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welcome to the real world. http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/aclu-director-quits-when-her-kids-get-frightened-by-man-in-the-bathroom?utm_source=RWN&utm_medium=RWN&utm_campaign=RWN“My children were visibly frightened, concerned about their safety and left asking lots of questions for which I, like many parents, was ill-prepared to answer,” she continued. “I found myself principally and philosophically unaligned with the organization.” but still not too bright.... “I believe there are solutions that can provide accommodations for transgender people and balance the need to ensure women and girls are safe from those who might have malicious intent,” she said. She has started a new website, FindingMiddleGround.com, that seems to look for a middle ground between privacy rights and transgender rights.
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2016, 02:36:08 PM » |
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Welcome to: findingmiddleground.com This Web page is parked for FREE, courtesy of GoDaddy.com. ??????
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2016, 07:01:17 PM » |
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We have come a long way from the days of Leave it to Beaver wonder what Ward and June would think about all of this.
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2016, 07:12:04 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2016, 04:51:47 PM » |
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I'm sorry, but upon logical consideration something doesn't jive with the story. All facilities in women's bathrooms are private; all women's bathrooms have private stalls. Exactly how did the children identify the supposed biological men? They weren't standing around using a urinal, for women's bathrooms do not contain urinals. Since all activity is done behind the closed doors of a private stall, how did the children manage this feat? http://www.snopes.com/aclu-director-resigns-over-transgender-bathroom-policy/It's quite possible that the children were frightened by the physical bearing of the individuals, sure, but to identify them add "men" and the cause of the fright?
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2016, 04:59:12 PM » |
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2016, 06:41:06 PM » |
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So only people who agree with you dinosnake are logical or have common sense. Take your head out of your buthole. Do you think it's possible the children saw the men when they were in the main room with the sinks???? As an adult it does not bother me but for little girls, grow up and use common sense. I feel bad for you...
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2016, 07:52:39 PM » |
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So only people who agree with you dinosnake are logical or have common sense. Take your head out of your buthole. Do you think it's possible the children saw the men when they were in the main room with the sinks???? As an adult it does not bother me but for little girls, grow up and use common sense. I feel bad for you...
You are absolutely right, I DO feel bad for you, for you indeed have no common sense. Let's go over the FACTS, because your reading comprehension is apparently lacking. From the linked Federalist Papers article: “That happened to Maya Dillard Smith, former director of the Georgia chapter of the ACLU. She stepped down after seeing her daughters “frightened” by biological males using the women’s restroom.
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'I have shared my personal experience of having taken my elementary school age daughters into a women’s restroom when shortly after three transgender young adults, over six feet [tall] with deep voices, entered,' she wrote." (emphasis mine) TRANSGENDERED. Which means that they, at least, were dressed as women. And " biological males". In other words, for those who lack the ability to correctly deduce clues, according to the comments on record the individuals in question appeared as women, but were tall and with "deep voices"; a "biological male" who is transgender could not appear as male, for then the double appellation of "transgender" could not apply. If you would stop acting out of fear and study the articles and quotations in question, you would have seen the "common sense" conflicts in the story. The fear could be caused by the size of the individuals in question, but why would that cause "fear" as there are plenty of biological, unaltered women who are tall (I, personally, met a stunningly tall 7-foot woman, and Christa Neuhauser, owner and editor of RoadRunner Motorcycle Touring & Travel magazine, is almost 6-feet tall). The deep voices may have been the trigger, but wouldn't most children question first, "Mommy, why is her voice so deep?" before becoming afraid, mostly due to the adult's response? I'll await further information before judging this story as factual, thank you very much.
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2016, 01:08:13 PM » |
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All facilities in women's bathrooms are private; all women's bathrooms have private stalls.
Obviously never been to McSorley's in NYC. Urine trough in the one, and only, bathroom. 
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2016, 01:12:11 PM » |
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All facilities in women's bathrooms are private; all women's bathrooms have private stalls.
Obviously never been to McSorley's in NYC. Urine trough in the one, and only, bathroom.   Women squat over that ?
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Not all of those folks are size 10 with a size 6 foot and weigh 120lbs. In the Danbury Mall in Danbury, CT, there was a group of transwhatever men. Some of the ugliest things you have ever seen. Some just wore wigs, no other accessories, no makeup, just wigs. Middle aged men in wigs. Others went for it wearing heels and shorts and short waisted shirts with hairy bellies hanging out. Insane stuff. They were laughed at and made fun of, but they sipped their coffees in front of Dunkin Donuts where one of the wigged men worked the counter like they didn't have a care in the world. And they all feel like women and are gonna use the ladies room now that they can and you can't say NO.
Parents were already somewhat hesitant about letting young kids go to public bathrooms alone already. It'll get more serious now.
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All facilities in women's bathrooms are private; all women's bathrooms have private stalls.
Obviously never been to McSorley's in NYC. Urine trough in the one, and only, bathroom.   Women squat over that ? Nope, women hovered over toilets that were in stalls with no doors along the wall facing the urine trough where men unzipped and pissed in the only bathroom in the bar, complete with sawdust on the floor.
