Forcing Girls To Share A Bathroom With A Gender Confused Boy

[Robert]

I find this horrific, that privacy of a few is allowed to triumph over the many but I have a solution. How about until you cut off the male parts or female parts and go through surgery that you use your God given equipment in the appropriate bathroom 

 If you are really making a change then commit to it and then ask for acceptance. 

http://themattwalshblog.com/2015/09/02/forcing-girls-to-share-a-bathroom-with-a-gender-confused-boy-is-abuse/

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/02/us/teenagers-protest-a-transgender-students-use-of-the-girls-bathroom.html

In this situation, a 17 year old boy decided he was actually a girl, and thus should be entitled to use the girls’ locker room and bathroom. The school bent over backwards trying to find a compromise, even offering the guy a private, unisex facility, but that wasn’t good enough. He wanted the girls’ bathroom, and of course, what the girls wanted was entirely irrelevant.

Encouragingly, some of the students in the school didn’t stand for it. They protested this week, insisting it’s not fair to expect girls to use the bathroom or undress around a boy. They’re right, obviously, but it’s worse than that. Let’s be clear: it is ABUSIVE to coerce, intimidate, or otherwise force young girls to share their facilities with a boy. I don’t care if he’s gender confused or not. I don’t care if he wears a wig or not. All I care about, all that matters, all that make a difference, is that he is a boy with boy parts, a boy’s body, a boy’s genetic makeup, a boy’s brain, a boy’s everything. He’s a boy. That’s all. That’s it. That’s the whole story.

[hubcapsc]

Whether they self-mutilate or not, boys shouldn't be going into the girls
bathroom.

Besides, I've gone into the wrong bathroom a couple of times by mistake - it's terrifying!

-Mike "hmmm... what are those things?... HOLY CRAP!!!!!"

[KY,Dave (AKA Misunderstood)]

Whether they self-mutilate or not, boys shouldn't be going into the girls
bathroom.

Besides, I've gone into the wrong bathroom a couple of times by mistake - it's terrifying!

-Mike "hmmm... what are those things?... HOLY CRAP!!!!!"

 

[fudgie]

Can you imagine a cross gendered girl/guy going into a male bathroom of a bar? They would not fair well. At least there are stalls in a girls bathroom.

Ive shared many restrooms with females in my biking yrs. Turned out fine. 

[Patrick]

When I was a youngster I was confused about most things [ still am] but would have enjoyed being able to use the girls restroom !   

[Varmintmist]

Ive shared many restrooms with females in my biking yrs. Turned out fine. 

Mutual consent, not forced coercion.  Did they share a shower because they were forced to by a govt agency?

[Valkorado]

Ive shared many restrooms with females in my biking yrs. Turned out fine.  

Mutual consent, not forced coercion.  Did they share a shower because they were forced to by a govt agency?

Seems some misguided people believe the creator made mistakes, and they know better.   With encouragement from misguided lawmakers, of course.

[John Schmidt]

Personally, I think the kid might be playing games just so he can get some free looks. I agree, if he hasn't whacked the tally whacker then buddy you go where they pee standing up. End of discussion.

Re. the separation of the sexes....in high school a couple of miscreants turned a couple bats loose in the girls dressing room at the end of their gym class(no names please). The rest of the baskeball team sat outside the doors.... some with cameras. Came streaming out like ants in an anthill. Such screaming and yelling like you've never heard, I'm here to tell you....some of those gals could really run. Probably due to fewer clothes bogging them down. High school was fun back then.  

PS: I didn't have a camera!  

