Alright, who screwed up,

[Bighead]

DIRT ?...........

Shoveling ?..........

Go on

 

Dan

Was just saying he will believe it with zero proof until they start throwing dirt on his grave.

[Pete]

Perhaps denial of reality? It is a feature in political party;s and political animals. And is considered an asset in the Deep State. Otherwise nothing makes sense to them.

[3fan4life]

...
 I would imagine all of us have some limit to what we feel is appropriate absolving of past crimes or sins. I doubt you would be ok with a previous child molestor who has changed the error of his ways currently to become a Supreme Court Justice. But I could be wrong.

Child molester?  We're talking about something that allegedly transpired between a 17 year old and a fifteen year old.  You and others have extrapolated the accusation into much more than the accuser described.

You would be wrong in  this case.

It was an example of one's current character not being all that matters. A persons past matters also. It was not ascribed to the current nominee.

While I don't believe the accuser, let's say she's telling the truth.

1). They were both juveniles at the time.

       a) Meaning that neither of them was old enough to legally consent to sex.
       b) If charges had been brought at the time and a conviction obtained. The record would've more than likely have been
           seal and then later expunged.
       c) There is a reason that our society as a whole judges juveniles by a different standard than adults. It is widely
           accepted that juveniles will ocaisionally run amuck of the law and that they should be given a chance to turn their
           lives around rather than have a mistake ruin the rest of their life.

2).  More than 100 women have come forward to defend his character.

        a) If it did happen, it was obviously a one time event comitted by a juvenile under the influence of alchohol.
        b) The sheer number of women that are clamoring to his defense speaks volumes about what his character IS and
             was for that matter as many of those women knew and dated him around the time that the alleged offense took
             place.
        c) If his character were flawed, there would be other women coming forward to make accusations of sexual
            impropriety.

3).  The accusation is extremely weak.

         a) The accuser cannot remember, when and where it took place.
         b)  She didn't tell anyone about the incident at the time, Not even her BFF.
         c)  The accusation was only brought to light when it became apparent to the opposition that his appointment would
               most likely succeed.   



After some thought to the matter I have developed a theory.

If the incident did take place and she is correct about who was there.

I believe that the roles were reversed.

This PJ guy was the one who attacked her and Kavanaugh was the one who intervened and stopped the attack.

Of course, her "Remembering" it like this would do nothing to block or delay Kavanaugh's appointment.

[Jersey mike]

So apparently our Senator from NJ Cory Booker was no saint either in his youth.

https://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2018/09/cory_bookers_lost_youth_it_looks_like_spartacus_ha.html

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/20/bookers-push-for-kavanaugh-vote-delay-called-out-over-his-1992-column-detailing-teenage-groping.html

[¿spoom]

So apparently our Senator from NJ Cory Booker was no saint either in his youth.

https://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2018/09/cory_bookers_lost_youth_it_looks_like_spartacus_ha.html

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/20/bookers-push-for-kavanaugh-vote-delay-called-out-over-his-1992-column-detailing-teenage-groping.html

Doesn't count, protected species, (Democrat) nothing to see here.

[Serk]

And from Booker's own website:

"Studies of youth brain development have found that the decision-making functions of the brain do not fully develop until much later than was previously believed to be the case. Despite this, some states still try 17-, and even 16,-year-olds as adults by default. The REDEEM Act incentivizes states to establish 18 years old as a floor for original jurisdiction by adult criminal courts by allowing preference to be given to Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) grant applications that originate from states that have enacted similar or stronger provisions."

I.E. 17 year olds are too immature to be responsible for their own actions.

Source - https://www.booker.senate.gov/?p=general&id=33

[f6john]

I’m sure Corey will be coming to Bruce’s defense any second now,,,,,,, wait for it,,,,,,

[f6john]

Just in. Now Mrs. Ford says she will testify next week not Monday. Still working out the details!

[Serk]

Just in. Now Mrs. Ford says she will testify next week not Monday. Still working out the details!

Delay, delay, delay....

[..]

Two of the women who corroborated her story have now recanted.

SURPRISE!

[..]

Before the whingers start whinging

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/20/649787076/kavanaugh-accuser-classmate-that-it-happened-or-not-i-have-no-idea

[Savago]

Quote: "Dr. Blasey Ford's experience is all too consistent with stories we heard and lived while attending Holton. Many of us are survivors ourselves. ".

https://www.standwithblaseyford.com/

Probably all those 1039 women are 'mixed-up'.

