valkyrieforum on tapatalk....

[moodyvalk]

Hey Admins,

can we see about registering the "valkyrieforum.com" on to Tapatalk????

It would make it so much easier to view and post to the forum with my phone, most my pics I add to my threads is off my phone anyways, got an upcoming build with lots of pics...

Every other forum i am a member of is on Tapatalk and would be great to get the valkyrieforum on there too....

Thanks in advance!!!!!

anyone else that would like to see the valkyrie forum viewable in a more mobile format please chime in...the tapatalk app is free

[Serk]

In the past when this was requested the admins have declined on the basis of lost ad revenue from not getting pass through banner ad impressions from the Tapatalk app...

[CamelToeJoe]

Tapatalk is great.   Even a mobile site would be great.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Oh God, its taken me 3 days to post a freaking pic of my seat ! Now you are talking about switching to something called tapioca. Do you want to see an old, fat, bald guy start crying like a baby ? 

[moodyvalk]

It's way easier to post pics which probably 95% of us take the pics with our phones...

It's 2015, it's about time for us to get with the times 

Heck there is even a goldwing forum on tapatalk, I think the valkyrie deserves it....

[moodyvalk]

Oh God, its taken me 3 days to post a freaking pic of my seat ! Now you are talking about switching to something called tapioca. Do you want to see an old, fat, bald guy start crying like a baby ? 

It won't change the forum as you use it and see it on a normal computer, if you have the tapatalk app downloaded on you iPhone or Android mobile phone then it allows a mobile friendly way to veiw and post onto the forum.

It works great when I'm traveling and away from home...

[BF]

Tapatalk is great.   Even a mobile site would be great.

Short version.......it's been discussed before and ain't gonna happen.  This is a shoe string operation....just be glad that it's here.

I can view it just fine on my phone and tablet as most others can too.

Besides.....we're mostly a bunch of old fat guys that are slow tech adapters that can barely use a cell phone let alone post pics.  

[CamelToeJoe]

What is this budget you speak of?

I am sure many of us would pony up some cash to cover costs.  That way it won't be so stressful  to run the board underfunded.  Just post up a detailed budget and I am sure we can all come together to pitch in and help.

Let us know.

[moodyvalk]

Tapatalk is great.   Even a mobile site would be great.

Short version.......it's been discussed before and ain't gonna happen.  This is a shoe string operation....just be glad that it's here.

I can view it just fine on my phone and tablet as most others can too.

Besides.....we're mostly a bunch of old fat guys that are slow tech adapters that can barely use a cell phone let alone post pics.  

It's ok to be old and fat, no body is judging here. And it there is absolutely nothing wrong with being slow tech adapters.  I think everyone one is quick to jump the gun,  this will not effect anyone except the guys that would like to use it.  So that's where I find it odd that anyone would be against it.  All it does is help the selected few that choose to use there phone to view the forum.

Again, if you don't know what tapatalk is and/or don't want to know what tapatalk is then registering the forum to tapatalk will not affect you in any way, shape, or form.  It will only make it convenient for those that do. Absolutely no reason to debate whether we should or shouldn't.  

[CamelToeJoe]

Agreed

[Jess from VA]

My question is if the VRCC was registered with this Tapatalk, would that cause VRCC to come up on a list-index of subscribers on the App that (non riding) people might use to just drop in (join) and post away (or troll)?  Could it lead to unwanted attention?

[BF]

My question is if the VRCC was registered with this Tapatalk, would that cause VRCC to come up on a list-index of subscribers on the App that (non riding) people might use to just drop in (join) and post away (or troll)?  Could it lead to unwanted attention?

We already had that from Google.

If the admin want to talk n tap, great , but perhaps you didn't read the part about it being brought up before an ain't gonna happen.

That was the response before.

[CamelToeJoe]

Not really..that's a quick fix... find the troll.  Peruse IP logs and ban them   few clicks of the mouse.   I say the more the merrier.  I have never seen a board get unwanted attention from Tapatalk.   You download the app and log in your accounts.   During set up it might ask you your interests.  

