Goodyear Tire co is now in the act

[Patrick]

BLM shirts/hats are OK, MAGA/Trump hats are not.

No more of their tires for me.

[Alberta Patriot]

Is Goodyear pushing a progressive thought police agenda now? Calling for a progressive mindset policy for all it's employees?
Goodyear needs to fully, clearly and publicly state that they have no political agenda, nor have they attempted to assert any political agenda upon their employees. If they do intend to enforce this type of behavior policy going forward, I am going to research all the products they make and do a personal #Goodyear-Walkaway. There is no place in a free society for this kind of garbage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWVJ5MEyB-s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Me_vqwv8KI

[scooperhsd]

They made it a policy that no political messages on clothing in the workplace - to include Trump's MAGA ball caps.

[Alberta Patriot]

They made it a policy that no political messages on clothing in the workplace - to include Trump's MAGA ball caps.

Not so!!   From what I saw they are stating what is and is not acceptable. BLM-good...Blue lives Matter, MAGA apparel-bad. Really very plain for all to see.


They claim it may have been a "rogue branch office" that put out this garbage policy.
Then Hunt Them Down and Fire Them!!

[scooperhsd]

In that case - it should be all or none. I agree with you.

[Oss]

It makes sense as they have those blimps flying over nfl stadiums where people are kneeling

Management either is replaced with an apology or they will be out of business as US Gov will halt purchases and so will half of the USA

This is socialism  free speech only if you agree
I would hope for the sake of the employees that they take out full page ads to reverse this and announce it other places as well

I do not see antifa or blm swimming or rafting to cuba do you?   Idiots

[Oss]

Lets see if they do a Brees and reverse course.

I want the names of every executive who thought this was a good idea so I dont hire them as a secretary after they are fired

[Jersey mike]

All the “political “ BS aside, by which I mean Trump/Biden, BLM vs Blue Lives, the crux of the matter in this as far as business goes are how many law enforcement, EMS and firefighting vehicles are outfitted with Goodyear Tires. To be honest I don’t know what tires (round ones probably) would be on a heavy fire truck.

Every police vehicle I have ever seen runs on Goodyear and those tires handle the workload in every type of climate, weather condition and high speed. I’m not saying there isn’t another company that can make good tires but Goodyear has a well proven record with their tires...millions of tires in service. It would be a huge blow to them to lose police contracts and EMS contracts.

Will Firestone step up or how about Cooper? I believe Firestone has a “police “ rated tire, how much of the market they get I have no idea.

[Alberta Patriot]

All the “political “ BS aside, by which I mean Trump/Biden, BLM vs Blue Lives, the crux of the matter in this as far as business goes are how many law enforcement, EMS and firefighting vehicles are outfitted with Goodyear Tires. To be honest I don’t know what tires (round ones probably) would be on a heavy fire truck.

Every police vehicle I have ever seen runs on Goodyear and those tires handle the workload in every type of climate, weather condition and high speed. I’m not saying there isn’t another company that can make good tires but Goodyear has a well proven record with their tires...millions of tires in service. It would be a huge blow to them to lose police contracts and EMS contracts.

Will Firestone step up or how about Cooper? I believe Firestone has a “police “ rated tire, how much of the market they get I have no idea.

First off, I am waiting to see how Goodyear responds in the next coming days before advocating for a boycott. They need to be very clear where they stand. Failing to do so will be very damaging to their brand.
Apart from that, I think most tire manufacturers are capable of making a tire to whatever spec is required for a stated purpose. Goodyear has no lock on current tire technology.

[Jersey mike]

All the “political “ BS aside, by which I mean Trump/Biden, BLM vs Blue Lives, the crux of the matter in this as far as business goes are how many law enforcement, EMS and firefighting vehicles are outfitted with Goodyear Tires. To be honest I don’t know what tires (round ones probably) would be on a heavy fire truck.

Every police vehicle I have ever seen runs on Goodyear and those tires handle the workload in every type of climate, weather condition and high speed. I’m not saying there isn’t another company that can make good tires but Goodyear has a well proven record with their tires...millions of tires in service. It would be a huge blow to them to lose police contracts and EMS contracts.

