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fiddle mike
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« on: July 19, 2011, 09:42:06 AM »

Honda pads finally took out my EBC rotor.  I found an OEM  (Pinwall eBay) rotor but need to re-build the caliper.  (I'm resisting paying $7.50 shipping for $9.00 worth of parts).

I'll need pads, as well.

I put Galfer semi-metallic carbon pads on the front, a while back,  because the price was right.  I don't really know what kind of pad material I should be using with an OEM rotor: sintered, semi-metallic or organic.

Any input?

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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2011, 11:22:34 AM »

OEM Pads...
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2011, 11:30:13 AM »

OEM Pads...

OEM is a material?
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2011, 11:54:12 AM »

oem is sintered
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2011, 12:43:28 PM »

Organic pads will give the longer lifetime to rotors, any rotors.

Might take a little more effort because they are softer on the rotors.

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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2011, 02:39:18 PM »

Mike: Remember that GL1800 rotors are a direct fit for the Valk. Less than half the cost of Valk rotors.
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2011, 03:26:12 PM »

Mike: Remember that GL1800 rotors are a direct fit for the Valk. Less than half the cost of Valk rotors.

Thanks, Sandy.  I'll keep that in mind. 

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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2011, 07:24:47 PM »

Okay, this is my absolute last post on brake pads.  If anyone wants more information, send me a PM or email me at vanagon[four][zero]at[gmail.com]

I purchased brake pads from usa-motorcycles-inc on ebay.  Search for "8FR BRAKE PADS CBR1000F ST1100 GL1500 VALKYRIE TOURER ".

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/8FR-BRAKE-PADS-CBR1000F-ST1100-GL1500-VALKYRIE-TOURER-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem19c72cb28bQQitemZ110715777675QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Two complete sets for $30 including shipping.

I am not affiliated, etc., etc. . . .
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2011, 07:31:04 PM »

Last time I looked, the Valkyrie rotors were cheaper than the Goldwing rotors. They were listed at $120.00.
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2011, 07:36:18 PM »

Last time I looked, the Valkyrie rotors were cheaper than the Goldwing rotors. They were listed at $120.00.

I think there talking about the fronts, thought the fronts were more expensive.
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2011, 07:53:44 PM »

Nope, $120 at HDL and with their 10% off sale they had are $108......
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2011, 07:23:26 AM »

If anyone can find an aftermarket pad that works well and is QUIET then by all means I'll use em. But for now I'm gonna stick with my OEM pads. The EBC's worked okay (about as well as the OEM) but the constant buzz like a cloud of bees in pursuit was awful. This is in direct contrast to my past experience with EBC which was quite favorable. I'm also a big fan of SBS pads and I used nothing but on my motocross bikes but I haven't tried them on a streetbike.

Vanagon, what do you think of those pads?
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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2011, 11:18:07 AM »

I kinda like the buzz, it only does it when you apply the front brakes.   Cheesy   Hoser
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2011, 12:32:51 PM »

Mike: Remember that GL1800 rotors are a direct fit for the Valk. Less than half the cost of Valk rotors.

Thanks, Sandy.  I'll keep that in mind. 



Not true anymore (for the moment anyway). Front Valk rotors are $120/ea now on HDL. Half what they were and cheaper than 1800 rotors ($160 I think).

If you need 'em, now is the time!
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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2011, 01:39:50 PM »

I kinda like the buzz, it only does it when you apply the front brakes.   Cheesy   Hoser

I could have lived with that but mine did it all the damn time. The rear was worse than the front but they both did it.
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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2011, 03:39:23 PM »

http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62842&page=2

http://www.phoenixmotorcycleservice.com/motorcycle-articles/brake-pads-sintered-vs-organic.html

http://www.h-e-lusa.com/BRAKE%20INFO-2.htm

good explanation of why EBC cause problems, it has to do with the torque curve of the pads
http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/general-sportbikes/384441-brake-pads.html
Different brake pads have different torque curves... the coefficient of friction changes as you both heat the pads, and as you increase lever pressure. That being the case, some pads literally 'run hot' under light loads... having a high coefficient of friction from the get-go and a flat torque curve... meaning the friction co-efficient changes as you exert increasing amounts of pressure. EBC pads are an excellent example of such a pad.

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,13708.0.html
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« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2011, 04:25:14 PM »

http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62842&page=2

http://www.phoenixmotorcycleservice.com/motorcycle-articles/brake-pads-sintered-vs-organic.html

http://www.h-e-lusa.com/BRAKE%20INFO-2.htm

good explanation of why EBC cause problems, it has to do with the torque curve of the pads
http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/general-sportbikes/384441-brake-pads.html
Different brake pads have different torque curves... the coefficient of friction changes as you both heat the pads, and as you increase lever pressure. That being the case, some pads literally 'run hot' under light loads... having a high coefficient of friction from the get-go and a flat torque curve... meaning the friction co-efficient changes as you exert increasing amounts of pressure. EBC pads are an excellent example of such a pad.

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,13708.0.html


I dunno, I mean that might affect certain things but they worked fine. They were just noisy. Hot, cold, didn't matter. They just buzzed like crazy. 
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.

1997 Valk Standard, Red and White.
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