You can search for forums you are interested in easily.  It keeps track of posts, pictures,  friends.  You can post pictures with it etc.

It's 100 percent legit.  I use it for every forum I am on.  If the loss of revenue  from tapatalk is an issue and we are dealing with technical slow people.  Then the argument is, tapatalk is for phones... how many technical slow ppl will click an ad on their phone!!!!!!

The argument makes 0 validation  on revenue.  Most old digitally inept ppl will be on a laptop or desktop when they click on an ad, let alone buy something on their phone.

If you are worried about revenue, publish the budget and hAve a drive to raise money.  But worrying about revenue loss through tapatalk is absurd.  If anything I would want a board user friendly with more members so I could  charge higher ad rates and attract more vendors.

But what do I know.....

[t-man403]

Tapatalk is great.   Even a mobile site would be great.

Short version.......it's been discussed before and ain't gonna happen.  This is a shoe string operation....just be glad that it's here.

I can view it just fine on my phone and tablet as most others can too.

Besides.....we're mostly a bunch of old fat guys that are slow tech adapters that can barely use a cell phone let alone post pics.  

It's ok to be old and fat, no body is judging here. And it there is absolutely nothing wrong with being slow tech adapters.  I think everyone one is quick to jump the gun,  this will not effect anyone except the guys that would like to use it.  So that's where I find it odd that anyone would be against it.  All it does is help the selected few that choose to use there phone to view the forum.

Again, if you don't know what tapatalk is and/or don't want to know what tapatalk is then registering the forum to tapatalk will not affect you in any way, shape, or form.  It will only make it convenient for those that do. Absolutely no reason to debate whether we should or shouldn't.  

Read this through to the end .... http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,25430.msg387272.html#msg387272   

[The emperor has no clothes]

Tapatalk is great.   Even a mobile site would be great.

Short version.......it's been discussed before and ain't gonna happen.  This is a shoe string operation....just be glad that it's here.

I can view it just fine on my phone and tablet as most others can too.

Besides.....we're mostly a bunch of old fat guys that are slow tech adapters that can barely use a cell phone let alone post pics.  

It's ok to be old and fat, no body is judging here. And it there is absolutely nothing wrong with being slow tech adapters.  I think everyone one is quick to jump the gun,  this will not effect anyone except the guys that would like to use it.  So that's where I find it odd that anyone would be against it.  All it does is help the selected few that choose to use there phone to view the forum.

Again, if you don't know what tapatalk is and/or don't want to know what tapatalk is then registering the forum to tapatalk will not affect you in any way, shape, or form.  It will only make it convenient for those that do. Absolutely no reason to debate whether we should or shouldn't.  

Read this through to the end .... http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,25430.msg387272.html#msg387272   

Everytime I come across an old thread with one of our deceased buddies in it, it feels weird . RIP Donald 

[Jopson]

I only ever use my phone to access the forum and to post pics and I find that it works perfectly fine as is.
I have the photobucket app on my phone so when I take a picture it automatically uploads to photobucket, from there I can just copy and paste the link onto the VRCC forum which I have saved as a tab on my home screen. It's nearly quicker to upload photos here as it is to Facebook. 
Like this one of my daughter and some guys Lamborghini!

[moodyvalk]

I never said it couldn't be done as is on a phone, I'm using my phone to type this reply.  It would be nice to have the valkyrie forum just a click away from the 8 other forums that I'm a member of. 

Seriously I didnt mean to poke at anyone's soft skin. I understand no one likes changes, which ironically tapatalk wouldn't change anything change anything for anyone that didn't use it. Which again I don't have a clue why it would be a problem, regardless of past treads about joining tapatalk.  There is absolutely no reason to argue about such a petty thing, it almost assuming to see the responses this has stirred up, but then again it's almost more of an annoyance. 

[Alien]

My question is if the VRCC was registered with this Tapatalk, would that cause VRCC to come up on a list-index of subscribers on the App that (non riding) people might use to just drop in (join) and post away (or troll)?  Could it lead to unwanted attention?

