that would stand up in court?)

So, these two agregious acts, from what I see in the news defines you (and me) as a racist

and to prove I'm not racist I'll say this: there is probably 8 or 9 persons of the 11million that are from places like Russia, or Vietnam, or Canada...

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And, you know, I bought a Valkyrie T shirt that has "The Confederate States of America" on the back!
... if only...

I guess we can dream, right??

[JimC]

But, how on Earth do you deport 11,000,000 people ?

You start by requiring the employers to verify their citizenship before they hire them, then you require citizenship to obtain government aid.

the rest will fall in line as they slowly leave.

Jim

[Serk]

But, how on Earth do you deport 11,000,000 people ?

I know this is radical heresy, but how about we start by treating ILLEGAL as ILLEGAL. Make being illegal a felony trespassing violation, and start enforcing that law. I bet the problem would quickly take care of itself.

And remember folks, it's ruder to illegal aliens as such, they prefer to be referred to as "Undocumented Democrats."

(One more quip - Calling an illegal alien an "Undocumented Immigrant" is like referring to a drug dealer as an "Unlicensed Pharmacist.")

[Phil57]

This is a very difficult problem that we the US has created over a period of at least 50-75 years because we are afraid to protect or boarders. If you as a US citizen got caught in any country illegally you would face prison or worse even death in some countries. We have made it legal to have anchor babies so we have to some how deal with that. Can you imagine being born in this country and living here for 12 years and having your family that is illegal get deported. What do you do with the kids and how do we fix this mess that we made. We have compromised on immigration laws for to long and when we compromise this is the mess we end up with. I'm all for legal immigration and all for immigrates assimilating into our society. I am sick of seeing latino communities being turning into a slum where no one speaks english and the place looks like a crap hole from south of the boarder. Check out Dearborn MI sometime. Parts it look like Bagdad. If people are truly coming here for a better life then learn the language and improve your life. I'm not saying to drop your culture but lets not paint every building in the hood bright green and yellow. Pick up the trash and when the car is junk tow it to a junk yard.
Nothing is going to change until we start electing people of courage and conviction. People that don't cast there vote thinking only of how it will effect there next election.   

[Chillerman]

"In his speech, Obama laid out "markers" for reform, saying any comprehensive immigration bill must give most of the nation's 11 million illegal immigrants a chance to earn their citizenship gradually if they pay a fine, learn English and pass a background check. Immigrants would also have to get to "the back of the line," which means people who have already applied for green cards would have their applications processed first."

Half of the people on this board can't speak or write proper English. How is Obama going to get the illegal immigrants to learn English 

[miscott]

   The reason we have 10-12 million illegal aliens in this country is because those in power in this country want them here.
  How many of you have ever heard of the ...."Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America"?
  It's a documented plan to merge the United States, Mexico and Canada into a North American Union, modeled after the European Union. NAFTA and WTO started the ball rolling and the big "O" is merely continuing the work.
  Here's a link to a very eyeopening read for those that are interested.
 
  http://www.slideshare.net/miscott57/the-new-american-north-american-union-edition-oct-15th-2007"  
 

[Tx Bohemian]

Half of the people on this board can't speak or write proper English.  

Well, whether it's proper or not, at least it is a form of English...

[Master Blaster]

But, how on Earth do you deport 11,000,000 people ?



It has been done.  After WW11 they rounded them up and shipped them home to make jobs for the returning servicemen.  The only reason they are here now is votes and power for the incumbents, and if you think illegals dont vote, think again.  The shortsidedness of the whole thing, once they get to be the majority, and it is comming, once our country is predominately brown, it wont be long before our government turns brown.  If you think our government is crooked now, wait untill it turns into the Mexican government.  The reason that legal immigration is really hard is to insure that the immigrants want to become American, not hyphenated American, but to embrace our way of life fully.  Earned immigration has made this country great and I am all for it.  Unless it is earned, it will never be valued  or appriceated.  Look no further than the ghettos to see a prime example.  Make it free, and it changes from prideful lets work hard to get it to gimmie, I deserve it,you owe iit to me, I am entitled.

[hubcapsc]

But, how on Earth do you deport 11,000,000 people ?

You start by requiring the employers to verify their citizenship before they hire them, then you require citizenship to obtain government aid.

the rest will fall in line as they slowly leave.

Jim

This is what I believe too. Apparently not many other people believe it, nobody talks about it... they laughed
when Romney talked about it.

"The answer is self-deportation, which is people decide they can do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal documentation to allow them to work here," Romney said.

Ending this "birthright citizenship" cr*p that they put in the 14th amendment to make (republican voting) citizens
of the freedmen seems like a no-brainer too...

-Mike

[Jeff K]

Funny how the current plan is to allow them in, feed them, house them, give them a college education... and then tell the private sector you will go to prison if you hire them. Nice plan. 
Completely lay enforcement responsibilities on the job creators so the government doesn't look like the bad guy. 

[Chrisj CMA]

Half of the people on this board can't speak or write proper English. How is Obama going to get the illegal immigrants to learn English 

They dont have to learn MUCH English.  To quote Robin Williams as his character in Mrs Doubtfire....all they have to say is "I AM JOB"

Its all a joke anyway.  Theres no intention on the part of our Federal Government to make immigration reform an actual reform.  They just will get whatever they can get passed, then give them all citizenship and remind them what good democrats they are now. 

And of course more free stuff

[steve 3054]

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