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She is gone, never to return.
Is that a promise?
Do you have her Ruby shoes or something?
Consititutional prohibitions against federal officeholders can always be relevant, assuming there is some evidence they have violated them. Not made up, wishful thinking, fishing expedition evidence, but actual objective evidence..... like judges require to issue search warrants.
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Taxation is theft.
How much a person earns is their business, and should remain their business.
Even if one accepts taxation as something other than theft, that information should STILL be only between the individual and the minimum number of personnel at the IRS required to verify the authenticity of it.
If someone wishes to divulge that information of their own free will that's also their business.
Pointing a gun at someone's head and demanding they tell everyone how much they earn or else is the kind of tactic that should be relegated to history books, not current events.
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Maybe I'm just old fashioned or my parents raised me differently, but I was taught from an early age it's the height of rudeness to ask someone how much money they make.
I’m pretty sure you believe in the Constitution. The emoluments clause, also called the foreign emoluments clause, is a provision of the U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 9, Paragraph  that generally prohibits federal officeholders from receiving any gift, payment, or other thing of value from a foreign state or its rulers, officers, or representatives. The clause provides that:No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State. I’m pretty sure you also know that Congress has a constitutional requirement of oversight. Warning, be aware that liberal deflection is in process and factual information distortion is necessary. Do you not believe the emoluments clause is relevant here ? NO, and I suspect that you do not either. |
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Ron, the previous election has been debated here innumerable times. We are past that. It’s about whether Trump or his campaign conspired with the Russians. It’s about if Trump is violating the emoluments clause. It’s about whether Trump has hurt the American people by helping the Russians. Whether you felt Trump was the better choice than Clinton is ilrelevant at this point. She is gone, never to return.
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First this tax issue is not for past presidents, Really, how convenient. But in reality the past presidents all of them not just Obama and not just dems or republicans would be hard pressed to have legitimate returns. The Clinton's as an example even before they got into the White House and were in the Governors office practically ran a criminal organization. I'm sure that their taxes no way no how reflected the truth to their dealings. What would they put 10 mill from drug cartels,  Apple gets off with millions if not billions a year in corp taxes because they have lawyers and schemes not scams and use the tax codes to their advantage. What BS. Exactly what it is, a witch hunt pure and simple. BTW I heard Clinton is considering a 2020 run. What I really dont understand here is responding to someone who has no conception of the not only the tax returns and what that means but has no need to address the wrongs in the campaign outside of Trump. Even the proven lack of evidence against Trump in collusion but also the overwhelming evidence that the Clinton's nearly hijacked an election seem to glide right on by these individuals. Yet everyone responds like its going some where, like somehow magically the ether will diminish and they will see the light. There is no truth so there can be no common ground. |
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On a more pragmatic, not Trump specific level one more observation - We're already scraping the bottom of the barrel to find people semi-qualified for the job that are willing to put up with all the crap they have to go through to get the job; make it a legal requirement that they disclose their most intimate personal financial details and see the pool of successful intelligent people willing to jump through those hoops get even smaller...
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On a more pragmatic, not Trump specific level one more observation - We're already scraping the bottom of the barrel to find people semi-qualified for the job that are willing to put up with all the crap they have to go through to get the job; make it a legal requirement that they disclose their most intimate personal financial details and see the pool of successful intelligent people willing to jump through those hoops get even smaller...
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People really have no reason unless they have done something wrong. I'd have no problem divulging my tax return. I'm sure there are plenty who'd have no problem also. So if you were a businessman with various businesses and projects you would be ok with letting your competitors know who you do business with, who supplies you, how much business you do, and where you may be doing business in the future? Really? No problem with that? If the IRS hasn't legally moved on Trump then what is the issue? |
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People really have no reason unless they have done something wrong. I'd have no problem divulging my tax return. I'm sure there are plenty who'd have no problem also. So if you were a businessman with various businesses and projects you would be ok with letting your competitors know who you do business with, who supplies you, how much business you do, and where you may be doing business in the future? Really? No problem with that? If the IRS hasn't legally moved on Trump then what is the issue? Were I to run for office of the president I would be more than willing to divulge that info so that the people knew what they were getting. Really, no problem. Are you there to serve your country or to try to make more money ? |
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Almost no one but millionaires can afford or even hope to successfully run for big national office.