Will Firestone step up or how about Cooper? I believe Firestone has a “police “ rated tire, how much of the market they get I have no idea.

First off, I am waiting to see how Goodyear responds in the next coming days before advocating for a boycott. They need to be very clear where they stand. Failing to do so will be very damaging to their brand.
Apart from that, I think most tire manufacturers are capable of making a tire to whatever spec is required for a stated purpose. Goodyear has no lock on current tire technology.

You’re correct Goodyear doesn’t have a lock on tire tech.

What they do have is probably a Billion miles of service (spread out across thousands of law enforcement agencies)  and hundreds of Millions of proven fleet tires in their history. Granted, with the budgets of most law enforcement agencies, I have never seen a law enforcement vehicle with bald tires so what that does for the the comparison is unknown.

However, if (for instance) Firestone has a tire compound that can achieve the same performance level expected in a law enforcement vehicle as the Goodyear, but with a significantly higher mileage wear and lower cost, this could be a determining factor with all the new police budget cuts and the possibility of more defunding police budgets across the nation depending on all the chaos going on and the outcome of the election.

[Serk]

First off, I am waiting to see how Goodyear responds in the next coming days before advocating for a boycott.

They responded - They claim the slide wasn't an approved one.

But then they go on to say their policy is basically exactly what the slide says.

From the response:

"To enable a work environment free of those, we ask that associates refrain from workplace expressions in support of political campaigning for any candidate or political party, as well as similar forms of advocacy that fall outside the scope of racial justice and equity issues."

Highlighted words mine. They're saying the BLM and LGBTIQCAPGNGFNBAMAP falls under "racial justice and equity issues" and thus are okay, at least from my reading of their response...

The full corporate response - https://corporate.goodyear.com/en-US/media/news/a-message-from-goodyear-to-our-customers-partners-and-associates.html

[scooperhsd]

BS. Those terms are used for political as well, and therefore should not be allowed either.

[baldo]

This is just one more in a long list of 'outrages and boycotts' that will fade away never to be heard of again. Then the teeth gnashers will find something else to get stuck in their collective craws.

[..]

This is just one more in a long list of 'outrages and boycotts' that will fade away never to be heard of again. Then the teeth gnashers will find something else to get stuck in their collective craws.

TDS??? 

[vanavyman]

Trump says the Goodyear's are coming off the Beast.  If re-elected he can make the world really bad.

[Jersey mike]

This is just one more in a long list of 'outrages and boycotts' that will fade away never to be heard of again. Then the teeth gnashers will find something else to get stuck in their collective craws.

With that being said, I’m surprised the left can spit out anything with all that they’ve tried to chew up and spit out over the last 5 years. It certainly seems the party is choking on so many topics and so called controversies they’ve attempted with zero results except the great riots, looting, burning, killing, beatings and overall demise of so many places and citizens.

[Rams]

Goodyear has a right to control what does and doesn't happen in their facilities.  Whether it's gun control issues or, freedom of speech issues.   That doesn't mean they won't suffer the consequences of some policies.   Every consumer has the right to buy from whomever they wish.  If, they care enough to support their own positions.

If one does not like the policies of a certain corporation, spend your money somewhere else.
I discovered that my previous insurance company supported certain agendas I disagree with.  I now have insurance with another insurer.   I used to wear a certain brand of jeans, I no longer wear that brand due to their support of a social agenda I do not agree with.   Your money, your choice.

There are consequences to our decisions and actions.   Same for corporations.   If you disagree with a corporation, voice your opinion with your wallet.

Rams

[f6john]

I bought my last set of Goodyear tires in the early 90’s for my then relatively new Chevy Silverado. I was driving down the interstate and all of a sudden a lot of vibration, a small amount of smoke and when I pulled over the tire was shredded all the way around the sidewall. So I get back to the Goodyear store and they determine it was my fault due to low air pressure. No punctures anywhere that could contribute to losing pressure but with the sidewall completely blown out it would be hard to hold any pressure.

