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Sorry to bring the Darkside "discussion" to our lovely local board, but quite frankly, ya'll are the ones I interact with the most, and the ones I trust the most since I get to meet ya'll in person and such...
Time for a new rear tire for the Valk... Was about to dutifully order another rear Avon, but noticed they've gone well over $200 now, closer to $220... Yeowch! When did THAT happen???
So... Might be time to finally give this new fangled darkside thing a try...
I know this question has been asked a hundred thousand times, but now it's my turn to ask it, and asking it amongst friends here (Daniel, I hope you specifically are reading! I almost PM'ed you instead of posting this, but wanted a wider audience, but not TOO wide if ya' know what I mean!)
Which tire? Want best and safest handling, and minimal if any modifications to the bike. Keep in mind me rear fender has an extra piece of 1/4 plate welded to the underside of it...
Where do I get it? I've got a friend that works at Pep Boys, so I can prolly get tires at a decent price locally from him assuming they carry the one I'm after... But if there's a better source, I'm all ears... Places that have the magic brown truck bring it to me with no muss and no fuss always get a bonus.
Where to get it mounted? I CAN remove the rear tire myself, but I get annoyed doing it... Anyone know which shops near here will mount a darkside tire without giving you a 3 hour lecture about it? (Closer to Rowlett/Rockwall, the better) Preferably in a "ride the bike in, ride the bike out" way...
Thanks ya'll!
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2010, 09:23:39 AM » |
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P.S. For the OTHER side of this discussion, I am already aware that going darkside will make my wife leave me, my girlfriend cheat on me, my mistress charge more, my clutch slip, and my dog will die... I'm ready for that, not worried about the "if" side of the discussion, on to the "how" side... Thanks!  |
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2010, 09:24:11 AM » |
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I'll be monitoring this thread, as I was considering the same thing and had some of the same questions.  |
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2010, 10:01:21 AM » |
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Serk, I have the Goodyear Assurance Triple Tread and I like it. It is whisper quiet and handles great in wet or dry. I have almost 20K on the tire now and it appears to have at least 10K left on it. I bought mine at Discount tire in Plano but they have stores everywhere or you can buy that tire almost anywhere. I can't help you with the information where to have it installed; I had a friend help me and we did it in my driveway. Welcome to the Darkside; you'll never go back! I am already aware that going darkside will make my wife leave me, my girlfriend cheat on me, my mistress charge more, my clutch slip, and my dog will die... Don't forget about the super nova's. |
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2010, 10:09:04 AM » |
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Serk,
I don't think you can go wrong with any directional SYMETRICAL treaded tire. The most poplular seems to be the Goodyear Assurance Triple Tread. I'm running this tire and it's great.
Most run a 205mm wide tire.
A 205/55 tire will give you the most clearance, but will lower your bike and increase your RPM about 10%.
A 205/60 is close to the stock diameter. Keeps the same height, leaves the RPM alone. Some people have to do the nut cage mod to run this tire without rubbing.
A 205/65 will make the bike sit a little higher and will lower your RPMs. You'll have to do the nut cage mod for clearance.
By the way, it's the sidewall that rubs, not the tread.
I found that by stiffening up the shocks some and running around 40 psi, the only differences I experience between DS and MC are positive.
Discount Tire mounted my tire for me, but could not balance it. Denton Cycle Center would not mount it, but balanced it after I signed a crash-and-burn waiver. Total cost less than $150.
I also run Ride On tire sealant and balancing compound and it is truly great stuff.
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2010, 10:22:34 AM » |
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I use a 205/55 Michelin HydroEdge. They are about $120. Local car tire shop mounts them on my Valk wheel for under $10. Looks like this one will go about 40K miles.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2010, 12:29:40 PM » |
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I'm on my second Goodyear Triple Tread, 205-60. It works great for
me. My current one has 17,000 miles and it's got plenty left. I had to
do the nut cage mod and the fender bolt mod to keep it from rubbing
when 2-up. On my '03 (RIP) I only had to do the nut cage. I can drag
my pegs (seldom do) or cruise down the highway comfortably regardless
of weather. Local independent shop mounted/balanced mine for $25.
Can't remember how much I paid for the tire, but it's considerably less
than a bike tire.
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2010, 12:39:09 PM » |
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we're running the General Tire Altimax on 3 bikes now. This is the same tire Wizard was running when he had a valve stem blow completely out. He was on the freeway, and left the road quite unexpectedly when it happened. He decided to limp on to where his son was working, so he started riding carefully. 30, 35, 40, 45 mph, no problem. Finally got up on the freeway, running 70ish, no problem. He was so focused on the tire, he overshot his exit and had to go miles to a turnaround. Said it was a bit hard to handle on the turns, but he ended up putting riding quite some distance without a valve stem. Air pressure? Right.
