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Serk your stuck  How about this a label as a Christian is just that a label just like measles is a label for a disease that has certain symptoms. Does the label come first or the disease? Are you a Christian because of the label or are you a Christian because you follow the Lord and have a real relationship with Him? Just like the disease there are ones that mimic the symptoms but is it really the measles? Religion follows the law in the Bible, Christians read the Bible to get closer to their savior to find out His exploits and what kind of person is He and what He desires and wants us to do. To follow the law all you need is a brain to follow the Lord all you need is the desire to know Him. I hate to say it but if you read the Bible and hold people up to what it says you will dimly see how far they are off the mark. |
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Yep, it’s all in there!! All written by a few 70 year old guys that wandered around selling a religion. Not to mention when the bible was later put together from many many different manuscripts, the ones that did not show a favor to the emerging church were left out. What does age have to do with it? Even though "back then" 70 was still young (Old Testament) and I don't think the Discilples were in their 70's (New Testament). If they were, that makes the Bible even MORE impressive!! That they were so impressed with Jesus and His teaching that a bunch of "old men" would walk hundreds of miles thru deserts to help Him spread His Word!!! Awesome!!!! |
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This is an all-too-commonly held, narrow-minded excuse some people use so they can pretty
much do what they want. There IS only one God, the Creator of the universe. The ONLY
living God. He sent His Son to earth on a mission. I'm pretty sure "reincarnation" isn't mentioned
in the Bible. Hinduism is just another religion. Christianity is not about religion at all. I'm not
trying to convince you of anything, God gave you free will to believe what you want. I don't
know of any religion that can get you to Heaven. A religion can "help", they might point you
in the right direction, but that's as far as they can go. It's all in the Bible.
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Your reply is very cult-like. You are simply substituting religious dogma for reasoned thought. This type of response exemplifies my original post, in that religion was created to control your life in an inflexible way. Maybe some day you can recover from your trance, and open your eyes. Gee, maybe you're right. Prove it and we can discuss it further. Should be simple for someone like you, right? BTW, the people that "created" my "religion" are long since gone....so who's controlling my life now?  |
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Gee, maybe you're right. Prove it and we can discuss it further. Should be simple for someone like you, right? BTW, the people that "created" my "religion" are long since gone....so who's controlling my life now? Prove it? Prove what? That God doesn’t exist? That’s the oldest trick in the “Argumentum ad Ignorantiam” crowd’s book, challenging the other person to prove a negative. You are controlled by the religious dogma of your choosing. It is written, and you obey, no questions asked. That is exactly how it was intended. |
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It really boils down to this, we either have a creator that created us or we don't! If we don't then all of this is a colossal waste of cosmic energy and we are all just worm food OR God really does exist, and you will stand before Him to account for your life on earth, when you die! It's your life for you to decide what to do with it! Remeber this one thing, It is a grievous sin indeed to be granted the gift of life, only to return it unused! |
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Prove it? Prove what? That God doesn’t exist? That’s the oldest trick in the “Argumentum ad Ignorantiam” crowd’s book, challenging the other person to prove a negative.
You're 1/2 right. It's tied for being the oldest with "Prove God DOES exist". You are controlled by the religious dogma of your choosing. It is written, and you obey, no questions asked. That is exactly how it was intended.