[Savago]

And some of her former classmates:
https://www.standwithblaseyford.com/class-of-1984

Quote: "We, of the Holton Arms Class of 1984, are writing on behalf of our friend and classmate, Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, to attest to her honesty, integrity, and intelligence; and to contend that her decision to provide information pertaining to a sexual assault is not a partisan act. It is an act of civic duty and the experience she described in her letter needs to be seriously considered. We represent all political parties and we support Christine bringing this matter forward."

[Serk]

Quote: "Dr. Blasey Ford's experience is all too consistent with stories we heard and lived while attending Holton. Many of us are survivors ourselves. ".

https://www.standwithblaseyford.com/

Probably all those 1039 women are 'mixed-up'.

So ya'll don't like that he believes in the constitution, so that means he raped 1039 women....

Got it.

It'll be a wonder if anyone ever agrees to stand for public appointment ever again after the ridiculous circus this man is being put through.

[Savago]

So ya'll don't like that he believes in the constitution, so that means he raped 1039 women....

Sorry, but this sentence makes no sense.

[Willow]

So ya'll don't like that he believes in the constitution, so that means he raped 1039 women....

Sorry, but this sentence makes no sense.

Let me help you out.

In his own sarcastic way the Serk was pointing out that you have a list of women stating they are willing to condemn the Justice without a single, without one, without any witnesses to the accusation.  

What would make sense to you?  

[Pete]

And some of her former classmates:
https://www.standwithblaseyford.com/class-of-1984

Quote: "We, of the Holton Arms Class of 1984, are writing on behalf of our friend and classmate, Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, to attest to her honesty, integrity, and intelligence; and to contend that her decision to provide information pertaining to a sexual assault is not a partisan act. It is an act of civic duty and the experience she described in her letter needs to be seriously considered. We represent all political parties and we support Christine bringing this matter forward."

As fast as she is shooting herself in the foot, her friends may have a rough time keeping up.

[¿spoom]

 Feinstein’s handling of Kavanaugh accusation has made our politics even uglier: 

By Jonah Goldberg Tribune News Service
 5 hrs ago

There are very few things I’m sure of in the latest, and worst, chapter in the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation saga.

It’s like a “Choose Your Own Adventure” book in which every chapter ends with a thud at the bottom of an old well or the clanking shut of a dungeon door.

What if Christine Blasey Ford is telling the truth that, 36 years ago, a drunken 17-year-old Brett Kavanaugh pushed her down on a bed and covered her mouth in an attempt to sexually assault her?









For starters, she’ll never get justice. This will never see a court of law. There’s no way to prove it happened, not least because she cannot provide a time or place where the event allegedly occurred. The most Ford might get is vengeance by thwarting Kavanaugh’s dream of getting on the Supreme Court and destroying his reputation.

But what if her claim is only subjectively true? What if she believed that Kavanaugh intended her terrible harm, but he had no such intent, simply thinking he was being funny, flirtatious, manly or some other dumb idea drunk 17-year-old jocks sometimes have?

And what if the truth is somewhere in the middle? Do the actions, as described, tell us an enormous amount about the husband, father and judge? The man has been through six FBI background checks. No one has ever unearthed similar incidents, never mind a pattern of them. If anything, the well-documented patterns of his life and career suggest that the Kavanaugh of Ford’s memory is not the Kavanaugh he became — or perhaps ever was.

For the last decade or so, there’s been a growing argument for going much easier on young men who run afoul of the law because our brains aren’t fully developed until our mid-20s. Would it be fair to let this one event, if remotely true, eclipse everything else?

On the other hand, if Kavanaugh is lying when he denies all this, that would be bad, too.

Moreover, no one is talking about prosecuting Kavanaugh. He has no entitlement to a seat on the highest court in the land. If he did what Ford claims he did, not being a Supreme Court justice is a pretty light sentence.

What if Ford isn’t telling the truth? If it’s a deliberate lie, the answer is easy: This is one of the worst acts of character assassination and sewer politics in modern American history, and anyone involved should be held to account by the law and voters alike. All one need do is look under the rock of social media to see countless people insisting that Kavanaugh is a proven rapist or attempted rapist. If he’s innocent, that is horrific.

