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« Reply #200 on: September 23, 2018, 06:25:00 AM »

Yeah, investigations are always fair, we should always give the woman the benefit of the doubt in these situations.


Maybe “give them the benefit of doubt” would be an incorrect way of thinking about it. I prefer more the term “ don’t dismiss them out of hand”.  coolsmiley
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« Reply #201 on: September 23, 2018, 07:09:10 AM »

H/T to Unbiased America on Facebook, this is a copy pasta:

THE REAL REASON WHY KAVANAUGH ACCUSER FORD DOESN’T WANT TO TESTIFY UNTIL THURSDAY
By Kevin Ryan

Brett Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford have tentatively agreed to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday. The committee’s Republican leadership had been pushing for Monday or Wednesday, but Ford had rejected those dates from the start. Her insistence on waiting until Thursday is very revealing for one major reason.

That’s the day the committee had been scheduled to vote on Kavanaugh.

By choosing Thursday, Ford and her team of advisors will force yet another postponement of the Kavanaugh vote. And committee rules stipulate that a vote must be announced one week in advance. So it will now be all but impossible for Judge Kavanaugh to be confirmed in time for the October 1st opening day of the Supreme Court’s 2018-2019 term.

But a slight delay is not the real goal of Democrats. There is now a scenario emerging in which Democrats could not only stop Kavanaugh from being confirmed, but even stop President Trump from getting anyone confirmed.

A look at a few key upcoming dates reveals a path to blocking any Trump nominee:

• Sept. 27: The Senate Judiciary Committee is scheduled to vote on whether to recommend Kavanaugh to the Senate this upcoming Thursday. The vote had been scheduled for a week earlier, but was postponed by a week. Now that the Ford hearing will take place that day, it’s all but certain that the vote will be postponed by another week.

• Oct. 1: The Supreme Court’s 2018 session begins. Postponing the vote means Kavanaugh will not be confirmed in time to be on the court during its opening days. The court will have just 8 justices, with a 4 to 4 ideological tie.

• Nov. 6: Midterm congressional elections. Democrats just have to convince 2 Republicans to vote against Kavanaugh to defeat his confirmation. In that event, a new nominee will have to be announced, and the long confirmation process will start over. You can be absolutely certain that Democrats will campaign on stopping whoever Trump names.

• Jan. 3, 2019: The new Senate is sworn in. If Democrats manage to take control of the Senate, this is the date when the new Senate is sworn in, and Democrats would take over. If they’d managed to defeat Kavanaugh and delay or defeat the nominee to replace him by the time January 3rd comes around, it would be game over for Republicans. President Trump would now be forced to nominate someone that Democrats approved of. And they may actually demand he nominate a liberal, or else not vote on any nominee at all. It would be considered payback for the Republican refusal to vote on Merrick Garland in 2016, a vacancy eventually filled by Trump’s pick Neil Gorsuch. And there’s even talk that a Democratic Senate would hold out more than 2 years without voting on a Trump nominee in the hopes that a Democrat would win the White House in 2020.

But such a scenario all starts with another delay in the Senate Judiciary Committee’s upcoming Thursday vote on Brett Kavanaugh. A delay made possible by Christine Blasey Ford’s refusal to testify until Thursday.

SOURCES: https://www.wsj.com/…/ford-attorneys-seek-more-time-for-kav…
https://www.bloomberg.com/…/kavanaugh-accuser-agrees-to-mee…
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« Reply #202 on: September 23, 2018, 07:49:34 AM »

H/T to Unbiased America on Facebook, this is a copy pasta:

THE REAL REASON WHY KAVANAUGH ACCUSER FORD DOESN’T WANT TO TESTIFY UNTIL THURSDAY
By Kevin Ryan

Brett Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford have tentatively agreed to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday. The committee’s Republican leadership had been pushing for Monday or Wednesday, but Ford had rejected those dates from the start. Her insistence on waiting until Thursday is very revealing for one major reason.

