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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2016, 12:01:54 PM »

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why is she still walking around?

Yes baldo I ask that to myself every day.....WHY?

BECAUSE- Her name is Clinton and the one with the name OBAMA is protecting her with the full force of the illegal system that put him in place. 

Its called corruption, but in HRC's case corruption has risen to the level of organized crime.

What I said about orange stripes........not kidding, still hoping to see it, not holding my breath though.
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« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2016, 12:16:01 PM »

Chrisj, it's not the total lack of character.  On the basis of my question ,that's subjective.

She's qualified by age, but, once again, based on her record only.  For instance, could she honesty take the Oath of the Office of the President?


The FACT that she is a habitual and Sociopathic liar is fairly OBJECTIVE

this article should have her picture on it https://www.truthaboutdeception.com/lying-and-deception/confronting-a-partner/compulsive-lying/types-of-liars.html


Man, it doesn't take much chum to get you guys into a feeding frenzy, does it?

Yes, she lies. I don't think anyone has ever argued that point. But THEY ALL LIE. EVERY LAST ONE. I don't know why you think a Presidential candidate has to be fing Snow White. Do you think trump lies? Did you think Cheney, I mean Bush, lied? Yes, I'm sure Obama has been less than truthful, but with these blinders on I can't really pick one out. But I know you fellas would be more than happy to help me out.

If you have issues with policy, fine, great. Those are things that can be debated. What do you like about Trump's economic plan? Oh, that's right. He doesn't have one. But you're going to run to the ballot box to vote for him. You can't stand Hillary because she lies. Alrighty then.... Yes, Clinton is definitely flawed, but she's not crazily unprepared like Trump. I just don't get it.


baldo.....calm down if you want to accuse others of being in a frenzy   crazy2

The woman is a criminal (that's not the norm) she lies about anything and everything for personal gain.  She broke a law that disqualifies her for office.  We could all love her policies and believe she is the best possible candidate and still SHE IS UNFIT/INELIGIBE FOR THE OFFICE by law.


Ok.....tell you what. I'll type slower for you if that'll help.

And your interesting use of the word criminal. Usually that pertains to someone that's been convicted of a crime. But I guess that's the way you see it, enough said. And unfit by law? Which law would that be, exactly?


Here Baldo, I copied and pasted this SLOWLY so you can understand it better:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/criminal?s=t

criminal
[krim-uh-nl]
Spell  Syllables
Synonyms Examples Word Origin
See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com
adjective
1.
of the nature of or involving crime.
2.
guilty of crime.
3.
Law. of or relating to crime or its punishment:
a criminal proceeding.
4.
senseless; foolish:
It's criminal to waste so much good food.
5.
exorbitant; grossly overpriced:
They charge absolutely criminal prices.
noun
6.
a person guilty or convicted of a crime.
(see CLINTON)<(I added that part just to make it absolutely clear)

Note that it doesn't say found guilty in a court of law, it says guilty OR convicted.


I see...So because YOU say she's a criminal, she's a criminal. Never mind all the real law enforcement types that would have some weight behind it. You say she's a criminal, so bang, she is one. I get it now. Thanks for clearing that up.

You know, you're right. I've been saying that for 13 years now, about Bush and Cheney. Not only did they lie, but 4500 + soldiers died. Never mind the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, Afghans, and other assorteds that happened to be around. You're absolutely right.  So, are they guilty of lying, (not a crime), or plain old murder?
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« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2016, 01:58:18 PM »

No, she's a criminal because she's a criminal. If you had the most powerful man on the planet protecting you, you also could get away with all this crap. If she goes down Obama would go down with her.
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« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2016, 02:02:03 PM »

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« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2016, 02:34:50 PM »


I see...So because YOU say she's a criminal, she's a criminal. Never mind all the real law enforcement types that would have some weight behind it. You say she's a criminal, so bang, she is one. I get it now. Thanks for clearing that up.

You know, you're right. I've been saying that for 13 years now, about Bush and Cheney. Not only did they lie, but 4500 + soldiers died. Never mind the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, Afghans, and other assorteds that happened to be around. You're absolutely right.  So, are they guilty of lying, (not a crime), or plain old murder?

I'll type this slowly, It doesn't matter what I say, what matters is if she committed a crime.  If she did, she is a criminal by definition, not by my opinion.  If lying is not a crime (as you state), then Bush and Cheney are not criminals for lying.  Service members killed in the line of duty following lawful orders of their superiors, aren't murdered, therefore again, no crime committed.

Further discussion violates the original intent of this post, so if you wish to continue, please start another.
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« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2016, 03:24:19 PM »


I see...So because YOU say she's a criminal, she's a criminal. Never mind all the real law enforcement types that would have some weight behind it. You say she's a criminal, so bang, she is one. I get it now. Thanks for clearing that up.

