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« on: December 06, 2015, 02:47:26 PM »

http://rednecknewswire.com/2015/10/15-year-old-who-swatted-gamer-convicted-of-domestic-terrorism-25-years-to-life-in-federal-prison/#
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2015, 02:54:18 PM »

If true I think it may be a bit harsh but he does need to be punished.
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2015, 02:56:14 PM »

I think the sentence was too long and I don't agree with a terrorism charge in this case

it keeps up EVERYHING will be terrorism and EVERYTHING will be 25 to life

in my opinion

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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2015, 02:58:29 PM »

Harsh? Maybe, could have gotten someone killed, that is kinda harsh also.

Stupid - absolutely.
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2015, 02:59:51 PM »

I'm wondering what you think ?




I guess I need to get out more often, never heard of this.
But, considering what what the phone calls said and it was done twice, I feel he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law as the judge stated.
Another but, this a just a dumb ass stupid friggin' kid. I think he should receive a pretty harsh punishment and his parents should have to pay the bill. 25 yrs for this is harsh especially for a stupid kids action.
I'm thinking this will be looked at and the sentence reduced, I think this is intended to scare the crap out of the kid. Parents should still be billed for all expenses.

Geee, you guys are fast typers.
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2015, 03:07:23 PM »

SWAT'ing is INCREDIBLY dangerous for everyone involved, and should be punished very severely IMHO. I don't like the "Terrorism" tag being overused (The boy who cried Wolf! syndrome) but I can see how it could apply here, depending on his intentions.

Hopefully this conviction will make the anti-civil rights groups think twice about advocating their members SWAT lawfully armed people in public.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/01/gun-control-groups-accused-swatting-open-carry-permit-holders-putting-lives-at/

Their tactic of SWAT'ing people has already caused at least one death.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/26/walmart-ohio-shooting-charges-911-calller-john-crawford
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2015, 03:09:47 PM »

I got no problem with this. He was attacking unsuspecting people with a police SWAT team.
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2015, 03:11:30 PM »

http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/swatted.asp
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2015, 03:15:11 PM »



D'oh! Been a busy weekend, moved 2 new gun safes into place and I'm plum wore out!

But yeah, that specific one was fake but there has been dangerous cases of SWAT'ing, and at least one conviction, although for only a year and a day:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3270701/Connecticut-online-gamer-22-sentenced-one-year-prison-swatting.html

But IMHO SWAT'ing is akin to attempted murder and should be treated as such.
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2015, 03:18:56 PM »



D'oh! Been a busy weekend, moved 2 new gun safes into place and I'm plum wore out!

But yeah, that specific one was fake but there has been dangerous cases of SWAT'ing, and at least one conviction, although for only a year and a day:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3270701/Connecticut-online-gamer-22-sentenced-one-year-prison-swatting.html

But IMHO SWAT'ing is akin to attempted murder and should be treated as such.
I agree. It's about as scumbaggy a thing one could do. (I know it's not a word) I am very proud that I outserked the Serk though  2funny
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2015, 03:26:46 PM »

Needs punished and might set an example for others to help deter that from happening.   However, that being said..... I have seen or heard of some folks committing murder or causing a death and receiving much less.

Have you noticed that crimes committed against or involving Police, Police Dogs or the law, have much harsher punishments than if it were a regular citizen?   
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2015, 03:44:15 PM »



D'oh! Been a busy weekend, moved 2 new gun safes into place and I'm plum wore out!

But yeah, that specific one was fake but there has been dangerous cases of SWAT'ing, and at least one conviction, although for only a year and a day:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3270701/Connecticut-online-gamer-22-sentenced-one-year-prison-swatting.html

But IMHO SWAT'ing is akin to attempted murder and should be treated as such.
I agree. It's about as scumbaggy a thing one could do. (I know it's not a word) I am very proud that I outserked the Serk though  2funny
I thought that was my job....
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2015, 04:14:05 PM »



D'oh! Been a busy weekend, moved 2 new gun safes into place and I'm plum wore out!