[old2soon]

My first question is-is there such a thing as "gender confusion"? And even IF there is such a thing-I believe the confused person does not need to be put in with the females. From every level from the school board to city-county-state-feds-are WRONG forcing the females to share with the confused?? person. I also DO NOT care what jenner had done-still a male. This "confused person" has penis removed boobs built and what ever else retooled-STILL a male. This "politically correct bullshit" has gone/is going entirely to far. If any of my girls were still in school and it was happening in the school they attend-my immediate and unrelenting MISSION would be to get every son of a bitch  that THOUGHT this is a good idea fired and make SURE they never again are in a position to debate as to what's "BEST" for children going to ANY school. The term-goin to hell in a hand basket-comes to mind!  RIDE SAFE.

[Willow]

The problem originates with some complete moron deciding that gender is determined by something other than original physical equipment and then a large portion of the culture nodding their heads and saying, "Yes, that must be right."  Once you, as a group, start down a stupid path stupid things are going to happen and a lot of people will be saying, "Yes, that makes perfect sense."  I'm not entirely convinced that you can't fix stupid, but I am quite sure once you accept it you're in for a whole lot more stupidity.

Incidentally, Robert, if you're going to cut and paste or copy word for word parts of a published article you should either not include the link or acknowledge the quote.   

[Stanley Steamer]

I think I'm a ......not a thespian

[Bighead]

I say put him in a room with 3-4 attractive almost naked call girls and see what his Johnson does that will tell if he is confuse or just wanting to see some skin

[Momz]

Lets put the record straight,.....there is a real diagnosis of GENDER CONFUSION.

I have that malady,.....I am a LESBIAN trapped in a mans body. I can't help it, I've been this way all of my life. I have come out and declared my GENDER CONFUSION, but I still am not allowed to use the womens public restrooms. Now how fair is that?

Please world,.....let me have my way!!!!!

[Jess from VA]

If the teachers/admins are so worried about it, they should let him use THEIR bathroom (or the janitor's in the basement/utility closet) (or give him a hall pass to go home) (or a supply of depends).

[Lyn-Del]

They're fighting the HERO (Houston Equal Rights Ordinance) ordinance in Houston, which originally stated (among other things) that a person may use whichever restroom or lockerroom as suits his or her "gender identity".   "[T]he City of Houston seeks to provide an environment that is free of any type of discrimination based on sex, race, color, ethnicity, national origin, age, familial status, marital status, military status, religion, disability, sexual orientation, genetic information, gender identity, or pregnancy."

OK, the ordinance has been suspended for several reasons, and the restroom clause was removed earlier but it's the part that sticks in the mind.  It now comes up for a vote on the next ballot, and even that required court intervention-- as the city wrote it for the ballot, a vote NO meant the ordinance would go into effect, and a vote YES was a vote to stop the ordinance.  Courts intervened, now YES means keep the ordinance, and NO is get rid of it.

Meanwhile, the radio ads against it are intriguing.  A young woman says she hopes to be pregnant one day and to have that baby in Houston.  But a MAN in a restroom with a pregnant woman is dirty, etc. 

With the restroom clause removed, it seems like a decent proposal.  It prohibits discrimination against someone in the military (sad that needs to be addressed, isn't it?),

[BF]

Before you know it, the Feds will mandate that all schools and government buildings have a half dozen restrooms built into them so they can accommodate all of the different groups and subgroups to suit the needs of every wacko out there that demands their rights be met.

[Hooter]

If this is the case whats to stop some boy or girl from being confused for a week or so, dressing the part and going to the opposite side of the locker rooms / bathrooms? Then on a Monday down the road waking up and "well-ah" I'm a boy or girl again. Phew, that was close, I was confused but I'm back now. 

[G-Man]

The problem originates with some complete moron deciding that gender is determined by something other than original physical equipment and then a large portion of the culture nodding their heads and saying, "Yes, that must be right."  Once you, as a group, start down a stupid path stupid things are going to happen and a lot of people will be saying, "Yes, that makes perfect sense."  I'm not entirely convinced that you can't fix stupid, but I am quite sure once you accept it you're in for a whole lot more stupidity.

