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Oooooookay.
I hate to ask a really stupid question, but I got to thinking (yes, I know that can be dangerous). Do you get off of your Valk to fill the tank while it's on it's side stand.......or do you fill the tank while sitting on the Valk with the bike sitting straight up?
Is there a right way and a wrong way to fill the tank.....or does it matter? And how much do you put in it.......can you over fill it?
Us inquiring dumbasses wanna know.
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2009, 03:18:54 PM » |
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off, sidestand. Pete.
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2009, 03:37:53 PM » |
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Sitting on the bike with it upright. We have those wonderful nozzle sleeves that collect fumes. There is NO WAY you can fill your bike up if you leave the sleeve down. I have found that it is easier to just sit on the bike and fill it up.
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2009, 03:56:15 PM » |
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Off the bike on the sidestand and watching the fuel level very closley.
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2009, 04:02:03 PM » |
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Off the bike and 99% of the time use a paper towel over the hole to catch the 'spray' and use it to catch the drips as I pull the nozzle out of the tank. I am also careful not to ash in the tank.  Just kidding on the last part I don't smoke cigs. Most of the time I pay cash and have to get off anyway. They say you can over fill it but I never have to my knowledge. I fill to the bottom of the neck or to the nearest dollar amount. |
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2009, 04:04:40 PM » |
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I put the gas nozzle into the gas filler and carefully pump so as not to overfill.
Seriously, let's not overthink this issue.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 04:35:12 PM » |
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I fill mine on the sidestand, then I stand it upright to get the last half gallon in. I opened up the hole in the collar so it would fill easier.
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2009, 04:40:21 PM » |
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I siphon it directly from my wifes car, to save money!  hoser  |
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2009, 04:59:22 PM » |
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I siphon it directly from my wifes car, to save money! hoser Good one.... Side stand, off the bike. If you have ever spilled some gas on the "twins" (such as over fill and runs down on the twins) you will make sure you are off the bike the next time...... |
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2009, 06:01:30 PM » |
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With the valk (and any center-fill bike tank), I ride up close, leave it in gear and shut down, card in, and fill holding the bike level with the feet (sidestand up), and slowly rock just a little as it gets close to full to see the level better. If the pump will feed slow enough, I can usually get another quarter gallon in even though it looks full (Interstate), and never lost any thru vent or overfill. Never get off the bike.
If the tank is a right side fill, I get off and do it on the sidestand.
BTW, you do know to avoid ever gassing up at a station being refilled with a tanker?
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2009, 06:05:14 PM » |
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BTW, you do know to avoid ever gassing up at a station being refilled with a tanker?
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2009, 06:38:50 PM » |
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Seriously, let's not overthink this issue.
Ah, the knowledge that's lost as the years go by. There was talk 10 years ago about how the Valkyrie tank could hold a half gallon more just by refilling slowly. And there were threads on how to enlarge a certain vent hole in the filler neck to make this burping process faster. (Is it possible to search VOA archives circa 1998? And does the GWRRA Valkyrie SIG board even exist anymore?) That said, if I'm on a trip and need an extra 30 miles of range, I use my centerstand and burp the Valk until the gas almost fills the filler neck. If you do this, just be sure you're going to be riding at least 20 miles non-stop before parking in the sun.  |
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2009, 07:14:42 PM » |
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That's kinda what I was wondering since I've never read about it on here before........can you overfill the beast. Or more to the question, how much can you put in it? Yeah, I know what size the tank is.....but since I've never ran out of gas before hitting the gas station before, that's not the question. I've filled it up to the bottom of the neck, and then tried rounding off to the next even amount or so.....but when I do, the level doesn't seem to get any higher. Where the heck is it going? I don't want to over fill it (if that's possible), and I don't want to have gas flowing out everywhere either...and I sure as heck don't want it on the boys.  Looking down into the neck, how much can I squeese off in there? Like I said, I don't want to be asking a stupid question, but in the year and half I've had this thing, I've never seen it talked about. btw.....I fill it up sitting on the bike with the bike straight up......usually. |
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2009, 07:54:21 PM » |
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You can fill it right to the top of the neck, but it takes a little more time.
You shouldn't do that, as previously noted, unless you're going to ride a few miles before parking.