So there I am with 3 practically new tires and they are expecting me to buy another tire. That’s when I determined I would never own another Goodyear product. I immediately told them where they could stick their Goodyear’s and got a real set of tires and I’ve been running Michelins ever since. Since they are still in business I don’t guess they noticed I was no longer a customer but I get great satisfaction sharing my experience every time the subject of Goodyear comes up. It’s good to see they are still tripping over their own appendages.

[Jersey mike]

Goodyear has a right to control what does and doesn't happen in their facilities.  Whether it's gun control issues or, freedom of speech issues.   That doesn't mean they won't suffer the consequences of some policies.   Every consumer has the right to buy from whomever they wish.  If, they care enough to support their own positions.

If one does not like the policies of a certain corporation, spend your money somewhere else.
I discovered that my previous insurance company supported certain agendas I disagree with.  I now have insurance with another insurer.   I used to wear a certain brand of jeans, I no longer wear that brand due to their support of a social agenda I do not agree with.   Your money, your choice.

There are consequences to our decisions and actions.   Same for corporations.   If you disagree with a corporation, voice your opinion with your wallet.

Rams

You are correct a corporation can direct what is and is not acceptable in their facilities.

However, the issue at hand is only 1 point of view is now (apparently) the acceptable option.

If person “A” is permitted to wear a Black Lives Matters piece of apparel, person “B” is not permitted to wear a Blue Live Matters piece of apparel.

I can understand a corporate policy of zero campaign attire and only work attire or uniforms in the warehouses and factories. But if this was to extend to Goodyear Service facilities, that would be wrong. I can’t believe a service mechanic would put political bias over the correct servicing and safety of a customers vehicle.

BTW I have no dog in this hunt, I stopped running Goodyear tires many years ago. All my cars have Coopers and my Ford E-150 van runs Michelin’s. The next set for my van very well may be the Coopers also. I made that switch (Cooper Discover series) on our Ford E-250 & 350 heavy duty work vans and they’ve proven themselves to be excellent tires.

[Rams]

It’s good to see they are still tripping over their own appendages.

John,
I hate having to point this out but, there is a big difference in tripping over their own appendages and lacking enough common sense to know fire is hot, water is wet and some things were simply not meant to be which includes walking without tripping over everything besides the previously described appendage.   It would help if, they just opened their eyes, remove the sound suppressors and listen.

Rams  

[The emperor has no clothes]

It's weird indeed how someone can call for so many boycotts, but go on using their products himself.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-long-list-of-things-president-trump-wants-to-boycott-from-oreos-to-goodyear-tires-and-apple-products

[Alien]

This is a non issue.  A private company can set whatever rules it wishes for the attire of it's employees.  Of course, the public is free to agree or disagree with that policy as they see fit.

Where I work, it is against policy to wear any clothing that advertises any brand, person or logo other than that of our organization.

Ride Safe,

Alien

[..]

Where I work, it is against policy to wear any clothing that advertises any brand, person or logo other than that of our organization.

Thereby showing no bias.

Do you see the difference?

[Alien]

I do.  But a private company or organization is perfectly within their rights to show bias if it wishes to do so. 


For instance: Chick-fil-A's chief operating officer Dan T. Cathy made several public statements about same-sex marriage, saying that those who "have the audacity to define what marriage is about" were "inviting God's judgment on our nation".

Here is how you all felt about that issue: http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,45621.0.html

Ride Safe,

Alien

[..]

I do.  But a private company or organization is perfectly within their rights to show bias if it wishes to do so. 


For instance: Chick-fil-A's chief operating officer Dan T. Cathy made several public statements about same-sex marriage, saying that those who "have the audacity to define what marriage is about" were "inviting God's judgment on our nation".

Here is how you all felt about that issue: http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,45621.0.html

Ride Safe,

Alien

If you are addressing me. Do so. Do not lump me in with others and putting words in my mouth.

Understand???

[Alien]

I do.  But a private company or organization is perfectly within their rights to show bias if it wishes to do so. 


For instance: Chick-fil-A's chief operating officer Dan T. Cathy made several public statements about same-sex marriage, saying that those who "have the audacity to define what marriage is about" were "inviting God's judgment on our nation".

Here is how you all felt about that issue: http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,45621.0.html

Ride Safe,

Alien

If you are addressing me. Do so. Do not lump me in with others and putting words in my mouth.