But what if it’s not a deliberate lie? What if this is some terrible Rashomon-like confusion? Perhaps the events happened but Kavanaugh wasn’t the person involved. Or perhaps something did happen, but not the way she remembers. Ford never said anything specific about these events until 2012, when she was in couples therapy (and Kavanaugh’s name was in the news), and the details she offered then differ from what she is saying now.

I have no idea how to reach a confident conclusion about any of this. There are just way too many missing jigsaw puzzle pieces to make out the picture.












The only thing I am sure of now is that Sen. Dianne Feinstein has behaved outrageously. Because no matter what you choose to believe, she waited too long to reveal the accusation.

Feinstein knew about these allegations in July. She made no attempt to ask Kavanaugh about them, even in closed session. If she believed the allegations were true or credible, she should have acted on them. If she didn’t — as has been reported — going public as a desperate ploy to derail or delay his confirmation is an act of grotesque cynicism, particularly when she had no idea whether Kavanaugh’s accuser would come forward.

Feinstein’s gambit may pay off. Republicans are understandably wary of cross-examining an alleged victim of sexual assault, particularly ahead of the midterms, given that the GOP is bleeding support among moderate female voters.

But the conservative base also remembers the slander of Judge Robert Bork and has no appetite to surrender to such tactics ever again. If the White House or Senate Republicans do surrender, the populist rage from the right will be terrifying.

So congratulations, Sen. Feinstein, you’ve done the unimaginable: You’ve made our politics even uglier.

[Skinhead]

And some of her former classmates:
https://www.standwithblaseyford.com/class-of-1984

Quote: "We, of the Holton Arms Class of 1984, are writing on behalf of our friend and classmate, Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, to attest to her honesty, integrity, and intelligence; and to contend that her decision to provide information pertaining to a sexual assault is not a partisan act. It is an act of civic duty and the experience she described in her letter needs to be seriously considered. We represent all political parties and we support Christine bringing this matter forward."

I assume there is a list of signatures to go with this letter?  The entire class, as that is how it is written?

[Jess from VA]

The incident DID happen, many of us heard about it in school...

In my [Facebook] post, I was empowered, and I was sure it probably did [happen],.....

Empowered by what?  Coffee, delusions, a chance to be part of the witch hunt/circus?

So what do you KNOW?  Not a GD thing!!

Senator Lindsey Graham was as fine a cross examiner as I've ever seen.  Whether any Senator will unleash the dogs on this accuser is a good question.  She's certainly earned the grilling of a lifetime.  Especially when that testimony will likely consist of a hundred answers of.... I don't know, I can't remember, it's possible, and boo hoo hoo why are you people being so mean to me?  
 

They need a week of practice and preparation.  They'd like a month.

 

[..]

I have just three words.

We Are Doomed.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/20/brett-kavanaugh-wife-and-christine-blasey-ford-all-receiving-death-threats-graphic-language.html

[Bighead]

Lets see, they only posted what the Dems sent to his wife. Nothing that supports sent to Ford? Why?

[Gavin_Sons]

Quote: "Dr. Blasey Ford's experience is all too consistent with stories we heard and lived while attending Holton. Many of us are survivors ourselves. ".

https://www.standwithblaseyford.com/

Probably all those 1039 women are 'mixed-up'.

I'm sure 1039 women kept in close contact to this Ford lady. 

[3fan4life]

I have just three words.

We Are Doomed.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/20/brett-kavanaugh-wife-and-christine-blasey-ford-all-receiving-death-threats-graphic-language.html

From the article:

 
"F--K YOU, RAPE ENABLING C--T. YOUR HUSBAND IS A LIAR, THIEF, RAPIST AND PROBABLY A PEDOPHILE. BURN IN HELL YOU WORTHLESS F-----G C--T," the email stated. "MAY YOU, YOUR HUSBAND AND YOUR KIDS BURN IN HELL YOU F-----G PIECES OF TRASH. EAAAAATTTTT S-----------T!!!!!!!!!!"

And here I thought that Liberals considered themselves to be "Sensitive" and "Enlightened".

I guess that this blows that theory out of the water.

[G-Man]

Best soap opera on TV.

