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Dr Birx has finally caught up to my research and what I've been stating for over a month. and she is being nice with 25%. Deborah Birx, the White House's coronavirus task force response coordinator, blasted the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in a White House coronavirus task force meeting during a discussion on COVID-19 data, according to The Washington Post. "There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust," she told CDC Director Robert Redfield, two people familiar with the meeting told the newspaper. The Post reported that Birx and others feared that the CDC's statistics on mortality rate and case counts were inflated by up to 25%. https://www.businessinsider.com/deborah-birx-cdc-comments-coronavirus-task-force-meeting-2020-5 |
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Interesting two different "views" of Dr. Brix. "Let’s repeat this fact. The two “experts” who have had the President’s ear have virtually no experience in the day to day management of patients with various medical conditions. This means that every recommendation they would make comes from the intellectually sterile universe of virology research, not from daily contact with real people who have real problems. But even that cannot excuse their public ignorance of key features of SARS CoV-2. That knowledge should have led them to give the President completely different advice." https://noqreport.com/2020/05/10/what-did-they-know-and-when-did-they-know-it/"During a task force meeting Wednesday, a heated discussion broke out between Deborah Birx, the physician who oversees the administration’s coronavirus response, and Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Birx and others were frustrated with the CDC’s antiquated system for tracking virus data, which they worried was inflating some statistics — such as mortality rate and case count — by as much as 25 percent, according to four people present for the discussion or later briefed on it. Two senior administration officials said the discussion was not heated." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/as-deaths-mount-trump-tries-to-convince-americans-it-s-safe-to-inch-back-to-normal/ar-BB13QL8USo, Dr. Brix, has little or no experience in being a "Doctor" as you and I think of it. |
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Interesting two different "views" of Dr. Brix. "Let’s repeat this fact. The two “experts” who have had the President’s ear have virtually no experience in the day to day management of patients with various medical conditions. This means that every recommendation they would make comes from the intellectually sterile universe of virology research, not from daily contact with real people who have real problems. But even that cannot excuse their public ignorance of key features of SARS CoV-2. That knowledge should have led them to give the President completely different advice." https://noqreport.com/2020/05/10/what-did-they-know-and-when-did-they-know-it/"During a task force meeting Wednesday, a heated discussion broke out between Deborah Birx, the physician who oversees the administration’s coronavirus response, and Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Birx and others were frustrated with the CDC’s antiquated system for tracking virus data, which they worried was inflating some statistics — such as mortality rate and case count — by as much as 25 percent, according to four people present for the discussion or later briefed on it. Two senior administration officials said the discussion was not heated." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/as-deaths-mount-trump-tries-to-convince-americans-it-s-safe-to-inch-back-to-normal/ar-BB13QL8USo, Dr. Brix, has little or no experience in being a "Doctor" as you and I think of it. i find this paragraph from the first article to be very interesting: Next, Fauci wrote in 2005 that “Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread…We report…that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage.” In short, CQ and HCQ are extremely effective antivirals in coronavirus cases. But now he is poo-poo-ing CQ and HCQ in favor of remdesivir. CQ and HCQ are very old drugs, and in the HCQ/Z-pack/Zinc combo cost about $20 for a full course of treatment. Fauci was involved in the development of remdesivir for Ebola (it didn’t work), and so is personally invested in its success. This has essentially been my line of thinking all along. There were too many Dr's reporting success with the drugs for any reasonable person to ignore the evidence. Add to that the fact that the drugs are proven safe to use and it makes absolutely no sense to not at least try them. As for the second article. The author is clearly biased to the point that their conclusions are meaningless. |
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Judging from how crowded everything looks, this could be a good test of what effect a complete reopening might have. It certainly looks like the public in general has had enough and is ready to give all authorities a big FU. I'm curious, Do you know if all of the restaurants were open? |
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I don't know about the other countries listed. But, I had just looked at Germany's: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/None of their data shows a "spike" in Germany. |
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Judging from how crowded everything looks, this could be a good test of what effect a complete reopening might have. It certainly looks like the public in general has had enough and is ready to give all authorities a big FU. I'm curious, Do you know if all of the restaurants were open? As far as I know they are open but with social distancing. Some counties are putting in place their own rules. |
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« Reply #1489 on: May 11, 2020, 05:58:33 AM » |
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fine Americans are led to slaughter
History proves this time and again
The media has the power, through repetition to get fine Americans, even supposed independent
thinkers, to fear.
