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As it is the holy month of Ramadan.
I sure hope the extremists remember this also.
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2011, 10:26:34 AM » |
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As it is the holy month of Ramadan.
I sure hope the extremists remember this also.
They'd be better neighbors if we had better fences! |
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2011, 11:17:35 AM » |
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They cant eat until after sunset for the next lunar month
What they eat is a matter of individual preference.
I make my moslem attorney friend crazy by leaving messages that I am at lunch and where the f@#$ is he I am getting tired of waiting and its his turn to buy lunch.
All religions have adherents to varying degress of hypocracy and devotion.
The fence thing I go along with Chris.
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2011, 12:39:39 PM » |
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Oss, You're a hoot!  +1 with Chris |
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2011, 01:26:07 PM » |
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They cant eat until after sunset for the next lunar month
What they eat is a matter of individual preference.
I make my moslem attorney friend crazy by leaving messages that I am at lunch and where the f@#$ is he I am getting tired of waiting and its his turn to buy lunch.
All religions have adherents to varying degress of hypocracy and devotion.
The fence thing I go along with Chris.
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2011, 01:27:58 PM » |
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They cant eat until after sunset for the next lunar month
What they eat is a matter of individual preference.
kind of makes ya want to barbeque some pork ribs outside about an hour fore dark. |
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2011, 02:26:43 PM » |
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They cant eat until after sunset for the next lunar month
What they eat is a matter of individual preference.
kind of makes ya want to barbeque some pork ribs outside about an hour fore dark. Would that be an attempt to aggravate the Muslims, or Oss?! ??? |
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2011, 02:30:57 PM » |
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I just don't trust anyone who doesn't eat bacon.
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2011, 02:39:15 PM » |
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Good catch Bobbo You dont miss much
Ole Oss dont eat pork My personal preference, nor shellfish
and yes I know I am missing out. Had some great amish ham when I stayed on a farm as a kid
My parents went kosher when I was 8 and I suppose it just stuck with me
PIG OUT all you want but I shall not eat the stuff
There is plenty of pulled brisket and chicken out there dont feel bad for me
For that matter run a car tire, dont wear a helmet and ride barefoot it dont matter to me
I will let the trust comment go considering the source
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2011, 02:41:29 PM » |
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I will let the trust comment go considering the source Let me amend that comment; I don't trust anyone who isn't at least tempted by bacon's siren song. ANYONE |
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2011, 02:53:50 PM » |
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Good catch Bobbo You dont miss much
Ole Oss dont eat pork My personal preference, nor shellfish
and yes I know I am missing out. Had some great amish ham when I stayed on a farm as a kid
My parents went kosher when I was 8 and I suppose it just stuck with me
PIG OUT all you want but I shall not eat the stuff
There is plenty of pulled brisket and chicken out there dont feel bad for me
For that matter run a car tire, dont wear a helmet and ride barefoot it dont matter to me
I will let the trust comment go considering the source
That reminds me of something I don't understand... Why do Christians give themselves a free pass regarding Kosher and other Levitical laws? After all, Jesus kept Kosher. Where does it say Christians can eat pork and other non-Kosher foods? After all, it IS in the Bible... |
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2011, 03:04:07 PM » |
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Good catch Bobbo You dont miss much
Ole Oss dont eat pork My personal preference, nor shellfish
and yes I know I am missing out. Had some great amish ham when I stayed on a farm as a kid
My parents went kosher when I was 8 and I suppose it just stuck with me
PIG OUT all you want but I shall not eat the stuff
There is plenty of pulled brisket and chicken out there dont feel bad for me
For that matter run a car tire, dont wear a helmet and ride barefoot it dont matter to me
I will let the trust comment go considering the source
That reminds me of something I don't understand... Why do Christians give themselves a free pass regarding Kosher and other Levitical laws? After all, Jesus kept Kosher. Where does it say Christians can eat pork and other non-Kosher foods? After all, it IS in the Bible... Because it's not compatible with eating tasty, tasty bacon. Next thing you're going to try and take my children's desert away. Commie. |
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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2011, 03:01:22 PM » |
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It looks like all the middleastern resturants in Dearborn/Dearborn Hts. are going to lose a lot of money this month.
But filafel and bacon sounds like a great combo meal.