That’s the day the committee had been scheduled to vote on Kavanaugh.

By choosing Thursday, Ford and her team of advisors will force yet another postponement of the Kavanaugh vote. And committee rules stipulate that a vote must be announced one week in advance. So it will now be all but impossible for Judge Kavanaugh to be confirmed in time for the October 1st opening day of the Supreme Court’s 2018-2019 term.

But a slight delay is not the real goal of Democrats. There is now a scenario emerging in which Democrats could not only stop Kavanaugh from being confirmed, but even stop President Trump from getting anyone confirmed.

A look at a few key upcoming dates reveals a path to blocking any Trump nominee:

• Sept. 27: The Senate Judiciary Committee is scheduled to vote on whether to recommend Kavanaugh to the Senate this upcoming Thursday. The vote had been scheduled for a week earlier, but was postponed by a week. Now that the Ford hearing will take place that day, it’s all but certain that the vote will be postponed by another week.

• Oct. 1: The Supreme Court’s 2018 session begins. Postponing the vote means Kavanaugh will not be confirmed in time to be on the court during its opening days. The court will have just 8 justices, with a 4 to 4 ideological tie.

• Nov. 6: Midterm congressional elections. Democrats just have to convince 2 Republicans to vote against Kavanaugh to defeat his confirmation. In that event, a new nominee will have to be announced, and the long confirmation process will start over. You can be absolutely certain that Democrats will campaign on stopping whoever Trump names.

• Jan. 3, 2019: The new Senate is sworn in. If Democrats manage to take control of the Senate, this is the date when the new Senate is sworn in, and Democrats would take over. If they’d managed to defeat Kavanaugh and delay or defeat the nominee to replace him by the time January 3rd comes around, it would be game over for Republicans. President Trump would now be forced to nominate someone that Democrats approved of. And they may actually demand he nominate a liberal, or else not vote on any nominee at all. It would be considered payback for the Republican refusal to vote on Merrick Garland in 2016, a vacancy eventually filled by Trump’s pick Neil Gorsuch. And there’s even talk that a Democratic Senate would hold out more than 2 years without voting on a Trump nominee in the hopes that a Democrat would win the White House in 2020.

But such a scenario all starts with another delay in the Senate Judiciary Committee’s upcoming Thursday vote on Brett Kavanaugh. A delay made possible by Christine Blasey Ford’s refusal to testify until Thursday.

SOURCES: https://www.wsj.com/…/ford-attorneys-seek-more-time-for-kav…
https://www.bloomberg.com/…/kavanaugh-accuser-agrees-to-mee…

Wow, I hadn't really thought of it like that. And you say it like it's a bad thing.

Serk, you just made my day.....

Thanks for that..... cooldude cooldude cooldude

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« Reply #203 on: September 23, 2018, 08:08:45 AM »

Wow, I hadn't really thought of it like that. And you say it like it's a bad thing.

Serk, you just made my day.....

Thanks for that..... cooldude cooldude cooldude



You celebrate the death of the republic....

Almost makes me wish I were a Christian just so I could pray for you.

(And our republic!)
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« Reply #204 on: September 23, 2018, 08:20:42 AM »

Wow, I hadn't really thought of it like that. And you say it like it's a bad thing.

Serk, you just made my day.....

Thanks for that..... cooldude cooldude cooldude



You celebrate the death of the republic....

Almost makes me wish I were a Christian just so I could pray for you.

(And our republic!)


You certainly have a flair for the dramatic....
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« Reply #205 on: September 23, 2018, 08:31:00 AM »

Wow, I hadn't really thought of it like that. And you say it like it's a bad thing.

Serk, you just made my day.....

Thanks for that..... cooldude cooldude cooldude



You celebrate the death of the republic....

Almost makes me wish I were a Christian just so I could pray for you.

(And our republic!)