Fear leads to all kinds of really bad things; hate, xenophobia persecution, death
Be suspicious of the media.
Remember history
Ask who gains by a dialog and who gains without it. Big money pharma gains, politicians who own stock
gain, politicians getting kickbacks to their foundations and children gain
The risk of a proven drug combination that costs 20 bucks is what the CDC should have been saying all along. Unless you have lupus, severe JRA or existing heart irregularities it should be as standard as
take 2 aspirin and see me in the morning once was if a person has symptoms or has been exposed or has reason to believe exposure
Maybe give it to all seniors and monitor those the first 48 hrs to be sure no heart problem
Do not our seniors and health care providers deserve better than we are doing?
If this was done or is done now we can open the economy and few will die
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The risk of a proven drug combination that costs 20 bucks is what the CDC should have been saying all along. Unless you have lupus, severe JRA or existing heart irregularities it should be as standard as
take 2 aspirin and see me in the morning once was if a person has symptoms or has been exposed or has reason to believe exposure
Maybe give it to all seniors and monitor those the first 48 hrs to be sure no heart problem
Do not our seniors and health care providers deserve better than we are doing?
If this was done or is done now we can open the economy and few will die
This I agree with 100%. There is more information coming out that the hydrochloroquine and zpack where acting synergistically as treatment and potentially as prophylaxis. Medical providers were using it with apparently good preventative results. And yes those with a compromised immune system such as myself need to take some extra precautions. If it was readily available and I became symptomatic, I'd take the drug cocktail without hesitation. |
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Fear leads to all kinds of really bad things; hate, xenophobia persecution, death...
...If this was done or is done now we can open the economy and few will die
I fear for the economy.
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« Reply #1492 on: May 11, 2020, 07:17:27 AM » |
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You have to remember the "lock down" of the worlds largest economy was to "SLOW THE SPREAD".
It was not to prevent additional cases. It was to slow the spread.
It has, somehow, morphed into the thinking that "we will be safe locked down". Such was not and is not the case.
Also, when you sample more people, you should expect an increase in the number of positive cases.
Reporting an increase in cases as more and more are tested is an expectation but, it is being used to say to us, the new fine Americans, "Look see you must stay locked down to survive".
In my opinion, new organizations with headlines of "increased cases" should be treated as "fake news". They have an agenda.
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It has, somehow, morphed into the thinking that "we will be safe locked down".
Reporting an increase in cases as more and more are tested is an expectation but, it is being used to say to us, the new fine Americans, "Look see you must stay locked down to survive".
That's one way to interpret things. Folks who look at a spike and see a spike are fearful fine Americans. As one opposed to mandated lockdown, I see the reports of spikes as just that -- reports of spikes. If those reports are annoying to you, oh well. You'll get over it. This is a sh!t virus. There are negative aspects of this sh!t virus. I consider lockdown one of those. Acknowledging negative aspects is not any more political than calling them fake and sweeping them under rug. So watch your references to farm animals, they don't apply to me. I could make childish analogies to a hole in the ground, if I was so inclined. I choose not to. It is what it is. It's not over 'til it's over. |
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You have to remember the "lock down" of the worlds largest economy was to "SLOW THE SPREAD".
It was not to prevent additional cases. It was to slow the spread.
It has, somehow, morphed into the thinking that "we will be safe locked down". Such was not and is not the case.
Also, when you sample more people, you should expect an increase in the number of positive cases.
Reporting an increase in cases as more and more are tested is an expectation but, it is being used to say to us, the new fine Americans, "Look see you must stay locked down to survive".
In my opinion, new organizations with headlines of "increased cases" should be treated as "fake news". They have an agenda.