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It really boils down to this, we either have a creator that created us or we don't! If we don't then all of this is a colossal waste of cosmic energy and we are all just worm food OR God really does exist, and you will stand before Him to account for your life on earth, when you die! It's your life for you to decide what to do with it! Remeber this one thing, It is a grievous sin indeed to be granted the gift of life, only to return it unused! If we all quit worrying about which religion is the right one, and how we are to be judged after we die, and instead lived our lives and treated others the way we would all love and deserved to be treated, then the world would truly be a better place. It is a fact that more people have died in this world trying to prove that their religion was the better or more perfect one. The reason so many different religions exist is that if there were only one, then there could only be a few people in charge, and that does not sit well with the ones that were not in charge. So, let's create another religion, and that creates another leader! I was raised Roman Catholic at a time that this religion was not very tolerant of others (the fire and brimstone period) and taught that you could not go to heaven if you were not Roman Catholic. I would lay awake at night worrying that my best friends, who were Protestant, would burn in hell forever! How is that good for a young boy to believe? I believe in God, and live my life accordingly. I feel most comfortable in a Non-Denominational environement where nobody has anything to prove!  |
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If we all quit worrying about which religion is the right one, and how we are to be judged after we die, and instead lived our lives and treated others the way we would all love and deserved to be treated, then the world would truly be a better place. It is a fact that more people have died in this world trying to prove that their religion was the better or more perfect one. The reason so many different religions exist is that if there were only one, then there could only be a few people in charge, and that does not sit well with the ones that were not in charge. So, let's create another religion, and that creates another leader! I was raised Roman Catholic at a time that this religion was not very tolerant of others (the fire and brimstone period) and taught that you could not go to heaven if you were not Roman Catholic. I would lay awake at night worrying that my best friends, who were Protestant, would burn in hell forever! How is that good for a young boy to believe? I believe in God, and live my life accordingly. I feel most comfortable in a Non-Denominational environement where nobody has anything to prove! Very well spoken indeed! |
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Given the information that we believe to be fact about the age of the earth, and the history of man that we can factually account for, you have to ask yourself is this all there is? Your born, you "do your thing" for as many years as you can squeeze out, you die, end of story???
I won't bore anyone with what I believe, but regardless of your religion or lack thereof, most of us on this board have at best 40 years left to breath the air and watch the sun rise and set. If man has a spirit that lives on after our physical life is over we will have ample time to decide who had it right.
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...OR God really does exist, and you will stand before Him to account for your life on earth, when you die! How do you know that? Why should God, if it exists, demand an accounting, or even care? And is it a "Him", with balls and such? Wow!! SE from Saigon signs in too!! I thought you were banded from this website! People are really into this whole religion thing aren’t they! Amazing, there’s more proof that bigfoot exists then there is that there’s a god, but people will kill for 72 virgins, or torture you to death if you don’t bow to “him”. Since I’ve accepted the fact that no matter what, I will end up dead in the end, life has become more relaxing. So instead of feeling guilty for what I haven’t done, I’m going to just enjoy life for a change, and if I chose to do weed (never have) or for some odd desire to take it up the you know were, I’ll be okay with myself. From what I’ve experienced, life is too short to live it in such a way to gain favor from some entity no one has ever seen. If I remember correctly, it’s all going to end two years from now on December 12th anyway!! |
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All the posts are interesting and religion does seem to be a hot topic but again why argue religion with the ones that you know are so against it and yet have no real knowledge of what is possible?
Luk 16:22 "Now the poor man died and was carried away by the angels to Abraham's bosom; and the rich man also died and was buried.
Luk 16:23 "In Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and *saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom.
Luk 16:24 "And he cried out and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame.'
Luk 16:25 "But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that during your life you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and you are in agony.
Luk 16:26 'And besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you will not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us.'
Luk 16:27 "And he said, 'Then I beg you, father, that you send him to my father's house--
Luk 16:28 for I have five brothers--in order that he may warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'
Luk 16:29 "But Abraham *said, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.'
Luk 16:30 "But he said, 'No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent!'
Luk 16:31 "But he said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.'"
Its really amazing to me how timeless the Bible is and is able to talk about situations even today. Oh a great example of just plain blind stupidity is the David Cross skit. If the Bible has been rewritten so many times and translated and well as he was implying adulterated how is it that all the phrophicies(future predictions) in the Bible have come true so far. Exactly the way the Bible said they would. The odds on all the things the Bible said would happen the way the Bible said they would happen coming true in some cases are not even able to compute the odds of that happening. If this skit were true that would even raise the odds higher and even confirm more the truth of the Bible. I liken this skit and the thinking behind it to people that will text while driving no matter what you say and sometimes to their own hurt and others too they just keep on doing it. Yet when they kill someone they say what happened? what can you do? Not bad people but they just dont get it.