You know, you're right. I've been saying that for 13 years now, about Bush and Cheney. Not only did they lie, but 4500 + soldiers died. Never mind the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, Afghans, and other assorteds that happened to be around. You're absolutely right.  So, are they guilty of lying, (not a crime), or plain old murder?

I'll type this slowly, It doesn't matter what I say, what matters is if she committed a crime.  If she did, she is a criminal by definition, not by my opinion.  If lying is not a crime (as you state), then Bush and Cheney are not criminals for lying.  Service members killed in the line of duty following lawful orders of their superiors, aren't murdered, therefore again, no crime committed.

Further discussion violates the original intent of this post, so if you wish to continue, please start another.

No thanks. I think I've wasted enough time and keystrokes on this. Thanks for the offer.
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« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2016, 02:26:35 AM »

No
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« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2016, 12:30:06 PM »


HELL NO
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« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2016, 09:39:40 PM »

No.

Nor would she be qualified to work with children, or in health care, or handling money, or doing anything which requires a degree of integrity.

She was in Mexico giving speeches blaming our 2nd Amendment for their high murder rate while zero helped get guns to the cartels to further her propaganda, guns which have killed many good people. If it was't for honest LEOs who gave up their careers to speak the truth we would have never known.

She let American's die in Benghazi to avoid bad publicity just before an election. Then she lied to the victims families and the public about it, over and over.

She defended the rapist of a 12 year-old girl, laughed about it and claims to be the champion of the fairer sex.

She mishandled classified information and lied to the public and the Senate about it. Her mishandling of this classified info probably got an Iranian nuclear scientist hanged.

Most human beings could not live with the deaths her incompetence and lies have caused. It doesn't seem to weight on her at all.

She is not merely a liar.

She is a sociopath, she has no soul, no integrity, no empathy. She's a rich, smart, well connected Charles Manson and has no business in government at any level.



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« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2016, 09:51:35 PM »

No.

Nor would she be qualified to work with children, or in health care, or handling money, or doing anything which requires a degree of integrity.

She was in Mexico giving speeches blaming our 2nd Amendment for their high murder rate while zero helped get guns to the cartels to further her propaganda, guns which have killed many good people. If it was't for honest LEOs who gave up their careers to speak the truth we would have never known.

She let American's die in Benghazi to avoid bad publicity just before an election. Then she lied to the victims families and the public about it, over and over.

She defended the rapist of a 12 year-old girl, laughed about it and claims to be the champion of the fairer sex.

She mishandled classified information and lied to the public and the Senate about it. Her mishandling of this classified info probably got an Iranian nuclear scientist hanged.

Most human beings could not live with the deaths her incompetence and lies have caused. It doesn't seem to weight on her at all.

She is not merely a liar.

She is a sociopath, she has no soul, no integrity, no empathy. She's a rich, smart, well connected Charles Manson and has no business in government at any level.





Wow, you could use a little decaf.
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« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2016, 03:25:30 AM »

Looks like my thread is ending.

As near as I can tell, we have 19 no's, one yes, two ambigious, and two who typed slower.

The verdict is in.  Shades of Johnny Cochran and Ferguson.  The Grand Jury is dismissed.  Final judgement and verdict in November.
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« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2016, 05:24:55 AM »

No.

Nor would she be qualified to work with children, or in health care, or handling money, or doing anything which requires a degree of integrity.

She was in Mexico giving speeches blaming our 2nd Amendment for their high murder rate while zero helped get guns to the cartels to further her propaganda, guns which have killed many good people. If it was't for honest LEOs who gave up their careers to speak the truth we would have never known.

She let American's die in Benghazi to avoid bad publicity just before an election. Then she lied to the victims families and the public about it, over and over.

She defended the rapist of a 12 year-old girl, laughed about it and claims to be the champion of the fairer sex.

She mishandled classified information and lied to the public and the Senate about it. Her mishandling of this classified info probably got an Iranian nuclear scientist hanged.

Most human beings could not live with the deaths her incompetence and lies have caused. It doesn't seem to weight on her at all.

She is not merely a liar.

She is a sociopath, she has no soul, no integrity, no empathy. She's a rich, smart, well connected Charles Manson and has no business in government at any level.





Wow, you could use a little decaf.

Whats wrong Baldo? Don't like hearing the truth?
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« Reply #52 on: August 28, 2016, 06:09:54 AM »

Your question was, "is Hillary qualified to be President". There are clear defined qualifications that she does meet, otherwise she wouldn't be the nominee, supposedly. She has met the outlined qualifications. The real question that EVERYONE should ask is based on the intentions of the Constitution and the original signers of it as well as the intended goal of America, does she fit the mold. The argument will be made that times have changed. That is true but the intended goal for so many is still the same. We have outlived the life expectancy of our civilization. Once people figured by giving votes they got something for free the life expectancy was shortened. It was expedited when the politicians started finding more ways to give free stuff for votes.