Can't wait to get back to the Russia story line.  I hear they are releasing the "spying on a private citizen's presidential campaign" warrant request. 

And, true to form, the opposition say's the fallout will be catastrophic.

And in my favorite story line.... We never get tired of being wrong......  The market is UP 3,000 points since they said the sky would fall and people will die due to the Trade Wars Trump was starting.

Next time, on As The Swamp Turns.   

[3fan4life]

Quote: "Dr. Blasey Ford's experience is all too consistent with stories we heard and lived while attending Holton. Many of us are survivors ourselves. ".

https://www.standwithblaseyford.com/

Probably all those 1039 women are 'mixed-up'.

So if this place was "Party Central" and had such a reputation for sexual attacks, Why on earth did these girls keep going there?

It just doesn't make sense that they would continually put theirselves into harms way.



This was the 80's, could be possible that they were there for the booze and cocaine, and were willing to write off the risk?  

[G-Man]

Quote: "Dr. Blasey Ford's experience is all too consistent with stories we heard and lived while attending Holton. Many of us are survivors ourselves. ".

https://www.standwithblaseyford.com/

Probably all those 1039 women are 'mixed-up'.

So if this place was "Party Central" and had such a reputation for sexual attacks, Why on earth did these girls keep going there?

It just doesn't make sense that they would continually put theirselves into harms way.



This was the 80's, could be possible that they were there for the booze and cocaine, and were willing to write off the risk?  

Because now, going for 2nd too quickly counts as sexual misconduct.

The above would probably get me slapped by any woman in my life, but...........  We live in VERRRRRRY different times.

[Willow]

I have just three words.

We Are Doomed.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/20/brett-kavanaugh-wife-and-christine-blasey-ford-all-receiving-death-threats-graphic-language.html

From the article:

 
"F--K YOU, RAPE ENABLING C--T. YOUR HUSBAND IS A LIAR, THIEF, RAPIST AND PROBABLY A PEDOPHILE. BURN IN HELL YOU WORTHLESS F-----G C--T," the email stated. "MAY YOU, YOUR HUSBAND AND YOUR KIDS BURN IN HELL YOU F-----G PIECES OF TRASH. EAAAAATTTTT S-----------T!!!!!!!!!!"

And here I thought that Liberals considered themselves to be "Sensitive" and "Enlightened".

I guess that this blows that theory out of the water.

All to often on this board we attribute anything said by a conservative to all conservatives and anything said by a liberal to all liberals.  We must be careful not to do that.  Hmmm, we don't seem to do that with libertarians.  There are certainly evil people in the ranks of almost every political grouping.

I read what he (or she) emailed and can only assume that person is on the road to where he (or she) hopes to meet up with the Kavanaugh family.  I fear that person may be in for a disappointment.

Let's you and I not do what too many others do.  

[G-Man]

[f6john]

I have just three words.

We Are Doomed.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/20/brett-kavanaugh-wife-and-christine-blasey-ford-all-receiving-death-threats-graphic-language.html

From the article:

 
"F--K YOU, RAPE ENABLING C--T. YOUR HUSBAND IS A LIAR, THIEF, RAPIST AND PROBABLY A PEDOPHILE. BURN IN HELL YOU WORTHLESS F-----G C--T," the email stated. "MAY YOU, YOUR HUSBAND AND YOUR KIDS BURN IN HELL YOU F-----G PIECES OF TRASH. EAAAAATTTTT S-----------T!!!!!!!!!!"

And here I thought that Liberals considered themselves to be "Sensitive" and "Enlightened".

I guess that this blows that theory out of the water.

All to often on this board we attribute anything said by a conservative to all conservatives and anything said by a liberal to all liberals.  We must be careful not to do that.  Hmmm, we don't seem to do that with libertarians.  There are certainly evil people in the ranks of almost every political grouping.

I read what he (or she) emailed and can only assume that person is on the road to where he (or she) hopes to meet up with the Kavanaugh family.  I fear that person may be in for a disappointment.

Let's you and I not do what too many others do.  

Much like the Muslim Islamic faith. I guess as a group, they are good people and are not jihadist by nature or inclination. The problem I have with Islam and Democrats among others. Is that they are so silent about the behavior being exhibited and the lack of condemnation of those who practice these tactics. It starts with the leadership and should carry on thru the broader membership of groups who have bad actors. It seems they enjoy having someone do their dirty work while maintaining some distance.