But yeah, that specific one was fake but there has been dangerous cases of SWAT'ing, and at least one conviction, although for only a year and a day:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3270701/Connecticut-online-gamer-22-sentenced-one-year-prison-swatting.html

But IMHO SWAT'ing is akin to attempted murder and should be treated as such.
I agree. It's about as scumbaggy a thing one could do. (I know it's not a word) I am very proud that I outserked the Serk though  2funny
I thought that was my job....





What's your job ?  Out doing the Serkman ?!  When has that happened ?   Grin
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2015, 04:19:48 PM »



D'oh! Been a busy weekend, moved 2 new gun safes into place and I'm plum wore out!

But yeah, that specific one was fake but there has been dangerous cases of SWAT'ing, and at least one conviction, although for only a year and a day:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3270701/Connecticut-online-gamer-22-sentenced-one-year-prison-swatting.html

But IMHO SWAT'ing is akin to attempted murder and should be treated as such.
I agree. It's about as scumbaggy a thing one could do. (I know it's not a word) I am very proud that I outserked the Serk though  2funny
I thought that was my job....
All are welcome to deliver the truth  Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2015, 04:46:30 PM »

HAD the O P been true and with the severe-now false I guess-injury as stated the punishment do fit the crime. And here is WHY-someone HAS to be made an example of so others contemplating similar idiocy MIGHT take pause. Just because you ARE young and dumb is NOT an excuse-I M HO. Had this actually happened would the 15 year old been happy once or would he have been happier had someone died? RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2015, 07:41:08 AM »

It is a really really tuff call! You don't want to waste a young life, but yet young people, can pull a trigger just as an adult could, age, color or gender, make no difference, whether it is a gun or a keyboard, to do damage to someone's life.

Like I have said before, we had a saying in our neighborhood, "If you are old enough to shoot your mouth off, you are old enough to get your ass kicked"!
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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2015, 04:41:50 PM »

This is an extremely harsh sentence.

Not only is it a waste of a young person's life it is also an incredible waste of tax dollars.

The young man did a stupid thing and should be punished.

I would think that being sent to a juvenile facility until he's 21 would be more than sufficient.

While his actions are disturbing, I am more disturbed by the actions of the SWAT team, after all they did shoot and critically wound an unarmed man.

There seems to be an epidemic in this country of the police shooting the same citizens that they are being paid to serve.

In essence the excessiveness of the young man's punishment seems to have hinged on the failure of the police to do their job properly.
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2015, 04:48:42 PM »

This is an extremely harsh sentence.

Not only is it a waste of a young person's life it is also an incredible waste of tax dollars.

The young man did a stupid thing and should be punished.

I would think that being sent to a juvenile facility until he's 21 would be more than sufficient.

While his actions are disturbing, I am more disturbed by the actions of the SWAT team, after all they did shoot and critically wound an unarmed man.

There seems to be an epidemic in this country of the police shooting the same citizens that they are being paid to serve.

In essence the excessiveness of the young man's punishment seems to have hinged on the failure of the police to do their job properly.
Uh...it was a made up story.  Shocked
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2015, 05:14:07 PM »

This is an extremely harsh sentence.

Not only is it a waste of a young person's life it is also an incredible waste of tax dollars.

The young man did a stupid thing and should be punished.

I would think that being sent to a juvenile facility until he's 21 would be more than sufficient.

While his actions are disturbing, I am more disturbed by the actions of the SWAT team, after all they did shoot and critically wound an unarmed man.

There seems to be an epidemic in this country of the police shooting the same citizens that they are being paid to serve.

In essence the excessiveness of the young man's punishment seems to have hinged on the failure of the police to do their job properly.
Uh...it was a made up story.  Shocked

Apparently, the story in the OP is false.

However, SWATTING seems to be a real practice:

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2013/september/the-crime-of-swatting-fake-9-1-1-calls-have-real-consequences/
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2015, 05:21:19 PM »

This is an extremely harsh sentence.

Not only is it a waste of a young person's life it is also an incredible waste of tax dollars.

The young man did a stupid thing and should be punished.

I would think that being sent to a juvenile facility until he's 21 would be more than sufficient.

While his actions are disturbing, I am more disturbed by the actions of the SWAT team, after all they did shoot and critically wound an unarmed man.

There seems to be an epidemic in this country of the police shooting the same citizens that they are being paid to serve.

