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Evidently evidence of Melania Trumps illegal status has surfaced. https://apnews.com/37dc7aef0ce44077930b7436be7bfd0dOn a separate note. She gave a campaign speech the other day, citing that if she becomes First Lady she would work against bullying, derogatory language, over our social media. Do these people even know each other ? Do they talk to each other ?
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2016, 07:56:44 PM » |
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Saw the thread title and thought maybe Hillary had wised up to Bill's ways. Guess not.
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She became a citizen so I would say she is not Illegal but may have worked a few days prior to receiving a work Visa. Pretty thin lame attempt by the media of an attack I would say  But hey I say revoke her citizenship and deport her right behind the Millions of undocumented Illegals here and the refugees that have been brought over 
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2016, 10:51:58 PM » |
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WOW THAT MUCH MONEY AND THAT LONG ILLEGAL  I AM APPAULED. A Mexican is here 2 days making $3.25 an hour and the Donald is "get em outta here" Kind of hypocritical no ? (Appalled)
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2016, 10:57:26 PM » |
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WOW THAT MUCH MONEY AND THAT LONG ILLEGAL  I AM APPAULED. A Mexican is here 2 days making $3.25 an hour and the Donald is "get me outta here" Kind of hypocritical no ? (Appalled) 12 million illegals at last count I heard. Probably many more than that. But, as to the original complaint in reference to Mrs. Trump. OK Do what ever they do for such violations. I have no issue with that. While you're at it though, shouldn't you also be working to reject the DOJ influence of the FBI investigation of Hillary's email. Please don't try to insist that there is no political influence going on.
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WOW THAT MUCH MONEY AND THAT LONG ILLEGAL  I AM APPAULED. A Mexican is here 2 days making $3.25 an hour and the Donald is "get me outta here" Kind of hypocritical no ? (Appalled) 12 million illegals at last count I heard. Probably many more than that. But, as to the original complaint in reference to Mrs. Trump. OK Do what ever they do for such violations. I have no issue with that. While you're at it though, shouldn't you also be working to reject the DOJ influence of the FBI investigation of Hillary's email. Please don't try to insist that there is no political influence going on. How do you equate illegal immigrants with Clinton's email ?
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Well, while you're touting illegal acts, I figured you'd want to cover all the bases.  Considering the criminal activity and it's importance to national security, one is somewhat more important than the other. That doesn't diminish the lessor act though. So, put your effort where ever you feel it is best suited. Honestly, I almost didn't respond. Just thought you'd be disappointed if no one responded to you stirring the pot. Pretty sure all minds are made up at this point. Mrs. Trump's modeling won't change anyone's vote for or against her husband. Has Bill's past changed anyone's vote for or against Hillary?
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2016, 11:19:23 PM » |
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Well, while you're touting illegal acts, I figured you'd want to cover all the bases.  Considering the criminal activity and it's importance to national security, one is somewhat more important than the other. That doesn't diminish the lessor act though. So, put your effort where ever you feel it is best suited. Honestly, I almost didn't respond. Just thought you'd be disappointed if no one responded to you stirring the pot. Pretty sure all minds are made up at this point. Mrs. Trump's modeling won't change anyone's vote for or against her husband. Has Bill's past changed anyone's vote for or against Hillary? Wasn't really trying to change anyone's mind. Just pointing out some hypocrisy . What you do with the info is up to you.
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2016, 11:22:14 PM » |
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Well, while you're touting illegal acts, I figured you'd want to cover all the bases.  Considering the criminal activity and it's importance to national security, one is somewhat more important than the other. That doesn't diminish the lessor act though. So, put your effort where ever you feel it is best suited. Honestly, I almost didn't respond. Just thought you'd be disappointed if no one responded to you stirring the pot. Pretty sure all minds are made up at this point. Mrs. Trump's modeling won't change anyone's vote for or against her husband. Has Bill's past changed anyone's vote for or against Hillary? Wasn't really trying to change anyone's mind. Just pointing out some hypocrisy . What you do with the info is up to you. OK, I think I'll go get some sleep. Be safe out there.
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Wasn't really trying to change anyone's mind. Just pointing out some hypocrisy . What you do with the info is up to you.
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WOW THAT MUCH MONEY AND THAT LONG ILLEGAL  I AM APPAULED. A Mexican is here 2 days making $3.25 an hour and the Donald is "get me outta here" Kind of hypocritical no ? (Appalled) No. Mr. Trump wants to deport the Illegal Mexican that is here for 2 days making $3.25 an hour, rapes 5 women, robs 2 banks, T-bones a school bus while in a drunken stupor killing innocent kids. Trey Gowdy had a hearing where he laid it out pretty well. There isn't just a single standard that needs to be applied. But bottom line is the law must be enforced.