Tire was not damaged. A new valve stem and he was on his way.
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2010, 02:40:29 PM » |
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HEY SERK! I am going darkside when my tread is gone. Payless Tires at the corner of hwy 78 and first st in Garland told me they will mount the tire if I pull the wheel
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2010, 03:07:31 PM » |
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HEY SERK! I am going darkside when my tread is gone. Payless Tires at the corner of hwy 78 and first st in Garland told me they will mount the tire if I pull the wheel
Hey Ghillie - If I get my tire and get it ready (Tirerack has the Goodyear Assurance Triple Tread 205/60R16 for $122 each, doing some more research, my buddy at Pep Boys can't get 'em at all), wanna have a formal or informal wrench day at your place (Or my place) to remove our rear tires, get 'em mounted and balanced and put 'em back on? |
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we had great luck with the Bridgestone Fusion. (($60) mount it ourselves(bought tools) my old man used to mount monster truck tires, and big rig trailer tires, can pretty much balance it by putting it on right. REMEMBER!!!! when going to a darkside tire, check the thickness of the sidewall, so it's not gonna fold on you, and keep the tire pressure btn 40 to 45, no lower, or it will buckle on you!
take a full day, riding on all types of surfaces and roads to get used to it. It's not a motorcycle tire, so it'll corner differently! But the plus side is, longer wear, less money, more rubber on the road! Gone darkside 5 years ago, after going thru dunlop(org. tire) avon, metzler(yeah, w ride A LOT!)
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2010, 05:31:19 PM » |
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I do alot of business with payless, $600-1000 a month, I will also check the price. An informal wrench party would be fine. We can meet at the shop and you can tell me all about the VSG. I noticed they finally killed the old website.
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2010, 06:59:23 PM » |
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Ghillie - The deal with the VSG wasn't so much with the VSG itself, it was more to do with those who take flying colors VERY seriously vs. non-biker types ("us") flying colors... There was an incident once, I'll tell ya' about it if ya' like...
Lemme know whatcha hear from the tire place, I'll put off ordering it online until I hear what they'll do for you/us...
Thanks!
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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2010, 07:42:14 PM » |
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Definitely want to hear about it. I am guessing they did not go with the Texas COC and were not sporting a support your local Bandidos patch
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2010, 07:45:03 PM » |
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2010, 08:07:25 PM » |
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Ghillie - The deal with the VSG wasn't so much with the VSG itself, it was more to do with those who take flying colors VERY seriously vs. non-biker types ("us") flying colors... There was an incident once, I'll tell ya' about it if ya' like...
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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2010, 08:45:19 PM » |
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I noticed Hot Glue was VSG as well. Probably has the same story. I really hope I can make the BBQ, I probably won't know until Friday of that weekend.
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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2010, 09:24:17 PM » |
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(Edit - Moved my story about the VSG to the current VSG thread) So... Back on the darkside thing...  I'm NOT a mechanic, although I do most of the stuff on my Valk myself... Last time I had a rear put on in the middle of a trip, the place that did it said my -mumble mumble- on my rear wheel was about shot and prolly wouldn't make it to the next tire change. That was last spring, and I can't for the life of me remember what the -mumble mumble- was... Since I know it's the Achilles heel of the Valkyrie, and I think I've only replaced it once before in 96,000 miles, I'm assuming the thing I need to replace is the Flange? (Part number - 42630-MT8-305 ), part reference # 8 on this diagram - http://www.hdlparts.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=148101&category=MOTORCYCLES&make=HONDA&year=1998&fveh=3466Does that sound right? Wanna get everything I'm gonna need ordered and here before we try to make this happen. Hate HATE getting 3 hours into a project and then finding out I need to wait 2 weeks because no one local has some little widget or another... |
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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2010, 07:33:46 AM » |
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You will probably need to order them, but I would replace the five dampers if you have not already. All the o-rings and thrust washer are always good spares to have on hand. Upgrade the valve stem to a bolt on while you are at it, Brian.
If you are going to keep your Valk forever you could go ahead and replace the pinion cup and drive shaft (and might as well do the u-joint while you are in there) to avoid the inevitable on the road failure. Keep the take offs for back-up in case the new stuff fails around 300K! ~Jeff
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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2010, 08:25:37 AM » |
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I've been a dark-sider for over 2 years (25,000 miles) and will never go back to the low mileage, over-priced motorcycle specific tires for the rear of my Valk.