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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2011, 03:15:32 PM » |
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Good catch Bobbo You dont miss much
Ole Oss dont eat pork My personal preference, nor shellfish
and yes I know I am missing out. Had some great amish ham when I stayed on a farm as a kid
My parents went kosher when I was 8 and I suppose it just stuck with me
PIG OUT all you want but I shall not eat the stuff
There is plenty of pulled brisket and chicken out there dont feel bad for me
For that matter run a car tire, dont wear a helmet and ride barefoot it dont matter to me
I will let the trust comment go considering the source
That reminds me of something I don't understand... Why do Christians give themselves a free pass regarding Kosher and other Levitical laws? After all, Jesus kept Kosher. Where does it say Christians can eat pork and other non-Kosher foods? After all, it IS in the Bible... Bobbo, the answer is plain and simple..........two words........NEW TESTAMENT Jews do not recognize it as applicable......in the new testament God revealed to Timothy that nothing needs to be deemed unclean, If God made it its good to go.........the Jews choose to remain in strict compliance ot the old way. Not that there is anything wrong with that if its what you want, but its no longer a requirement for a Christ follower |
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2011, 05:58:06 PM » |
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Why do Catholics say no meat on Friday during lent, but its ok to eat fish?? What's so special about fish?? A fish is an animal. It don't have lungs, but its an animal.  My wife is Catholic and she doesn't know. When we got married, we had to meet with the priest. I asked him this question about fish during lent and he didn't give me an answer either. |
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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2011, 06:20:37 PM » |
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Why do Catholics say no meat on Friday during lent, but its ok to eat fish?? What's so special about fish?? A fish is an animal. It don't have lungs, but its an animal. My wife is Catholic and she doesn't know. When we got married, we had to meet with the priest. I asked him this question about fish during lent and he didn't give me an answer either. This explains some of it: http://catholicism.about.com/od/catholicliving/p/Abstinence.htmIt seems to be a complicated issue. |
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2011, 06:44:37 PM » |
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I just don't trust anyone who doesn't eat bacon.
ANYONE...
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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2011, 06:46:24 PM » |
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Good catch Bobbo You dont miss much
Ole Oss dont eat pork My personal preference, nor shellfish
and yes I know I am missing out. Had some great amish ham when I stayed on a farm as a kid
My parents went kosher when I was 8 and I suppose it just stuck with me
PIG OUT all you want but I shall not eat the stuff
There is plenty of pulled brisket and chicken out there dont feel bad for me
For that matter run a car tire, dont wear a helmet and ride barefoot it dont matter to me
I will let the trust comment go considering the source
That reminds me of something I don't understand... Why do Christians give themselves a free pass regarding Kosher and other Levitical laws? After all, Jesus kept Kosher. Where does it say Christians can eat pork and other non-Kosher foods? After all, it IS in the Bible... Because it's not compatible with eating tasty, tasty bacon. Next thing you're going to try and take my children's desert away. Commie. and your salt shaker, and your transfat  |
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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2011, 06:46:40 PM » |
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That reminds me of something I don't understand... Why do Christians give themselves a free pass regarding Kosher and other Levitical laws? After all, Jesus kept Kosher. Where does it say Christians can eat pork and other non-Kosher foods? After all, it IS in the Bible...
Many times Jesus went against the "Law": At that time Jesus went through the grain fields on the sabbath day. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck the heads of grain and to eat.
But when the Pharisees saw, they said to Him, Behold, your disciples do that which it is not lawful to do on the sabbath day. But He said to them, Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, and those who were with him, how he entered into the house of God and ate the showbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests? Mat 12:1-4 (NKJV) Paul was clear in his writings that Christians were no longer subject to the "Law": All things are lawful to me, but not all things profit. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. 1Co 6:12 (NKJV)Eat whatever is sold in the meat market, asking no question for conscience' sake; "for the earth is the Lord's, and the fullness of it."
If any of those who do not believe invite you to a feast, and if you are disposed to go, eat whatever is set before you, asking no questions for conscience' sake. 1Co 10:25-27 (NKJV) |
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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2011, 06:47:24 PM » |
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I won't eat anything Jesus woudn't eat.
You won't eat pu**y? Mmmm, chocolate bacon. Speaking of chocolate, if anyone ever tells me they don't eat bacon or Cocoa Pebbles then I'm reporting them to homeland security. And where does the simple grilled cheese sandwich get off being so cursed good? |
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2011, 06:59:04 PM » |
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My sister in law teaches in a burb of Detroit and she remembers well that the Muslim parents kept their kids home from school on 9/11/01 - go figure! Buy your muslim friends a bag of pork rinds and send me the bill.