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2009, 05:31:02 PM » |
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Down here they'll shut the pump on you if you don't get off the bike. Since not being able to fill while on the bike, the gauge never shows full even when filled to limit on sidestand. I guess there's little chance of overfill that way.
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2009, 02:14:48 AM » |
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Off bike, bike on side stand and fill slowly while watching level. Fill up and slightly into filler tube.
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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2009, 07:49:36 AM » |
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Of course. It stirs up the crap in the station's tank. Hmmm... I wonder if Hoser lets his wife's car sitting for a while before he siphons it... |
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2009, 09:30:20 AM » |
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The safest way is to have the kick stand down. If you’ve ever read the legal description of fueling a vehicle you’re suppose to have it grounded to a grounding bar to prevent electrical shock from igniting the fuel vapors. No one ever does that unless you’re doing aircraft fuel.
Some TV show did a report on it also, saying you should ground yourself before taking off the gas cap….. showed cool videos of people exploding, good stuff!!
Me personally, I stand on the bike and fuel.
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2009, 09:34:13 AM » |
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The safest way is to have the kick stand down. If you’ve ever read the legal description of fueling a vehicle you’re suppose to have it grounded to a grounding bar to prevent electrical shock from igniting the fuel vapors. No one ever does that unless you’re doing aircraft fuel.
Some TV show did a report on it also, saying you should ground yourself before taking off the gas cap….. showed cool videos of people exploding, good stuff!!
Me personally, I stand on the bike and fuel.
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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2009, 11:40:07 AM » |
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Side stand down, and off the motorcycle. I didn't always do it this way, but over the years I have witnessed two riding buds each fall over (at different times) while gassing their bikes, while still in the saddle. Neither of them seemed able to let go of the nozzle, while falling. So, bike falling with gas cap off, and holding gas fill hose. After seeing these "fall-downs", and the very real potential for disaster, I started filling the tank while dismounted. To get that last small bit of fuel into the tank when necessary, I carried a small piece of 2x4" to place under the side stand, to get the Valk near vertical. That was before I put on a Rivco Center-stand. To each their own, your mileage may vary. You may never fall, and those two riders may have just been clumsy.
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2009, 11:55:55 AM » |
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How do I fill the Valk.
By the #'s now.
1. Insert Card or pre pay card
2. Take hose out of holder
3. Press the grade button
4. Put wittle hose in da hole on da tank.
5. Pull trigger.
6. When it shuts off, put wittle hose on gas pump
7. Go pay or get receipt.
8. Straddle bike & proceed on your way.
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Now for the serious side.
1 - 4 same.
5 straddle bike on side stand.
6. pull trigger
7. When it shuts off stand bike upright - flat footed.
8. Top off tank.
9. Back onto sidestand
10. Get off bike,
11. Remove wittle hose from the tank
12. Hang wittle hose up.
13. Take care of your purchase
14. Get on bike, insert key, start and ride off.........
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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2009, 08:22:14 AM » |
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I always get off. I've seen 2 bikes catch fire while fueling. Very exciting and even more so if you ass is on the seat. The extra gas int he tank is not worth much to me. The Valk goes farther on a tank than I can anyway. I fill to the little metal bracket on the left inside the filler neck.
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« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2009, 12:19:27 PM » |
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The safest way is to have the kick stand down. If you’ve ever read the legal description of fueling a vehicle you’re suppose to have it grounded to a grounding bar to prevent electrical shock from igniting the fuel vapors. No one ever does that unless you’re doing aircraft fuel.
Some TV show did a report on it also, saying you should ground yourself before taking off the gas cap….. showed cool videos of people exploding, good stuff!!
Me personally, I stand on the bike and fuel.
Paints a funny picture of you "standing" on your bike...I must be in a silly mood... Can you see it, surfer (not that you are) hanging 10 off the handle bars and fueling your bike... ok, it is a very slow day in the office... ALRIGHT SMARTY PANTS! YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN! It is funny when you re-read your mistakes….. |
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« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2009, 05:07:15 PM » |
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One petcock failure, may make you folks that fill while on the bike, rethink you "position".
Nothing makes an impression like having gallons of gas pour across a hot engine that you are straddled.
Enough said, your bike, your butt, your choice. Thanks Pete
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How do I fill the Valk.