You will find, however, that with the car tire you do have to use a little more pressure to lean into the turns. Unlike a motorcycle tire this guy wants to sit up straight and resists the leaning. But, I think after a few miles and several turns you'll probably decide it's no-big-deal and you'll definitely appreciate the additional tire suface when it comes to stability and braking...
just my opinion.
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Oh, and by the way, make sure that you tell whoever mounts it for you to be verrrrrry careful of your rear brake rotor! If they're not used to mounting bike tires they could easily damage it.
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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2010, 08:33:17 AM » |
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Serk, I went DS in October, when my Avon was on it's second nail  I bought a Goodyear Triple-tread 205-60 at Discount for $132 walk out, and if I had removed the brake disc he would have mounted it for me. Found a small local MC shop that did it for $35 (then I was told of a place about $20 in gas away that would do it for $5). I had already done the nutcage because it was crooked and I couldn't get the bolts back in... I am also using Dyna Beads, so I hope I don't cause a catastrophic climate change with that combo! But hey, it is getting close to 2012!  Made a 150 mile ride yesterday, smooth as silk on the DS/DB combo! And if you want to ride the fence a little longer, there is a free Avon in the classifieds, just pay shipping (if it isn't gone yet). ---------- For Sale Posted on: 03/09/10 Item: Rear Avon Venom Tire Price: none Location: Angleton, TX, US Email: rbbhart@cmaaccess.comDescription I have a rear tire about one third worn out with lots of miles left that I received extra when i bought my valk. yours FREE if you pay shipping. --------- Mike "Dodis" |
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Made more than 10000 miles with my General Altimax 205/55/16 rear tire. I`m sure it can make at least another 10000. I have to admit that the bike handles different. At low speed and sharp turns (roundabouts and such) I have to "work with the bike". I have two rear rims, one with a CT and one with a MC tire. For local riding I use the MC tire and for looong rides I use the CT. I made this video last summer:
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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2010, 05:12:23 AM » |
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Serk, I run a yokahama, if you will get a tire with the run flat feture, the side walls are a little stiffer but if it loses air you can keep going....K&G tires on the web.........Mine was 100.00.......and for 12.00 extra if anything happens to the tire ,they will replace it free.just a thought for you to look at ...Bogator
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« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2010, 12:27:54 PM » |
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we're running the General Tire Altimax on 3 bikes now. This is the same tire Wizard was running when he had a valve stem blow completely out. He was on the freeway, and left the road quite unexpectedly when it happened. He decided to limp on to where his son was working, so he started riding carefully. 30, 35, 40, 45 mph, no problem. Finally got up on the freeway, running 70ish, no problem. He was so focused on the tire, he overshot his exit and had to go miles to a turnaround. Said it was a bit hard to handle on the turns, but he ended up putting riding quite some distance without a valve stem. Air pressure? Right.
Tire was not damaged. A new valve stem and he was on his way.
That sold me ....
He was probably running nitrogen in it. The larger molecules don't come out of the valve stem quite as fast. (using ambient air in Pasadena works even better. The chunks of air can stay in a tire for hours after you break the bead, even.) |
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No, just compressor O2. 45 miles with no air, shocked me and no tire damage !
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« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2010, 03:40:01 PM » |
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He was probably running nitrogen in it. The larger molecules don't come out of the valve stem quite as fast.
(using ambient air in Pasadena works even better. The chunks of air can stay in a tire for hours after you break the bead, even.)
First, there was NO VALVE STEM. Period. Even nitrogen could fall out of the hole that was left there. Second, you've seen my little tire compressor in the barn -- it just pumps good old just-outside-of-Houston country air. Don't think I'll see you Wednesday, so Happy St Patty's to you! |
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I'm back.. Thought I'd chime in here. I caught a nail at about 85 on the beltway about, oh, 3 weeks after obtaining my 00 Interstate. Was the scariest thing ever and luckily made it off the freeway before the bead broke and I had to fight for my life to keep the bike upright. I was NOT going to pay 200 bucks for a replacement avon that a) would be worthless after another road hazard (in the middle of the tire I might add) and b) could slip off the bead so easily. Darkside appealed to me for that reason, plus the double or triple the mileage, out of a tire that could more easily and safely be repaired, not to mention was cheaper to begin with. I went with the 55 series in the hopes to not have to modify things but ended up having to do the nutcage mod anyway (frankly, makes more sense anyway...) to get rid of some rubbing. I bought the tire, with the road hazard and treadlife warranty at discount tire. I figure if I catch a nail in the sidewall, its worth it. (Especially given the knowledge I just discovered that they will do the work if I take off the brake rotor!!) I've got 20k on it and you can't tell that I've gone 10. I only had the bike 3 weeks so the changes for me were noticable but it was more akin to the change of bikes I had just made rather than anything bad. I was riding a 1200 bandit and a 650 hyosung cruiser, both really like flickable bikes that weighed about half of my I/S. The addition of the car tire was minor in comparison...but it is a good example of the difference, I think. Conclusion is, would I do it again? YES! The only thing I would change is that I would have done a 60 series from the beginning. |
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I keep looking at this one on ebay 205/65-16 Falken Ziex ZE-512 Item number: 360225566969 Every now and then they go on sale for ~$76. I keep waiting for the stars to align for it to be on sale and I have a ebay bucks certificate.  I'm gonna have to do something soon as the Metz is starting to show some wear. They seem to go pretty quickly once ya notice the wear. Jim |
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« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2010, 03:13:02 PM » |
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Picked up a Goodyear Assurance Triple Tread 205/60/16 today... Discount Tire get kinda confused when you walk in and buy ONE tire, no mount, no nothing!