They don't have to renounce their wealth or businesses to run and serve (just step back and let someone else run it).
They have as much right to privacy about their wealth and business as anyone else. And (all socialist BS aside) there is no crime or dishonesty or bad character or immorality inherent in being a millionaire.
If you (or I) ran, no one would give a sh!t about our tax returns. They'd be laughing too hard to care about them.
Serk is right on the money too. It's hard enough to get good people to run and serve as it is, and requiring people to divulge their entire life history, wealth and finances would just make it harder to get good people to run and serve.
All things considered, we the people are lucky as hell Mr Trump ran.
And I'm sure his fair and impartial and judicious treatment by everyone during his service will be a shining light for all Americans thinking about running and serving in the future.
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If they're looking for 2017, 2018, in this case, it's because he refused to divest himself from his business interests as is required (?). Hence the emolument issue. ============================================================= Not real certain without taking another look(don't like to depend on memory anymore  ), but don't think that's a requirement. Granted, it's probably a good idea and especially for someone with such wide spread business ventures as Trump. I'm sure someone will pick up on that and set me straight if wrong. |
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He doesn't have to divest himself of all his business interests, or any business interest that may do business with foreign persons or entities or countries. He puts it all in trust during his presidency.
While in trust, if a Saudi (or any other foreigner or even country) does business with any of his businesses (hotels, real estate, golf course) and pays the fair market value of that good or service (that any other swinging dick would have to pay), that is not a prohibited gift at all. A gift is one thing, a routine, arm's length business transaction is another thing entirely.
A lawsuit about emoluments has been filed, and the plaintiff's say the lawsuit’s purpose is to hold the president accountable for violating the chief corruption prohibition in the Constitution. But that is a lie; the suit is a fishing expedition to force Trump to turn over his business records (in civil discovery). Trying to get his tax records is the same thing. A fishing expedition to find something, anything to cause him trouble or impeachment.
On the other hand, the outright gifts to the Clinton foundation, in the millions, while she was Secretary of State, actively pursuing pay-for-play, are exactly what the constitution is talking about. And the dem's had nothing at all to say about that.
When you have no cogent or recognizable platform or plan to assist your country and it's lawful citizens toward betterment, you spend your days (and government pay) seeking to 1) buy more votes, and 2) attacking the opposition and all who support it from a large bag of dirty tricks, deceit, and lies.
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People really have no reason unless they have done something wrong. I'd have no problem divulging my tax return. I'm sure there are plenty who'd have no problem also. Many have done no wrong and absolutely object to revealing there tax return and for good reasons other than "having done wrong". One reason is "it is none of anyones business". |
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People really have no reason unless they have done something wrong. I'd have no problem divulging my tax return. I'm sure there are plenty who'd have no problem also. Many have done no wrong and absolutely object to revealing there tax return and for good reasons other than "having done wrong". One reason is "it is none of anyones business". Then if you think so little of the people, don’t run for president. |
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Why would anyone give out their tax returns to the likes of Maxine, or booker, or Kamila, and the whole democratic party, when they are not only your enemy but cannot stand on the Constitution nor have the sense to understand those documents. The very same people who are launching investigations into every area of your life.  Why would you give your returns to the likes of all that have stated that they are out to impeach you? Anyone would have to be brain dead to give anything out that could in any way shape or form be used against you. Especially to the likes of Maxine Waters, an outspoken critic of President Trump, who leads the House Financial Services Committee. Al Capone was NOT charged for all his crimes, he was charged with tax evasion. A statement made to the government on a form and found to be in error was his downfall, NOT all the crimes. Obama sealed so many of his records including returns and how he became a US citizen, if those that are arguing for the release of Trumps records would be on board with Obama opening his life up to these same type of investigations then I'm all for it.