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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2011, 07:00:41 PM » |
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By the way it was very nice to meet you at Inzane 11.
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« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2011, 07:02:15 PM » |
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Good catch Bobbo You dont miss much
Ole Oss dont eat pork My personal preference, nor shellfish
and yes I know I am missing out. Had some great amish ham when I stayed on a farm as a kid
My parents went kosher when I was 8 and I suppose it just stuck with me
PIG OUT all you want but I shall not eat the stuff
There is plenty of pulled brisket and chicken out there dont feel bad for me
For that matter run a car tire, dont wear a helmet and ride barefoot it dont matter to me
I will let the trust comment go considering the source
That reminds me of something I don't understand... Why do Christians give themselves a free pass regarding Kosher and other Levitical laws? After all, Jesus kept Kosher. Where does it say Christians can eat pork and other non-Kosher foods? After all, it IS in the Bible... Because it's not compatible with eating tasty, tasty bacon. Next thing you're going to try and take my children's desert away. Commie. and your salt shaker, and your transfat Don't get me started on that. Ooop's too late... You know who I really, really want to punch in the face? Morgan Spurlock. It's because of that dope that I can't get a supersized McMeal anymore. Now I'm not a big McD's eater (Five guys, FTW!) but on the few occasions I do choose to throw caution and my blood panels to the wind I don't f**k around and I hit that crap like the fist of god. One Big Mac? Oh no, throw an extra one in there without the healthy stuff (pickles and lettuce) please. And some mayo packets on the side, you know, for my fries... But now thanks to Captain Obvious I can't add an few ounces of soda or FF's to my order. You know who else I want to punch in the face? People who say that Supersize me is a good documentary/social experiment film. It's not. it's stupid and it sucks. Look, even the good people at McDonald's corp. would tell you that eating their food every single day is a bad idea. McDonald's food is not for that. Did we need a film outlining what should be blatantly obvious to anyone with a functioning brain? I suppose if the future ends up being like Idiocracy then maybe subsequent generations will find a use for it in institutes of higher learning. But we're not dumb (yet). |
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2011, 08:34:47 PM » |
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Good catch Bobbo You dont miss much
Ole Oss dont eat pork My personal preference, nor shellfish
and yes I know I am missing out. Had some great amish ham when I stayed on a farm as a kid
My parents went kosher when I was 8 and I suppose it just stuck with me
PIG OUT all you want but I shall not eat the stuff
There is plenty of pulled brisket and chicken out there dont feel bad for me
For that matter run a car tire, dont wear a helmet and ride barefoot it dont matter to me
I will let the trust comment go considering the source
That reminds me of something I don't understand... Why do Christians give themselves a free pass regarding Kosher and other Levitical laws? After all, Jesus kept Kosher. Where does it say Christians can eat pork and other non-Kosher foods? After all, it IS in the Bible... Bobbo, the answer is plain and simple..........two words........NEW TESTAMENT Jews do not recognize it as applicable......in the new testament God revealed to Timothy that nothing needs to be deemed unclean, If God made it its good to go.........the Jews choose to remain in strict compliance ot the old way. Not that there is anything wrong with that if its what you want, but its no longer a requirement for a Christ follower Chris, Chris, Chris, can't you recognize when your being baited. He knows why, he just gets off getting a rise out of believers. Don't throw your pearls before swine, move on, wipe the dust off of your feet. Let the Holy Spirit lead you. In other words don't waste your time. |
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« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2011, 09:10:35 PM » |
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Good catch Bobbo You dont miss much
Ole Oss dont eat pork My personal preference, nor shellfish
and yes I know I am missing out. Had some great amish ham when I stayed on a farm as a kid
My parents went kosher when I was 8 and I suppose it just stuck with me
PIG OUT all you want but I shall not eat the stuff
There is plenty of pulled brisket and chicken out there dont feel bad for me
For that matter run a car tire, dont wear a helmet and ride barefoot it dont matter to me
I will let the trust comment go considering the source
That reminds me of something I don't understand... Why do Christians give themselves a free pass regarding Kosher and other Levitical laws? After all, Jesus kept Kosher. Where does it say Christians can eat pork and other non-Kosher foods? After all, it IS in the Bible... If you truly don't know the answer to your question, you don't need to be commenting on any Christian principles or the Bible from a position of knowledge or understanding. I know you will anyway, but you have confirmed for me that you have a lot of information but you don't really know what your talking about. |