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All facilities in women's bathrooms are private; all women's bathrooms have private stalls.
Obviously never been to McSorley's in NYC. Urine trough in the one, and only, bathroom.   Women squat over that ? Nope, women hovered over toilets that were in stalls with no doors along the wall facing the urine trough where men unzipped and pissed in the only bathroom in the bar, complete with sawdust on the floor. Well I guess we won't be going to McSorleys in October . My wife would pee her pants before she would go in there. 
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All facilities in women's bathrooms are private; all women's bathrooms have private stalls.
Obviously never been to McSorley's in NYC. Urine trough in the one, and only, bathroom.   Women squat over that ? Nope, women hovered over toilets that were in stalls with no doors along the wall facing the urine trough where men unzipped and pissed in the only bathroom in the bar, complete with sawdust on the floor. Well I guess we won't be going to McSorleys in October . My wife would pee her pants before she would go in there.  Wait a minute. So, now YOUR wife won't go into a bathroom where she has to do her thing, along with men doing their thing? Why is it OK for your wife to decline, while other women are forced, against their will, to do the same?
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Just asking WHY the 100% Democratic driven demand for men in womens showers and restrooms was happening, and why it is ok for your wife to not go, when the rest are required to?
If you want men in womens showers and restrooms, vote Democrat.
If you don't, vote Republican.
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Only Dems are calling for this. I have not heard a single Republican leader call for this.
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2016, 02:47:43 PM » |
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So in that logic murderers dont need guns to kill ( which they dont) so why make it harder for law abiding citizens to buy guns?
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« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2016, 03:08:31 PM » |
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Just asking WHY the 100% Democratic driven demand for men in womens showers and restrooms was happening, and why it is ok for your wife to not go, when the rest are required to?
If you want men in womens showers and restrooms, vote Democrat.
If you don't, vote Republican.
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Only Dems are calling for this. I have not heard a single Republican leader call for this.
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« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2016, 07:32:42 PM » |
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Just asking WHY the 100% Democratic driven demand for men in womens showers and restrooms was happening, and why it is ok for your wife to not go, when the rest are required to?
If you want men in womens showers and restrooms, vote Democrat.
If you don't, vote Republican.
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Only Dems are calling for this. I have not heard a single Republican leader call for this.
I am going to refrain from any other comment to your asinine statements out of respect for Oss's moratorium .  Asinine? What part? I believe Dems calling for this is true, is it not? Please name the Repubs calling for men in womens restrooms. Please. If there is a bunch of them, then I withdraw my statement. Instead of ad hoc attack on what I said, please point out my error, and I will admit it. What Republicans are calling for this?
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I am going to refrain from any other comment to your asinine statements out of respect for Oss's moratorium .  Don't waste your time, Rob.....It appears that someone got up on the wrong side of the bed today.... 
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« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2016, 06:43:58 AM » |
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Let's be honest here.... the only reason people are questioning this story is that the woman and her children are black. You know, just like all of those people who disagree with our current president, it is because he is black.
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Agreed,, Now I see Richard Simmons is joining the change sex group.
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Agreed,, Now I see Richard Simmons is joining the change sex group.
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How about three toilets, one marked men, one marked women,and one marked other? I'm being serious. Hoser ???
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How about three toilets, one marked men, one marked women,and one marked other? I'm being serious. Hoser ???
Or stand alone single units with 3 symbols on? But that would be too easy for some who want to create division.
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How about three toilets, one marked men, one marked women,and one marked other? I'm being serious. Hoser ???
I feel like I'm a canine trapped in a human's body. I will just use the door frame. Thank you for accepting my mental disorder.
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How about three toilets, one marked men, one marked women,and one marked other? I'm being serious. Hoser ???
I feel like I'm a canine trapped in a human's body. I will just use the door frame. Thank you for accepting my mental disorder. Men were given bigger brains than dogs so they would not hump women's shins at social events 
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Here in liberallunacy NYC, a girls swim team that uses one of the city's public pools were afraid to use the women's locker room as there was a bearded individual seen in there. They spoke to the park's dept. folks who told the team that nothing will be done about the bearded individual, but that they should use the bathroom designated for families.
Why doesn't the bearded individual use the family room and let the kids use the girls locker room.
It is all so very backwards.
BUT, ........... I heard a interview with that person Jazz and John Gambling the other day that made me see "part" of the other side. If you don't know, Jazz is a person who says she is a girl born into a boys body. She lives life as a girl in every way. If you saw her in the street you would never know. She was asked about this whole bathroom thing and was presented with the safety issue for girls and women. Jazz said that HER safety would be an issue if she was forced to use the men's room. I could see THAT happening sooner that I could see it happening the other way around.
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But, if you could not tell "she" was a man, G-Man, if "she" just used the womens restroom, who would know? Nobody. The left has made an issue, out of a non-issue.
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