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BnB Tom
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« on: May 18, 2010, 05:29:06 AM »

Well, I did make it home from the fork party in one piece in spite of the fact that
                                                                                       my front brakes pads are AWOL.

Time to replace but would like some input on OEM vs. whatever else is out there.

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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2010, 07:42:17 AM »

1 vote for OEM for the ability to stay quiet while working.
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2010, 07:46:56 AM »

If your OEM rotors are still good, use OEM pads.  If your OEM rotors are shot, the less-expensive GL1800 front rotors will fit the Valkyrie, but are thinner.  If your rotors are shot and you go aftermarket, get the pads from the same company.  EBC rotors / EBC pads.  Galfer rotors / Galfer pads.
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2010, 08:23:24 PM »

If your OEM rotors are still good, use OEM pads.  If your OEM rotors are shot, the less-expensive GL1800 front rotors will fit the Valkyrie, but are thinner.  If your rotors are shot and you go aftermarket, get the pads from the same company.  EBC rotors / EBC pads.  Galfer rotors / Galfer pads.

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Absolutely.

A lesson learned the hard way.
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2010, 04:58:52 AM »

OEM it is.  Wife graciously picked em up for me at Maxim yesterday.

     Hmmm.   As my two-up partner, you'd think she had something at stake here wouldn't you.  Grin
         
     
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2010, 05:22:08 AM »

We just put EBC pads on stock rotors on Joe's bike.  Right now seems OK with much better stopping power.  Is that gonna lead to problems later? L
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2010, 07:27:53 AM »

I had put EBC'S all the around and they work pretty good for stopping capacity , but I noticed my rear rotor is grooved out in a circular pattern to where I can barley catch a groove with my finger nail .... I wonder if these EBC pads are too harsh for the rear rotors ?  but there is no noise at all ... cooldude are there anyother pads out there besides EBC's that are just as good but not as harsh ?
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2010, 08:19:07 AM »

Doc & Geez,

I assume (I know, I know) that, considering Valkpilot's new EBC rotors destroyed new OEM pads in 500 miles, EBC pads will do a similar job to OEM rotors.  I'm not sure, but it would make sense. 

Go to the Tech Board and use the Search function for brake pads.  There are a number of threads about brakes that contain a bunch of really good information.  Here's one that came up in my search results.  http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,13708.0.html 
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2010, 08:44:20 PM »

I had put EBC'S all the around and they work pretty good for stopping capacity , but I noticed my rear rotor is grooved out in a circular pattern to where I can barley catch a groove with my finger nail .... I wonder if these EBC pads are too harsh for the rear rotors ?  but there is no noise at all ... cooldude are there anyother pads out there besides EBC's that are just as good but not as harsh ?

That groove you're feeling will become deeper.  You'll eventually have a fairly significant lip around the edge of the rotor.

I wore out my stock rotors running EBC pads.  Then, I switched to EBC rotors and used stock pads and ate up a set of new front pads in less than 1000 miles.  Brakes were working properly, it's just differences in either the hardness and/or the coefficient of friction of the two brands.  The link Frisco Dave posted will lead to some pictures I posted.

I've got EBC rotors and EBC pads now and all is good after several thousand miles.

Note: this all assumes sintered pads, not organic, e.g., Kevlar pads.  Organic pads are much easier on rotors, but don't have the same bite unless they are already hot, and therefore increase your stopping distance.
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2010, 08:37:50 AM »

Valkpilot, would you have the source and part number of the EBC rotors you installed?  Mine are pretty worn and I don't know if I want to replace them with the 1800 Wing rotors or EBC.

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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2010, 03:50:00 PM »

O E M .....   cooldude
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2010, 07:50:27 PM »

Valkpilot, would you have the source and part number of the EBC rotors you installed?  Mine are pretty worn and I don't know if I want to replace them with the 1800 Wing rotors or EBC.

Thanks,

Hay  Cool
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I got mine from Honda Direct Line.

Fronts: HDL part number EBC-171004, mfg part number MD1014X, price $225 each (x 2)
Rear: HDL part number EBC-MD1077, mfg part number MD1077, price $158

Note: my Valk is 1998. Make sure you specify your year as later-model (2000 - 2003?) rear rotors are different.

I don't see them online at HDL.  I think I called.

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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2010, 05:23:22 AM »

  Even tho this job was probably 'above my pay grade' too, it was a piece of cake.

            

         Now I just need to inspect the rears . .



                                                                

    
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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2010, 06:06:27 AM »

 Even tho this job was probably 'above my pay grade' too, it was a piece of cake.
    

 2funny Seems to me whether I'm "wrenching" or "watching", the wrench party pay is always $00.00.
I take that back, one time it was $000.00.  2funny

And in your pic, the guy in the red is just a little too close for comfort!  crazy2
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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2010, 06:14:09 AM »

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And in your pic, the guy in the red is just a little too close for comfort!

Either that or he's teaching the guy in blue what's like to ride something other than a Valkyrie!   Shocked
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