front brakes?

[Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008]

Can rear pads be ran in the front brakes? Only difference I see is the little notch in the front of the rear pad that the fronts do not need.Is there any difference in pad material? The fronts are 35 buck each times two and the rears are about 25 each at HDL. I know I'm cheap but money saved is money earned.

[BigMac (SoCal)]

No, they are thicker. You can get by running front on the back if you have to though.

Dave

[Ricky-D]

I can't see it!

The front brake pads are at least a half inch shorter that the rear pads.

So there's no chance the rear pads will even fit in the front calipers.

The pin holes seem to be about the same in both pads, so you might possibly get a set of front brake pads in the rear wheel caliper but since they are so short there is nothing to hold the one end and as soon as the pads fall (rotate) out of the caliper you will be pushing the pistons up against the rotor and doing damage.

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[John U.]

I can't see it!

The front brake pads are at least a half inch shorter that the rear pads.

So there's no chance the rear pads will even fit in the front calipers.

The pin holes seem to be about the same in both pads, so you might possibly get a set of front brake pads in the rear wheel caliper but since they are so short there is nothing to hold the one end and as soon as the pads fall (rotate) out of the caliper you will be pushing the pistons up against the rotor and doing damage.

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I can't see a half inch difference, or any difference in size.
The spare front and rear OEM brake pads I have appear to be the same size, except for the thickness and the notch. I'mlooking at front pads #06455-MV4-405 and rears #06435-MBY-671
(I/S pads). They are both 4" in overall length.

[Ricky-D]

2000 Valkyrie Interstate



A picture is worth a thousand words.

Rear pads are at the top, front pads at the bottom.

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[John U.]

Those pads do indeed measure differently. You need to check the numbers. One of them isn't correct.
HDL specifies 06455-MV4-405 for the front brakes of  Valk Standards, Tourers and I/S.
I have two sets in unopened blister packs. They measure 4" overall.
HDL specifies 06435-MBY-671 for the rear brakes of the I/S. I have two sets them in
unopened blister packs. They also measure 4" overall.
If my daughter hadn't screwed up my digital camera I would post pics.
Maybe someone else can verify the measurements.

[98valk]

vesrah shows them the same size backing plate, just thicknesses are different. Ferodo shows the same also. 8.2 mm is stock thk front,  9.6 mm is the max that will fit from what I have been told, in fact this thk is all that ferodo imports into USA. rear is 10.3 mm, don't know if they will squeeze in or not. I just ordered the vesrah 9.6mm for my bike from denniskirk, haven't instl them yet. they are HH pads and highly rated.

http://catalog.vesrah.co.jp/index_street_f.html     click on brakes, then search

http://www.ferodoracing.com/catalogue/search.php?search=motorcycle_vehicle&cat=brake_pads

[Ricky-D]

Ok, now I am really concerned.

I've had these pads for the rear sitting in the cabinet for quite a long time and I don't remember where I got them.

They're EBC Double-H FA261hh and I looked them up only to find they are not listed for the Valkyrie.

Maybe tomorrow I'll take off the bag and investigate further.  If they are incorrect I'll be glad to have found out now!

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[Chrisj CMA]

2000 Valkyrie Interstate



A picture is worth a thousand words.

Rear pads are at the top, front pads at the bottom.

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I feel confident that pad on top in the picture is not the correct one for a Valkyrie

[Robert]

Rear thicker than the front that's the only difference.I think you may be right Chris Valks have only one nub on the top the top pad has 2.

[Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008]

Ok now I'm starting to wonder what I've got. I started this as I had a pad on the front get down to metal. I had saved a few old pads from earlier changes and did not know which were front or rear. the Only difference I could see in these pads was a notch in the front of some pads and no notch in others.I front pads I removed didn't have a notch but the pad I replaced it with had the notch but fit perfectly. I just ordered a complete set from HDL so I'll be able to eyeball to pads soon and I check out the wills and won'ts of this question. :-\TIA

[98valk]

application chart
http://www.powersportsfx.com/sa/cart/detail.asp?pg=%7BA8FB6ACB-DD4C-4E68-97B7-275D1BF8E270%7D

cross reference
http://www.motorcyclepads.com/Motorcycle-Brake-Pads-Comparison-Charts.aspx

good explanation of why EBC cause problems, it has to do with the torque curve of the pads
http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/general-sportbikes/384441-brake-pads.html
Different brake pads have different torque curves... the coefficient of friction changes as you both heat the pads, and as you increase lever pressure. That being the case, some pads literally 'run hot' under light loads... having a high coefficient of friction from the get-go and a flat torque curve... meaning the friction co-efficient changes as you exert increasing amounts of pressure. EBC pads are an excellent example of such a pad.

Enjoy.