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You and I agree on opening up. We disagree, I guess, on exactly who are the buffoons. I'm not certain that government officials have even the authority to order citizens to "stay at home". I wouldn't personally choose to attend an at home party that is elbow to elbow. Of course, I would choose to attend that with or without reports of rampant viral infections. I do, however, have no problem with people having the right to choose to do so. The phrase in article reporting a single person coughing at a party and that the virus spread because these people weren't wearing masks was a bit stupid. How stupid as a population have we become at the behest of an irresponsible media? |
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The new normal. For now. What harm could a single person coughing cause in a tightly packed party, anyway? Or on an airplane?  https://www.foxnews.com/travel/doctor-flying-united-airlines-packed-flight-photo-passengers-scaredObviously the passengers were only scared because they are misinformed media influenced fine Americans, they should've all torn off their masks and "sucked it up" -- literally. What doesn't kill 'em will only make 'em stronger! FREEDOM! https://twitter.com/ethanjweiss/status/1259165939037331456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1259165939037331456&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fabc7ny.com%2Fis-it-safe-to-fly-social-distancing-flights-united-coronavirus-airlines%2F6169245%2FIf just one person (whether single or married  ) coughed and I was on this flight, I'd sure feel better if he or she were wearing a mask. And me wearing a n95. Ya, I figured out how to wear them properly, not rocket science. I'd feel better, but not quite "safe". But, I wouldn't be flying right now anyway. It just isn't "open" enough for me yet. Should folks be allowed to? Absolutely. Riding has been fun and some shorter ones have been keeping me sane for the most part. I do look forward to some longer journeys... It's all about Darwin's Survival Of The Fittest. Even you admitted you wouldn't attend an elbow to elbow party like the article mentioned right now. And, even despite some horrendous MOTORCYCLE accidents and the like you're still with us. So while you live dangerously, you apparently don't like taking unnecessary risks. That shows some signs of intelligence. You are definitely not one of the buffoons I was referring to. |
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« Reply #1499 on: May 11, 2020, 12:06:26 PM » |
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Airborne disease can spread when people with certain infections cough, sneeze, or talk, spewing nasal and throat secretions into the air. Some viruses or bacteria take flight and hang in the air or land on other people or surfaces.
One of the considerations for transmission of an airborne disease is being in a confined space with someone who has the disease.
Confined spaces include the following environments.
Subways
Buses
Trains
Planes
Elevators
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(OK I will add cruise liners and ferries)
The following is a list of diseases that are considered “Airborne diseases”:
Coronavirus and COVID-19
The common cold
Influenza
Chickenpox
Mumps
Measles
Tuberculosis (TB)
Diphtheria
Comment: I have no problem with the airlines requiring passengers to wear masks. I did not intend to fly anywhere any time soon anyway. While I think it provides a certain false sense of security, if the airline wishes to require it, thats their call.
However it will be interesting to see how the other confined spaces are handled.
Having lived in a confined space for 60 days at a time, I can tell you that, maybe because of the people I was confined with (fellow submariners), there were few, if any diseases communicated. Maybe it was because we were young.
You must remember that before each 60 day deployment these same people were allowed to visit clubs and other venues near where their boat was moored during crew change out. Let us say, these venues may or may not have been up to the local health standards.
Have there been cases where a boat was forced to surface for because of a crew member’s health. Yes, but they are few and far between.