It's much better when the trolls are registered members.   

[CamelToeJoe]

So anyway let us know the budget so we can have a fund raiser to help out the shoe string budget.  It would be nice to make the board more user friendly instead of the mantra

"That's just the way it is"
"Be glad you have a board"

Not inviting change sounds like things are too comfortable.

And heck we can even do a comparison, just show us the click through before Tapatalk and the click throughs after.  But to say you aren't doing something "just cause" with no proof to back it up doesn't quiet add up.

[moodyvalk]

So anyway let us know the budget so we can have a fund raiser to help out the shoe string budget.  It would be nice to make the board more user friendly instead of the mantra

"That's just the way it is"
"Be glad you have a board"

Not inviting change sounds like things are too comfortable.

And heck we can even do a comparison, just show us the click through before Tapatalk and the click throughs after.  But to say you aren't doing something "just cause" with no proof to back it up doesn't quiet add up.

Preach it! What he said ^^^^^^^^^^   

[dreamchaser]

The admin that has put soul and breath into this  board from the dawn of it are due the respect that final say without an argument gives.  They ARE the driving force that gives us a place to gather elec- tronicly.... nuf said from me.

[Mr Whiskey]

...but have fun!

[Disco]

Full Disclosure: I've never downloaded or used Tapatalk.

That said, the native browser on my S4 ALWAYS has the Texas Board, General Board, Tech Board, Classifieds, Personal Messages, and Drudge tabs open.  At the same time, the Chrome browser may have as many as 20 other various tabs open, including ADVRider.  Tapatalk might be great, but I certainly don't feel like I'm unable to see or do whatever I want (and do so quickly) on my phone. 

[Robert]

Boost mobile visits and posts to your forum by 25-60%

 

Oh yea that's going to happen.

   Can you say, moderator, not an enviable position when some already have their hands full.

Seems to me that knowing how to operate your digital device and using it to its fullest is more tech advanced than throwing an app to do something most devices already do. Maybe the problem is not the lack of Taptalk but the size of your device.    I have no problem, with the forum on my phone, but my next may be the 6 plus.

Mr. Whiskey good one  

[CamelToeJoe]

Typical, we don't know or understand it, let's make fun of it and call it names.  Let's ridicule the unknown and stick to status quo.   

I wonder how the wheel was ever invented or fire was ever used to cook food sometimes.

We have always carried things! Me arms strong, wheel look funny,  no likey.

[Wizzard]

My phone operates this forum fine also,, but that does not mean there is not something better. If there is its called progress.

[Dave Ritsema]

The good part of being a free site is that as an admin you do not charge anything for this site, so you owe nothing to anyone. (i.e. having to meet the "customers" expectations). For me, this situation was important. When someone starts paying for a service their demands and expectations tend to increase exponentially. Unless sufficient income can be raised that one could make this board a full time gig I would anticipate that maintaining this boards existence, rather than upgrading to accommodate new technologies will be the priority. It works, its free, enjoy it as best you can.  

The bad part of being a free site is that you are only able to perform admin tasks when you can, as it is not the job that is putting food on the table. It is also a largely unappreciated task that they are truly doing for the good of the membership and their love for the Valkyrie.

Upgrades that may make ones life slightly more convenient  that require significant effort  vs. keeping the site up and running in it's current state is not a situation of " too much comfort" as it is  a group of folks simply doing the best they can. Having a paid membership status has been a topic on this board for over 10 years on and off and it always comes back to the preference of remaining a free club.

I guess I am one of those low tech old fat guys that thinks if it's working, it's good enough for me.  

[The emperor has no clothes]

The good part of being a free site is that as an admin you do not charge anything for this site, so you owe nothing to anyone. (i.e. having to meet the "customers" expectations). For me, this situation was important. When someone starts paying for a service their demands and expectations tend to increase exponentially. Unless sufficient income can be raised that one could make this board a full time gig I would anticipate that maintaining this boards existence, rather than upgrading to accommodate new technologies will be the priority. It works, its free, enjoy it as best you can.  