[Willow]

All to often on this board we attribute anything said by a conservative to all conservatives and anything said by a liberal to all liberals.  We must be careful not to do that.  Hmmm, we don't seem to do that with libertarians.  There are certainly evil people in the ranks of almost every political grouping.

I read what he (or she) emailed and can only assume that person is on the road to where he (or she) hopes to meet up with the Kavanaugh family.  I fear that person may be in for a disappointment.

Let's you and I not do what too many others do.  

Much like the Muslim Islamic faith. I guess as a group, they are good people and are not jihadist by nature or inclination. The problem I have with Islam and Democrats among others. Is that they are so silent about the behavior being exhibited and the lack of condemnation of those who practice these tactics. It starts with the leadership and should carry on thru the broader membership of groups who have bad actors. It seems they enjoy having someone do their dirty work while maintaining some distance.

Please don't do that.  The difference is that muslims have a book which defines their expected behavior.  I find ridiculous the media use of the term muslim extremist.  Muslims are by definition extremists.  It's just that some have the commitment to live up more completely to what the book demands but they all agree and support.  There are, of course, within muslim environments those who are social muslims without true commitment to Islam but they are not a majority.

[baldo]

I have just three words.

We Are Doomed.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/20/brett-kavanaugh-wife-and-christine-blasey-ford-all-receiving-death-threats-graphic-language.html

From the article:

 
"F--K YOU, RAPE ENABLING C--T. YOUR HUSBAND IS A LIAR, THIEF, RAPIST AND PROBABLY A PEDOPHILE. BURN IN HELL YOU WORTHLESS F-----G C--T," the email stated. "MAY YOU, YOUR HUSBAND AND YOUR KIDS BURN IN HELL YOU F-----G PIECES OF TRASH. EAAAAATTTTT S-----------T!!!!!!!!!!"

And here I thought that Liberals considered themselves to be "Sensitive" and "Enlightened".

I guess that this blows that theory out of the water.

Let's not climb too high onto a pedestal here. I can only imagine what she's been going through. I don't think Kavanaugh has had to go into hiding yet.

[baldo]

Much like the Muslim Islamic faith. I guess as a group, they are good people and are not jihadist by nature or inclination. The problem I have with Islam and Democrats among others. Is that they are so silent about the behavior being exhibited and the lack of condemnation of those who practice these tactics. It starts with the leadership and should carry on thru the broader membership of groups who have bad actors. It seems they enjoy having someone do their dirty work while maintaining some distance.

Are you serious? Your words exactly describe what is going on right now with trump and the republican party. They couldn't care less what kind of bullshit he pulls, as long as they get their tax cuts and seats on the courts. Give me a break.

[MAD6Gun]

Much like the Muslim Islamic faith. I guess as a group, they are good people and are not jihadist by nature or inclination. The problem I have with Islam and Democrats among others. Is that they are so silent about the behavior being exhibited and the lack of condemnation of those who practice these tactics. It starts with the leadership and should carry on thru the broader membership of groups who have bad actors. It seems they enjoy having someone do their dirty work while maintaining some distance.

Are you serious? Your words exactly describe what is going on right now with trump and the republican party. They couldn't care less what kind of bullshit he pulls, as long as they get their tax cuts and seats on the courts. Give me a break.

 Give me a break. What bullshit are you referring to. The fantastic economy, the people that he is putting back to work,building the wall or finally putting America first. Not to mention the thousands of people that come to his rallies.

 All the dems have is take away the tax breaks we all got,abolish ICE and just let everyone in,free healthcare,free college oh and impeach Trump. Did I miss anything?

 What about the bullshit the dems have pulled and are still pulling today. You don't find it convenient that in the last days of his hearings some women comes forward to accuse him with something that happened 36 years ago with zero evidence to back it up? Something stinks and the dems are the cause. You liberals condemned multiple women years ago that came forward against Bill Clinton but want to believe ONE women now. I don't believe her for one second.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Of course you don’t believe her. Us liberals condemned all the women who came forward against Bill Clinton ? I sure don’t remember doing that. People are getting jobs building “the Wall” ? I didn’t realize that. How come Trump keeps bitching that they won’t fund the wall that Mexico is paying for ?