This topic caused a ruckus in our house.  The liberal brainwashed daughter thinks it should be just fine for a man who says he thinks he's a woman to use the ladies room.  I almost lost it.  I kept saying over and over again, JUST BECAUSE HE SAYS HE THINKS HE'S A WOMAN??? and she kept saying yes or nodding in the affirmative.  I couldn't believe my ears and I was actually getting very angry.  I calmed myself down and then I simply asked, "Would you let your 12 year old daughter go into a bathroom that you just saw a 45 year old man go into that SAYS he THINKS he's a woman?"  No answer. 

[Psychotic Bovine]

I have an acqaintance who's daughter knows this person.  This dumba$$ is a crossdresser, he is not "trans" or whatever.  Very much into raising a stink to get attention.  Up to recently he had a girlfriend, but broke up with her because it would hurt his "cause".  My solution is simple:  Let him go into the girls changing room.  Then, if one child sees him naked, or he sees one child naked, arrest him and put him on the sexual offender registry.  End of the problem.

[Serk]

The problem originates with some complete moron deciding that gender is determined by something other than original physical equipment and then a large portion of the culture nodding their heads and saying, "Yes, that must be right."  Once you, as a group, start down a stupid path stupid things are going to happen and a lot of people will be saying, "Yes, that makes perfect sense."  I'm not entirely convinced that you can't fix stupid, but I am quite sure once you accept it you're in for a whole lot more stupidity.

This topic caused a ruckus in our house.  The liberal brainwashed daughter thinks it should be just fine for a man who says he thinks he's a woman to use the ladies room.  I almost lost it.  I kept saying over and over again, JUST BECAUSE HE SAYS HE THINKS HE'S A WOMAN??? and she kept saying yes or nodding in the affirmative.  I couldn't believe my ears and I was actually getting very angry.  I calmed myself down and then I simply asked, "Would you let your 12 year old daughter go into a bathroom that you just saw a 45 year old man go into that SAYS he THINKS he's a woman?"  No answer. 

Should someone who "feels" black be eligible for affirmative action assistance?
The possibilities to turn this argument right back on the leftists are limitless...

[Jess from VA]

Girls blanket party.  

[The emperor has no clothes]

The problem originates with some complete moron deciding that gender is determined by something other than original physical equipment and then a large portion of the culture nodding their heads and saying, "Yes, that must be right."  Once you, as a group, start down a stupid path stupid things are going to happen and a lot of people will be saying, "Yes, that makes perfect sense."  I'm not entirely convinced that you can't fix stupid, but I am quite sure once you accept it you're in for a whole lot more stupidity.

This topic caused a ruckus in our house.  The liberal brainwashed daughter thinks it should be just fine for a man who says he thinks he's a woman to use the ladies room.  I almost lost it.  I kept saying over and over again, JUST BECAUSE HE SAYS HE THINKS HE'S A WOMAN??? and she kept saying yes or nodding in the affirmative.  I couldn't believe my ears and I was actually getting very angry.  I calmed myself down and then I simply asked, "Would you let your 12 year old daughter go into a bathroom that you just saw a 45 year old man go into that SAYS he THINKS he's a woman?"  No answer. 

Should someone who "feels" black be eligible for affirmative action assistance?
The possibilities to turn this argument right back on the leftists are limitless...

The Leftists ?

[Hooter]

I have an acqaintance who's daughter knows this person.  This dumba$$ is a crossdresser, he is not "trans" or whatever.  Very much into raising a stink to get attention.  Up to recently he had a girlfriend, but broke up with her because it would hurt his "cause".  My solution is simple:  Let him go into the girls changing room.  Then, if one child sees him naked, or he sees one child naked, arrest him and put him on the sexual offender registry.  End of the problem.

He is mixed up, remember....kinda like the person that needs time to "find themselves". Maybe should go live with Bruce (Caitlan -sp?) Jenner?