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Its really amazing to me how timeless the Bible is and is able to talk about situations even today. Oh a great example of just plain blind stupidity is the David Cross skit. If the Bible has been rewritten so many times and translated and well as he was implying adulterated how is it that all the phrophicies(future predictions) in the Bible have come true so far. Exactly the way the Bible said they would. The odds on all the things the Bible said would happen the way the Bible said they would happen coming true in some cases are not even able to compute the odds of that happening. If this skit were true that would even raise the odds higher and even confirm more the truth of the Bible. I liken this skit and the thinking behind it to people that will text while driving no matter what you say and sometimes to their own hurt and others too they just keep on doing it. Yet when they kill someone they say what happened? what can you do? Not bad people but they just dont get it.
The idea that Bible prophecies have come true in recent times is simply a myth conjured up in your own mind. And the only record of past miracles is in the same book that proclaimed it. Circular reasoning at it’s best! The Bible is written with extremely vague metaphors. They can easily be taken in any context the reader wishes. If you have done any research on the KJ version of the Bible, you will see the basis of the comedy sketch you dismissed as stupidity. This is how fortunetellers work on gullible customers [mystic voice] “You will meet a stranger who will change your life…” [/mystic voice] |
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Wrong again. I don't follow a religion. If I disobey or question something, you've still not provided an answer to who "controls" me. If God didn't exist, I could do anything and not have to answer for it..by your "reasoning". We're way past the point of "I believe this...you believe that". I will confess till I breathe my last that Jesus is my Lord and Savior. I hope that whole "burn in Hell for eternity" thing works out for you. I probably won't answer any more to this thread..unless it's something REALLY scary that needs addressed!! You claim you don’t follow a religion, yet your posts follow in lockstep with religious doctrine. You clearly admit you limit your actions based on religious restrictions. You further demonstrate your adherence to a religion by believing that I will spend eternity in a scary, terrible place, invented by the originators of a religion. Even though the people who formed the religion you follow are dead, you are still controlled by their writings. |
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Bobbo I will not lay out what I know for you to try to tear down. Your not interested in learning and offer no proof to the contrary to support your point. Just the same tired lame point of view. I was a seeker and found the answers I know the truth and have nothing to prove nor anyone to convince. What I share I do for the betterment of anyone that wants to find out. If you want to believe its all smoke and mirrors I can live with that. If you want to try to take someone with you I have a problem with that. Thats pretty much what my answer was all about.
Mat 7:6 "Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
The Bible pretty much address all issues.
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All the posts are interesting and religion does seem to be a hot topic but again why argue religion with the ones that you know are so against it and yet have no real knowledge of what is possible? Ah, Robert - your eyes are blind to reality...most of us atheists aren't "so against it". We merely don't buy into it, and see it as stupid, superstitious crap. What we ARE against, is having that crap shoved down our throats, every time we turn around. To us, it's no different than you telling us Santa Claus, or the Easter Bunny, or goblins, ad infinitum, are real, and tell us they're real every day. You say you KNOW that there's a god, and heaven, and all the other stuff that goes with it. You don't "KNOW" that there is, any more than I "KNOW" that there isn't. All I KNOW is that men wrote the bible. Nothing more. And men change things at will, to accommodate themselves. You can say that some god guided them all you want. That's your "belief". But I don't have ANY belief. Christians like to say that atheists "believe" there's no god. Yet they "know" there IS a god. You are MORE than welcome to your beliefs. Just keep them out of MY life... Its really amazing to me how timeless the Bible is and is able to talk about situations even today. Oh a great example of just plain blind stupidity is the David Cross skit. If the Bible has been rewritten so many times and translated and well as he was implying adulterated how is it that all the phrophicies(future predictions) in the Bible have come true so far.