[Serk]

Of course you don’t believe her. Us liberals condemned all the women who came forward against Bill Clinton ? I sure don’t remember doing that. People are getting jobs building “the Wall” ? I didn’t realize that. How come Trump keeps bitching that they won’t fund the wall that Mexico is paying for ?

Hillary did...

"she embraced the Clinton campaign’s aggressive strategy of counterattack: Women who claimed to have had sexual encounters with Mr. Clinton would become targets of digging and discrediting — tactics that women’s rights advocates frequently denounce.

The campaign hired a private investigator with a bare-knuckles reputation who embarked on a mission, as he put it in a memo, to impugn Ms. Flowers’s “character and veracity until she is destroyed beyond all recognition.”

In a pattern that would later be repeated with other women, the investigator’s staff scoured Arkansas and beyond, collecting disparaging accounts from ex-boyfriends, employers and others who claimed to know Ms. Flowers, accounts that the campaign then disseminated to the news media.

By the time Mr. Clinton finally admitted to “sexual relations” with Ms. Flowers, years later, Clinton aides had used stories collected by the private investigator to brand her as a “bimbo” and a “pathological liar.”"


Source - https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/us/politics/hillary-bill-clinton-women.html


Also, in Mr. Gun's reply, "people getting jobs" and "building the wall" were two separate items, or at least it appeared that way to me. The current official unemployment rate of 3.9% would seem to back up the veracity of the first claim at least.

[f6john]

I stand corrected. I don’t personally know any Muslims and I have not read the Koran. I may have assumed to much, sorry for the poor comparison. I stand by the balance of my statement. Any time I get a response from baldo I know I have struck a nerve. That’s worth something.

[f6john]

Of course you don’t believe her. Us liberals condemned all the women who came forward against Bill Clinton ? I sure don’t remember doing that. People are getting jobs building “the Wall” ? I didn’t realize that. How come Trump keeps bitching that they won’t fund the wall that Mexico is paying for ?

How are the liberals handling the abuse claims of the lady against Keith Ellison who is vice chair of the DNC and wants to be attorney general of Minnesota?

[The emperor has no clothes]

Of course you don’t believe her. Us liberals condemned all the women who came forward against Bill Clinton ? I sure don’t remember doing that. People are getting jobs building “the Wall” ? I didn’t realize that. How come Trump keeps bitching that they won’t fund the wall that Mexico is paying for ?

Hillary did...

"she embraced the Clinton campaign’s aggressive strategy of counterattack: Women who claimed to have had sexual encounters with Mr. Clinton would become targets of digging and discrediting — tactics that women’s rights advocates frequently denounce.

The campaign hired a private investigator with a bare-knuckles reputation who embarked on a mission, as he put it in a memo, to impugn Ms. Flowers’s “character and veracity until she is destroyed beyond all recognition.”

In a pattern that would later be repeated with other women, the investigator’s staff scoured Arkansas and beyond, collecting disparaging accounts from ex-boyfriends, employers and others who claimed to know Ms. Flowers, accounts that the campaign then disseminated to the news media.

By the time Mr. Clinton finally admitted to “sexual relations” with Ms. Flowers, years later, Clinton aides had used stories collected by the private investigator to brand her as a “bimbo” and a “pathological liar.”"


Source - https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/us/politics/hillary-bill-clinton-women.html


Also, in Mr. Gun's reply, "people getting jobs" and "building the wall" were two separate items, or at least it appeared that way to me. The current official unemployment rate of 3.9% would seem to back up the veracity of the first claim at least.

1) Hillary Clinton would be singular, not applicable to “you liberals “

2) it’s interesting how the employment rate was derided by most here during the Obama administration, now its held up as gospel.

3) veracity is not the word I would ascribe.

[Psychotic Bovine]

Of course you don’t believe her. Us liberals condemned all the women who came forward against Bill Clinton ? I sure don’t remember doing that. People are getting jobs building “the Wall” ? I didn’t realize that. How come Trump keeps bitching that they won’t fund the wall that Mexico is paying for ?

How are the liberals handling the abuse claims of the lady against Keith Ellison who is vice chair of the DNC and wants to be attorney general of Minnesota?

I am sure many are saying she had it coming.