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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2018, 06:19:51 PM » |
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Many people can't handle stressful life threatening situations. I have no doubt if I ever have a heart attack or something, I'm a goner. My wife falls apart in those kind of situations. As much as I've explained that she can fall apart when it's over. It's just her nature, can't change it. But, what I find most baffling about the video is the First Lady cop taking the time to take her shoes off before jumping in to help the kid. WTF !
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2018, 03:13:12 AM » |
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It looked like to me there was enough people giving aid. I wonder if the staff shut off the system. Sometimes life saving action is behind the scene.
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2018, 03:48:09 AM » |
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the first thing i thought of was to get a hose and use it as an air supply, like a snorkel. looking at the video, there is a black hose hanging on the wall at the far side of the pool.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2018, 04:06:41 AM » |
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the first thing i thought of was to get a hose and use it as an air supply, like a snorkel. looking at the video, there is a black hose hanging on the wall at the far side of the pool.
A snorkel (hose) can only be so long and then you can't push the air out
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2018, 05:00:46 AM » |
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the first thing i thought of was to get a hose and use it as an air supply, like a snorkel. looking at the video, there is a black hose hanging on the wall at the far side of the pool.
A snorkel (hose) can only be so long and then you can't push the air out yes, just cut it (to 3', 4', 5' send someone for a scissors, knife or something) but for a few minutes even at full length its better than nothing.
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2018, 05:08:39 AM » |
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the first thing i thought of was to get a hose and use it as an air supply, like a snorkel. looking at the video, there is a black hose hanging on the wall at the far side of the pool.
A snorkel (hose) can only be so long and then you can't push the air out yes, just cut it (to 3', 4', 5' send someone for a scissors, knife or something) but for a few minutes even at full length its better than nothing. Someone did mouth to mouth under water. That’s better than the kid trying to push air up a four or five food hose. I don’t think he could have done it.
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2018, 05:12:28 AM » |
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the first thing i thought of was to get a hose and use it as an air supply, like a snorkel. looking at the video, there is a black hose hanging on the wall at the far side of the pool.
A snorkel (hose) can only be so long and then you can't push the air out yes, just cut it (to 3', 4', 5' send someone for a scissors, knife or something) but for a few minutes even at full length its better than nothing. Someone did mouth to mouth under water. That’s better than the kid trying to push air up a four or five food hose. I don’t think he could have done it. I'm not understanding this. Couldn't he breathe air in thru the hose and exhale thru his nose ? I do think this would have been a big waste of time though. Removing the kid from the drain would be task #1.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2018, 05:14:01 AM » |
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the first thing i thought of was to get a hose and use it as an air supply, like a snorkel. looking at the video, there is a black hose hanging on the wall at the far side of the pool.
A snorkel (hose) can only be so long and then you can't push the air out Jersey Mike you brought me in on this conversation when you mentioned my name.  Exactly right, however there would need to be a compressor forcing the air thru the hose, Good thought though. Jeff, one only needs to get the air in if there was a compressor and exhale in the water,no need to exhale thru the hose, right? ???
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2018, 05:20:43 AM » |
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the first thing i thought of was to get a hose and use it as an air supply, like a snorkel. looking at the video, there is a black hose hanging on the wall at the far side of the pool.
A snorkel (hose) can only be so long and then you can't push the air out Jersey Mike you brought me in on this conversation when you mentioned my name.  Exactly right, however there would need to be a compressor forcing the air thru the hose, Good thought though. Jeff, one only needs to get the air in if there was a compressor and exhale in the water,no need to exhale thru the hose, right? ??? That kid is not going to understand that. Unless he is an experienced snorkeler he will just drink a lot of water trying that with no instruction. Yes you are technically right but it won’t be instictive for a scared drowning kid to deal with a hose under water. The under water mouth to mouth was the right move 
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2018, 05:50:32 AM » |
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It looked like to me there was enough people giving aid. I wonder if the staff shut off the system. Sometimes life saving action is behind the scene.
Watching the time and watching the people who did nothing I'd disagree. Count how many did nothing.
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2018, 05:53:51 AM » |
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A special award for the female officer who stopped to remove her shoes before getting in the water.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2018, 05:57:15 AM » |
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I wonder if the staff shut off the system. Sometimes life saving action is behind the scene.
I agree, there should be an emergency cut-off switch by the pool that is clearly marked.
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2018, 06:23:48 AM » |
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A special award for the female officer who stopped to remove her shoes before getting in the water.

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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2018, 08:47:45 AM » |
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the first thing i thought of was to get a hose and use it as an air supply, like a snorkel. looking at the video, there is a black hose hanging on the wall at the far side of the pool.