You certainly have a flair for the dramatic....
Dramatic ? I can think of many other words to describe it.  Wink
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« Reply #206 on: September 23, 2018, 09:29:06 AM »

H/T to Unbiased America on Facebook, this is a copy pasta:

THE REAL REASON WHY KAVANAUGH ACCUSER FORD DOESN’T WANT TO TESTIFY UNTIL THURSDAY
By Kevin Ryan

Brett Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford have tentatively agreed to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday. The committee’s Republican leadership had been pushing for Monday or Wednesday, but Ford had rejected those dates from the start. Her insistence on waiting until Thursday is very revealing for one major reason.

That’s the day the committee had been scheduled to vote on Kavanaugh.

By choosing Thursday, Ford and her team of advisors will force yet another postponement of the Kavanaugh vote. And committee rules stipulate that a vote must be announced one week in advance. So it will now be all but impossible for Judge Kavanaugh to be confirmed in time for the October 1st opening day of the Supreme Court’s 2018-2019 term.

But a slight delay is not the real goal of Democrats. There is now a scenario emerging in which Democrats could not only stop Kavanaugh from being confirmed, but even stop President Trump from getting anyone confirmed.

A look at a few key upcoming dates reveals a path to blocking any Trump nominee:

• Sept. 27: The Senate Judiciary Committee is scheduled to vote on whether to recommend Kavanaugh to the Senate this upcoming Thursday. The vote had been scheduled for a week earlier, but was postponed by a week. Now that the Ford hearing will take place that day, it’s all but certain that the vote will be postponed by another week.

• Oct. 1: The Supreme Court’s 2018 session begins. Postponing the vote means Kavanaugh will not be confirmed in time to be on the court during its opening days. The court will have just 8 justices, with a 4 to 4 ideological tie.

• Nov. 6: Midterm congressional elections. Democrats just have to convince 2 Republicans to vote against Kavanaugh to defeat his confirmation. In that event, a new nominee will have to be announced, and the long confirmation process will start over. You can be absolutely certain that Democrats will campaign on stopping whoever Trump names.

• Jan. 3, 2019: The new Senate is sworn in. If Democrats manage to take control of the Senate, this is the date when the new Senate is sworn in, and Democrats would take over. If they’d managed to defeat Kavanaugh and delay or defeat the nominee to replace him by the time January 3rd comes around, it would be game over for Republicans. President Trump would now be forced to nominate someone that Democrats approved of. And they may actually demand he nominate a liberal, or else not vote on any nominee at all. It would be considered payback for the Republican refusal to vote on Merrick Garland in 2016, a vacancy eventually filled by Trump’s pick Neil Gorsuch. And there’s even talk that a Democratic Senate would hold out more than 2 years without voting on a Trump nominee in the hopes that a Democrat would win the White House in 2020.

But such a scenario all starts with another delay in the Senate Judiciary Committee’s upcoming Thursday vote on Brett Kavanaugh. A delay made possible by Christine Blasey Ford’s refusal to testify until Thursday.

SOURCES: https://www.wsj.com/…/ford-attorneys-seek-more-time-for-kav…
https://www.bloomberg.com/…/kavanaugh-accuser-agrees-to-mee…

Wow, I hadn't really thought of it like that. And you say it like it's a bad thing.

Serk, you just made my day.....

Thanks for that..... cooldude cooldude cooldude


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« Reply #207 on: September 23, 2018, 09:45:01 AM »

Unless the Republicans cave on there standards/conditions there will be no hearing and the vote is already scheduled, so they can vote if they are not to chicken.

She did not agree to testify, she agreed to testify if her conditions were accepted. As of right now they are not acceptable - so no testify.