I have seen NO "predictions" in the bible whatsoever. Oh, there's a lot of vague generalities, but I've never seen specifics. Things are going to happen with the flip of a coin, 50-50. I've heard "half the prophesies have come true!! The rest are bound to come true!!". Only if YOU want them to. Then again, that fortune teller - something Dixon? - was "correct" half the time, too. Reminds me of a guy in the Navy with my father - he'd take $20, and guarantee you'd pass your test for your next rank, or he'd give you your money back. A certain number would pass, no matter what, the rest, he'd just give the $20 back...money for nothing. I can make the prophecy that the sun will come up tomorrow. Pretty safe bet. If you agree with me, and the sun comes up tomorrow, you can all follow me, because "I am the ONE!!", I can guarantee the sun will come up tomorrow!! Of course, if it doesn't, it doesn't matter, anyway. People have made up gods since day one. It's evident in the caves all over the world. Just that the one that so many believe in, stuck. I can't see any difference between believing in god at 40, than believing in the Tooth Fairy at 4. And other that what people "feel" in their heart, I don't see any more evidence. I usually get "look all around you - that's PROOF that god exists!!". I see the same things - I see the beauty. I just don't consider that "proof" of a god, just of nature. You will not change my mind, nor I change yours. But, I respect your beliefs, even if I don't feel that they are warranted. However, I DO have to draw the line, when every time I turn around, I see reference to it, and arguments for it, shoved in my face. I curdle when I see bible references every time I look at anything. But then, I don't have some doctrine that tells me I have to go forth and spread the word... I have read HUGE portions of the bible. Not the whole thing, but much of it. I was raised Lutheran, and was an acolyte in church. I understand a big amount of religion. The more I learned, the less I believed. Until I had no beliefs at all. I DO know that many of the problems of the world, today, are caused by religions. Not always on the surface, but deep down. And as long as there ARE religions, there will be problems. My opinions, and I'm sticking to it. Blast away, I'll not be following this thread any more, nor responding. I'm pulling up my pants, and going home... after one last joke... A new monk arrives at the monastery. He is assigned to help the other monks in copying the old texts by hand.
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Roger I am open to listen to what you have found that turned you away from the Bible. But not to arguments nor do I want to shove the God down anyones throat. Honestly you didn't have to respond here. So many people in the world dont know whats in the Bible they haven't a clue. It should be open as any book and talked about just the same, taken out of the shadows and if people want to pick it up then so be it. It has some real wisdom on people situations and just life in general. Some of the stories are great. There are people, situations, how they handled things, results and it can really be interesting. The book of Ruth or Solomon just to name two. But just because some think its religious have issues or whatever or want it to go into the background I cant do that. If there is no significance in this book why is it so hated. Lets talk about Martha Stewart's books |
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i love it!! enjoing the fights!! This is a movie that changed my whole life. I dare anyone that has a mind for seeking knowledge to watch it!! (I can tell right now, most "christians" have turned away already.....)If you are, or proclaim to be a Christian, you will not be able to watch the first ½ hour without it making you wonder if it’s all true!! If you watch the first ½ hour and say it’s all crap, then you are truly a blind follower.