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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2011, 04:39:17 AM » |
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I'm gonna make a ham, bacon and sausage sandwich and call it the infidel. Now that is funny |
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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2011, 06:50:11 PM » |
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Good catch Bobbo You dont miss much
Ole Oss dont eat pork My personal preference, nor shellfish
and yes I know I am missing out. Had some great amish ham when I stayed on a farm as a kid
My parents went kosher when I was 8 and I suppose it just stuck with me
PIG OUT all you want but I shall not eat the stuff
There is plenty of pulled brisket and chicken out there dont feel bad for me
For that matter run a car tire, dont wear a helmet and ride barefoot it dont matter to me
I will let the trust comment go considering the source
That reminds me of something I don't understand... Why do Christians give themselves a free pass regarding Kosher and other Levitical laws? After all, Jesus kept Kosher. Where does it say Christians can eat pork and other non-Kosher foods? After all, it IS in the Bible... Bobbo, the answer is plain and simple..........two words........NEW TESTAMENT Jews do not recognize it as applicable......in the new testament God revealed to Timothy that nothing needs to be deemed unclean, If God made it its good to go.........the Jews choose to remain in strict compliance ot the old way. Not that there is anything wrong with that if its what you want, but its no longer a requirement for a Christ follower Chris, Chris, Chris, can't you recognize when your being baited. He knows why, he just gets off getting a rise out of believers. Don't throw your pearls before swine, move on, wipe the dust off of your feet. Let the Holy Spirit lead you. In other words don't waste your time. Oh yes.....baited or not, somtimes getting the opportunity to give the answer because the question was asked (for whatever reason) is an opportunity I cannot pass up. I know Bobbo, he lives for the argument.........I used to argue, now I just ignore or give an answer and move on without the argument |
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Lars a Norwegian from Cook County in northern Minnesota -- was an older, single gentleman who was born and raised a Lutheran. Each Friday night after work, he would fire up his outdoor grill and cook a venison steak.
Now, all of Lars's neighbors were Catholic.....and since it was Lent, they were forbidden from eating meat on Fridays The delicious aroma from the grilled venison steaks was causing such a problem for the Catholic faithful that they finally talked to their priest.
The priest came to visit Lars, and suggested that Lars convert to Catholicism. After several classes and much study, Lars attended Mass.....and as the priest sprinkled holy water over Lars, he said, "You were born a Lutheran and raised a Lutheran, but now you are Catholic."
Lars's neighbors were greatly relieved, until Friday night arrived, and the wonderful aroma of grilled venison filled the neighborhood. The priest was called immediately by the neighbors and, as he rushed into Lars's yard, clutching a rosary and prepared to scold Lars, he stopped in amazement and watched......
There stood Lars, clutching a small bottle of water which he carefully sprinkled over the grilling meat, and chanted:
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« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2011, 02:20:30 PM » |
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Good catch Bobbo You dont miss much
Ole Oss dont eat pork My personal preference, nor shellfish
and yes I know I am missing out. Had some great amish ham when I stayed on a farm as a kid
My parents went kosher when I was 8 and I suppose it just stuck with me
PIG OUT all you want but I shall not eat the stuff
There is plenty of pulled brisket and chicken out there dont feel bad for me
For that matter run a car tire, dont wear a helmet and ride barefoot it dont matter to me
I will let the trust comment go considering the source
That reminds me of something I don't understand... Why do Christians give themselves a free pass regarding Kosher and other Levitical laws? After all, Jesus kept Kosher. Where does it say Christians can eat pork and other non-Kosher foods? After all, it IS in the Bible... Because whether folks will admit it or not, it's all MAN MADE RULES that were put in place to change the behavior of people to suit the times. For all we know, pig and shellfish could have been making people sick at that time in history do to poor food prep and saving. As things got better, the rules changed because some rich person or some king decided he wanted to eat lobster. |
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« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2011, 03:01:20 PM » |
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« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2011, 03:38:46 PM » |
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Who changed the rules on ''The Bris"?