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So, it appears, that if this video is authentic, that if you come in contact with someone who has been identified as having COVID19, in Washington state, you will be forced to take a test and be isolated (even before the test has been completed or validated as positive) at home. You will not be able to go outside of that home until..... Until the State says so. Does that not sound like a third world country. No due process, just forced to abide by the Governor's orders. But then I may have misinterpreted what the Governor of Washington said. (Edited, I can't type sometimes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jh4x4W080o&fbclid=IwAR0qA56XrpSTh9FBZF3DVrlJSXbE2uDH1dWSyZnD_Pb_HGSIkYwdyp4VXhE |
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I do NOT like this. https://ktvz.com/news/coronavirus/2020/05/11/western-states-pact-asks-federal-government-for-1-trillion-in-relief/These five states need to get their economies going and quit begging for alms. The federal bailout mentality is something I do not support. The Governors' emergency Management incompetencies are very apparent. What the hell were they elected for? I didn't vote for ours, BTW. |
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'Social Distancing' is Snake Oil, Not Science"Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York says that it’s “shocking” to discover that 66 percent of new hospitalizations appear to have been among people “largely sheltering at home.”" "One might be inclined to simply accept this as an unintended consequence of “social distancing,” but accepting that would require there to be some kind of benefit to “social distancing” that would make it worth the cost. Is there? Very likely, you already instinctively know that the guidelines suggesting that it’s somehow helpful to keep a six-foot space between healthy people, even outdoors, is not based on science, but just an arbitrary suggestion we’ve been conditioned to accept without evidence. And your gut feeling would be right. There’s a reason that “social distancing” wasn’t a buzzword common to the American lexicon prior to 2020. There’s very little science behind “social distancing” at all. " https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/05/social_distancing_is_snake_oil_not_science.html
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The new normal. For now. What harm could a single person coughing cause in a tightly packed party, anyway? Or on an airplane? The "new normal." I loathe that phrase. I refuse to accept that. It's up to us to not allow this to become normal!! Although, if I think about it, men may come to favor this. Consider it from an evolutionary standpoint. We would be surviving on less oxygen and more carbon dioxide. Over time, this would have to evolve into increased lung capacity (increased lung size). And we know how men admire ladies with big "lungs." |
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The "new normal." I loathe that phrase. I refuse to accept that. It's up to us to not allow this to become normal!!
Although, if I think about it, men may come to favor this. Consider it from an evolutionary standpoint. We would be surviving on less oxygen and more carbon dioxide. Over time, this would have to evolve into increased lung capacity (increased lung size). And we know how men admire ladies with big "lungs."
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The "new normal." I loathe that phrase. I refuse to accept that. It's up to us to not allow this to become normal!!
Although, if I think about it, men may come to favor this. Consider it from an evolutionary standpoint. We would be surviving on less oxygen and more carbon dioxide. Over time, this would have to evolve into increased lung capacity (increased lung size). And we know how men admire ladies with big "lungs."
LOL! That would only work if people (ladies) were taught to wear the masks properly. Most I've seen are breathing around loose masks rather than through them. I think I posted this on here somewhere, but... Wearing your mask with your nose sticking out is like wearing a condom with the tip cut off. |
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Sadly, that rings with way too much truth. I have seen people that are totally freaked out. People have been conditioned into believing that a diagnosis of Covid-19 is an automatic death sentence. When the reality is that unless you're in a high risk group you have at least a 97% chance of surviving it. Add in the number of people that have had it but don't know because they were asymptomatic and the survivability rate goes up even more. Although, You'd never know this by watching anything coming from the MSM. |
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So, it appears, that if this video is authentic, that if you come in contact with someone who has been identified as having COVID19, in Washington state, you will be forced to take a test and be isolated (even before the test has been completed or validated as positive) at home. You will not be able to go outside of that home until..... Until the State says so. Does that not sound like a third world country. No due process, just forced to abide by the Governor's orders. But then I may have misinterpreted what the Governor of Washington said. (Edited, I can't type sometimes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jh4x4W080o&fbclid=IwAR0qA56XrpSTh9FBZF3DVrlJSXbE2uDH1dWSyZnD_Pb_HGSIkYwdyp4VXhEI think that there are a lot of Governors walking around with a god complex. |
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« Reply #1513 on: May 12, 2020, 07:16:29 AM » |