[hubcapsc]

The problem originates with some complete moron deciding that gender is determined by something other than original physical equipment and then a large portion of the culture nodding their heads and saying, "Yes, that must be right."  Once you, as a group, start down a stupid path stupid things are going to happen and a lot of people will be saying, "Yes, that makes perfect sense."  I'm not entirely convinced that you can't fix stupid, but I am quite sure once you accept it you're in for a whole lot more stupidity.

This topic caused a ruckus in our house.  The liberal brainwashed daughter thinks it should be just fine for a man who says he thinks he's a woman to use the ladies room.  I almost lost it.  I kept saying over and over again, JUST BECAUSE HE SAYS HE THINKS HE'S A WOMAN??? and she kept saying yes or nodding in the affirmative.  I couldn't believe my ears and I was actually getting very angry.  I calmed myself down and then I simply asked, "Would you let your 12 year old daughter go into a bathroom that you just saw a 45 year old man go into that SAYS he THINKS he's a woman?"  No answer. 

Should someone who "feels" black be eligible for affirmative action assistance?
The possibilities to turn this argument right back on the leftists are limitless...

The Leftists ?

Are you thinking maybe it is Michele Bachmann's PAC  that's pushing this? 

-Mike

[czuch]

My Daughter went to gender neutral co-ed Kenpo.
Then I taught her some advanced technique.
Then I taught her the most important thing, smile, nod, back away, then run screaming.
Depraved degradiation. Rome took 2000 years. I say we can beat that.

[The emperor has no clothes]

The problem originates with some complete moron deciding that gender is determined by something other than original physical equipment and then a large portion of the culture nodding their heads and saying, "Yes, that must be right."  Once you, as a group, start down a stupid path stupid things are going to happen and a lot of people will be saying, "Yes, that makes perfect sense."  I'm not entirely convinced that you can't fix stupid, but I am quite sure once you accept it you're in for a whole lot more stupidity.

This topic caused a ruckus in our house.  The liberal brainwashed daughter thinks it should be just fine for a man who says he thinks he's a woman to use the ladies room.  I almost lost it.  I kept saying over and over again, JUST BECAUSE HE SAYS HE THINKS HE'S A WOMAN??? and she kept saying yes or nodding in the affirmative.  I couldn't believe my ears and I was actually getting very angry.  I calmed myself down and then I simply asked, "Would you let your 12 year old daughter go into a bathroom that you just saw a 45 year old man go into that SAYS he THINKS he's a woman?"  No answer. 

Should someone who "feels" black be eligible for affirmative action assistance?
The possibilities to turn this argument right back on the leftists are limitless...

The Leftists ?

Are you thinking maybe it is Michele Bachmann's PAC  that's pushing this? 

-Mike

yeah that's probably it.

[Serk]

The Leftists ?

In the eternal struggle between left and right, I find over and over again that the deciding factor distinguishing between them is that leftists use "feelings" vs those on the right use "facts".

And this case is a perfect example of holding up that someone "feels" like a woman vs. the "fact" that they have a penis. So yeah... the leftists tend to be those who push things like allowing a male who "feels" like a female  to shower with actual girls.

[Jess from VA]

Excellent point, and one to remember.

Feelings vs facts.


Dogma vs actual experience, and plain common sense.

[art]

Lets put the record straight,.....there is a real diagnosis of GENDER CONFUSION.

I have that malady,.....I am a LESBIAN trapped in a mans body. I can't help it, I've been this way all of my life. I have come out and declared my GENDER CONFUSION, but I still am not allowed to use the womens public restrooms. Now how fair is that?

Please world,.....let me have my way!!!!!

Do you qualify for a handicap card?

[Lyn-Del]

Women/girls are generally raised to have much more modesty than men.  So we don't want men in our dressing/rest rooms.  Heck, we don't want other WOMEN watching us ....

This carries over into the transgender world, or at least the few I personally know.  The MTF (Male to Female) are open about it; the FTM (Female to Male) transgenders that I know generally live in terror of being found out. 