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« Reply #67 on: October 20, 2010, 04:04:29 PM » |
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i love it!! enjoing the fights!! This is a movie that changed my whole life. I dare anyone that has a mind for seeking knowledge to watch it!! (I can tell right now, most "christians" have turned away already.....)If you are, or proclaim to be a Christian, you will not be able to watch the first ½ hour without it making you wonder if it’s all true!! If you watch the first ½ hour and say it’s all crap, then you are truly a blind follower. Zeitgeist: The Movie - 2007 by Peter JosephAlph I enjoy reading your posts, so please don't consider this an attack, that is certainly not the case. I have seen your video before and I found it somewhat interesting just like I found the following video interesting. I see these presentations much like I see the 10's of thousands of other pieces of information I have collected throughout my life.....they are simply individual, discrete data points. I try to draw conclusions in life based on a summation of data points. I suspect you were speaking rhetorically when you said that the preceding movie "changed your whole life" and that the movie simply contributed to, or confirmed your current beliefs. Take it from a person that has spent most of their life in the world of mathematics....basing decisions on a single data point will get you in trouble....fast! Hopefully you will find the following video at least a little bit interesting also. I not suggesting this or any presentation should change your beliefs, it is simply another interesting data point.
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« Reply #68 on: October 20, 2010, 05:25:12 PM » |
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« Reply #69 on: October 20, 2010, 05:32:57 PM » |
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Well watched both videos and pretty much have heard all this before and have come to the conclusion that I am a enlightened and blessed follower of Jesus the Christ. You know guys I cannot expect you to understand what its really all about. With the things of the world and life and bad examples its no wonder that you would think what you do. Actually I thought the same things, but really I wouldn't want to be so empty again. I am happy when I see people healed, prayers answered and some who need a word about a situation receive it. The look on their faces filled with tears happy sometimes released from the emotional or physical pain is just beyond words. When I have a problem I know I have someone who cares and hears me and will take care of it. I can have peace in the midst of trouble. I always have a friend and someone to turn to. I have known the arm of man and its not always there but God is. I had to wrestle with all this that you guys posted thats why I do know what the stuff is. What makes atheists think that they have the market cornered on information about different religions and just different ways. Just like you made your decision there was no God I made mine that there is. The difference is my decision comes with benefits yours doesn't. So I'm happy hope you are too. |
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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« Reply #70 on: October 20, 2010, 05:52:30 PM » |
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Hey this thing has gone on so long let me tell you what happened the other day in the shop. This girl was delivering parts and she walked into the shop and then into the office. I looked at her and she looked a bit upset. Well I wondered what was the problem and as I was thinking about it and asked the Lord I got the answer. I walked up to her as she was leaving and said to her you have been praying about a situation. Her eyes got big I told her what it was about and she almost busted out in tears. We prayed and she went on her way well didn't see her for awhile after that. When 2 weeks had passed I saw her again and asked her how things went well she gave the testimony in church about what had happened and that the situation had indeed worked out like she was told it would. Like I said its not about religion its about relationship. My hope would be that you would all know the Lord. Not because of what the Bible says but because He is a great friend.
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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« Reply #71 on: October 20, 2010, 06:08:48 PM » |
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« Reply #72 on: October 20, 2010, 07:12:59 PM » |
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Boy this thread is gonna have more hits then the boobies one. I liked the boobies post better. At least it made a point (or two. . . .bwahaaaa) |
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« Reply #73 on: October 20, 2010, 07:15:12 PM » |
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A man is driving down the road and breaks down near a monastery. He goes to the monastery, knocks on the door, says, "My car broke down. Do you think I could stay the night?" The monks graciously accept him, feed him dinner, and even fixed his car. As the man tries to fall asleep, he hears a strange sound.
The next morning, he asks the monks what the sound was, but they say, "We can't tell you. You're not a monk." The man is disappointed but thanks them anyway and goes about his merry way.
Some years later, the same man breaks down in front of the same monastery. The monks accept him, feed him, even fix his car. That night, he hears the same strange noise that he had heard years earlier.
The next morning, he asks what it is, but the monks reply, "We can't tell you. You're not a monk." The man says, "All right, all right. I'm dying to know. If the only way I can find out what that sound was is to become a monk, how do I become a monk?"
The monks reply, "You must travel the earth and tell us how many blades of grass there are and the exact number of sand pebbles. When you find these numbers, you will become a monk." The man sets about his task.