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You cannot make this stuff up, I posted an article about a tatto basically that you can read with a cell phone that will say you had the vaccine or not. This is the enzyme that will make this tatto work and readable with a cell phone. Luciferase is an enzyme used for bio luminescence by various organisms in nature, most famously the firefly. The people who will take this vaccine will be trackable, and they will be able to tell who has & who hasn't taken the vaccine by scanning the bio luminescent LUCIFERASE enzyme in your body. This vaccine will not only “mark” you like a cattle, you will be injected with nano particles that will make a you a Perfect antenna for the 5G frequencies which they will use to track you. These 5G Frequencies will also be used to track your health data in real time and store it into the cloud. See: https://id2020.org/digital-identityThe goal is to connect humans to AI by the use of vaccines, nano tech, and 5G.  Quantum dots (QDs) are tiny semiconductor particles a few nanometres in size, having optical and electronic properties that differ from larger particles due to quantum mechanics. They are a central topic in nanotechnology. We Need to Get Digital ID Right Since 2016, ID2020 has advocated for ethical, privacy-protecting approaches to digital ID. https://id2020.org/digital-identityGlobally, an estimated 95% of children receive at least one dose of some vaccine. This number is staggering — no other public health intervention reaches more children and impacts more families. Immunization poses a huge opportunity to scale digital identity — in many developing countries, immunization coverage greatly exceeds birth registration rates. According to best available estimates, upwards of 95% of children globally receive at least one dose of one vaccine (with 86% of children globally receiving the full three doses recommended of the diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis vaccine, which is commonly used to measure immunization coverage). https://medium.com/id2020/immunization-an-entry-point-for-digital-identity-ea37d9c3b77eApplicants Microsoft Technology Licensing, LLC MICROSOFT TECHNOLOGY LICENSING, LLC [US]/[US] Publication Number WO/2020/060606 Publication Date 26.03.2020 Title (EN) CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA (FR) SYSTÈME DE CRYPTOMONNAIE UTILISANT DES DONNÉES D'ACTIVITÉ CORPORELLE https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606&tab=PCTBIBLIOHuman body activity associated with a task provided to a user may be used in a mining process of a cryptocurrency system. A server may provide a task to a device of a user which is communicatively coupled to the server. A sensor communicatively coupled to or comprised in the device of the user may sense body activity of the user. Body activity data may be generated based on the sensed body activity of the user. The cryptocurrency system communicatively coupled to the device of the user may verify if the body activity data satisfies one or more conditions set by the cryptocurrency system, and award cryptocurrency to the user whose body activity data is verified. CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=US291464337 |
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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« Reply #1514 on: May 12, 2020, 08:00:56 AM » |
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To once again put it all in perspective: From the CDC (Yes I know) website listing deaths in the United States February 1, 2020 through May 8, 2020 All Causes - 808,851 COVID19 - 49,867 (6%) Pneumonia - 74,756 (9%) Influenza - 6,048 (.74%) The CDC Website shown below also provides for the lumping of some cases of deaths which you can see at the website. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htmDeaths from cardiovascular disease (estimated) for the same time frame (February 2, 2020 - May 11, 2020) 223,235 |
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« Reply #1515 on: May 12, 2020, 08:22:00 AM » |
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« Reply #1516 on: May 12, 2020, 08:40:06 AM » |
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To once again put it all in perspective: From the CDC (Yes I know) website listing deaths in the United States February 1, 2020 through May 8, 2020 All Causes - 808,851 COVID19 - 49,867 (6%) Pneumonia - 74,756 (9%) Influenza - 6,048 (.74%) The CDC Website shown below also provides for the lumping of some cases of deaths which you can see at the website. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htmDeaths from cardiovascular disease (estimated) for the same time frame (February 2, 2020 - May 11, 2020) 223,235  OK, let's try this again. Here we go... And please read slowly. BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION, THAT WEBSITE IS USING LAGGING PROVISIONAL DATA!If you go to the site you souce, it states it clearly. The website listed above states (quote) : "Note: Provisional death counts are based on death certificate data received and coded by the National Center for Health Statistics as of May 11, 2020. Death counts are delayed and may differ from other published sources (see Technical Notes). Counts will be updated periodically. Additional information will be added to this site as available. The provisional counts for coronavirus disease (COVID-19) deaths are based on a current flow of mortality data in the ational Vital Statistics System. National provisional counts include deaths occurring within the 50 states and the District of Columbia that have been received and coded as of the date specified. It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), processed, coded, and tabulated. Therefore, the data shown on this page may be incomplete, and will likely not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for the more recent time periods. Death counts for earlier weeks are continually revised and may increase or decrease as new and updated death certificate data are received from the states by NCHS. COVID-19 death counts shown here may differ from other published sources, as data currently are lagged by an average