Pookie tells Putin that we're deeply concerned

[Wewaman]

Well said BF that's exactly what I was thinking.  President Hussain  should be Impeached, and he should be tried for Treason.  I have absolutely NO respect for this WORTHLESS Non american .   And anyone and  I mean anyone who likes or believes this idiot is, well an IDIOT  .   This is (was) the" UNITED" States of America but Hussain has triumphantly divided us for the good of his agenda,  socialism.   He followed his instructions from his Idol Saul Alinski very well.

Wewa

[..]

What would you guys like Obama to do about the current situation in Ukraine?  You disagree with his public statements on the matter.  What do you want him to do, declare war on Russia?  You want to send our boys over there?  I'm curious to hear what you want the US government to say and do about the situation in Ukraine.

Aside from your typical daily whining and crying about Obama, can you, or any conservative actually come up with a plan about how to handle anything at all?  The Republican Party is a rudderless ship of crybabies.

Please answer your own questions for our enlightenment.

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Update

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/01/putin-russian-troops-crimea_n_4880076.html

[BF]

Update

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/01/putin-russian-troops-crimea_n_4880076.html

From that article, this says it all......Putin is rubbin' Obama's nose in it and could care less what Obama thinks.....


"Ignoring President Barack Obama's warning Friday that "there will be costs" if Russia intervenes militarily, Putin sharply raised the stakes in the conflict over Ukraine's future evoking memories of Cold War brinkmanship."

"A statement from the Kremlin said Putin emphasized to Obama the existence of "real threats" to the life and health of Russian citizens and compatriots who are in Ukrainian territory. The statement indicated that Russia might send its troops not only to the Crimea but also to predominantly ethnic Russian regions of eastern Ukraine."



I can only imagine what would happen if Hillary is next in line to the throne.  

[.]

It may not matter whether Hillary is elected in 2016, or who is, or for that matter who is president now. I'm beginning to think that isn't merely a pissing contest. The Soviet Union may have collapsed under its own weight rather abruptly in 1989 but that doesn't mean there isn't a nationalistic urge to return to the "glory days" when the USSR ruled the roost in the Warsaw Pact and schoolchildren practiced hiding under their desks for the day when "the big one" hit.

At various times in history there have been leaders in various countries who were willing to take the world to the brink of destruction (and perhaps beyond) to see their ambitions become reality. So far, none of them managed to put together the means to take that scenario to its furthest, and most horrifying, conclusion.

If Putin turns out to be one of those types of leaders it could be a bad thing on an unprecedented scale in the history of bad things because he does have the means.

President Obama may have made some missteps going into this thing. I suspect he did but I think it's possible that there is no right way to deal with this and maybe there never was. I can be argued that a different president may have taken actions that would have kept this from ever reaching this point but there is no way to know. I suspect that the years between 9-11 and Obama taking office for his first term left this country economically devastated, sick of war, and so politically divided that Putin is able to exploit an opportunity that would exist regardless of who is in charge over here.

If all of this is the case then we may be watching something that can spin out of control very quickly. I realize that there are a lot of people who are going to believe that Obama is screwing up simply because he is Obama and they don't like him. That is certainly their prerogative. But at this point there is a real vacuum of ideas about how to handle it differently. I think there is a real danger that economic sanctions won't matter and moving troops into the area will only start a war. A real big war that nobody can or will win.

Just for the record, I don't think he is handling this situation well at all, but I'll be cursed if I can come up with any different course of action that would do anything but make it escalate more quickly. I sure hope I'm wrong. 

[Serk]

Since it's been asked... At this point, there's not a damn thing Obama can do to fix the current situation, just as there wasn't a damn thing Neville Chamberlin could have done to stop WWII after his infamous "Peace in our Time" concession speech to Hitler in September 1938.

Obama has spent the last 5 years showing such extreme weakness, appeasement, even traveling the world apologizing for America being America that at this point, I'd be surprise if anyone took us seriously at all.

No, what Obama could do differently at this point would involve a time machine back to the beginning of his reign and have things handled very differently.

The safety hope for a successful way through the current situation as I see it is to remove ole Neville the Appeaser Obama from office as fast as possible and get a real leader in his place that can start to rebuild our military abilities before they're sliced too far. Someone who can stans up to the KGB bully and stare them down.

But no, as far as "What would you want Obama to do RIGHT NOW to fix this issue" there really only is a single thing he could do.

He could resign, and hope that a greater man, whom the rest of the world respsects (And yes, fear is often a part of respect) would be his successor.

Him staying in power gives us no hope for a long term peace.

