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Started by Jeff K, Fri 23, Oct 2009, 11:59:22

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MINNEAPOLIS  —  Bong water can count as a controlled substance, the Minnesota Supreme Court ruled Thursday in a decision that raises the threat of longer sentences for drug smokers who fail to dump the water out of their pipes.

In a 4-3 decision Thursday, the state's highest court said a person can be prosecuted for a first-degree drug crime for 25 grams or more of bong water that tests positive for a controlled substance. :D :o

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Quote from: Jeff K on Fri 23, Oct 2009, 11:59:22
Bong water can count as a controlled substance

It is very important to control your bong water...



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I read somewhere that  dope smokers would sometimes use wine in the water pipes.  That sounds like they could maybe drink the evidence.

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Quote from: fiddle mike on Fri 23, Oct 2009, 12:49:06
I read somewhere that  dope smokers would sometimes use wine in the water pipes.  That sounds like they could maybe drink the evidence.



yeah...I ..ahem....."read" that somewhere too. I also "read" where it make the wine taste like crappola  :-[
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Quote from: fiddle mike on Fri 23, Oct 2009, 12:49:06
I read somewhere that  dope smokers would sometimes use wine in the water pipes.  That sounds like they could maybe drink the evidence.


Ewwwww, bong water....  :uglystupid2:


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State and Fed drug laws use a schedule of substances (skag/coke/crank down to weed).  They also use quantity (weight) as a crime multiplier (enough, and you can be a presumed seller, even if you're not).  I could easily see calling 'thc tainted' water a controlled substance, but it would be patently unfair using water weight to enhance the crime.  A pound of weed is one thing, 12oz of bongwater is another.  Of course, possession of 'paraphanalia' is also an offense most places.

38 years ago I took part in a college experiment using scotch and bongwater.  I "inhaled," but only that one time.  Gag/choke/yuk; IMHO it was a waste of cheap scotch (with or without ice).  :o

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In a sharply worded dissent, Justice Paul Anderson said the majority's decision "does not make sense, and borders on the absurd." He said it isn't consistent with what the Legislature intended when it wrote the state's drug laws. And he blasted Rice County authorities for charging Peck with such a serious crime.

If bong water is considered a drug mixture, and it weighs enough to raise the crime to a first-degree drug offense, the presumed sentence for a first-time offender is seven years and two months in prison, and a felony drug offense goes on his or her record, Paul Anderson wrote.

But if the bong water is treated as part of the drug paraphernalia, as the lower courts held, he wrote, the same defendant would face no more than a $300 fine and the petty misdemeanor conviction would not go on his or her record.

Justices Alan Page and Helen Meyer joined in Paul Anderson's dissent.


I rest my case!  This issue was probably prosecuted because the dope was meth (not weed), and they didn't find any meth otherwise.   Note that the weight at issue is only 37 grams (2 1/2 tablespoons) to be a first degree felony.   This is possession of meth...... but the fair thing to do would be to reduce the countable water weight by a fraction of the actual potentcy of the mixture.

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 bong water makes the plants grow like weeds  :uglystupid2:

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....just dont overfill the bong with water....cuz when ya do...yer  sittin back takin a REALLYYYY BIG HIT....and that murky water suddenly comes up and fills yer mouth....and man....it taste NASTYYYYY !!!!



. .....at least. . ....thats what Ive heard anyway..  :coolsmiley:



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