The FTM look at the beatings delivered to gays, and know that if they are found out, they'll get much worse. 

I had a good friend who was FTM, and he said he knew from the time he was about 5 he wasn't really a girl.  His family basically disowned him when he made the change.  Another FTM acquaintance made the decision to make the change after (s)he left the Marine Corps.   It involved cutting off relationships with almost all friends.

The decisions aren't made lightly, the surgeries aren't cheap, they aren't reversible.  The hormones, well, my friend had quit taking the hormones sometime before we met, his beard wasn't thick but he had one.  The acquaintance continued the hormones, and last time I saw him, he had a very thick beard.  And no (because I'm sure someone will ask), as of the time I knew them, neither had had a penis attached.  And neither planned to.  If they did, it wouldn't look right, feel right, or work at all.  I believe a pump device of some kind would have make an erection possible, but from what they told me, I'm not sure there would be enough feeling to make it worthwhile.

So, yeah, I understand both sides of the problem to some degree.

My feelings?  I figure God made them, straights, gays, and transgenders, and since I can't believe that HE makes mistakes, nor can I believe that HE makes junk,   I have to believe that there's a purpose, and it's not mine to know.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Women/girls are generally raised to have much more modesty than men.  So we don't want men in our dressing/rest rooms.  Heck, we don't want other WOMEN watching us ....

This carries over into the transgender world, or at least the few I personally know.  The MTF (Male to Female) are open about it; the FTM (Female to Male) transgenders that I know generally live in terror of being found out. 

The FTM look at the beatings delivered to gays, and know that if they are found out, they'll get much worse. 

I had a good friend who was FTM, and he said he knew from the time he was about 5 he wasn't really a girl.  His family basically disowned him when he made the change.  Another FTM acquaintance made the decision to make the change after (s)he left the Marine Corps.   It involved cutting off relationships with almost all friends.

The decisions aren't made lightly, the surgeries aren't cheap, they aren't reversible.  The hormones, well, my friend had quit taking the hormones sometime before we met, his beard wasn't thick but he had one.  The acquaintance continued the hormones, and last time I saw him, he had a very thick beard.  And no (because I'm sure someone will ask), as of the time I knew them, neither had had a penis attached.  And neither planned to.  If they did, it wouldn't look right, feel right, or work at all.  I believe a pump device of some kind would have make an erection possible, but from what they told me, I'm not sure there would be enough feeling to make it worthwhile.

So, yeah, I understand both sides of the problem to some degree.

My feelings?  I figure God made them, straights, gays, and transgenders, and since I can't believe that HE makes mistakes, nor can I believe that HE makes junk,   I have to believe that there's a purpose, and it's not mine to know.

Very thoughtful post  I have little understanding of the situation. But I agree with you , they are God`s children.

[Valker]

Women/girls are generally raised to have much more modesty than men.  So we don't want men in our dressing/rest rooms.  Heck, we don't want other WOMEN watching us ....

This carries over into the transgender world, or at least the few I personally know.  The MTF (Male to Female) are open about it; the FTM (Female to Male) transgenders that I know generally live in terror of being found out. 

The FTM look at the beatings delivered to gays, and know that if they are found out, they'll get much worse. 

I had a good friend who was FTM, and he said he knew from the time he was about 5 he wasn't really a girl.  His family basically disowned him when he made the change.  Another FTM acquaintance made the decision to make the change after (s)he left the Marine Corps.   It involved cutting off relationships with almost all friends.

The decisions aren't made lightly, the surgeries aren't cheap, they aren't reversible.  The hormones, well, my friend had quit taking the hormones sometime before we met, his beard wasn't thick but he had one.  The acquaintance continued the hormones, and last time I saw him, he had a very thick beard.  And no (because I'm sure someone will ask), as of the time I knew them, neither had had a penis attached.  And neither planned to.  If they did, it wouldn't look right, feel right, or work at all.  I believe a pump device of some kind would have make an erection possible, but from what they told me, I'm not sure there would be enough feeling to make it worthwhile.