The committee should make it real simple.
Show up Thursday and testify and then we will vote or we vote anyway.
Stop the delaying tactics now or they will never end.
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« Reply #208 on: September 23, 2018, 10:59:14 AM »

Other than Trump (who is NOT a lifelong Republican,  he is a disenchanted democrat from years back) there are few Republicans with GRIT or Balls if you will who will just say F U to those who have demands and vote like their conscience says and at the time they are supposed to vote


Washington is truly a swampy place

Trump was a registered Democrat from August 2001 through September 2009 because he believed the Dems were , at that time, better for the economy.  He is in actuality a CONSERVATIVE  That is not a bad thing.  we have those posting here that we vehemently disagree with who consider themselves conservatives  go figure
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« Reply #209 on: September 23, 2018, 11:10:52 AM »

Just out of curiosity, but let's just assume that Kavanaugh actually groped Ford when he was 17 years old: would you guys still want him to be a supreme justice?
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« Reply #210 on: September 23, 2018, 11:21:42 AM »

I have not been able to put my finger on it either. Maybe Trump has too many character flaws to give him room to do his job. I have asked on here if Trump kicked their dog, said there kids were ugly, pinched their wife/girlfriend on the cheek (you know which one), or some other affront that makes them see red when anything comes up about Trump.

I got what I asked for. Before Trump ever announced his intentions I said publicly that we needed a non politician, someone who would country before party and that’s what we got. I also said publicly that I would vote for Donald Duck before I would vote for Hillary. I got the Donald even though I didn’t give him much of a chance in the general election. He has been exactly what the country has needed at the time he was needed. I don’t agree with everything that comes out of his mouth but  don’t remember that happening with previous Presidents either.

The largest surprise for me has been the extreme hatred for him to the extent of trying to discredit his election, impeachment, and daily assaults by the media to tear down his administration. At the same time it has been eye opening to see the lengths to which the establishment/ deep state is willing to go, and we may not have reached their limits yet.
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« Reply #211 on: September 23, 2018, 11:24:07 AM »

Just out of curiosity, but let's just assume that Kavanaugh actually groped Ford when he was 17 years old: would you guys still want him to be a supreme justice?


A seventeen year old “groping” would not preclude me from supporting him.
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« Reply #212 on: September 23, 2018, 11:43:23 AM »

Just out of curiosity, but let's just assume that Kavanaugh actually groped Ford when he was 17 years old: would you guys still want him to be a supreme justice?


"If Democrats could forgive Ted Kennedy for Mary Jo Kopechne, then they can certainly give a pass to a teen-age Kavanaugh."

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/17/brett-kavanaugh-getting-raked-over-high-school-coa/

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« Reply #213 on: September 23, 2018, 12:04:35 PM »

Just out of curiosity, but let's just assume that Kavanaugh actually groped Ford when he was 17 years old: would you guys still want him to be a supreme justice? 

Yes.  I do not, however, assume he did.

I disbelieve a woman who has been confident enough to acquire a doctorate saying that she has been victimized for 30 years over such an incident.  If there were several women claiming they had been mauled by a drunken Kavanaugh perhaps it would indicate a teenaged character flaw.  There are not.

It's too convenient.  Not only is she a liberal but she is a strongly committed liberal contributing to liberal causes.  The whole "I won't testify until Thursday and then only if my demands are met"  is just too much.  Anyone who chooses to believe this woman does so because that persaon wants to believe not because there is any evidential reason to do so.

I did some things as a teenager and even later that have nothing to do with my present character.  He has a history on the bench.  Why isn't he simply validated or invalidated by his actions from the bench?

For meathead and those who asked, I think she is a liar and I don't believe she was "forced" into hiding by any thtreats.   
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« Reply #214 on: September 23, 2018, 12:13:42 PM »

Just out of curiosity, but let's just assume that Kavanaugh actually groped Ford when he was 17 years old: would you guys still want him to be a supreme justice?


There is nothing hornier than a 17 yr old boy, except maybe a drunk 17 yr old boy.


Whatever his actions may or may not have been at 17 yrs old, they have absolutely no bearing on the man that he became.

Would you REALLY want your entire life judged by anything that you may have done when you were 17yrs old?
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« Reply #215 on: September 23, 2018, 12:14:53 PM »

Democrats didn't seem to have any problems with Bill's transgressions.