The bad part of being a free site is that you are only able to perform admin tasks when you can, as it is not the job that is putting food on the table. It is also a largely unappreciated task that they are truly doing for the good of the membership and their love for the Valkyrie.

Upgrades that may make ones life slightly more convenient  that require significant effort  vs. keeping the site up and running in it's current state is not a situation of " too much comfort" as it is  a group of folks simply doing the best they can. Having a paid membership status has been a topic on this board for over 10 years on and off and it always comes back to the preference of remaining a free club.

I guess I am one of those low tech old fat guys that thinks if it's working, it's good enough for me.  

With that said. I would like to say how much I appreciate them keeping this going. I have no idea what it takes, but I do know its way beyond my capabilities. (Most everything is)  I know they get a lot of grief from all sides about all kinds of stuff. YOU GUYS AND GALS ARE APPRECIATED IMMENSELY 

[Wizzard]

I ran a forum for 6 years with about 500 members and it was hell. Never again. 

[Serk]

I ran a forum for 6 years with about 500 members and it was hell. Never again. 

Been there, done that, my therapist says we're making great progress and I should be fully cured in just a few more boat payments...

[Chillerman]

Tried.  Failed.  We are destined to be in the dark ages. http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,37683.0.html

[Chillerman]

Tried.  Failed.  We are destined to be in the dark ages. http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,37683.0.html

Personally, I think there should be a membership fee, say $50 a year.  I am sure the majority of the hard core members would pay it willingly.

[Willow]

Tried.  Failed.  We are destined to be in the dark ages. http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,37683.0.html

Personally, I think there should be a membership fee, say $50 a year.  I am sure the majority of the hard core members would pay it willingly.

That said and all the talk about how sure we are that members would gladly pay, I'll let you in on some info.

Every year for the past several the VRCC has produced and marketed a wall calendar.  It's a form of generating income to help with the small costs of maintaining and operating the VRCC.  For the past couple of years I have encouraged the staff (actually the one of the staff that does it) to include on the order page an option to contribute (I avoid the term donate because the VRCC is not a charity) additionally to the VRCC.  We have a few very generous members who take advantage of the opportunity.  We have about three thousand folks who regularly visit the message boards although the number of active participants is significantly lower.  How many would you guess put their money where there mouth is concerning happily contributing?  Your guess would be high.  Our income from that annual revenue raising exercise tends to be between one third and one sixth of the VRCC's annual expense.  That revenue is including the few who gave extra.

David's explanation is quite accurate.  He would know as he did the job for several years.

That thought in mind, it's October and I need to get a post out so we can have calendars available by November.  Get your Valkyrie photos ready.  I'll give you two weeks when I post.    

[Chillerman]

Tried.  Failed.  We are destined to be in the dark ages. http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,37683.0.html

Personally, I think there should be a membership fee, say $50 a year.  I am sure the majority of the hard core members would pay it willingly.

That said and all the talk about how sure we are that members would gladly pay, I'll let you in on some info.

Every year for the past several the VRCC has produced and marketed a wall calendar.  It's a form of generating income to help with the small costs of maintaining and operating the VRCC.  For the past couple of years I have encouraged the staff (actually the one of the staff that does it) to include on the order page an option to contribute (I avoid the term donate because the VRCC is not a charity) additionally to the VRCC.  We have a few very generous members who take advantage of the opportunity.  We have about three thousand folks who regularly visit the message boards although the number of active participants is significantly lower.  How many would you guess put their money where there mouth is concerning happily contributing?  Your guess would be high.  Our income from that annual revenue raising exercise tends to be between one third and one sixth of the VRCC's annual expense.  That revenue is including the few who gave extra.

David's explanation is quite accurate.  He would know as he did the job for several years.

That thought in mind, it's October and I need to get a post out so we can have calendars available by November.  Get your Valkyrie photos ready.  I'll give you two weeks when I post.    

