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How does your Valkyrie sound on start up??

Started by AdrianR, Tue 30, Aug 2016, 20:23:51

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AdrianR

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Just curious as to anything you have noticed...especially in the first 2-4 seconds...
Just a guy who likes to ride and rock...

Kidd

#1
Just a guy who likes to rock and ride ...

Flows better



If I like to go fast , does that make me a racist ???

hungryeye

After several seconds the engine sounds quieter. Its weird, I don't here any rattle or nocking, it just quiets up after the oil circulates. I think that's what your getting at?
2014 F6c Red ish
1983 GL650 cream puff
2010 Spyder RS

we DRIVE our cars, we RIDE our motorcycles!

Robert

Adrian what kind of noise are you looking to verify? Mine sounds like normal sometimes there is a tick for a few seconds but it goes away.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

AdrianR

Quote from: Robert on Wed 31, Aug 2016, 07:44:18
Adrian what kind of noise are you looking to verify? Mine sounds like normal sometimes there is a tick for a few seconds but it goes away.

That is precisely what I hear...I guess it is normal...the Honda dude told me it was.
Just a guy who likes to ride and rock...

Kidd

Quote from: Robert on Wed 31, Aug 2016, 07:44:18
Adrian what kind of noise are you looking to verify? Mine sounds like normal sometimes there is a tick for a few seconds but it goes away.

as does all motors



If I like to go fast , does that make me a racist ???

Moofner

Oil flow getting through all the motor. Sounds normal. I cringe when people start their bikes and immediatly rev it up. Thats when the no no magic eats your motor alive.
2003 Valkyrie "Ricky's Bike"
2014 Valkyrie "The Gypsy Bride"


Robert

#7
OK I was at the track a few times and what I noticed is at about 115 for a bit the exhaust note changes. Its noticeably louder either at idle or just cruising along. The sound goes away after a bit or when you shut it off and restart but its definitely there.The first time I heard it I thought I was hearing things then the same thing happened after this track run. Anyone else heard this exhaust change of note? I wonder if there is some kind of timing adjustment or something when you are pushing it?
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

hubcapsc

Quote from: AdrianR on Wed 31, Aug 2016, 14:17:46
Quote from: Robert on Wed 31, Aug 2016, 07:44:18
Adrian what kind of noise are you looking to verify? Mine sounds like normal sometimes there is a tick for a few seconds but it goes away.

That is precisely what I hear...I guess it is normal...the Honda dude told me it was.

A sound like... marbles in a far away blender? Sand being blown off surfaces
by the radiator fan? Goes away quickly...

-Mike

Dragunslayer

Quote from: Robert on Thu 01, Sep 2016, 06:32:37
OK I was at the track a few times and what I noticed is at about 115 for a bit the exhaust note changes. Its noticeably louder either at idle or just cruising along. The sound goes away after a bit or when you shut it off and restart but its definitely there.The first time I heard it I thought I was hearing things then the same thing happened after this track run. Anyone else heard this exhaust change of note? I wonder if there is some kind of timing adjustment or something when you are pushing it?

At the track huh   :angel: I can verify a timing change at 125mph where ECM shuts the bike off/on/off as I keep trying to push it faster but NO JOY GHOSTRIDER :uglystupid2:
Kevin Reinhold AKA Dragunslayer
Robertsville, Mo
1999 Honda Valkyrie Tourer
2015 Kawasaki Concours 14
2016 Suzuki GSXS-1000F
"AN APEX IS A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE"

havoc

i would love to see someone with the tech skills ( cough cough... MOOFNER!!) remove that limiter and see what this baby can really do!!!
"Not all those who wander are lost" - J. R. R. Tolkien

AdrianR

Quote from: havoc on Wed 07, Sep 2016, 11:05:29
i would love to see someone with the tech skills ( cough cough... MOOFNER!!) remove that limiter and see what this baby can really do!!!

Not sure. There is someone who cannot reflash the ECM/U whatever they call it..  Allows for more fuel in all gears, no timing retardation in first and second gear...increase the rev limited by 500rpms...and eliminate the top speed limiter as well... I will wait for the warranty to expire before I do this...
Just a guy who likes to ride and rock...

Robert

It doesn't only require tech skills but a computer with the OEM Honda program on it or a aftermarket that can adjust these parameters. It also requires knowing what the best adjustment would be. Its not easy and tuners can make a lot of money. The Ghul company does do reprogramming and its pretty cheap at 350.00. But like Adrian said I will wait till the warranty is out. I don't want to part with the bike for the time it takes and honestly all the adjustments may make it more to my liking, but none are going to be earth shaking. The other thing I heard he does which I would like is take the high cold idle off also.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

st2sam

#13
Quote from: AdrianR on Wed 07, Sep 2016, 15:28:54
Quote from: havoc on Wed 07, Sep 2016, 11:05:29Lets see what this baby can really do!!!
Someone needed who can reflash - Allow for more fuel in all gears, no timing retardation in first and second gear...increase the rev limited by 500rpms...and eliminate the top speed limiter as well...