I tell you what since Meat and Baldo are all for this how about you guys get out the past three years returns and post them here along with all backup documentation. This would be a great start to show your intent and support for the resolution. It would put real movement and commitment to your position also so you could be taken seriously This one act would show that you are serious and concerned and shows a level of commitment that says not just for Trump but for me also. Just think how powerful that would be a true no holes bared position to put your money where your mouth is. Since Meat has stated he would not mind releasing his returns I think it appropriate to start the ball rolling, even though not running for office lets see how this works out. If any of you guys also find this a good idea please endorse it..  |
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I tell you what Robert. If I can figure out how to scan them and remove my SSN I will do that. I have nothing to hide. And I won’t even lie about being under audit.
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Why would anyone give out their tax returns to the likes of Maxine, or booker, or Kamila, and the whole democratic party, when they are not only your enemy but cannot stand on the Constitution nor have the sense to understand those documents. The very same people who are launching investigations into every area of your life. Why would you give your returns to the likes of all that have stated that they are out to impeach you? Anyone would have to be brain dead to give anything out that could in any way shape or form be used against you. Especially to the likes of Maxine Waters, an outspoken critic of President Trump, who leads the House Financial Services Committee. Al Capone was NOT charged for all his crimes, he was charged with tax evasion. A statement made to the government on a form and found to be in error was his downfall, NOT all the crimes. Obama sealed so many of his records including returns and how he became a US citizen, if those that are arguing for the release of Trumps records would be on board with Obama opening his life up to these same type of investigations then I'm all for it.
I tell you what since Meat and Baldo are all for this how about you guys get out the past three years returns and post them here along with all backup documentation. This would be a great start to show your intent and support for the resolution. It would put real movement and commitment to your position also so you could be taken seriously This one act would show that you are serious and concerned and shows a level of commitment that says not just for Trump but for me also. Just think how powerful that would be a true no holes bared position to put your money where your mouth is. Since Meat has stated he would not mind releasing his returns I think it appropriate to start the ball rolling, even though not running for office lets see how this works out. If any of you guys also find this a good idea please endorse it.. Obama sealed his tax records ? Got a link ? (Other than Breitbart) |
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Why would anyone give out their tax returns to the likes of Maxine, or booker, or Kamila, and the whole democratic party, when they are not only your enemy but cannot stand on the Constitution nor have the sense to understand those documents. The very same people who are launching investigations into every area of your life. Why would you give your returns to the likes of all that have stated that they are out to impeach you? Anyone would have to be brain dead to give anything out that could in any way shape or form be used against you. Especially to the likes of Maxine Waters, an outspoken critic of President Trump, who leads the House Financial Services Committee. Al Capone was NOT charged for all his crimes, he was charged with tax evasion. A statement made to the government on a form and found to be in error was his downfall, NOT all the crimes. Obama sealed so many of his records including returns and how he became a US citizen, if those that are arguing for the release of Trumps records would be on board with Obama opening his life up to these same type of investigations then I'm all for it.
I tell you what since Meat and Baldo are all for this how about you guys get out the past three years returns and post them here along with all backup documentation. This would be a great start to show your intent and support for the resolution. It would put real movement and commitment to your position also so you could be taken seriously This one act would show that you are serious and concerned and shows a level of commitment that says not just for Trump but for me also. Just think how powerful that would be a true no holes bared position to put your money where your mouth is. Since Meat has stated he would not mind releasing his returns I think it appropriate to start the ball rolling, even though not running for office lets see how this works out. If any of you guys also find this a good idea please endorse it.. As soon as I decide to run for President, I'll get right on it..... Man, you're really pushing the envelope today.... |
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Man, you're really pushing the envelope today.... yup everyday I see you guys pushing the envelope also so I just want to be part of the group. 2 liberals in a vast sea of conservatives doesn’t really constitute a group does it ? Besides, I doubt you’d be able to pass initiation. LOL....I hope the initiation didn't take place in that bar in Roanoke. (I wasn't quite myself) |
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I don't really feel its anybody's business tax returns or medical records. If they haven't paid their taxes correctly the IRS deals with that. If records were to be release the press would pick apart the conservative party records and make a huge deal out of everything, every conservative would be a criminal.
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You have to look no further than what the democrats did by opening up the high school yearbook issue with the Kavanaugh grilling to see what it has done to the Governor of Virginia. High school and college bad behavior is now “open season” for all present and future politicians.