[..]

Our very own Nobel Peace Prize winner !!!! doing a grand job.

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/press.html

[hubcapsc]

Ukraine is melting down. Crimea is almost 60% Russian. A big chunk of the Black Sea Fleet is
in Sevastopol. Russia seems to me to be protecting their own interests...

-Mike

[Novavalker]

I wonder how all this will impact hitching rides for American astronauts too and from the space station? 

[Six Guns]

Obama= Community Organizer, no more no less.     

[Skinhead]

I can only imagine what would happen if Hillary is next in line to the throne.  

At this point, What difference would it make?

Maybe they'll come up with a video that will make Putin back down.

[f6john]

     At the very least, He needs to stop drawing red lines and issuing warnings.Now is the time for behind the scenes work and implementation of all non military steps that would pressure the Russians to back off a little. Might not work, but the empty threats are embarrassing.

[old2soon]

MOMMY-the ruskies won't play nice with me and I can't get my way WHAT do I do? as he sits in the corner sucking his thumb and wondering who gonna change his diaper. Yeah-got us a real world class leader!   And NO I don't have the answer for the current situation. One thing I do KNOW-we do not need to put American boots on the ground over there. Even if we had a much better P O T U S NOT the guy that's there-the situation would have spiraled to where it's at now. Kenny Rogers song applies here-gotta know when to held em gotta know when to walk away gotta know when to run. Don't want crap fer brains writing a check our armed forces may not be able to cash. Don't get me wrong-we have good folks in uniform. But zero has replaced the warriors with his own ass kissers. And in my heart I don't believe America is the 800 pound gorilla anymore-the one that USED to sit any damn where it wanted to.   Do we want to sacrifice young American lives for something we maybe shouldn't be involved in in the first place?? RIDE SAFE.

[Romeo]

In my opinion, this is a problem we have never been in any position to effect for good. Regardless of who is the president. My total disrespect for out current administration only underlines my belief that we should stay the hell away. The Crimea is majority Russian and is of strategic and tactical importance to Russia. They have enjoyed an autonomous government that is being undermined by the new Ukrainian leaders. What would you expect Putin to do?
I suggest, if we were in their situation, we would act accordingly.
Would it be better for us from a geopolitical standpoint if The Ukraine was aligned with the west? Of course. Unfortunately, the mistakes we made that allowed Putin and his thugs to take control of post soviet Russia, happened long, long ago. Now we must live with the consequences. Lets just hope our third rate leader doesn't cost us any more American lives.

[Fla. Jim]

The only deterrent to "any" nation's expansion has been a stronger one. We need to be upgraded our military not dissolving it...... Unless "Fundamentally changing America" means making it into a third world country.  Without a say in any meaningful way in World events.

[old2soon]

The only deterrent to "any" nation's expansion has been a stronger one. We need to be upgraded our military not dissolving it...... Unless "Fundamentally changing America" means making it into a third world country.  Without a say in any meaningful way in World events.

And with zero and his cronies third world is where we are headed. THIS guy is the prez I have been truly ashamed of. Kinda makes me wunder WHAT he sees when he looks in the mirror. RIDE SAFE.

[therapist]

I suppose we could make an empty claim that there are WMD's over there, as an excuse to get involved militarily.  Oh, wait...we tried that, and after the loss of too many young men and women, we decided that was not such a good idea.  Maybe erring on the side of caution is the smarter thing in this instance.

[Fla. Jim]

I suppose we could make an empty claim that there are WMD's over there, as an excuse to get involved militarily.  Oh, wait...we tried that, and after the loss of too many young men and women, we decided that was not such a good idea.  Maybe erring on the side of caution is the smarter thing in this instance.

I concur.....At this point in time, as weak as he has made us. The Obozanator just needs to keep his whiney mouth shut. On this and everthing else for the rest of his term. He is a lame duck in "O" so many ways.

[solo1]

In general, Obama has shown a lack of knowledge and ability in foreign affairs.  i'm not sure if anything can be done now but the worlds leader's perception of his weakness has probably precipitated Putin's action.

Right now we need a return to Teddy Roosevelt's thinking, "Speak softly but carry a big stick" 

Obama and his administration has done all they can to do just the opposite.   However, they are good at drawing lines in the sand; again, and again, and again.

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I suppose we could make an empty claim that there are WMD's over there, as an excuse to get involved militarily.  Oh, wait...we tried that, and after the loss of too many young men and women, we decided that was not such a good idea.  Maybe erring on the side of caution is the smarter thing in this instance.