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Whoa, didn't expect this amount of deflection.  No opinions on her illegal status ? But she is not Illegal.  so there can't be any opinions about it
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Whoa, didn't expect this amount of deflection.  No opinions on her illegal status ? wow u are the perfect person, never broke a law, never sinned, NEVER EVER ride your Valkyrie over the posted speed limit. its amazing u ignore ALL of the information and evidence that obama was never legal to run for president, such as his white mother was illegal to give him citizenship, this is the law. http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-not-a-citizen-thanks-to-his-own-mother/”When one parent was a U.S. citizen and the other a foreign national, the U.S. citizen parent must have resided in the U.S. for a total of 10 years prior to birth of the child with FIVE of the years after the age of 14.” Stanley Ann Dunham did not meet requisite status according to blog discovery. One commenter said, “She was not old enough to register Obama’s birth in Hawaii or anywhere else in the U.S. as a Natural Born Citizen as she did not meet the residency requirements! Backing this statement up, another commenter reiterates:” The law specifically outlines the requirements for a CITIZEN mother to confer citizenship to her baby. Ann Dunham was NOT old enough-case closed!” Liberalism is a mental disorder book by Savage https://www.amazon.com/Liberalism-Mental-Disorder-Savage-Solutions/dp/1595550437
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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2016, 06:49:37 AM » |
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7 weeks illegal. 10 jobs, $20,000. Nothing will happen though. They have money.
What were Bill and Hillary paid for their speaking events? Oh, yeah,they are here legally. Melania Trump was just doing work Americans didn't want to do.
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At least she made the effort and became a legal citizen. I don't see her out there flying our Flag upside down or burning it or stepping on it and demanding we do more for the ILLEGALS. She also does not identify herself as a Slovenian American.....just an American. Something that we all should start doing no matter the race or heritage. As far as going after bullying goes. Let her get into the White House and get going on projects. Am sure that "cause" will morph into something a bit more relevant or doable.
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At least she made the effort and became a legal citizen. I don't see her out there flying our Flag upside down or burning it or stepping on it and demanding we do more for the ILLEGALS. She also does not identify herself as a Slovenian American.....just an American. Something that we all should start doing no matter the race or heritage. As far as going after bullying goes. Let her get into the White House and get going on projects. Am sure that "cause" will morph into something a bit more relevant or doable.
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Whoa, didn't expect this amount of deflection.  No opinions on her illegal status ? wow u are the perfect person, never broke a law, never sinned, NEVER EVER ride your Valkyrie over the posted speed limit. its amazing u ignore ALL of the information and evidence that obama was never legal to run for president, such as his white mother was illegal to give him citizenship, this is the law. http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-not-a-citizen-thanks-to-his-own-mother/”When one parent was a U.S. citizen and the other a foreign national, the U.S. citizen parent must have resided in the U.S. for a total of 10 years prior to birth of the child with FIVE of the years after the age of 14.” Stanley Ann Dunham did not meet requisite status according to blog discovery. One commenter said, “She was not old enough to register Obama’s birth in Hawaii or anywhere else in the U.S. as a Natural Born Citizen as she did not meet the residency requirements! Backing this statement up, another commenter reiterates:” The law specifically outlines the requirements for a CITIZEN mother to confer citizenship to her baby. Ann Dunham was NOT old enough-case closed!” Liberalism is a mental disorder book by Savage https://www.amazon.com/Liberalism-Mental-Disorder-Savage-Solutions/dp/1595550437Wow......just...wow.....
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7 weeks illegal. 10 jobs, $20,000. Nothing will happen though. They have money.
As opposed to 40 or 50 years illegal and many people dead because of her amoral ethics. Not to mention National Security Risks, the extent of which is not even fully known as we type. Ya, Trump isint perfect but compared to HRC he looks like an Eagle Scout.
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7 weeks illegal. 10 jobs, $20,000. Nothing will happen though. They have money.
OK, if she was here 7 weeks illegal, at least she worked and made her own way. She did not demand that the government pay for her food, apartment, education and health care. 20 grand is a frigging pittance compared to what WE are asked to pay for all the rest of the illegals that libs are so proud of. At least she was working on becoming legal at the time. Bring us a real problem next time.
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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2016, 08:50:08 AM » |
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7 weeks illegal. 10 jobs, $20,000. Nothing will happen though. They have money.
OK, if she was here 7 weeks illegal, at least she worked and made her own way. She did not demand that the government pay for her food, apartment, education and health care. 20 grand is a frigging pittance compared to what WE are asked to pay for all the rest of the illegals that libs are so proud of. At least she was working on becoming legal at the time. Bring us a real problem next time. Hey, this is your candidates main issue.  And herein lies one our biggest problems. NOBODY can admit ANYTHING. Clinton wouldn't admit for months that she did anything wrong with the Servor. Trump won't admit anything. It's a simple thing for them to come out and say "yes she worked modeling for 7 weeks before she should have. If they would have done that 4 months ago the story would be nothing. But yet NOBODY can just say "I was wrong"
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Geez, $20,000 for working seven weeks. If she was modeling I guess I chose the wrong vocation. Where can I pick up some part time modeling gigs, I need some Christmas money.  PS: Hope they aren't nudies, as the old song says: "I don't look good naked anymore!" (or ever)  (nobody expected me to take this post serious did they?) 
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Whoa, didn't expect this amount of deflection.  No opinions on her illegal status ? What illegal status? Don't you know they don't like to be called that? It's undocumented. I'm surprised you would use a politically incorrect term like illegal.