Is she qualified YES, they both are. Is she going to be good for the country, of course not. She is power hungry and conniving. Politicians are no longer working for the people they swore to represent. They are working for extending the reach of government, all of them. The difference is some do it to lesser of a degree than others.
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« Reply #53 on: August 28, 2016, 06:43:27 AM »

She hates everything our country stands for. We all know her character is flawed. She is a globalist that wants no borders. The democratic platform is pure communism without out the guns. She is wrong on 100 percent of the issues while Trump is not perfect is right on 80 percent of the issues. Freedom and liberty as we know it will erode beyond recognition. America needs to wake up, it's almost to late! Any other person with her record would be in jail.
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« Reply #54 on: August 28, 2016, 06:52:03 AM »

She hates everything our country stands for. We all know her character is flawed. She is a globalist that wants no borders. The democratic platform is pure communism without out the guns. She is wrong on 100 percent of the issues while Trump is not perfect is right on 80 percent of the issues. Freedom and liberty as we know it will erode beyond recognition. America needs to wake up, it's almost to late! Any other person with her record would be in jail.
100% of the issues ?
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« Reply #55 on: August 28, 2016, 08:17:32 AM »


Wow, you could use a little decaf.

Whats wrong Baldo? Don't like hearing the truth?

When I hear it, I'll let you know.... Wink Wink
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« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2016, 08:19:48 AM »

She hates everything our country stands for. We all know her character is flawed. She is a globalist that wants no borders. The democratic platform is pure communism without out the guns. She is wrong on 100 percent of the issues while Trump is not perfect is right on 80 percent of the issues. Freedom and liberty as we know it will erode beyond recognition. America needs to wake up, it's almost to late! Any other person with her record would be in jail.

I know it's early, but this is the most ridiculous comment I've read today...
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« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2016, 08:21:39 AM »

She hates everything our country stands for. We all know her character is flawed. She is a globalist that wants no borders. The democratic platform is pure communism without out the guns. She is wrong on 100 percent of the issues while Trump is not perfect is right on 80 percent of the issues. Freedom and liberty as we know it will erode beyond recognition. America needs to wake up, it's almost to late! Any other person with her record would be in jail.

I know it's early, but this is the most ridiculous comment I've read today...
I'm sure there will be plenty more.  Sad
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« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2016, 08:47:41 AM »

Hilary Clinton.  Her record.

She violated national security procedures. Public summation by the FBI.

She lies.   Proven by suggestion of video in Benghazi incident. Also proven by additional statements by FBI Comer.

She has publicly stated her opposition to the decision by the majority of members of the SCOTUS regarding the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, ( however, since she lies, that might not be the truth.)


There is no need to make "ridiculous" statements, as defined by Baldo and Meathead.  It isn't necessary.

I'll make no further comment on this thread that I started.

wayne, solo1


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« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2016, 09:00:22 AM »

Ok.....tell you what. I'll type slower for you if that'll help.

Bob,
I gotta be honest here, a condensing attitude and inferring stupidity only pisses folks off.   Maybe that was your intent, I don't know and only you can answer that but, my interpretation is that you got what you wished for.

Edited:  Upon re-reading the thread, I see that others believe they need to type slowly.   Proceed with caution, Damn the Torpedoes, Full Speed Ahead!!

As far as Clinton being qualified, as much as Obama and look what that got us.  

She's been in "public service" for years so, she knows how the system is supposed to work.  She also has experience in the White House where she learned the constraints of what a sitting President can get away with.  Several examples from supposedly transparent administrations to learn from.  Apparently not the same experience Bill had with Monica but, she surely learned something from Bill.   Quite frankly, that concerns me.

I don't mean to suggest she didn't use those learning experiences to her distinct advantage.  The Clinton's wealth has grown enormously along with the Clinton Foundation's value.   The original question did not ask about her morals and did specifically ask to leave Trump out of the equation so, I have to say that she should be qualified.   Although I don't see many folks lining up for Ambassador assignments for her....   But, she lacks the integrity to take the sworn oath and follow through with it so, that makes my response a solid NO.  

Her qualifications don't mean I'd consider voting for her.   In fact, I'll vote for anyone else.    
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« Reply #60 on: August 28, 2016, 09:44:10 AM »

Hilary Clinton.  Her record.

She violated national security procedures. Public summation by the FBI.

She lies.   Proven by suggestion of video in Benghazi incident. Also proven by additional statements by FBI Comer.

She has publicly stated her opposition to the decision by the majority of members of the SCOTUS regarding the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, ( however, since she lies, that might not be the truth.)