Understand???

Sorry Britman, the first sentence was answering you, the rest was for the other posters in this thread.  No offense intended.

Ride Safe,

Alien

[..]

I do.  But a private company or organization is perfectly within their rights to show bias if it wishes to do so. 


For instance: Chick-fil-A's chief operating officer Dan T. Cathy made several public statements about same-sex marriage, saying that those who "have the audacity to define what marriage is about" were "inviting God's judgment on our nation".

Here is how you all felt about that issue: http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,45621.0.html

Ride Safe,

Alien

If you are addressing me. Do so. Do not lump me in with others and putting words in my mouth.

Understand???

Sorry Britman, the first sentence was answering you, the rest was for the other posters in this thread.  No offense intended.

Ride Safe,

Alien

 

[Alberta Patriot]

Chick-fil-A...the nearest one to me is near Kalispell MT.
Damn...wish they would open one(or more) here.

[hubcapsc]

I do.

It doesn't seem so.

That I think I should get to use the Internet, but not you, that's bias.

Me stating out loud that God frowns on "murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony,
slander."  isn't bias in any way.

-Mike

[Patrick]

I've always preferred Firestore, we used to sell them. But our everyday vehicles now have 80,000 mile Goodyears. I don't think there is 10,000 miles on either set. I hate to have to go looking, but,  probably will.

[carolinarider09]

And it appears that it was not just on a slide.  Reported words spoken

Indeed, audio from the training session at the Topeka plant has been leaked to WIBW which would seem to put all doubt to rest. According to the audio, employees are instructed that they may “express their views on social justice or inequity or equity issues such as black lives matter or LGBTQ pride on their face coverings, shirts, or wristbands.” They are informed that such expression is “approved” and in accord with the “zero tolerance policy.” However, any associate who wears anything that says “all, blue, or white lives matter” will be deemed as having acted inappropriately. WIBW reports:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/walsh-leaked-audio-suggests-goodyears-discriminatory-policies-are-even-worse-than-first-reported

[Willow]

I do.  But a private company or organization is perfectly within their rights to show bias if it wishes to do so. 


For instance: Chick-fil-A's chief operating officer Dan T. Cathy made several public statements about same-sex marriage, saying that those who "have the audacity to define what marriage is about" were "inviting God's judgment on our nation".

Here is how you all felt about that issue: http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,45621.0.html 

2012?  Really?

As to your second sentence, that's true with limitations.  There are biases that are prohibited by law, but this doesn't seem to be one.

Yes, a private company may go so far as to support or not support certain other social groups but then private individuals are more than welcome to support or boycott as a result the company's choices.

For Goodyear to allow support for BLM (misnamed) but disallow support for Blue Lives Matter or MAGA is offensive to me and many others.  We will react to that as we choose.

[Alberta Patriot]

I've seen enough to convince me that Goodyear intends to stay the original SJW course of action...Do 'Thought Police' matter??...nope, time to punt Goodyear Products.

[old2soon]

        I quit using g y tires couple years ago. I WILL on the other hand inform my friends of What g y has done and let them make their own decisions. And to think a couple years ago I wuz actually looking for g y M/C tires!  RIDE SAFE.

[MarkT]

I have been saying for years - whenever anybody promoted it - that GY Triple Tred tires are positively the WORST darkside tires I ever tried.  And they ARE.  Horrible handling.  Now you afficionades of that POS tire have another reason to go Firestone instead.  "Told ya so".

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Firestone&tireModel=Transforce%20CV&partnum=975R6TCV&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes&fbclid=IwAR2eOBvHQ8iKtWzeBLbQV5Qp42nJaQgi8-Bq1OzLL3E2gk70Y-sb4Di7ihU

[Robert]

After a ham-handed attempt at damage control with a non-apology over biased "diversity" training sparked outrage from President Trump - which in turn sparked a boycott by conservatives, Goodyear CEO Rich Kramer issued a direct apology on Thursday.

"To be clear, Goodyear does not endorse any political organization, party or candidate," reads Kramer's statement, which adds that the company "strongly supports our law enforcement partners and deeply appreciates all they do to put their lives on the line each and every day for their communities."