So, yeah, I understand both sides of the problem to some degree.

My feelings?  I figure God made them, straights, gays, and transgenders, and since I can't believe that HE makes mistakes, nor can I believe that HE makes junk,   I have to believe that there's a purpose, and it's not mine to know.

[The emperor has no clothes]

The Leftists ?

In the eternal struggle between left and right, I find over and over again that the deciding factor distinguishing between them is that leftists use "feelings" vs those on the right use "facts".

And this case is a perfect example of holding up that someone "feels" like a woman vs. the "fact" that they have a penis. So yeah... the leftists tend to be those who push things like allowing a male who "feels" like a female  to shower with actual girls.

When I hear the term "leftists" I think of people like the Sandanistas. I guess your use of the term is anyone left of you who doesn't use facts. I'm sure I am left of you but I in no way support this sort of gender warping (for lack of a better term). I've also noticed there are plenty to the "right" of me who have little use for the facts. In reality there are probably people of all political persuasions who think only they use facts and the others are basing their views on feelings. I doubt this wholesale discounting of the other side of the aisle is helpful in solving OUR  country's problems.   

[fudgie]

Women/girls are generally raised to have much more modesty than men.  So we don't want men in our dressing/rest rooms.  Heck, we don't want other WOMEN watching us ....

This carries over into the transgender world, or at least the few I personally know.  The MTF (Male to Female) are open about it; the FTM (Female to Male) transgenders that I know generally live in terror of being found out. 

The FTM look at the beatings delivered to gays, and know that if they are found out, they'll get much worse. 

I had a good friend who was FTM, and he said he knew from the time he was about 5 he wasn't really a girl.  His family basically disowned him when he made the change.  Another FTM acquaintance made the decision to make the change after (s)he left the Marine Corps.   It involved cutting off relationships with almost all friends.

The decisions aren't made lightly, the surgeries aren't cheap, they aren't reversible.  The hormones, well, my friend had quit taking the hormones sometime before we met, his beard wasn't thick but he had one.  The acquaintance continued the hormones, and last time I saw him, he had a very thick beard.  And no (because I'm sure someone will ask), as of the time I knew them, neither had had a penis attached.  And neither planned to.  If they did, it wouldn't look right, feel right, or work at all.  I believe a pump device of some kind would have make an erection possible, but from what they told me, I'm not sure there would be enough feeling to make it worthwhile.

So, yeah, I understand both sides of the problem to some degree.

My feelings?  I figure God made them, straights, gays, and transgenders, and since I can't believe that HE makes mistakes, nor can I believe that HE makes junk,   I have to believe that there's a purpose, and it's not mine to know.

Very nice post. 

[Wizzard]

Whenever I hear about "left" and "right" I always think about that old song from Johnny Cash
https://youtu.be/aDSN1F72QU4

[Kep]

My feelings?  I figure God made them, straights, gays, and transgenders, and since I can't believe that HE makes mistakes, nor can I believe that HE makes junk,   I have to believe that there's a purpose, and it's not mine to know.

There's a saying that I like to live by ..it says "It's not what you're dealt in life..It's how you deal with what you're dealt in life"
I have strong Christian beliefs , tho I'm not perfect at it by any means , I try my best every day of my life to treat others that way. There are challenges around us all the time ,whether it be other peoples beliefs , their actions , deaths , accidents , crimes , insults , etc..etc..etc... We don't always know why these things happen or why people make descicions that they do , but we are just here on the great planet together to see how well we can get along and handle these challenges.We have been given the freedom to do so and when we are forced to do so , that destroys this plan.I don't always handle some of these situations the best myself , but I generally try to think of others first , that usuallty seems to get the best results. I'm not saying I agree with everything that people choose in life , because there are definitely alot of things in this world that I strongly disaggree with (too many to start listing) and many of them that have just been happening in the last 10-20 years..but I am tired of hearing that since I don't agree with something , that I am a hater..I have worked and interacted with people from all walks of life , while I don't always agree with their lifestyle or choices , I still love people.