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« Reply #216 on: September 23, 2018, 12:48:27 PM »

That was freakin funny .....because it is probably true !
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« Reply #217 on: September 23, 2018, 01:32:57 PM »

Just out of curiosity, but let's just assume that Kavanaugh actually groped Ford when he was 17 years old: would you guys still want him to be a supreme justice? 

Yes.  I do not, however, assume he did.

I disbelieve a woman who has been confident enough to acquire a doctorate saying that she has been victimized for 30 years over such an incident.  If there were several women claiming they had been mauled by a drunken Kavanaugh perhaps it would indicate a teenaged character flaw.  There are not.

It's too convenient.  Not only is she a liberal but she is a strongly committed liberal contributing to liberal causes.  The whole "I won't testify until Thursday and then only if my demands are met"  is just too much.  Anyone who chooses to believe this woman does so because that persaon wants to believe not because there is any evidential reason to do so.

I did some things as a teenager and even later that have nothing to do with my present character.  He has a history on the bench.  Why isn't he simply validated or invalidated by his actions from the bench?

For meathead and those who asked, I think she is a liar and I don't believe she was "forced" into hiding by any thtreats.   
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« Reply #218 on: September 23, 2018, 01:35:21 PM »

I hope the other people she said were there sue the living crap out of her for defamation of character.
She's gonna need that gofundme.
One of her friends has recanted her previous comments and statements of being there.
Her story is falling faster than Bill Clinton's zipper around interns.

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« Reply #219 on: September 23, 2018, 06:52:16 PM »

...aaaaaaaand right on queue, the Democrats have dug up another hoe to try to delay the confirmation and besmirch the candidate...

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/senate-democrats-investigate-a-new-allegation-of-sexual-misconduct-from-the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaughs-college-years-deborah-ramirez

And another step towards "The end of civilization"

https://nypost.com/2018/09/18/scrapping-kavanaughs-appointment-means-the-end-of-civilization/
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« Reply #220 on: September 23, 2018, 09:19:39 PM »

And not to be outdone, the creepy porn lawyer says he's come up with an accuser, as well.
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« Reply #221 on: September 24, 2018, 04:30:59 AM »

And not to be outdone, the creepy porn lawyer says he's come up with an accuser, as well.

of course he has. What he meant to say is he found someone willing to be used and make up a fake story just to get his name out.
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« Reply #222 on: September 24, 2018, 04:33:17 AM »

I would vote him in based on an alleged incident that happened 35 years ago, with no other alleged victims saying they were attacked. I would also vote him in based on the fact that it took this long to come to light. Sorry, it's a no brainier!
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« Reply #223 on: September 24, 2018, 06:09:43 AM »

I think we are seeing an escalation in the war and struggle for power between the two parties that will not serve America’s interests. I know that with holding Garlands nomination was a poke in the eye to the Democrats and after getting one appointment through I guess the Dems have decided no more. At least the Republicans were open and above board stating there position for not giving him the hearing( end of Obama’s term and new elections coming up).

I think character assassination of a good accomplished person is a step too far, especially when the true anger is for Trump. I don’t think the Republicans can compete with the Dems when it comes to dirty tricks nor can they appeal to much of the democratic base who has embraced the socialist view of the future.

No matter how much you despise the Trump presidency, if you identify with the Democratic Party it would be wise to take a hard look at where they want to take you, who the leaders are, who the emerging new players are and what they believe.
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« Reply #224 on: September 24, 2018, 06:26:31 AM »

I think we are seeing an escalation in the war and struggle for power between the two parties that will not serve America’s interests. I know that with holding Garlands nomination was a poke in the eye to the Democrats and after getting one appointment through I guess the Dems have decided no more. At least the Republicans were open and above board stating there position for not giving him the hearing( end of Obama’s term and new elections coming up).

I think character assassination of a good accomplished person is a step too far, especially when the true anger is for Trump. I don’t think the Republicans can compete with the Dems when it comes to dirty tricks nor can they appeal to much of the democratic base who has embraced the socialist view of the future.