"We have clarified our policy to make it clear associates can express support for law enforcement through apparel at Goodyear facilities," which means - no MAGA hats, but presumably means 'Blue Lives Matter' and 'All Lives Matter' attire is now acceptable.

[Rams]

After a ham-handed attempt at damage control with a non-apology over biased "diversity" training sparked outrage from President Trump - which in turn sparked a boycott by conservatives, Goodyear CEO Rich Kramer issued a direct apology on Thursday.

"To be clear, Goodyear does not endorse any political organization, party or candidate," reads Kramer's statement, which adds that the company "strongly supports our law enforcement partners and deeply appreciates all they do to put their lives on the line each and every day for their communities."

"We have clarified our policy to make it clear associates can express support for law enforcement through apparel at Goodyear facilities," which means - no MAGA hats, but presumably means 'Blue Lives Matter' and 'All Lives Matter' attire is now acceptable.

I find that interesting.   

Why they didn't just take the safe way out and say no expressions of any group allowed is beyond me in that no matter what or who you try to regulate, someone is gonna be pissed.   Ban them all and then everyone can get back to work making tires.   

Rams

[scooperhsd]

After a ham-handed attempt at damage control with a non-apology over biased "diversity" training sparked outrage from President Trump - which in turn sparked a boycott by conservatives, Goodyear CEO Rich Kramer issued a direct apology on Thursday.

"To be clear, Goodyear does not endorse any political organization, party or candidate," reads Kramer's statement, which adds that the company "strongly supports our law enforcement partners and deeply appreciates all they do to put their lives on the line each and every day for their communities."

"We have clarified our policy to make it clear associates can express support for law enforcement through apparel at Goodyear facilities," which means - no MAGA hats, but presumably means 'Blue Lives Matter' and 'All Lives Matter' attire is now acceptable.

I find that interesting.   

Why they didn't just take the safe way out and say no expressions of any group allowed is beyond me in that no matter what or who you try to regulate, someone is gonna be pissed.   Ban them all and then everyone can get back to work making tires.   

Rams

I LIKE this solution - ban them all !!!

[Patrick]

After a ham-handed attempt at damage control with a non-apology over biased "diversity" training sparked outrage from President Trump - which in turn sparked a boycott by conservatives, Goodyear CEO Rich Kramer issued a direct apology on Thursday.

"To be clear, Goodyear does not endorse any political organization, party or candidate," reads Kramer's statement, which adds that the company "strongly supports our law enforcement partners and deeply appreciates all they do to put their lives on the line each and every day for their communities."

"We have clarified our policy to make it clear associates can express support for law enforcement through apparel at Goodyear facilities," which means - no MAGA hats, but presumably means 'Blue Lives Matter' and 'All Lives Matter' attire is now acceptable.

I find that interesting.   

Why they didn't just take the safe way out and say no expressions of any group allowed is beyond me in that no matter what or who you try to regulate, someone is gonna be pissed.   Ban them all and then everyone can get back to work making tires.   

Rams

I LIKE this solution - ban them all !!!

Naaa, can't do that, it makes sense.

[Rams]

Back when I was a Production Manager, I had an employee that would wear shirts and hats that sexually orientated.    Unaware the first few times he did this, I got a complaint from someone that thought it was offensive.

I immediately pulled the Union Rep in and advised him that either he could address this or I would but, I could assure him that if I had to do it, there would be several union members irritated and they would all know that he had the first opportunity to get control of the situation.

Don't think I was afraid to take action, I just thought I should give him an opportunity.   

He did and the problem went away for a while.

Next thing I know, the same accused individual was at it again.   At that point, I put in a new "Dress Code" that applied to every person that worked on my production floor.     No printed Tee Shirts of any kind, no hats allowed, no shorts and safety toed/shank protection boots for everyone.   The company had allowed folks to pick the safety shoes they liked previous to this.   

Didn't take long for the message to sink in.   I later relaxed a few of those rules.   But, kept the no logo and no hat policy.  Moral to the story, if you want to participate in some social movement, do so on your own time, here we work.

Next came the jewelry problem.   But, that's another story...……..

Rams