In essence the excessiveness of the young man's punishment seems to have hinged on the failure of the police to do their job properly.
Uh...it was a made up story.  Shocked

Apparently, the story in the OP is false.

However, SWATTING seems to be a real practice:

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2013/september/the-crime-of-swatting-fake-9-1-1-calls-have-real-consequences/
No apparently about it. And yes swatting does happen.
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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2015, 05:39:12 PM »

This is an extremely harsh sentence.

Not only is it a waste of a young person's life it is also an incredible waste of tax dollars.

The young man did a stupid thing and should be punished.

I would think that being sent to a juvenile facility until he's 21 would be more than sufficient.

While his actions are disturbing, I am more disturbed by the actions of the SWAT team, after all they did shoot and critically wound an unarmed man.

There seems to be an epidemic in this country of the police shooting the same citizens that they are being paid to serve.

In essence the excessiveness of the young man's punishment seems to have hinged on the failure of the police to do their job properly.
Uh...it was a made up story.  Shocked

Apparently, the story in the OP is false.

However, SWATTING seems to be a real practice:

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2013/september/the-crime-of-swatting-fake-9-1-1-calls-have-real-consequences/
No apparently about it. And yes swatting does happen.

I don't really see the need for the remark.

Comes across as "Self Righteous" BS to me.
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2015, 05:46:19 PM »

This is an extremely harsh sentence.

Not only is it a waste of a young person's life it is also an incredible waste of tax dollars.

The young man did a stupid thing and should be punished.

I would think that being sent to a juvenile facility until he's 21 would be more than sufficient.

While his actions are disturbing, I am more disturbed by the actions of the SWAT team, after all they did shoot and critically wound an unarmed man.

There seems to be an epidemic in this country of the police shooting the same citizens that they are being paid to serve.

In essence the excessiveness of the young man's punishment seems to have hinged on the failure of the police to do their job properly.
Uh...it was a made up story.  Shocked

Apparently, the story in the OP is false.

However, SWATTING seems to be a real practice:

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2013/september/the-crime-of-swatting-fake-9-1-1-calls-have-real-consequences/
No apparently about it. And yes swatting does happen.

I don't really see the need for the remark.

Comes across as "Self Righteous" BS to me.

lol... coolsmiley
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2015, 05:58:08 PM »

This is an extremely harsh sentence.

Not only is it a waste of a young person's life it is also an incredible waste of tax dollars.

The young man did a stupid thing and should be punished.

I would think that being sent to a juvenile facility until he's 21 would be more than sufficient.

While his actions are disturbing, I am more disturbed by the actions of the SWAT team, after all they did shoot and critically wound an unarmed man.

There seems to be an epidemic in this country of the police shooting the same citizens that they are being paid to serve.

In essence the excessiveness of the young man's punishment seems to have hinged on the failure of the police to do their job properly.
Uh...it was a made up story.  Shocked

Apparently, the story in the OP is false.

However, SWATTING seems to be a real practice:

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2013/september/the-crime-of-swatting-fake-9-1-1-calls-have-real-consequences/
No apparently about it. And yes swatting does happen.

I don't really see the need for the remark.

Comes across as "Self Righteous" BS to me.
Dude, you can have it come across however you want. You were so eager to jump on a BS story that you wanted to believe, you didn't even take time to read the posts before posting.  Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2015, 05:59:45 PM »

I do hope you noticed my politeness in not calling you Sweetie. It took great restraint on my part.  coolsmiley
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2015, 06:02:53 PM »

As the OP I can tell you all that I posted the link to show that
a search based on Warrant may or may not be legit instead of hijacking a prior post

The fact that the story may be false in part only serves in my eyes to further make the point that all is not always as it seems

Giving false testimony is wrong, people can die, reputations can be lost  SWATTING is scummy practice Its right up there with yelling fire in a crowded theater

And snopes is not perfect any more than the NYTimes or MSNBC or Fox  ( and for the record I stopped reading the times when I was 11 because it make me sick)
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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2015, 06:16:21 PM »

As the OP I can tell you all that I posted the link to show that
a search based on Warrant may or may not be legit instead of hijacking a prior post