By the #'s now.
4. Put wittle hose in da hole on da tank.
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« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2009, 10:45:20 PM » |
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I sit on the bike and pack as much in as I can. I really don't give a chit how anybody else does it.
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« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2009, 06:54:22 AM » |
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One of my first modifications to the Valk was a center stand, and it works great at filling stations. I've been told that our engines don't get hot enough to ignite gas if it spills on the engine while filling the tank, but I don't want to test that theory.
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« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2009, 12:09:29 PM » |
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Seen a guy go up in flames at a pump several years ago, so it can happen. I make my wife get off the bike and stand away. I fill it on the side stand with nozzle in contact with tank.  |
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« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2009, 03:35:22 PM » |
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I've been told that our engines don't get hot enough to ignite gas if it spills on the engine while filling the tank, but I don't want to test that theory. I have.
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I've been told that our engines don't get hot enough to ignite gas if it spills on the engine while filling the tank, but I don't want to test that theory. I have.
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« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2009, 09:37:37 AM » |
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Fill bike while on it, upright side stand up, never letting metal part of fill hose lose contact with tank fill hole(keep it grounded that way) all the way to the top of filler neck, sometimes so full that when closing cap some dripples out, now thats full, enlarged vent hole (easier to get that last little bit in without the bubbles and spitting) in filler neck with punch/awl so as not to drill and cause sparks in tank or chips of metal. This past summer got 5.8 gals. in tank I think it was near empty at that point, ya think Did this same thing on way to Co. in 99' and then parked went inside to eat right after fill up, came out to find bike in middle of gas lake Temp outside 100+ temp of gas inground tank 50? not a good combination. Pushed bike away from said spill and started it and rode off ----fast. Been doing this for 150,000 plus miles haven't burnt up yet. Just my way, not a recomendation to do as I do, just saying that is what I do. |
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« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2009, 06:21:35 PM » |
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I've never tried this, and you'd still need to hold the bike straight up to fill the tank completely: https://www.mccuff.com/store/Like the young lady from Norway discovered, it's one more way |
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« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2009, 11:01:48 AM » |
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I remember seeing one of those on one of the OCC episodes a while back. I wonder how well it works?
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« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2009, 11:09:08 AM » |
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I ordered the McCuff, and it does let you put more gas in before the auto-shutoff, but it also allows it to bubble up higher before stopping the nozzle so you get a good stream of gas down the side of the tank onto the engine...  I thought it would help since almost all of the local stations nozzles won't allow a dribble, so have to top off the tank in spurts, more chances for spillage... FREE: 1 slightly used McCuff. Can be found on top of the gas station roof at.... Mike "dodis" |
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« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2009, 01:11:34 PM » |
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Seen a guy go up in flames at a pump several years ago, so it can happen. I make my wife get off the bike and stand away. I fill it on the side stand with nozzle in contact with tank. Having the nozzle in contact with the tank while fueling is the critical part, static electricity can ignite the vapors. The tank should never be filled beyond 95% anyway. It allows for expansion of fuel that's cooler in the ground than above a warm engine. |
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« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2009, 01:34:03 PM » |
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Will always remember the scene in Easy Rider where Peter Fonda places his open palm under the dispenser as he moves it back to the pump so no fuel drops on his paint.
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« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2009, 04:08:30 PM » |
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I'm heading to the Patent office to register the chingus I made to hold the collar back on the recovery system nozzle.
I can watch the level rise and stop before it overflows. (I put my hand under the nozzle to catch the drip). Ymmv,
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The gas won't light on the engine but, the exhaust pipes are another thing. I've seen it happen (Harley) and know a Vulcan owner who did this. Very exciting!!!!
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« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2009, 04:03:42 PM » |
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Not to get nausiatingly detailed, but I forgot to mention one part of my refueling method.
After pulling up to the pump, feet down, card in/out....I draw the hose across me with nozzle pointed up to 12 oclock, out to arms length, turn it over and shake the last drops of gas on the ground. Then I turn the nozzle back up, bring it to the tank and turn it over directly into the tank. When finished letting the last drops into the tank, I turn the nozzle directly out of the tank back to straight up, then across the tank into the pump. With a little hand/eye coordination, this can easily be done without a drop on the bike/tank. And no hand catching the drips.
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