There is no need to make "ridiculous" statements, as defined by Baldo and Meathead.  It isn't necessary.

I'll make no further comment on this thread that I started.

wayne, solo1



EXACTLY. There is plenty of stuff to rebuff her on. Coming up with falsehoods doesn't make any sense.
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« Reply #61 on: August 28, 2016, 12:15:42 PM »

It is difficult to find any issue to agree with Hillary . She a globalist that bows to other counties, she will decimate even further our military, she wants bring in millions so Muslim refuges, she wants wide open borders, their  polices in inner cities are a failure supports killing of babies in pregnacey with no restrictions. Supports giving illegals more money than our vetrans. Supports ending of free speech and restrictions on worship. Wants to nationalize the police under har authority. Wants to make legal gun owners outlaws. Her and Obama transgender views are already putting children at risk. I could go on. She's most responsible for the murders at Benghazi. She's paid herself millions throug her money laundering foundation. Yes I would say she's pretty much wrong on every issue and hates any thing that made our county great. She will appoint judges that hate our constitution and the basics of our nation. I guess that's enough. I stand by my comment that she's fundamentally wrong on every issue.



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« Reply #62 on: August 28, 2016, 12:38:07 PM »

Wayne, you need to rename the title of this thread to, You must ask yourself , Am I in touch with reality ?
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« Reply #63 on: August 28, 2016, 12:48:35 PM »

Wayne, you need to rename the title of this thread to, You must ask yourself , Am I in touch with reality ?

Yeah, because clearly a few of you are not.
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« Reply #64 on: August 28, 2016, 02:04:11 PM »

Wayne, you need to rename the title of this thread to, You must ask yourself , Am I in touch with reality ?

Yeah, because clearly a few of you are not.


ouch....which few would that be?    coolsmiley coolsmiley
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« Reply #65 on: August 28, 2016, 02:08:43 PM »

She hates everything our country stands for. We all know her character is flawed. She is a globalist that wants no borders. The democratic platform is pure communism without out the guns. She is wrong on 100 percent of the issues while Trump is not perfect is right on 80 percent of the issues. Freedom and liberty as we know it will erode beyond recognition. America needs to wake up, it's almost to late! Any other person with her record would be in jail.

I know it's early, but this is the most ridiculous comment I've read today...






Oh, I'm sure it is. Hang in there though, you'll hear more.
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« Reply #66 on: August 28, 2016, 04:31:41 PM »

She was in Mexico giving speeches blaming our 2nd Amendment for their high murder rate while zero helped get guns to the cartels to further her propaganda, guns which have killed many good people. If it was't for honest LEOs who gave up their careers to speak the truth we would have never known.

She let American's die in Benghazi to avoid bad publicity just before an election. Then she lied to the victims families and the public about it, over and over.

She defended the rapist of a 12 year-old girl, laughed about it and claims to be the champion of the fairer sex.

She mishandled classified information and lied to the public and the Senate about it. Her mishandling of this classified info probably got an Iranian nuclear scientist hanged.

Baldo, I mean no disrespect and I hope you mean us none. I generally enjoy an intelligent debate and occasionally have my mind changed by one but that's not happening here. You contest no facts, instead you throw insults, you question others grasp of reality and make disparaging personal remarks such as:

Wow, you could use a little decaf.
When I hear it, I'll let you know.... Wink Wink
I know it's early, but this is the most ridiculous comment I've read today...
Ok.....tell you what. I'll type slower for you if that'll help.

Where are your "facts", where is your "logic", explain your "reasoning" if you disagree. This isn't the Jerry Springer show, we aren't shrill hormone laden teenagers shouting in a parking lot. This is adults discussing the future of our country and our families.

Perhaps my facts were wrong, perhaps someone else's were. Perhaps you realize our facts were correct but you disagree with the conclusions we deduct from them. If so, enlighten us!

Right now, your lack of logical responses just reinforce what most of us already believe. If you want to anger a Conservative or Libertarian, lie to them. If you want to anger a modern Liberal, tell them the truth.
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« Reply #67 on: August 28, 2016, 04:34:58 PM »

She was in Mexico giving speeches blaming our 2nd Amendment for their high murder rate while zero helped get guns to the cartels to further her propaganda, guns which have killed many good people. If it was't for honest LEOs who gave up their careers to speak the truth we would have never known.

She let American's die in Benghazi to avoid bad publicity just before an election. Then she lied to the victims families and the public about it, over and over.

She defended the rapist of a 12 year-old girl, laughed about it and claims to be the champion of the fairer sex.

She mishandled classified information and lied to the public and the Senate about it. Her mishandling of this classified info probably got an Iranian nuclear scientist hanged.