History fades as some forget that BOTH sides voted for action in Iraq. So whose empty claims do you refer to?

Surely not just the empty claims put forward by the likes of Clinton, Kerry etc.

Forgetting as well the thousands of Kurds in northern Iraq killed by poison gas.

[Jess from VA]

I think Hillary (ex SOS), and Kerry (current SOS) should go over with their prodigious diplomatic experience (with the same size security detail as at Benghazi; only State Dept security), and go practice diplomacy at the front...... for as long as it takes.  Diplomacy is all we should be doing, and with any luck the US might come out ahead.  

Remember, no disaster should go to waste.

[old2soon]

It's ALL gonna be okey dokey!! zero sent his lap dog kerry. Anyone get us in a war we can't win it would be this low life scum sucking piece of excreetment that was a traitor before. They are trying desperately to draw one to an inside straight.  WHY oh Why is my sphincter starting to pucker a LOT??? RIDE SAFE.

[MarkT]

It may not matter whether Hillary is elected in 2016, or who is, or for that matter who is president now. I'm beginning to think that isn't merely a pissing contest. The Soviet Union may have collapsed under its own weight rather abruptly in 1989 but that doesn't mean there isn't a nationalistic urge to return to the "glory days" when the USSR ruled the roost in the Warsaw Pact and schoolchildren practiced hiding under their desks for the day when "the big one" hit.

At various times in history there have been leaders in various countries who were willing to take the world to the brink of destruction (and perhaps beyond) to see their ambitions become reality. So far, none of them managed to put together the means to take that scenario to its furthest, and most horrifying, conclusion.

If Putin turns out to be one of those types of leaders it could be a bad thing on an unprecedented scale in the history of bad things because he does have the means.

President Obama may have made some missteps going into this thing. I suspect he did but I think it's possible that there is no right way to deal with this and maybe there never was. I can be argued that a different president may have taken actions that would have kept this from ever reaching this point but there is no way to know. I suspect that the years between 9-11 and Obama taking office for his first term left this country economically devastated, sick of war, and so politically divided that Putin is able to exploit an opportunity that would exist regardless of who is in charge over here.

If all of this is the case then we may be watching something that can spin out of control very quickly. I realize that there are a lot of people who are going to believe that Obama is screwing up simply because he is Obama and they don't like him. That is certainly their prerogative. But at this point there is a real vacuum of ideas about how to handle it differently. I think there is a real danger that economic sanctions won't matter and moving troops into the area will only start a war. A real big war that nobody can or will win.

Just for the record, I don't think he is handling this situation well at all, but I'll be cursed if I can come up with any different course of action that would do anything but make it escalate more quickly. I sure hope I'm wrong. 

Hmm.  This is the most sense I've ever seen you express.  I'll leave it at that.

[BF]

I think Hillary (ex SOS), and Kerry (current SOS) should go over with their prodigious diplomatic experience (with the same size security detail as at Benghazi; only State Dept security), and go practice diplomacy at the front...... for as long as it takes.  Diplomacy is all we should be doing, and with any luck the US might come out ahead.  

Remember, no disaster should go to waste.

What's Kerry gonna do.....throw his medals at 'em?

And for Hillary....she's got combat experience, with dodging sniper fire and all.  

               

I can't help it, but every time I look at Kerry I think of Neville Chamberlain. 

[MarkT]

I think Hillary (ex SOS), and Kerry (current SOS) should go over with their prodigious diplomatic experience (with the same size security detail as at Benghazi; only State Dept security), and go practice diplomacy at the front...... for as long as it takes.  Diplomacy is all we should be doing, and with any luck the US might come out ahead.  

Remember, no disaster should go to waste.

Take Zero with them - with the same level of security.

What's Kerry gonna do.....throw his medals at 'em?

And for Hillary....she's got combat experience, with dodging sniper fire and all. 

                       

I can't help it, but every time I look at Kerry I think of Neville Chamberlain. 

His Purple Hearts - that he put himself in for - one of which was for a scratched finger.

And the Hildebeast - having any say in this AT ALL?   God help us.  There needs to be a serious housecleaning in Washington.  I just hope we can survive to the improved power base this fall.  Then again to 2016 while Zero can't get ANYTHING done in his agenda, gets frustrated, issues Imperial Edicts, and the left finally loses it and the country at large supports his impeachment.  Meanwhile - STAY THE HELL OUT OF BLACK SEA INVOLVEMENT.  Zero is a laughing stock, don't meddle you have NO CREDIBILITY OR SUPPORT ON THE WORLD STAGE.