Fook the warranty, I'd be all over this in a heart beat!  :cooldude:

IMHO - yes the bike is pretty fast - but that is subjective. Before I bought my Valk I was riding a Kawasaki C14, before that a Kawasaki ZX14.

Again, IMHO - as is, the bike is JUST fast enough.
My favorite thing about the Valk, (as it sits) it's a great ride, ride it hard or easy!  :cooldude:

AdrianR

#14
Quote from: st2sam on Wed 07, Sep 2016, 16:53:49
Quote from: AdrianR on Wed 07, Sep 2016, 15:28:54
Quote from: havoc on Wed 07, Sep 2016, 11:05:29Lets see what this baby can really do!!!
Someone needed who can reflash - Allow for more fuel in all gears, no timing retardation in first and second gear...increase the rev limited by 500rpms...and eliminate the top speed limiter as well...

Fook the warranty, I'd be all over this in a heart beat!  :cooldude:

IMHO - yes the bike is pretty fast - but that is subjective. Before I bought my Valk I was riding a Kawasaki C14, before that a Kawasaki ZX14.

Again, IMHO - as is, the bike is JUST fast enough.
My favorite thing about the Valk, (as it sits) it's a great ride, ride it hard or easy!  :cooldude:


Hey dude...GO FOR IT!  GUHL motors...their all over the web.  Brain dead man.  Remove the seat, unplug the unit, unstrap the bungie cord that holds it in place...  Mail the unit to them...have it back freight paid (by them) in a day or so.  Reinstall.  LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK!!  Some other person on here did it...and then was queried about their feelings...and that person went away.   Have it done and let us know!  Pllzzzz....

Yes, the bike IS fast enough....but without getting TOO greedy...one would think that there is some more ponies to be had for such a large, well balanced engine.  I can *feel* the timing retardation in first and second gear.  It is obvious.  Just note how different the bike feels in 3-5th gear.
Just a guy who likes to ride and rock...

Moofner

Quote from: AdrianR on Wed 07, Sep 2016, 15:28:54
Quote from: havoc on Wed 07, Sep 2016, 11:05:29
i would love to see someone with the tech skills ( cough cough... MOOFNER!!) remove that limiter and see what this baby can really do!!!

Not sure. There is someone who cannot reflash the ECM/U whatever they call it..  Allows for more fuel in all gears, no timing retardation in first and second gear...increase the rev limited by 500rpms...and eliminate the top speed limiter as well... I will wait for the warranty to expire before I do this...


I'm flattered by the mention but in this case there isn't anything I can do. The limiter isn't mechanical, it is computer based. I don't have the equipment to interface with the ECM and I wouldn't even know where to start on how to read Honda's code.

Truth be told, I also don't have a desire to go that fast! I hit 115 MPH on the bike and that was fast enough. There is no road I would feel 100% comfortable on around here at +100 speeds.
2003 Valkyrie "Ricky's Bike"
2014 Valkyrie "The Gypsy Bride"


woofred1832

              I have only hit 100+mph once just to see how fast it could get there.........WOW......   most roads are good for like 80 or so but get way to rough to be at 100....... when the bike can do 80 right at shift point to 4th I see no reason to dought that 140 would be possible but why push it . When the VTX first came out I road one in southern Colorado and hit 120 and the bike would almost go air born over the hilly country roads, scared me so I bought a 850 Suzukie bake in 1980 had that bike till I got the 1992 VTX 1300 then saw a Valkyrie, found one in Crystal Lake  thought that would be my last bike I would ever have to buy.......but then Honda brought the Valkyrie back and when I test road one WOW had to have one even though it ment I had to sell the VTX  and the 1998 Val. But now I know THIS  bike will out live me.... and my son says well Dad when you cant ride anymore I'll take it ....... I said don't hold your breath I have many many years to go before I call it           ride safe life is good especially on a Valkyrie.......

hungryeye

There is a way to figger top speed by RPM, gear ratio and tire size, something like that, but it is above my pay grade, any mechanical engineers with us? What rpm does it cut out at in high gear? Or at what speed and RPM does it cut out?
2014 F6c Red ish
1983 GL650 cream puff
2010 Spyder RS

we DRIVE our cars, we RIDE our motorcycles!

havoc

#18
ok Adrian, here's a video clip of what my Valk sounds like on startup.

https://youtu.be/E5K93nTuQ0g
"Not all those who wander are lost" - J. R. R. Tolkien

TallRider

Sounds like mine just the sweet purr of a well made machine with a soft whine. :)
1951 HD FLH Chopped
1978 Honda Goldwing
2005 VTX 1800
2014 Honda Valkyrie

havoc

it's a thing of beauty, ain't it? And can she roar when you take her above 4000 rpm  :evil:
"Not all those who wander are lost" - J. R. R. Tolkien

Robert

Quote from: havoc on Thu 08, Sep 2016, 09:26:07
ok Adrian, here's a video clip of what my Valk sounds like on startup.

https://youtu.be/E5K93nTuQ0g

Wow, the hula girl on the back is classy.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."