Baldo, I mean no disrespect and I hope you mean us none. I generally enjoy an intelligent debate and occasionally have my mind changed by one but that's not happening here. You contest no facts, instead you throw insults, you question others grasp of reality and make disparaging personal remarks such as:

Wow, you could use a little decaf.
When I hear it, I'll let you know.... Wink Wink
I know it's early, but this is the most ridiculous comment I've read today...
Ok.....tell you what. I'll type slower for you if that'll help.

Where are your "facts", where is your "logic", explain your "reasoning" if you disagree. This isn't the Jerry Springer show, we aren't shrill hormone laden teenagers shouting in a parking lot. This is adults discussing the future of our country and our families.

Perhaps my facts were wrong, perhaps someone else's were. Perhaps you realize our facts were correct but you disagree with the conclusions we deduct from them. If so, enlighten us!

Right now, your lack of logical responses just reinforce what most of us already believe. If you want to anger a Conservative or Libertarian, lie to them. If you want to anger a modern Liberal, tell them the truth.

Of course, I suppose it's possible you're a Donald Trump supporter pretending to be a lib as you rouse us to remember to vote.   Grin Grin
If so, good idea, thanks.  cooldude
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« Reply #68 on: August 28, 2016, 04:39:43 PM »

Of course, I suppose it's possible you're a Donald Trump supporter pretending to be a lib as you rouse us to remember to vote.   Grin Grin
If so, good idea, thanks.  cooldude

Bob,
You old coot, you hade me fooled....................   Good One!!   cooldude
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« Reply #69 on: August 28, 2016, 04:42:12 PM »

She was in Mexico giving speeches blaming our 2nd Amendment for their high murder rate while zero helped get guns to the cartels to further her propaganda, guns which have killed many good people. If it was't for honest LEOs who gave up their careers to speak the truth we would have never known.

She let American's die in Benghazi to avoid bad publicity just before an election. Then she lied to the victims families and the public about it, over and over.

She defended the rapist of a 12 year-old girl, laughed about it and claims to be the champion of the fairer sex.

She mishandled classified information and lied to the public and the Senate about it. Her mishandling of this classified info probably got an Iranian nuclear scientist hanged.

Baldo, I mean no disrespect and I hope you mean us none. I generally enjoy an intelligent debate and occasionally have my mind changed by one but that's not happening here. You contest no facts, instead you throw insults, you question others grasp of reality and make disparaging personal remarks such as:

Wow, you could use a little decaf.
When I hear it, I'll let you know.... Wink Wink
I know it's early, but this is the most ridiculous comment I've read today...
Ok.....tell you what. I'll type slower for you if that'll help.

Where are your "facts", where is your "logic", explain your "reasoning" if you disagree. This isn't the Jerry Springer show, we aren't shrill hormone laden teenagers shouting in a parking lot. This is adults discussing the future of our country and our families.

Perhaps my facts were wrong, perhaps someone else's were. Perhaps you realize our facts were correct but you disagree with the conclusions we deduct from them. If so, enlighten us!

Right now, your lack of logical responses just reinforce what most of us already believe. If you want to anger a Conservative or Libertarian, lie to them. If you want to anger a modern Liberal, tell them the truth.
Frye, the laughing about the rapist has been debunked on here many times.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/
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« Reply #70 on: August 28, 2016, 05:23:46 PM »

She was in Mexico giving speeches blaming our 2nd Amendment for their high murder rate while zero helped get guns to the cartels to further her propaganda, guns which have killed many good people. If it was't for honest LEOs who gave up their careers to speak the truth we would have never known.

She let American's die in Benghazi to avoid bad publicity just before an election. Then she lied to the victims families and the public about it, over and over.

She defended the rapist of a 12 year-old girl, laughed about it and claims to be the champion of the fairer sex.

She mishandled classified information and lied to the public and the Senate about it. Her mishandling of this classified info probably got an Iranian nuclear scientist hanged.

Baldo, I mean no disrespect and I hope you mean us none. I generally enjoy an intelligent debate and occasionally have my mind changed by one but that's not happening here. You contest no facts, instead you throw insults, you question others grasp of reality and make disparaging personal remarks such as:

Wow, you could use a little decaf.
When I hear it, I'll let you know.... Wink Wink
I know it's early, but this is the most ridiculous comment I've read today...
Ok.....tell you what. I'll type slower for you if that'll help.

Where are your "facts", where is your "logic", explain your "reasoning" if you disagree. This isn't the Jerry Springer show, we aren't shrill hormone laden teenagers shouting in a parking lot. This is adults discussing the future of our country and our families.

Perhaps my facts were wrong, perhaps someone else's were. Perhaps you realize our facts were correct but you disagree with the conclusions we deduct from them. If so, enlighten us!