Now, I just need to figure out how I'm getting the thing on the bike, and the nut cage mod...
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If you'd taken in the rim, Discount Tire should have mounted it for you. Wizard has had several done at Discount Tire and never even has to remove the rear rotor.
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« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2010, 12:03:51 AM » |
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Thanks for all the input, encouragement, and help! And to those who offered to physically help me pull this off, I sincerely thank you... But... I got a wild hair Friday night, and next thing I knew it the rear tire was off...  I've got a buddy that works at Pep Boys... I brought him the wheel and tire. He said he'd happily mount it, but the motorcycle wheel wouldn't fit on their balancing machine, he couldn't balance it for me... So, this morning I took it to Rockwall Honda, who mounted the Darkside tire without batting an eye, and no lecture or anything, they just did it... Did the nutcage mod, glopped a ton of moly paste on the gears, and got the tire mounted back up tonight...  Unfortunately, looks like it'll be Monday 'till I get a test ride. It's snowing like crazy here!  Supposed to be in the 70's on Monday though... Normally I wouldn't mind a little wet and cold, but not really the ideal circumstance for me to take my very first Darkside ride... |
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« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2010, 11:51:18 AM » |
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Well, Serk, you inspired me. I went and bought a spare rim last night on fleabay. I want to have both available to me at any given time. If I decide later that I don't need the spare, I'll sell it. Lata, Hay  Jimmyt |
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« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2010, 01:20:31 PM » |
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Heh...I'm a bit late to this thread...sorry Serk...been out of town all week...
How were your splines?
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« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2010, 03:26:56 PM » |
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I went and bought a spare rim last night on fleabay. I want to have both available to me at any given time.
I considered that, but if I started switching back and forth, I'm worried I wouldn't reach my maximum proficiency on either. Even when just switching between old to new motorcycle tires, it takes me a few hundred miles to really get used to a new one, so I wouldn't wanna be in a constant of flux between MC and Darkside, so decided to go with just one... Heh...I'm a bit late to this thread...sorry Serk...been out of town all week...
How were your splines?
It's all good Danial... They looked good to me, but I really don't know what to look for. The teeth were deep, and sharp, they didn't look rounded off or anything to my untrained eye. They were still covered in grease from the last time, and I added a big glop of fresh moly paste to it. Oh, and your handiwork several years ago is still holding up nicely, and is far enough up and outta the way I don't think it'll be any issue with the darkside tire... Even with several inches of global warming on the ground this morning, I couldn't help it, I went for a short test ride. Maybe 15 minutes. I see what ya'll have been saying about having to be more forceful with steering input, and it's definitely a different experience on angled roadways (I.E. Alleys) but over all, it doesn't seem to be any major difference I can't adapt to... So... Who do I see about getting my "official" Darkside number now?  |
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Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away... IBA# 22107 VRCC# 7976 VRCCDS# 226 1998 Valkyrie Standard 2008 Gold Wing Taxation is theft. μολὼν λαβέ |
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« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2010, 06:36:25 PM » |
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YOU NEVER SEE A MOTORCYCLE PARKED OUTSIDE OF A PSYCHITRIST'S OFFICE.
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« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2010, 07:57:42 PM » |
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« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2010, 08:35:58 PM » |
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trying this for the first time! thinking about the darkside. anyone used abridgestone potenza go19 grid ? seems to fit all requirements I've read about the darkside I'm on a 97(red&white)
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SideCar
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« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2010, 07:52:18 AM » |
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Dag - Very cool video!
Serk - You'll get used to it fast. Be careful as you get used to surfing up and down the sides of ruts trucks have left in old blacktop roads.
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