No matter how much you despise the Trump presidency, if you identify with the Democratic Party it would be wise to take a hard look at where they want to take you, who the leaders are, who the emerging new players are and what they believe.
If you identify with the Republican Party it would be wise to take a hard look where Trump is taking you.
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« Reply #225 on: September 24, 2018, 06:36:30 AM »

If you identify with the Republican Party it would be wise to take a hard look where Trump is taking you.

Improving economy?
Near full employment?
Record high stock market?
Increasing freedoms and liberty?
Defending civil liberties?
Choosing judges, SCOTUS and bench judges that will defend the constitution, civil liberties and personal freedoms?
Removing the choking shackles of over-regulation from the American people?
Helping out one true ally and only Democracy in the Middle East?
Making the rest of the world finally respect and admire us again after 8 years of laughing at us and taking us for granted?
Defanging Obamacare by removing the individual mandate?
Decreasing the amount of theft? Not for the rich, but for almost everyone? (The lower amount of theft I'm seeing from the Trump Tax cuts are what are enabling me to do Inzane now!)


Oh no! PLEASE don't threaten me with a good time!
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« Reply #226 on: September 24, 2018, 06:41:59 AM »

I think we are seeing an escalation in the war and struggle for power between the two parties that will not serve America’s interests. I know that with holding Garlands nomination was a poke in the eye to the Democrats and after getting one appointment through I guess the Dems have decided no more. At least the Republicans were open and above board stating there position for not giving him the hearing( end of Obama’s term and new elections coming up).

I think character assassination of a good accomplished person is a step too far, especially when the true anger is for Trump. I don’t think the Republicans can compete with the Dems when it comes to dirty tricks nor can they appeal to much of the democratic base who has embraced the socialist view of the future.

No matter how much you despise the Trump presidency, if you identify with the Democratic Party it would be wise to take a hard look at where they want to take you, who the leaders are, who the emerging new players are and what they believe.
If you identify with the Republican Party it would be wise to take a hard look where Trump is taking you.

Help me out, my rose colored glasses are just too dark I guess. Plus I wish you would address my concerns as posted above, your reply seems to indicate you are perfectly happy with the Democratic Party and it’s future, maybe you are?
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« Reply #227 on: September 24, 2018, 06:53:59 AM »


Wow, I hadn't really thought of it like that.



Why do I find this hard to believe?

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« Reply #228 on: September 24, 2018, 06:55:14 AM »

You assume much. I don’t belong to the Democrat Party. You concerns that you have stated have addressed many times by me. I don’t really think you need to hear them again.
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« Reply #229 on: September 24, 2018, 06:57:43 AM »

I think we are seeing an escalation in the war and struggle for power between the two parties that will not serve America’s interests. I know that with holding Garlands nomination was a poke in the eye to the Democrats and after getting one appointment through I guess the Dems have decided no more. At least the Republicans were open and above board stating there position for not giving him the hearing( end of Obama’s term and new elections coming up).

I think character assassination of a good accomplished person is a step too far, especially when the true anger is for Trump. I don’t think the Republicans can compete with the Dems when it comes to dirty tricks nor can they appeal to much of the democratic base who has embraced the socialist view of the future.

No matter how much you despise the Trump presidency, if you identify with the Democratic Party it would be wise to take a hard look at where they want to take you, who the leaders are, who the emerging new players are and what they believe.
If you identify with the Republican Party it would be wise to take a hard look where Trump is taking you.

Help me out, my rose colored glasses are just too dark I guess. Plus I wish you would address my concerns as posted above, your reply seems to indicate you are perfectly happy with the Democratic Party and it’s future, maybe you are?

 You guys are waisting your time. Guys like Meathead,Baldo and Savago will never acknowledge the good pres Trump has done or what he will continue to do. The trump derangment syndrome is too strong. They continue to be blinded by their pure HATRED for the president to see how well the country is doing.
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« Reply #230 on: September 24, 2018, 06:58:34 AM »


She did not agree to testify, she agreed to testify if her conditions were accepted. As of right now they are not acceptable - so no testify.