Right now, your lack of logical responses just reinforce what most of us already believe. If you want to anger a Conservative or Libertarian, lie to them. If you want to anger a modern Liberal, tell them the truth.
Frye, the laughing about the rapist has been debunked on here many times.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/



How is it debunked when they have audio and video of this? She defended that sick piece of trash and claimed the girl wanted an older man. But yep, it was debunked. Snopes can kiss my ass.
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« Reply #71 on: August 28, 2016, 05:46:11 PM »

She was in Mexico giving speeches blaming our 2nd Amendment for their high murder rate while zero helped get guns to the cartels to further her propaganda, guns which have killed many good people. If it was't for honest LEOs who gave up their careers to speak the truth we would have never known.

She let American's die in Benghazi to avoid bad publicity just before an election. Then she lied to the victims families and the public about it, over and over.

She defended the rapist of a 12 year-old girl, laughed about it and claims to be the champion of the fairer sex.

She mishandled classified information and lied to the public and the Senate about it. Her mishandling of this classified info probably got an Iranian nuclear scientist hanged.

Baldo, I mean no disrespect and I hope you mean us none. I generally enjoy an intelligent debate and occasionally have my mind changed by one but that's not happening here. You contest no facts, instead you throw insults, you question others grasp of reality and make disparaging personal remarks such as:

Wow, you could use a little decaf.
When I hear it, I'll let you know.... Wink Wink
I know it's early, but this is the most ridiculous comment I've read today...
Ok.....tell you what. I'll type slower for you if that'll help.

Where are your "facts", where is your "logic", explain your "reasoning" if you disagree. This isn't the Jerry Springer show, we aren't shrill hormone laden teenagers shouting in a parking lot. This is adults discussing the future of our country and our families.

Perhaps my facts were wrong, perhaps someone else's were. Perhaps you realize our facts were correct but you disagree with the conclusions we deduct from them. If so, enlighten us!

Right now, your lack of logical responses just reinforce what most of us already believe. If you want to anger a Conservative or Libertarian, lie to them. If you want to anger a modern Liberal, tell them the truth.
Frye, the laughing about the rapist has been debunked on here many times.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/



How is it debunked when they have audio and video of this? She defended that sick piece of trash and claimed the girl wanted an older man. But yep, it was debunked. Snopes can kiss my ass.
Didnt read the article did you ?
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« Reply #72 on: August 28, 2016, 05:59:26 PM »

Snopes can still kiss my ass. i learned not to read anything you link, mostly bullshit.
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« Reply #73 on: August 28, 2016, 06:00:21 PM »

She was in Mexico giving speeches blaming our 2nd Amendment for their high murder rate while zero helped get guns to the cartels to further her propaganda, guns which have killed many good people. If it was't for honest LEOs who gave up their careers to speak the truth we would have never known.

She let American's die in Benghazi to avoid bad publicity just before an election. Then she lied to the victims families and the public about it, over and over.

She defended the rapist of a 12 year-old girl, laughed about it and claims to be the champion of the fairer sex.

She mishandled classified information and lied to the public and the Senate about it. Her mishandling of this classified info probably got an Iranian nuclear scientist hanged.

Baldo, I mean no disrespect and I hope you mean us none. I generally enjoy an intelligent debate and occasionally have my mind changed by one but that's not happening here. You contest no facts, instead you throw insults, you question others grasp of reality and make disparaging personal remarks such as:

Wow, you could use a little decaf.
When I hear it, I'll let you know.... Wink Wink
I know it's early, but this is the most ridiculous comment I've read today...
Ok.....tell you what. I'll type slower for you if that'll help.

Where are your "facts", where is your "logic", explain your "reasoning" if you disagree. This isn't the Jerry Springer show, we aren't shrill hormone laden teenagers shouting in a parking lot. This is adults discussing the future of our country and our families.

Perhaps my facts were wrong, perhaps someone else's were. Perhaps you realize our facts were correct but you disagree with the conclusions we deduct from them. If so, enlighten us!

Right now, your lack of logical responses just reinforce what most of us already believe. If you want to anger a Conservative or Libertarian, lie to them. If you want to anger a modern Liberal, tell them the truth.
Frye, the laughing about the rapist has been debunked on here many times.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/



That is a rational reply. Thank you.
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« Reply #74 on: August 28, 2016, 06:05:06 PM »

She was in Mexico giving speeches blaming our 2nd Amendment for their high murder rate while zero helped get guns to the cartels to further her propaganda, guns which have killed many good people. If it was't for honest LEOs who gave up their careers to speak the truth we would have never known.

She let American's die in Benghazi to avoid bad publicity just before an election. Then she lied to the victims families and the public about it, over and over.

She defended the rapist of a 12 year-old girl, laughed about it and claims to be the champion of the fairer sex.