The fact that the story may be false in part only serves in my eyes to further make the point that all is not always as it seems

Giving false testimony is wrong, people can die, reputations can be lost  SWATTING is scummy practice Its right up there with yelling fire in a crowded theater

And snopes is not perfect any more than the NYTimes or MSNBC or Fox  ( and for the record I stopped reading the times when I was 11 because it make me sick)

Oss, it's really no big deal.  Smiley There seem to be a lot of supposed media outfits spitting out a lot of BS. I'm not really sure why. And no Snopes is not infallible. But that was an easy story to unsluth. In the comments section below the supposed story, people explained it to be a photo of some scumbag who abused a little kid. It was pretty easy to figure it out from there. That's why I was so tickled with Serk.  2funny Even a meathead butcher can beat a techno whiz in a blue moon. (Something about a blind sguirrel to add on to the other thread)  Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2015, 06:21:12 PM »

I do hope you noticed my politeness in not calling you Sweetie. It took great restraint on my part.  coolsmiley


Glad you restrained yourself, I might've thought you were making unwelcome sexual advances.   Evil  Evil
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« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2015, 06:23:02 PM »

I do hope you noticed my politeness in not calling you Sweetie. It took great restraint on my part.  coolsmiley


Glad you restrained yourself, I might've thought you were making unwelcome sexual advances.   Evil  Evil
2funny I'm lucky if I get sexual advances from my wife. You are safe  Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2015, 06:26:56 PM »

I do hope you noticed my politeness in not calling you Sweetie. It took great restraint on my part.  coolsmiley


Glad you restrained yourself, I might've thought you were making unwelcome sexual advances.   Evil  Evil
2funny I'm lucky if I get sexual advances from my wife. You are safe  Smiley


Lol,, too funny cooldude


I get them from my wife all the time,, more BS for the pile lol
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« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2015, 06:30:57 PM »

I do hope you noticed my politeness in not calling you Sweetie. It took great restraint on my part.  coolsmiley


Glad you restrained yourself, I might've thought you were making unwelcome sexual advances.   Evil  Evil
2funny I'm lucky if I get sexual advances from my wife. You are safe  Smiley


Lol,, too funny cooldude


I get them from my wife all the time,, more BS for the pile lol
2funny I'm happy for you  cooldude
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« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2015, 06:31:35 PM »

This is an extremely harsh sentence.

Not only is it a waste of a young person's life it is also an incredible waste of tax dollars.

The young man did a stupid thing and should be punished.

I would think that being sent to a juvenile facility until he's 21 would be more than sufficient.

While his actions are disturbing, I am more disturbed by the actions of the SWAT team, after all they did shoot and critically wound an unarmed man.

There seems to be an epidemic in this country of the police shooting the same citizens that they are being paid to serve.

In essence the excessiveness of the young man's punishment seems to have hinged on the failure of the police to do their job properly.
Uh...it was a made up story.  Shocked


Apparently, the story in the OP is false.

However, SWATTING seems to be a real practice:

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2013/september/the-crime-of-swatting-fake-9-1-1-calls-have-real-consequences/
No apparently about it. And yes swatting does happen.


I don't really see the need for the remark.

Comes across as "Self Righteous" BS to me.
Dude, you can have it come across however you want. You were so eager to jump on a BS story that you wanted to believe, you didn't even take time to read the posts before posting.  Smiley


While this story proved to be false, it was easily believable.

Partly due to real stories such as these:

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/crime/family-questions-swat-drug-search-that-led-to-dog-s/article_306f3455-a16b-5d80-b9eb-5a467aff891c.html

http://www.copblock.org/4850/columbia-swat-team-kills-dog-during-drug-raid-again/
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« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2015, 06:33:23 PM »

Ok, Ok. You win  Smiley
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« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2015, 08:15:25 PM »

Ok, Ok. You win  Smiley


And all I had to do was............................ Play the Cops shot the dog card.  Evil  Evil  Evil
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« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2015, 08:26:10 PM »

Ok, Ok. You win  Smiley


And all I had to do was............................ Play the Cops shot the dog card.  Evil  Evil  Evil
2funny Didn't even read it. You just wore me down  coolsmiley
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