Even if they met ALL the "conditions", there'd be more "conditions" set.

They should have subpoenaed her right away and screw her and the left's "conditions".  Why did they give her so much power?

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« Reply #231 on: September 24, 2018, 07:11:09 AM »

Just out of curiosity, but let's just assume that Kavanaugh actually groped Ford when he was 17 years old: would you guys still want him to be a supreme justice? 

Yes.  I do not, however, assume he did.

I disbelieve a woman who has been confident enough to acquire a doctorate saying that she has been victimized for 30 years over such an incident.  If there were several women claiming they had been mauled by a drunken Kavanaugh perhaps it would indicate a teenaged character flaw.  There are not.

It's too convenient.  Not only is she a liberal but she is a strongly committed liberal contributing to liberal causes.  The whole "I won't testify until Thursday and then only if my demands are met"  is just too much.  Anyone who chooses to believe this woman does so because that persaon wants to believe not because there is any evidential reason to do so.

I did some things as a teenager and even later that have nothing to do with my present character.  He has a history on the bench.  Why isn't he simply validated or invalidated by his actions from the bench?

For meathead and those who asked, I think she is a liar and I don't believe she was "forced" into hiding by any thtreats.   
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« Reply #232 on: September 24, 2018, 07:16:14 AM »


 You guys are waisting your time. Guys like Meathead,Baldo and Savago will never acknowledge the good pres Trump has done or what he will continue to do. The trump derangment syndrome is too strong. They continue to be blinded by their pure HATRED for the president to see how well the country is doing.


Yet you all seem to keep banging your heads against that wall.  Why?

(rhetorical)

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« Reply #233 on: September 24, 2018, 07:17:12 AM »

You guys are waisting your time. Guys like Meathead,Baldo and Savago will never acknowledge the good pres Trump has done or what he will continue to do. The trump derangment syndrome is too strong. They continue to be blinded by their pure HATRED for the president to see how well the country is doing.

As much hatred, violence, discrimination, assault, etc as are currently hurled at non-liberals, this is why I say most of the things I say:



Edit - Also, I find defending my positions forces me to think them through and make sure I really am on the side of light fighting against the evils of darkness, and not the other way around.
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« Reply #234 on: September 24, 2018, 07:25:14 AM »

You assume much. I don’t belong to the Democrat Party. You concerns that you have stated have addressed many times by me. I don’t really think you need to hear them again.

Have it your way. You assume much, I am a lifelong registered Democrat. I have no idea what you are, but you still addressed my post by just substituting names. I assure you I am ok with the current administrations direction. When that changes, I’ll be the first to speak up.

Your replies often leaves me wondering and today the only think I can come up with is you are a Trump hater and an obstructionist. I’m willing to revise my opinion but you seem to clam up when it comes to details. Frankly the only interaction I have with people that dislike Trump is on this forum, so I try to learn and understand what other people are thinking. I’m sure if I wanted to find more places that hate Trump it wouldn’t be that hard but I’m not into that.
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« Reply #235 on: September 24, 2018, 07:38:36 AM »

Just out of curiosity, but let's just assume that Kavanaugh actually groped Ford when he was 17 years old: would you guys still want him to be a supreme justice? 

Yes.  I do not, however, assume he did.

I disbelieve a woman who has been confident enough to acquire a doctorate saying that she has been victimized for 30 years over such an incident.  If there were several women claiming they had been mauled by a drunken Kavanaugh perhaps it would indicate a teenaged character flaw.  There are not.

It's too convenient.  Not only is she a liberal but she is a strongly committed liberal contributing to liberal causes.  The whole "I won't testify until Thursday and then only if my demands are met"  is just too much.  Anyone who chooses to believe this woman does so because that persaon wants to believe not because there is any evidential reason to do so.

