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Author Topic: Some basic gunsmithing: p220 equinox with hogue G-10 grips  (Read 1435 times)
Savago
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« on: July 29, 2021, 04:35:01 PM »

Gentlemen

When I mentioned that I've acquired my first .45acp pistol (http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,108210.0.html), @Jess suggested some cool grips by Hogue.

It is being almost 2 years, but I finally managed to buy a pair of Hogue G10 (https://www.hogueinc.com/sig-p220-american-da-sa-piranha-g10-grip-gmascus-black-grey) and they look fantastic!

So I did some basic gunsmithing (errr... not really!) and replaced the grips.

The new grips feel 'grippier' (maybe thanks to the more aggressive texture vs the original black wood?).

Now got visit the range and see how they perform.
 cooldude
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Savago
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2021, 04:35:26 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2021, 04:35:44 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2021, 04:36:18 PM »

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Savago
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2021, 04:38:13 PM »

Aside the looks, two things prompted me to buy the new grips:
a) Wood gets a bit slippery during a range session during the summer.
b) I can no longer find the original grips in Sig Sauer's website (or anywhere). Dunno if they were discontinued?

That being said, the black wood original grips really complements the general Equinox aesthetics.
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2021, 05:40:14 PM »

I like the originals much better. Just me
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2021, 06:55:33 PM »

Wood is always classic, but the grip of the machined G10 is always better than wood (if you don't get smooth or low grip rated G10).  Really it's the same deal with rubber; looks poor, works great (except in concealed carry, rubber grabs too much clothing, and hinders draw).

G10 grips are always made in browns, for the traditional wood look.  

What I am not a fan of in so many auto grips (especially wood originals)(like your P220), is leaving the top of the grip smooth (and sometimes the backstrap too).  I like grip everywhere.

VZ tactical diamond grips on my N frame Smith.


VZ alien grips on my 1911.


I'd have them on a couple more, except they have the Crimson Trace laser grips, which are not my favorite grips (except for the laser part).

A nice upgrade when changing grips is to get hex head screws to replace the slotted ones.  

This is all that got added to my P220.
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Savago
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2021, 11:11:39 PM »

@Chris: One concern that I have with the original wood grips is its apparent unavailability for this specific model. The new Hogue replacement can be easily re-ordered if there is the need and that allows me to save the black wood grips if I ever have to sell my Equinox.
 Smiley

@Jess: The plan is to experiment with what will work better in the range. I also ordered the rubber grips, I'm curious to see how they will perform.

> A nice upgrade when changing grips is to get hex head screws to replace the slotted ones.  

Yep, also got the hex head screws from Hogue. :-)
https://www.hogueinc.com/sig-sauer-p220-screws-4-hex-head-black

One thing that is a pain is that I lost one of the locking washers while removing the wood grip. And it seems that Sig Sauer is rather peculiar with the size of the damn thing i.e. generic locking washers don't fit.

As a result I had to order directly from Sig's website a new set of washers.
 tickedoff

At least they are made in the USA, generating local jobs.
 cooldude
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2021, 11:47:43 AM »

My Sig 220 belongs to a rig similar to this.  (which is more to carry AR mags than a pistol, but no sense letting a holster go to waste)

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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2021, 04:42:09 AM »

Wood is always classic, but the grip of the machined G10 is always better than wood (if you don't get smooth or low grip rated G10).  Really it's the same deal with rubber; looks poor, works great (except in concealed carry, rubber grabs too much clothing, and hinders draw).

G10 grips are always made in browns, for the traditional wood look.  

What I am not a fan of in so many auto grips (especially wood originals)(like your P220), is leaving the top of the grip smooth (and sometimes the backstrap too).  I like grip everywhere.

VZ tactical diamond grips on my N frame Smith.


VZ alien grips on my 1911.


I'd have them on a couple more, except they have the Crimson Trace laser grips, which are not my favorite grips (except for the laser part).

A nice upgrade when changing grips is to get hex head screws to replace the slotted ones.  

This is all that got added to my P220.


Jess, I've ordered several of these VZ Grips recently Ruger SP101, Ruger GP101, Smith Model 66-2, Ruger Super Redhawk.
  The picture on your Smith N Frame, That looks like the my VZ320s I have on my Model 66-2. The VZ Tactical Diamond are a more aggressive texture than the 320s (for my models) They are VERY grippy due to the fact that we can cut the diamond pattern a lot sharper in the G10. (too grippy and sharp for my girlie hands) Funny thing is, they are different for EVERY model??!! I like the shape and grooves of the Colt Cobra Operator or Twister versions the best, although that tough aggressive look and grip is only available for the Colt. I have every Ruger model for all Ruger frames and the smallest (SP101) is the one I like the best, with the best fit/grip/look and would be super on my larger frame revolvers. They look nice, my fit and finish was sub par on all of them. I had to rub/file/cut them to better fit and they had some gaps. I prefer the one piece mono-grips, like Hogue as it provides better recoil protection although lacks in the looks department. Mine are all two piece leaving the hard frame exposed to pound my palm. I don't care much as mine are mostly safe queens now. The only thing we range fire is our .22 rimfire collection. Ammo and affordable shooting are days gone by.

The reason I posted is your post got me thinking and I ordered the VZ Operator II conversion grips for my round butt 66-2, maybe this will provide a little more beefiness converting to the square butt and covering the back strap. Ordered the Black Cherry which should look smart as well more beef and grip.
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2021, 11:12:02 AM »

I put a set of Hogue G10 grips on my trusty P239 a couple years back. I did appreciate the feel they provided. I saw a closeout sale on Crimson Trace laser grips about a year ago, and grabbed a set at a deeply discounted price. I was actually kind of surprised at how much I like the feel of them. I figured that to get one advantage, I would give up a different one. Not as pretty, but function > form I guess. My eyes aren't getting any younger, either, so there's that.

The only handgun I have with wood grips is my Performance Center 642. Not 100% sure who S&W got the grips from. The specs just say "custom wood". Nobody really sees them other than me, but I do like the looks of them.
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2021, 11:42:41 AM »

Yeah Ken, old eyes and iron sights become an issue. 

Add in darkness and concealed carry of small pistolas, and crimson trace red dots on target is a major assist.  And you never know, if the idiot sees the dot on his face and runs his ass off, it's a win, win (saving precious ammo).

My new best buddy has the Crimson Trace under the trigger guard (not the grips, which cannot be changed).  He goes everywhere with me.

 
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Ken aka Oil Burner
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2021, 11:54:44 AM »

Yeah Ken, old eyes and iron sights become an issue. 

Add in darkness and concealed carry of small pistolas, and crimson trace red dots on target is a major assist.  And you never know, if the idiot sees the dot on his face and runs his ass off, it's a win, win (saving precious ammo).

My new best buddy has the Crimson Trace under the trigger guard (not the grips, which cannot be changed).  He goes everywhere with me.

 

I have a similar setup on my Shield, which is my usual Summer carry. It's a light/laser combo, which I have set on the strobe position. Any little bit helps.
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