Forty-five years later, he returns and knocks on the door of the monastery. He says, "I have traveled the earth and have found what you have asked for. There are 145,236,284,232 blades of grass and 231,281,219,999,129,382 sand pebbles on the earth." The monks reply, "Congratulations. You are now a monk. We shall now show you the way to the sound."
The monks lead the man to a wooden door, where the head monk says, "The sound is right behind that door." The man reaches for the knob, but the door is locked. He says, "Real funny, may I have the key?" The monks give him the key, and he opens the door. Behind the wooden door is another door made of stone. The man demands the key to the stone door. The monks give him the key, and he opens it, only to find a door made of rubies. He demands another key from the monks, who provide it. Behind that door is another door, this one made of sapphire. So it went until the man had gone through doors of emerald, silver, topaz, amethyst... Finally, the monks say, "This is the last key to the last door." The man is relieved to no end. He unlocks the door, turns the knob, and behind that door he is amazed to find the source of that strange sound.
Have you guessed what it is yet?
I hope so, because... I can't tell you; you aren't a monk.
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« Reply #74 on: October 20, 2010, 07:30:14 PM » |
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This little old man dies and goes to heaven. St Peter meets him at the pearly gates and says, you, old man, what's your name. The old man says its been so long, I can't remember. All I remember is that I was a carpenter and I had a son who did great things. St Peter's face paled. He got on the golden phone and called Jesus and said you need to come down here and meet this little old man that just showed up. In a flash, Jesus was there and said, you old man, what's your name. The little old man replied, well, like I told the other fellow, I don't remember. I just know I was a carpenter and had a son who did great things. Jesus drew close and looked deeply into the old man's eyes and said father? The little old man looked into Jesus' eyes and said Pinocchio?
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friend of mine was at the house last year, His son wants a car this year, he just turned 16, his Dad said you cut your long hair and i will think about helping, His Son knowing Dad's best friend is Jesus says ....but dad Jesus had Long hair!!......Dad responds Jesus did a lot of walking also.  |
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« Reply #76 on: October 20, 2010, 08:57:15 PM » |
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Eternity is a long time to be Wrong!
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« Reply #77 on: October 20, 2010, 09:02:07 PM » |
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Hey this thing has gone on so long let me tell you what happened the other day in the shop. This girl was delivering parts and she walked into the shop and then into the office. I looked at her and she looked a bit upset. Well I wondered what was the problem and as I was thinking about it and asked the Lord I got the answer. I walked up to her as she was leaving and said to her you have been praying about a situation. Her eyes got big I told her what it was about and she almost busted out in tears. We prayed and she went on her way well didn't see her for awhile after that. When 2 weeks had passed I saw her again and asked her how things went well she gave the testimony in church about what had happened and that the situation had indeed worked out like she was told it would. Like I said its not about religion its about relationship. My hope would be that you would all know the Lord. Not because of what the Bible says but because He is a great friend.
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« Reply #78 on: October 21, 2010, 04:09:00 AM » |
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Bobbo you weren't there for this nor the other times and where not there when the Lord healed the people either. I also wonder how much of your lashing out is due to the fact that your wife believes like I do. It cant be easy.
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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« Reply #79 on: October 21, 2010, 09:52:21 AM » |
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Bobbo you weren't there for this nor the other times and where not there when the Lord healed the people either. I also wonder how much of your lashing out is due to the fact that your wife believes like I do. It cant be easy.
Of course I wasn’t. No one alive now was. That’s my point; these old fables and tribal stories were more than likely made up to give suffering people hope instead of desperation. Most people would love to believe that some all-powerful mystic being “has their back”, so stories about one quickly evolve and are passed around much like todays email chain letters. If it weren’t for the Roman’s military might, and desire to conquer early Europe, Christianity would have faded away much like most old fairy tales. I have no idea where you came up with the story that my wife is some sort of Bible thumper like you. Maybe it’s the beginning of a new fable to be passed around in chain emails until 600 years later, some culture worships her as a god! |
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