I did some things as a teenager and even later that have nothing to do with my present character.  He has a history on the bench.  Why isn't he simply validated or invalidated by his actions from the bench?

For meathead and those who asked, I think she is a liar and I don't believe she was "forced" into hiding by any thtreats.   
My self imposed VRCC Sabbath precludes me from responding in kind.

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(NOT laughing with you)


Why is it you wish to have me not comment, not quote, not communicate with you in any way, but you continue to on ?
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« Reply #236 on: September 24, 2018, 07:56:00 AM »

It's time for the gloves to come off.

No more polygraphs.

It's time for waterboarding the accusers until the truth comes out.

And for Feinstein, just because.

Or, just hold the vote, now.
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« Reply #237 on: September 24, 2018, 08:44:50 AM »

As of the latest "democratic" revelation? and trash parade? it is time to stop the trash talk and VOTE.
And if some of the senators cannot see thru the latest demo-crap vote them out.
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« Reply #238 on: September 24, 2018, 08:57:17 AM »

You guys are waisting your time. Guys like Meathead,Baldo and Savago will never acknowledge the good pres Trump has done or what he will continue to do. The trump derangment syndrome is too strong. They continue to be blinded by their pure HATRED for the president to see how well the country is doing.

As much hatred, violence, discrimination, assault, etc as are currently hurled at non-liberals, this is why I say most of the things I say:



Edit - Also, I find defending my positions forces me to think them through and make sure I really am on the side of light fighting against the evils of darkness, and not the other way around.

 I guess I never thought about it that way Brian. They "liberals"  certainly are not going to change my mind.

Let me tell you a little story. I met my wife almost ten years ago. Shortly after we got together I went down to visit her aunt and uncles house in Luttrell TN. She told me ahead of time that they were Democrats and not to argue with them about politics. I agreed. Was hard but I didnt.  While I was down there the first time Twila and her uncle went to the store. While they were gone I turned on FOX news. Her aunt ask me "how can you watch that channel". I told her "it was the only news organizations that give me the truth". She didn't say anything else. A few yesrs later on when Twila and her uncle were talking he told her "the only thing he sees wrong with me is that I am a Republican". I took it as a compliment.lol.

 Fast forward to Trumps campaign. We were visiting again. I'm in another room resting when I hear from the living room "so and so FOX news contributer". Huh when did he start watching FOX. Later he told me he turned his back on Obama after their granddaughter lost her Healthcare as a result of Obamacare and it proved to him Obama was lying. Since then they have turned their backs on the Democrat party. We just got home last night from another visit with them. The only news channel he watched while I was there was FOX. Uncle Jerry believes like me that Kavanagh is being railroaded by the dems and this lying woman. Sorry for the rant I just wanted to make the point that even some diehard dems see the good Trump is doing.....
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« Reply #239 on: September 24, 2018, 09:11:16 AM »

Fast forward to Trumps campaign. We were visiting again. I'm in another room resting when I hear from the living room "so and so FOX news contributer". Huh when did he start watching FOX. Later he told me he turned his back on Obama after their granddaughter lost her Healthcare as a result of Obamacare and it proved to him Obama was lying. Since then they have turned their backs on the Democrat party. We just got home last night from another visit with them. The only news channel he watched while I was there was FOX. Uncle Jerry believes like me that Kavanagh is being railroaded by the dems and this lying woman. Sorry for the rant I just wanted to make the point that even some diehard dems see the good Trump is doing.....

Yup, as the American left/Democrats become more and more hate filled, fascist, anti-American, anti-freedom, anti-tolerance, racist, sexist, etc many folks are starting to walk away.

There's even a community for folks who have woken up and #Walkaway from the hatred the left pushes these days:

(Watch the video, this reformed liberal sums it up nicely.)

https://www.walkawaycampaign.com/

I do hold out hope some of our smarter liberal friends will wake up to the fact that they're walking on the dark side of history before it's too late, but I fear the TDS has too strong of a hold on them.

But I still hope.
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