A snorkel (hose) can only be so long and then you can't push the air out Jersey Mike you brought me in on this conversation when you mentioned my name.  Exactly right, however there would need to be a compressor forcing the air thru the hose, Good thought though. Jeff, one only needs to get the air in if there was a compressor and exhale in the water,no need to exhale thru the hose, right? ??? That kid is not going to understand that. Unless he is an experienced snorkeler he will just drink a lot of water trying that with no instruction. Yes you are technically right but it won’t be instictive for a scared drowning kid to deal with a hose under water. The under water mouth to mouth was the right move  Wait a minute here, I’m not saying that mouth to mouth was not the right thing to do here it clearly worked I’m happy someone knew how to do that. The hard part is trying keep up with mouth to mouth and get the leg unstuck at the same time. Luckily there were people there to pitch in. I didn’t see the emergency shut off switch to cut the suction that would be a big help trying to get the foot unwedged.
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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2018, 12:58:27 PM » |
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Removing your shoes before swimming (a lot) in a lake to save someone is a good idea.
Doing it to save someone in a pool is just saving your shoes/boots.
If there was someone trustworthy there, I might hand him my wallet.
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« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2018, 03:32:48 PM » |
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A special award for the female officer who stopped to remove her shoes before getting in the water.
What's wrong with that, took her all of a second. You want to complain about the other cop who took off his duty belt first?? The fact of the matter is they did jump in and get the job done. You want to complain about the time it took the other guy to put the baby in the float down too instead of just chucking it over his shoulder? Probably took about the same amount of time as the cops taking off their boots and belts.
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« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2018, 04:35:46 PM » |
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A special award for the female officer who stopped to remove her shoes before getting in the water.
What's wrong with that, took her all of a second. You want to complain about the other cop who took off his duty belt first?? The fact of the matter is they did jump in and get the job done. You want to complain about the time it took the other guy to put the baby in the float down too instead of just chucking it over his shoulder? Probably took about the same amount of time as the cops taking off their boots and belts. 26 seconds from the time she was standing there till she started to help the kid.
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« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2018, 04:51:51 PM » |
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A special award for the female officer who stopped to remove her shoes before getting in the water.
What's wrong with that, took her all of a second. You want to complain about the other cop who took off his duty belt first?? The fact of the matter is they did jump in and get the job done. You want to complain about the time it took the other guy to put the baby in the float down too instead of just chucking it over his shoulder? Probably took about the same amount of time as the cops taking off their boots and belts. 26 seconds from the time she was standing there till she started to help the kid. But she did jump in and help, gotta give her credit for that. Never judge how people react to a stressful situation until you can put yourself in the same situation. Some folks handle it good, some don't, some jump right in, some step back and analyze for a few seconds, some take off screaming. My line of work I've seen about all the reactions. The kid is expected to make a complete recovery with no deficits, but there is video leading up to this that shows that kid and a couple of friends getting the grate off of that intake. Stupid kids doing stupid stuff that got lucky.
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« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2018, 04:58:06 PM » |
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A special award for the female officer who stopped to remove her shoes before getting in the water.
What's wrong with that, took her all of a second. You want to complain about the other cop who took off his duty belt first?? The fact of the matter is they did jump in and get the job done. You want to complain about the time it took the other guy to put the baby in the float down too instead of just chucking it over his shoulder? Probably took about the same amount of time as the cops taking off their boots and belts. 26 seconds from the time she was standing there till she started to help the kid. But she did jump in and help, gotta give her credit for that. Never judge how people react to a stressful situation until you can put yourself in the same situation. Some folks handle it good, some don't, some jump right in, some step back and analyze for a few seconds, some take off screaming. My line of work I've seen about all the reactions. The kid is expected to make a complete recovery with no deficits, but there is video leading up to this that shows that kid and a couple of friends getting the grate off of that intake. Stupid kids doing stupid stuff that got lucky. I completely understand that. See my first statement about my wife. BUT....I EXPECT ALL COPS TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE STRESS.  As far as the kids removing the grate. I would expect it to be screwed on. My private home pool is. I see lawyers lining up.
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« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2018, 05:11:21 PM » |
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In the past, I've read about people who sat on a pool intake and got their whole large/small intestines sucked out (and die). What a way to go.
By far, the best pool story is Caddyshack and Bill Murray eating the Baby Ruth.
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« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2018, 06:15:00 PM » |
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How do you get the 400 lb gorilla off the kid
Let him see you Throw a banana someplace
When someone is stuck if you cant find the power source then grab any flat item (seat cushion, kevlar vest whatever) and lever and wedge it between the person and part of the drain. It is also how you get a multiple inlet system to build suction at the top skimmer Dont ask how I know this
No judgment being passed on the cops by me. At least the gal tried,
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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2018, 06:49:19 PM » |
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