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It was an especially dumbass comparison. A model who has become a U.S. citizen who worked seven weeks before actually obtaining the legal permit to people who sneak across the border with no real intention of becoming citizens.
If she did earn the $20,000 in an illegal status (how long ago?) perhaps after proper charging and trial the government should take away that $20,000.
Hypocrisy? No, I don't think so. Some will simply choose to see it in almost anything about the person they oppose.
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It was an especially dumbass comparison. A model who has become a U.S. citizen who worked seven weeks before actually obtaining the legal permit to people who sneak across the border with no real intention of becoming citizens.
If she did earn the $20,000 in an illegal status (how long ago?) perhaps after proper charging and trial the government should take away that $20,000.
Hypocrisy? No, I don't think so. Some will simply choose to see it in almost anything about the person they oppose.
By the way, most of us have ancestors who wee illegal immigrants. The American Indian nations to my knowledge didn't issue any work visas.
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Whoa, didn't expect this amount of deflection.  No opinions on her illegal status ? What illegal status? Don't you know they don't like to be called that? It's undocumented. I'm surprised you would use a politically incorrect term like illegal. I've always called them illegal aliens. That's what they are. Politically correctness is not my thing.
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Breaking the law is still breaking the law. It's only ironic because of the stance he has taken.
So I guess we should take this stand on Hillary too, that she broke the law. If not, then by default Trumps stance has nothing to do about it. I'm sure since they had trouble prosecuting Hillary because of intent, I'm sure Melina did not intend to break the law, so this is a non issue only put out there to stir the pot.
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Breaking the law is still breaking the law. It's only ironic because of the stance he has taken.
So I guess we should take this stand on Hillary too. So stance has nothing to do about it. I'm sure since they had trouble prosecuting Hillary because of intent, I'm sure Melina did not intend to break the law, so this is a non issue. Funny how logic can work aint it 
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Breaking the law is still breaking the law. It's only ironic because of the stance he has taken.
Twenty years ago what was alleged and she has been a citizen for ten years. According to the story written those allegations have not been confirmed and was denied. The allegation was that she worked before she actually received a work visa. She did get a work visa and she did intend to become and did become an American according to the story. We compare that to someone who has slipped across the border illegally and continually worked, often paid cash under the table and has no intention of pursuing the path to American citizenship. It's a desperate stretch. You suggested possible deportation? That would involve revoking her U.S. citizenship. The story specifically says that would be done only in the most egregious cases of misrepresentation of the application. Breaking the law is still breaking the law? I break the law on a regular basis. A report I read once actually claimed that any U.S. citizen could be charged with legal violations, averaging five or six, at any time. I acknowledge that I break the law at least three times every day. Does that mean I can't take the stand that those who enter and reside in the U.S. illegally should be expelled?
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Breaking the law is still breaking the law. It's only ironic because of the stance he has taken.
Twenty years ago what was alleged and she has been a citizen for ten years. According to the story written those allegations have not been confirmed and was denied. The allegation was that she worked before she actually received a work visa. She did get a work visa and she did intend to become and did become an American according to the story. We compare that to someone who has slipped across the border illegally and continually worked, often paid cash under the table and has no intention of pursuing the path to American citizenship. It's a desperate stretch. You suggested possible deportation? That would involve revoking her U.S. citizenship. The story specifically says that would be done only in the most egregious cases of misrepresentation of the application. Breaking the law is still breaking the law? I break the law on a regular basis. A report I read once actually claimed that any U.S. citizen could be charged with legal violations, averaging five or six, at any time. I acknowledge that I break the law at least three times every day. Does that mean I can't take the stand that those who enter and reside in the U.S. illegally should be expelled? No, that means you can't claim people who go over the speed limit should be thrown in jail. At least with a straight face you can't. I would have thought you would understand the title was facetious. Or at least partly. I do expect the denial. 
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I see no one denying anything Meathead. No one here said she didn't work early. Like I said revoke send her back and take the $20k back right after they round up all the illegals that are here, she wanted to and became a citizen and isn't robbing murdering or raping and sneaking more and more here every day. I find your side of this thing absolutely Hilairious.  I was referring to the Donald. I doubt he will divorce or deport. I hope I am surprised about the denial. (Hilarious) 
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Evidently evidence of Melania Trumps illegal status has surfaced. https://apnews.com/37dc7aef0ce44077930b7436be7bfd0dOn a separate note. She gave a campaign speech the other day, citing that if she becomes First Lady she would work against bullying, derogatory language, over our social media. Do these people even know each other ? Do they talk to each other ? As per the article, Mrs. Trump was here legally. On a visitor visa. The issue isn't that she was in the country illegally but that she was not authorized to work as this requires a work visa. I am not sure what comparison you are trying to make here. If there are consequences to her unauthorized employment I don't believe anyone, including Mr. and Mrs. Trump would be adverse to paying and owning up to whatever would be required. It's just that I'm not exactly sure what would be required if anything at all. She wasn't here, at any time, unlawfully. The only question is her unauthorized employment at the time due to lacking a proper visa. She followed the law, followed the steps and became a U.S. Citizen. Where is the crisis here?
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