Maybe a lesson should be learned regarding the future consequences of opening up personal and business tax returns to the general, non-CPA qualified public.
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The poll is missing an option: "All current, past and future presidents."
The most important question is why Trump hides his tax returns? What is so bad in there?
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My guess is because probably:
a) He has *way* less money than he claims. Wouldn't be surprised if he is not an actual billionaire.
b) Because he owes money (or received money) from some really bad people (Saudis, Russians, Turkey, etc).
c) Because he is making a *lot* of money out of becoming POTUS.
d) Because he is been cheating IRS for many years (actually, decades).
Maybe I'm wrong? I would love to be proven wrong.
Indeed, I would trade any day being wrong to be able to sleep well knowing that the POTUS is not under influence of external potentially hostile interests.
In any case, when the tax returns are made public, we will finally know.
Unless, somehow, Trump + GOP finds a way to push it past 2020 election (which I believe they will work together to ensure it).
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The poll is missing an option: "All current, past and future presidents."
The most important question is why Trump hides his tax returns? What is so bad in there?
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My guess is because probably:
a) He has *way* less money than he claims. Wouldn't be surprised if he is not an actual billionaire.
b) Because he owes money (or received money) from some really bad people (Saudis, Russians, Turkey, etc).
c) Because he is making a *lot* of money out of becoming POTUS.
d) Because he is been cheating IRS for many years (actually, decades).
Maybe I'm wrong? I would love to be proven wrong.
Indeed, I would trade any day being wrong to be able to sleep well knowing that the POTUS is not under influence of external potentially hostile interests.
In any case, when the tax returns are made public, we will finally know.
Unless, somehow, Trump + GOP finds a way to push it past 2020 election (which I believe they will work together to ensure it).
Let's hope this is still a nation of law and the public will finally have access to information on such important matter.
You should never have access to anyone's taxes. President or not. Why is it so important to you liberals? It really means nothing. If he is forced to show his taxes I want Hillary's and all other elected officials taxes also. Especially Hillary's. |
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Wow looked at Harry Truman's 1935 tax return 8900.00 total income  Looking at this you really realize how far we have come and how things have changed and not necessarily for the better. Thanks for posting this it was interesting. Two other take a ways from what you posted, Bill Clinton had the press secretary make a letter on his taxes. No doubt so he could not be charged with a felony and Obama's doubled his salary in becoming president. |
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« Reply #78 on: February 10, 2019, 04:33:19 AM » |
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You should never have access to anyone's taxes. President or not. Why is it so important to you liberals? It really means nothing. If he is forced to show his taxes I want Hillary's and all other elected officials taxes also. Especially Hillary's.
If we're going to open Pandora's Box, then let's open it up all the way. I want all those sealed records made public for all to view. Let's see who's hiding what!Every declared candidate should have a complete background check and the results made public. I would fully expect the number of candidates to dwindle to nothing. Rams |
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« Reply #79 on: February 10, 2019, 05:48:09 AM » |
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The poll is missing an option: "All current, past and future presidents."
The most important question is why Trump hides his tax returns? What is so bad in there?
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My guess is because probably:
a) He has *way* less money than he claims. Wouldn't be surprised if he is not an actual billionaire.
b) Because he owes money (or received money) from some really bad people (Saudis, Russians, Turkey, etc).
c) Because he is making a *lot* of money out of becoming POTUS.
d) Because he is been cheating IRS for many years (actually, decades).
Maybe I'm wrong? I would love to be proven wrong.
Indeed, I would trade any day being wrong to be able to sleep well knowing that the POTUS is not under influence of external potentially hostile interests.
In any case, when the tax returns are made public, we will finally know.
Unless, somehow, Trump + GOP finds a way to push it past 2020 election (which I believe they will work together to ensure it).
Let's hope this is still a nation of law and the public will finally have access to information on such important matter.
You should never have access to anyone's taxes. President or not. Why is it so important to you liberals? It really means nothing. If he is forced to show his taxes I want Hillary's and all other elected officials taxes also. Especially Hillary's. Ask and ye shall recieve. (Britman posted a link for you)  |
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