[G-Man]

The problem originates with some complete moron deciding that gender is determined by something other than original physical equipment and then a large portion of the culture nodding their heads and saying, "Yes, that must be right."  Once you, as a group, start down a stupid path stupid things are going to happen and a lot of people will be saying, "Yes, that makes perfect sense."  I'm not entirely convinced that you can't fix stupid, but I am quite sure once you accept it you're in for a whole lot more stupidity.

This topic caused a ruckus in our house.  The liberal brainwashed daughter thinks it should be just fine for a man who says he thinks he's a woman to use the ladies room.  I almost lost it.  I kept saying over and over again, JUST BECAUSE HE SAYS HE THINKS HE'S A WOMAN??? and she kept saying yes or nodding in the affirmative.  I couldn't believe my ears and I was actually getting very angry.  I calmed myself down and then I simply asked, "Would you let your 12 year old daughter go into a bathroom that you just saw a 45 year old man go into that SAYS he THINKS he's a woman?"  No answer. 

Should someone who "feels" black be eligible for affirmative action assistance?
The possibilities to turn this argument right back on the leftists are limitless...

Ask Elizabeth Warren why she checked the Native American box.  Was it to gain an advantage given to American Indians when it comes to taxes, admissions, etc., or was it because she feels like a Native American.

Come to think of it, all of my Grandparents were born in the U.S. which makes me 3rd genteration  American.  I don't claim allegiance to another or hyphenate my heritage.  I emphatically feel/believe that I AM A NATIVE AMERICAN.  Now where's that damn box to check???

[Robert]

What if God made them but circumstances made them who they are? We have choices in life. Acceptance of a person does not mean acceptance of a lifestyle. Not accepting a lifestyle does not mean not accepting the person. There is no acceptance of homosexuality in the Bible and reasoning in a nice sentance is deception.

  I Love the compassionate post from Lyn-del that tugs at your heart to look beyond the gay lifestyle of some to see the person. Because surely there are some that want a decent life and to live happily. I know some hate them just because they are gay, which is terrible.

  But in fact we are not talking of one person but of forced acceptance of values under questionable circumstance at the point of everyone's privacy being violated which is pretty disgusting. The fact that we are talking about 1 percent of the population writing laws for the other 99 percent that have been court ordered is forced acceptance.

 That the current changed law endorses appalling sexual behavior that society finds so violating is not shunned by the gay movement but even endorsed, funded and legislated shows the true nature.

The displays of  sexual behavior and legislation of behavior that is at best questionable while putting forward a few who sincerely want to live a quiet peaceful life is the intent of propaganda. This is what the gay agenda is best at. So how can trust, acceptance, in society grow at the barrel of a gun or is this just the way its supposed to be?

 

[Serk]

For me, if a man "feels" like a woman and wants to dress like one, act like one, heck even pay (With their own money) for surgery to cosmetically look like one, that's fine, it's their body, their life, do what you want.

But when a man puts on  dress and tries to get in the female locker room, I have a problem.

When a man says he's a woman, then joins MMA as a woman and beats up real women (The irony that a man can say he's a woman, be accepted into MMA and be allowed to beat up real women, and be held up as an icon of feminism is almost painful)

That's where I start having a problem. If we want to erase gender lines, fine, do it, get rid of boy's sports and girl's sports and have everyone compete against each other if that's what we want. But as long as there's a division between the two, a dude who feels like a woman shouldn't be beating up on women (And vice versa for that matter)

But maybe I'm just old fashioned.

[Valkorado]

If we want to erase gender lines, fine, do it,

Impossible.  Even a surgeon's scalpel can't do this.