She mishandled classified information and lied to the public and the Senate about it. Her mishandling of this classified info probably got an Iranian nuclear scientist hanged.

Baldo, I mean no disrespect and I hope you mean us none. I generally enjoy an intelligent debate and occasionally have my mind changed by one but that's not happening here. You contest no facts, instead you throw insults, you question others grasp of reality and make disparaging personal remarks such as:

Wow, you could use a little decaf.
When I hear it, I'll let you know.... Wink Wink
I know it's early, but this is the most ridiculous comment I've read today...
Ok.....tell you what. I'll type slower for you if that'll help.

Where are your "facts", where is your "logic", explain your "reasoning" if you disagree. This isn't the Jerry Springer show, we aren't shrill hormone laden teenagers shouting in a parking lot. This is adults discussing the future of our country and our families.

Perhaps my facts were wrong, perhaps someone else's were. Perhaps you realize our facts were correct but you disagree with the conclusions we deduct from them. If so, enlighten us!

Right now, your lack of logical responses just reinforce what most of us already believe. If you want to anger a Conservative or Libertarian, lie to them. If you want to anger a modern Liberal, tell them the truth.
Frye, the laughing about the rapist has been debunked on here many times.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/



That is a rational reply. Thank you.


I actually thought by debunked he was meaning they were false, that was my bad.
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« Reply #75 on: August 28, 2016, 06:08:16 PM »

She was in Mexico giving speeches blaming our 2nd Amendment for their high murder rate while zero helped get guns to the cartels to further her propaganda, guns which have killed many good people. If it was't for honest LEOs who gave up their careers to speak the truth we would have never known.

She let American's die in Benghazi to avoid bad publicity just before an election. Then she lied to the victims families and the public about it, over and over.

She defended the rapist of a 12 year-old girl, laughed about it and claims to be the champion of the fairer sex.

She mishandled classified information and lied to the public and the Senate about it. Her mishandling of this classified info probably got an Iranian nuclear scientist hanged.

Baldo, I mean no disrespect and I hope you mean us none. I generally enjoy an intelligent debate and occasionally have my mind changed by one but that's not happening here. You contest no facts, instead you throw insults, you question others grasp of reality and make disparaging personal remarks such as:

Wow, you could use a little decaf.
When I hear it, I'll let you know.... Wink Wink
I know it's early, but this is the most ridiculous comment I've read today...
Ok.....tell you what. I'll type slower for you if that'll help.

Where are your "facts", where is your "logic", explain your "reasoning" if you disagree. This isn't the Jerry Springer show, we aren't shrill hormone laden teenagers shouting in a parking lot. This is adults discussing the future of our country and our families.

Perhaps my facts were wrong, perhaps someone else's were. Perhaps you realize our facts were correct but you disagree with the conclusions we deduct from them. If so, enlighten us!

Right now, your lack of logical responses just reinforce what most of us already believe. If you want to anger a Conservative or Libertarian, lie to them. If you want to anger a modern Liberal, tell them the truth.
Frye, the laughing about the rapist has been debunked on here many times.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/



That is a rational reply. Thank you.
No problem.  cooldude We agree on many things. Believe me I have no love for Hillary Clinton, but I hate to see outright lies about anyone. She has done plenty that can be exploited without making stuff up. ( I'm not saying you made it up) Someone, somewhere did though.
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« Reply #76 on: August 28, 2016, 06:10:42 PM »

She was in Mexico giving speeches blaming our 2nd Amendment for their high murder rate while zero helped get guns to the cartels to further her propaganda, guns which have killed many good people. If it was't for honest LEOs who gave up their careers to speak the truth we would have never known.

She let American's die in Benghazi to avoid bad publicity just before an election. Then she lied to the victims families and the public about it, over and over.

She defended the rapist of a 12 year-old girl, laughed about it and claims to be the champion of the fairer sex.

She mishandled classified information and lied to the public and the Senate about it. Her mishandling of this classified info probably got an Iranian nuclear scientist hanged.

Baldo, I mean no disrespect and I hope you mean us none. I generally enjoy an intelligent debate and occasionally have my mind changed by one but that's not happening here. You contest no facts, instead you throw insults, you question others grasp of reality and make disparaging personal remarks such as:

Wow, you could use a little decaf.
When I hear it, I'll let you know.... Wink Wink
I know it's early, but this is the most ridiculous comment I've read today...
Ok.....tell you what. I'll type slower for you if that'll help.

Where are your "facts", where is your "logic", explain your "reasoning" if you disagree. This isn't the Jerry Springer show, we aren't shrill hormone laden teenagers shouting in a parking lot. This is adults discussing the future of our country and our families.