My point exactly.  Given the option to contribute or not, many or most would not.  I, myself, have purchased two calenders over the years but have not added a contribution.  It would seem a small membership fee would eliminate the need for contributions.  I understand that going from a free site to a paid membership site has its own issues and after reading Dave's post maybe it is not something the current owners would want to deal with.

Just trying to think of ways to keep the board up with the times.

[The emperor has no clothes]

As far as a member fee being a workable alternative. Take a look at the VOAI. You can hear birds singing and crickets chirping over there. I'm not bagging on them, I'm just saying most people would just fade away.

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

Tried.  Failed.  We are destined to be in the dark ages. http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,37683.0.html

Personally, I think there should be a membership fee, say $50 a year.  I am sure the majority of the hard core members would pay it willingly.

Go over to the VOAI ( Valkyrie Owners Association International )  .... That should let you know how a paid site works. You can make a post and a week later its still on page 1 .

[KY,Dave (AKA Misunderstood)]

Tried.  Failed.  We are destined to be in the dark ages. http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,37683.0.html

Personally, I think there should be a membership fee, say $50 a year.  I am sure the majority of the hard core members would pay it willingly.

That said and all the talk about how sure we are that members would gladly pay, I'll let you in on some info.

Every year for the past several the VRCC has produced and marketed a wall calendar.  It's a form of generating income to help with the small costs of maintaining and operating the VRCC.  For the past couple of years I have encouraged the staff (actually the one of the staff that does it) to include on the order page an option to contribute (I avoid the term donate because the VRCC is not a charity) additionally to the VRCC.  We have a few very generous members who take advantage of the opportunity.  We have about three thousand folks who regularly visit the message boards although the number of active participants is significantly lower.  How many would you guess put their money where there mouth is concerning happily contributing?  Your guess would be high.  Our income from that annual revenue raising exercise tends to be between one third and one sixth of the VRCC's annual expense.  That revenue is including the few who gave extra.

David's explanation is quite accurate.  He would know as he did the job for several years.

That thought in mind, it's October and I need to get a post out so we can have calendars available by November.  Get your Valkyrie photos ready.  I'll give you two weeks when I post.    

Thanks for doing another calendar Carl 

[Hooter]

Initially when something new comes along people will readily donate to see programs get underway. As they pnew programs progress in time contributions dwindle after the newness wears off or people leave the program.  Then who is stuck paying the bill as the contributions start to dry up that fed or maintained the program? Say the amount to start or maintain such a program is $1,000 a year. IF that amount isn't reached and say it's short by $250.00, who pays, or better yet, how do you return the monies accumulated after the program is discontinued?

Progress is always good and inevidable. There are people here that may be technically challenged, their choice! They don't need all the new fang dangled crap and are perfectly happy the way things are. This forum is run on experience and by people that know what it takes to make it work. Its still remains one of the most active / productive forums around while others are dying daily. There is a reason for that.

[moodyvalk]

come on guys, this topic went way off track. 

as far as i know, tapatalk doenst cost anything for a forum.

as far as me not knowing how to use my device, fact of the matter is this is not the only forum i am on and i thought it would be nice to have this forum available with the same app I use everyday for my other forums. 

as far as a fee to this site, if there was a fee none of you would have a clue about the only turbocharged valkryie and the current build i am working on because I would have never joined.  I have so much technical information and advice to offer this board.  I have meet a new friend shortly after i joined, attic rat.  Bob and I talk on almost a daily basis.  so I am very thankful for a free forum, just like every other forums I am a member of.

sure if you make a fee for this board, I wont me be member any more but that doesnt mean i dont want to be here.  I feel that i bring and have brought alot of new light to this forum.  as some of you know, I dont even own a valkyrie so every post i do is for your entertainment not mine.  my request was a simple request. 

the advertisements at the top of the page, for an example, and from venders should bring in revenue, and if it doesn't shame on them. 

[Attic Rat]

I am sure that Willow will ck this out for everyone and let us know what the out come is. That being said come on guys none us like change but sometimes it is for the better. All Dustin is asking is to give this app a chance to make it better for the ones that choose to use it. I never post pictures it is too much trouble. However I do post pictures once in a while on face book.