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« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2011, 09:34:20 PM » |
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Good catch Bobbo You dont miss much
Ole Oss dont eat pork My personal preference, nor shellfish
and yes I know I am missing out. Had some great amish ham when I stayed on a farm as a kid
My parents went kosher when I was 8 and I suppose it just stuck with me
PIG OUT all you want but I shall not eat the stuff
There is plenty of pulled brisket and chicken out there dont feel bad for me
For that matter run a car tire, dont wear a helmet and ride barefoot it dont matter to me
I will let the trust comment go considering the source
That reminds me of something I don't understand... Why do Christians give themselves a free pass regarding Kosher and other Levitical laws? After all, Jesus kept Kosher. Where does it say Christians can eat pork and other non-Kosher foods? After all, it IS in the Bible... Because it's not compatible with eating tasty, tasty bacon. Next thing you're going to try and take my children's desert away. Commie. and your salt shaker, and your transfat Don't get me started on that. Ooop's too late... You know who I really, really want to punch in the face? Morgan Spurlock. It's because of that dope that I can't get a supersized McMeal anymore. Now I'm not a big McD's eater (Five guys, FTW!) but on the few occasions I do choose to throw caution and my blood panels to the wind I don't f**k around and I hit that crap like the fist of god. One Big Mac? Oh no, throw an extra one in there without the healthy stuff (pickles and lettuce) please. And some mayo packets on the side, you know, for my fries... But now thanks to Captain Obvious I can't add an few ounces of soda or FF's to my order. You know who else I want to punch in the face? People who say that Supersize me is a good documentary/social experiment film. It's not. it's stupid and it sucks. Look, even the good people at McDonald's corp. would tell you that eating their food every single day is a bad idea. McDonald's food is not for that. Did we need a film outlining what should be blatantly obvious to anyone with a functioning brain? I suppose if the future ends up being like Idiocracy then maybe subsequent generations will find a use for it in institutes of higher learning. But we're not dumb (yet). don't hold back, tell us how you really feel! |
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Good catch Bobbo You dont miss much
Ole Oss dont eat pork My personal preference, nor shellfish
and yes I know I am missing out. Had some great amish ham when I stayed on a farm as a kid
My parents went kosher when I was 8 and I suppose it just stuck with me
PIG OUT all you want but I shall not eat the stuff
There is plenty of pulled brisket and chicken out there dont feel bad for me
For that matter run a car tire, dont wear a helmet and ride barefoot it dont matter to me
I will let the trust comment go considering the source
That reminds me of something I don't understand... Why do Christians give themselves a free pass regarding Kosher and other Levitical laws? After all, Jesus kept Kosher. Where does it say Christians can eat pork and other non-Kosher foods? After all, it IS in the Bible... Bobbo, the answer is plain and simple..........two words........NEW TESTAMENT Jews do not recognize it as applicable......in the new testament God revealed to Timothy that nothing needs to be deemed unclean, If God made it its good to go.........the Jews choose to remain in strict compliance ot the old way. Not that there is anything wrong with that if its what you want, but its no longer a requirement for a Christ follower Chris, Chris, Chris, can't you recognize when your being baited. He knows why, he just gets off getting a rise out of believers. Don't throw your pearls before swine, move on, wipe the dust off of your feet. Let the Holy Spirit lead you. In other words don't waste your time. Oh yes.....baited or not, somtimes getting the opportunity to give the answer because the question was asked (for whatever reason) is an opportunity I cannot pass up. I know Bobbo, he lives for the argument.........I used to argue, now I just ignore or give an answer and move on without the argument Sorry fro the delay... Just got back from the Black Hills rally. No baiting, just asking. I thought Timothy (1 & 2) was written by Paul, as letters to Timothy. If God decided to break the laws and make new ones (while incarnated as Jesus), why did He wait until much later to let everyone know? Why did God reveal this to Timothy (or Paul, whoever wrote that passage)? Why not tell everyone while disguised as Jesus? |
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« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2011, 06:03:50 PM » |
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Good catch Bobbo You dont miss much
Ole Oss dont eat pork My personal preference, nor shellfish
and yes I know I am missing out. Had some great amish ham when I stayed on a farm as a kid
My parents went kosher when I was 8 and I suppose it just stuck with me
PIG OUT all you want but I shall not eat the stuff
There is plenty of pulled brisket and chicken out there dont feel bad for me
For that matter run a car tire, dont wear a helmet and ride barefoot it dont matter to me
I will let the trust comment go considering the source
That reminds me of something I don't understand... Why do Christians give themselves a free pass regarding Kosher and other Levitical laws? After all, Jesus kept Kosher. Where does it say Christians can eat pork and other non-Kosher foods? After all, it IS in the Bible... Because whether folks will admit it or not, it's all MAN MADE RULES that were put in place to change the behavior of people to suit the times. For all we know, pig and shellfish could have been making people sick at that time in history do to poor food prep and saving. As things got better, the rules changed because some rich person or some king decided he wanted to eat lobster. I'm thinking this is closest to the truth. Maybe Paul or Timothy got a whiff of the tasty, tasty bacon the Romans were cooking up, and decided God should let them have it! |
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« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2011, 08:33:14 PM » |
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That reminds me of something I don't understand... Why do Christians give themselves a free pass regarding Kosher and other Levitical laws? After all, Jesus kept Kosher. Where does it say Christians can eat pork and other non-Kosher foods? After all, it IS in the Bible...