[Master Blaster]

You reap what you sow, and we are reaping what Presbo has been sowing every since he got elected.  He did ask that Putin not do anything until after he was re elected, then he would have more room to maneuver.   Well he got his wish.  It is mind boggleing the incompetence In every facet of this presidency.  However he does know how to live big on our dollar.

[Trynt]

From a statement released from the White House:

'The United States will suspend upcoming participation in preparatory meetings for the G-8. Going forward, Russia's continued violation of international law will lead to greater political and economic isolation.'

Furthermore, this is going on Putin's permanent record and Obama is going to assign him secret double detention!

[old2soon]

From a statement released from the White House:

'The United States will suspend upcoming participation in preparatory meetings for the G-8. Going forward, Russia's continued violation of international law will lead to greater political and economic isolation.'

Furthermore, this is going on Putin's permanent record and Obama is going to assign him secret double detention!

And triple demerits and a pinky swear!!  Oh-I heard zero gonna TRY and make Putin clean the erasers to.  RIDE SAFE.

[Stanley Steamer]

Obummer is like a British PO........"You there......STOP!!......or I'll say STOP again!!"......

[old2soon]

zero is bringing a snot rag to a street fight. And the sad part-he don't know realize or seem to care he has already lost!!  I can deal with him making a laughingstock of himself. But zero kerry hildabeast and others are dragging our country down with them. RIDE SAFE.

[Pappy!]

Quit calling him names?
I will when he starts to command respect. Don't hold your breath on that.


Oh and Mitch McConell?
Mitch is Harry Reid's best friend. McConnell is a joke as well.
Who does Reid go to in the Repub party every time he needs something done?

[art]

The only deterrent to "any" nation's expansion has been a stronger one. We need to be upgraded our military not dissolving it...... Unless "Fundamentally changing America" means making it into a third world country.  Without a say in any meaningful way in World events.

I agree on this, we need to be a strong America like during the Cuban missile crisis. Bullies only respect strength. It took a long time to get us here and it will take a long time to recover and yes we should stay out of it, it's none of out business.

[donaldcc]

I agree on this, we need to be a strong America like during the Cuban missile crisis. Bullies only respect strength. It took a long time to get us here and it will take a long time to recover and yes we should stay out of it, it's none of out business.

[BF]

I agree on this, we need to be a strong America like during the Cuban missile crisis. Bullies only respect strength. It took a long time to get us here and it will take a long time to recover and yes we should stay out of it, it's none of out business.

Nibble nibble. 

[donaldcc]

Nibble nibble. 

[musclehead]

what should Obama do? well it's far too late for him to do anything meaningful. he can threaten, but it will seem weak and ineffective. he has set this table up for himself from day one, now he must eat.

we have always known America needs a strong decisive leader to deal with the worlds 'thugs countries'. Obama has shown again and again he's good for a few drone strikes and some darn good bowing.

[G-Man]

Obama= Community Organizer, no more no less.     

Dude,.....NOT EVEN!!!!!!!!

In the last 7 years that he's been on the national scene, have you EVER heard of someone, anyone, who worked with him, worked for him, was helped by him, or anything that was improved by him, helped by him, or saved by him when he was that supposed organizer?

I haven't.  And I've been listening.

Have you heard from anyone who took his constitutional law class at Harvard?  Neither have I. 

Let's see, Hmmmm, A KGB Operative vs. the guy above............... 

[old2soon]

Obama= Community Organizer, no more no less.     

Dude,.....NOT EVEN!!!!!!!!

In the last 7 years that he's been on the national scene, have you EVER heard of someone, anyone, who worked with him, worked for him, was helped by him, or anything that was improved by him, helped by him, or saved by him when he was that supposed organizer?

I haven't.  And I've been listening.

Have you heard from anyone who took his constitutional law class at Harvard?  Neither have I. 

Let's see, Hmmmm, A KGB Operative vs. the guy above............... 

Putin will bitch slap zero before zero can get his shiv out. And all kerry gonna do is say what zero told him to say-kerry gonna git bitch slapped too. RIDE SAFE.

[Serk]

what should Obama do? well it's far too late for him to do anything meaningful. he can threaten, but it will seem weak and ineffective. he has set this table up for himself from day one, now he must eat.

we have always known America needs a strong decisive leader to deal with the worlds 'thugs countries'. Obama has shown again and again he's good for a few drone strikes and some darn good bowing.

As I alluded to earlier, we currently have Neville Chamberlain, and we're waiting for our Winston Churchill to come along... I just hope not too many have to die before we figure this out. 

[Paxton]

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnn

"The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off."
— Gloria Steinem