Perhaps my facts were wrong, perhaps someone else's were. Perhaps you realize our facts were correct but you disagree with the conclusions we deduct from them. If so, enlighten us!

Right now, your lack of logical responses just reinforce what most of us already believe. If you want to anger a Conservative or Libertarian, lie to them. If you want to anger a modern Liberal, tell them the truth.
Frye, the laughing about the rapist has been debunked on here many times.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/



That is a rational reply. Thank you.


I actually thought by debunked he was meaning they were false, that was my bad.
Gavin, you will not be irreparably harmed by taking 3 minutes and reading the article.
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« Reply #77 on: August 28, 2016, 06:31:25 PM »

She was in Mexico giving speeches blaming our 2nd Amendment for their high murder rate while zero helped get guns to the cartels to further her propaganda, guns which have killed many good people. If it was't for honest LEOs who gave up their careers to speak the truth we would have never known.

She let American's die in Benghazi to avoid bad publicity just before an election. Then she lied to the victims families and the public about it, over and over.

She defended the rapist of a 12 year-old girl, laughed about it and claims to be the champion of the fairer sex.

She mishandled classified information and lied to the public and the Senate about it. Her mishandling of this classified info probably got an Iranian nuclear scientist hanged.

Baldo, I mean no disrespect and I hope you mean us none. I generally enjoy an intelligent debate and occasionally have my mind changed by one but that's not happening here. You contest no facts, instead you throw insults, you question others grasp of reality and make disparaging personal remarks such as:

Wow, you could use a little decaf.
When I hear it, I'll let you know.... Wink Wink
I know it's early, but this is the most ridiculous comment I've read today...
Ok.....tell you what. I'll type slower for you if that'll help.

Where are your "facts", where is your "logic", explain your "reasoning" if you disagree. This isn't the Jerry Springer show, we aren't shrill hormone laden teenagers shouting in a parking lot. This is adults discussing the future of our country and our families.

Perhaps my facts were wrong, perhaps someone else's were. Perhaps you realize our facts were correct but you disagree with the conclusions we deduct from them. If so, enlighten us!

Right now, your lack of logical responses just reinforce what most of us already believe. If you want to anger a Conservative or Libertarian, lie to them. If you want to anger a modern Liberal, tell them the truth.
Frye, the laughing about the rapist has been debunked on here many times.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/



That is a rational reply. Thank you.


I actually thought by debunked he was meaning they were false, that was my bad.
Gavin, you will not be irreparably harmed by taking 3 minutes and reading the article.


Exactly. And at the end of the article, there's a list of sources that were used to write it.
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« Reply #78 on: August 28, 2016, 06:31:54 PM »

She was in Mexico giving speeches blaming our 2nd Amendment for their high murder rate while zero helped get guns to the cartels to further her propaganda, guns which have killed many good people. If it was't for honest LEOs who gave up their careers to speak the truth we would have never known.

She let American's die in Benghazi to avoid bad publicity just before an election. Then she lied to the victims families and the public about it, over and over.

She defended the rapist of a 12 year-old girl, laughed about it and claims to be the champion of the fairer sex.

She mishandled classified information and lied to the public and the Senate about it. Her mishandling of this classified info probably got an Iranian nuclear scientist hanged.

Baldo, I mean no disrespect and I hope you mean us none. I generally enjoy an intelligent debate and occasionally have my mind changed by one but that's not happening here. You contest no facts, instead you throw insults, you question others grasp of reality and make disparaging personal remarks such as:

Wow, you could use a little decaf.
When I hear it, I'll let you know.... Wink Wink
I know it's early, but this is the most ridiculous comment I've read today...
Ok.....tell you what. I'll type slower for you if that'll help.

Where are your "facts", where is your "logic", explain your "reasoning" if you disagree. This isn't the Jerry Springer show, we aren't shrill hormone laden teenagers shouting in a parking lot. This is adults discussing the future of our country and our families.

Perhaps my facts were wrong, perhaps someone else's were. Perhaps you realize our facts were correct but you disagree with the conclusions we deduct from them. If so, enlighten us!

Right now, your lack of logical responses just reinforce what most of us already believe. If you want to anger a Conservative or Libertarian, lie to them. If you want to anger a modern Liberal, tell them the truth.
Frye, the laughing about the rapist has been debunked on here many times.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/



That is a rational reply. Thank you.
No problem.  cooldude We agree on many things. Believe me I have no love for Hillary Clinton, but I hate to see outright lies about anyone. She has done plenty that can be exploited without making stuff up. ( I'm not saying you made it up) Someone, somewhere did though.


I read it, I won't say I agree or believe it entirety but I did read it and I truly do appreciate the rational reply. We need more of that, not just here (VRCC) but "country wide".  cooldude
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« Reply #79 on: August 28, 2016, 06:32:41 PM »

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