of 1–2 weeks". +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ As opposed to the CSSE site here: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6Which states: How often is the dashboard information updated? The map is maintained in near real time throughout the day through a combination of manual and automated updating. The time of the latest update is noted on the bottom of the dashboard. The GitHub database updates daily at around 11:59 p.m. UTC. Occasional maintenance can result in slower updates. What are the sources of data informing the dashboard? The data sources include the World Health Organization, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the European Center for Disease Prevention and Control, the National Health Commission of the People’s Republic of China, local media reports, local health departments, and the DXY, one of the world’s largest online communities for physicians, health care professionals, pharmacies and facilities. So, again, let's agree to disagree on numbers. |
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« Reply #1517 on: May 12, 2020, 08:56:15 AM » |
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Some of this is new infections, some of it is likely the Chinese Government trying to account for the numbers that they failed to report in the first round. There is absolutely NO WAY that a country with a population of nearly 1.5 billion people had less than 83,000 people infected and less than 5,000 deaths. |
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« Reply #1518 on: May 12, 2020, 09:01:39 AM » |
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To once again put it all in perspective: From the CDC (Yes I know) website listing deaths in the United States February 1, 2020 through May 8, 2020 All Causes - 808,851 COVID19 - 49,867 (6%) Pneumonia - 74,756 (9%) Influenza - 6,048 (.74%) The CDC Website shown below also provides for the lumping of some cases of deaths which you can see at the website. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htmDeaths from cardiovascular disease (estimated) for the same time frame (February 2, 2020 - May 11, 2020) 223,235 OK, let's try this again. Here we go... And please read slowly. BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION, THAT WEBSITE IS USING LAGGING PROVISIONAL DATA!If you go to the site you souce, it states it clearly. The website listed above states (quote) : "Note: Provisional death counts are based on death certificate data received and coded by the National Center for Health Statistics as of May 11, 2020. Death counts are delayed and may differ from other published sources (see Technical Notes). Counts will be updated periodically. Additional information will be added to this site as available. The provisional counts for coronavirus disease (COVID-19) deaths are based on a current flow of mortality data in the ational Vital Statistics System. National provisional counts include deaths occurring within the 50 states and the District of Columbia that have been received and coded as of the date specified. It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), processed, coded, and tabulated. Therefore, the data shown on this page may be incomplete, and will likely not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for the more recent time periods. Death counts for earlier weeks are continually revised and may increase or decrease as new and updated death certificate data are received from the states by NCHS. COVID-19 death counts shown here may differ from other published sources, as data currently are lagged by an average of 1–2 weeks". +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ As opposed to the CSSE site here: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6Which states: How often is the dashboard information updated? The map is maintained in near real time throughout the day through a combination of manual and automated updating. The time of the latest update is noted on the bottom of the dashboard. The GitHub database updates daily at around 11:59 p.m. UTC. Occasional maintenance can result in slower updates. What are the sources of data informing the dashboard? The data sources include the World Health Organization, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the European Center for Disease Prevention and Control, the National Health Commission of the People’s Republic of China, local media reports, local health departments, and the DXY, one of the world’s largest online communities for physicians, health care professionals, pharmacies and facilities. So, again, let's agree to disagree on numbers. So, exactly what is it about the CDC's numbers that you don't agree with? I would think that you'd be dancing in the streets. Their numbers put the death rate for Covid-19 @ 6% and for Influenza @ 0.74%. You're the one that has taken great exception every time someone has compared it to the flu. It looks to me like the CDC's numbers prove your point. |
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« Reply #1519 on: May 12, 2020, 09:03:22 AM » |
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Agree to disagree?
The media (bless their hearts) has much of the population fanned into such a deeply fearful panic that the public will believe and do almost anything disregarding how illogical is what the media have presented.
If we ever reclaim our previous intellectual level this will be looked back upon as a time in which we did some incredibly stupid and damaging things for all the wrong reasons.
As to the devastating shutdowns, some recent studies regarding new cases in New York City, the hottest spot in the country, have been people who were "safely" remaining at home in their apartments.
Wash your hands. Keep unsanitized hands away from your mouth, nose and eyes. Life is terminal. COVID-19 is only one (<01%) possible cause of completion.
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