Sorry fro the delay... Just got back from the Black Hills rally. No baiting, just asking. I thought Timothy (1 & 2) was written by Paul, as letters to Timothy. If God decided to break the laws and make new ones (while incarnated as Jesus), why did He wait until much later to let everyone know? Why did God reveal this to Timothy (or Paul, whoever wrote that passage)? Why not tell everyone while disguised as Jesus?
By the way, I hope you had a good time at the Black Hills rally. It's beautiful country and likely no place or time you'll find that many motorcycles in that tight a circumference. That's both a positive and a negative for me.
Please disregard the explanation involving Timothy. I have no idea upon what that was based.
The ceremonial and dietary laws given to the people of Israel during the Old Testament period were specifically directed to the nation of Israel and are even explained at that time as intended to set the Israelites apart from the nations around them. There are references in the Old Testament to worshipers of God outside the nation of Israel with no indication that they were bound by the dietary and ceremonial laws of Israel. There are also references to those born outside of the nation of Israel who chose to become a part of the nation of Israel and indications are that they bound themselves to those dietary and ceremonial laws.
You may note that the "Ten Commandments" include laws governing relationship and behavior apart from the dietary and ceremonial law.
In the first century when the first gentiles, those would be people who like me were not born into the nation of Israel, accepted Christianity, there was some disagreement within the church. Some believed strongly that these new converts needed to go through the process of being assimilated into the nation of Israel and hold themselves to the dietary and ceremonial laws as did the Jewish Christians. Some believed strongly that no such requirement was valid. The debate was intense enough that the leaders of the church, at the time all Jewish Christians, were asked to clarify which side of the debate was correct. At the end of the discussion, James, the accepted leader of the church at the time, proclaimed, presumably under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, "It is my judgement that we do not trouble those who are turning to God from among the Gentiles, but that we write to them that they abstain from things contaminated by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood." Though the discussion at the time centered around the issue of ceremonial circumcision, I, and I'm sure most Christian biblical scholars, see that it applies more broadly to all the ceremonial and dietary laws.
There are other places within the New Testament that make reference to gentile Christians not being held to the restrictions of the dietary and ceremonial laws. Most if not all of them point back to the decision of James and the leaders of the Jerusalem church.
There are indeed Christians today who are by birth members of the house of Israel and choose to continue to follow the dietary and applicable ceremonial laws. They're known as Messianic Jews in that they've accepted Jesus as the Messiah. The majority of us though are gentile Christians and do not hold ourselves to those restrictions. Just to add to the complexities, there are also some gentile Christians who believe the dietary laws were given for specific health reasons and those people choose to follow the restrictions simply because they believe it's the best thing to do.
I hope you find this a helpful insight into how at least one of us views the reason for modern gentile Christians "giving themselves a free pass" on the dietary restrictions placed upon the Jews. |
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Please disregard the explanation involving Timothy. I have no idea upon what that was based. OK, my bad it was Peter, not Timothy in Acts CH 10 Sorry, the rememberer is not what it used to be |
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« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2011, 05:09:55 AM » |
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That reminds me of something I don't understand... Why do Christians give themselves a free pass regarding Kosher and other Levitical laws? After all, Jesus kept Kosher. Where does it say Christians can eat pork and other non-Kosher foods? After all, it IS in the Bible...
Sorry fro the delay... Just got back from the Black Hills rally. No baiting, just asking. I thought Timothy (1 & 2) was written by Paul, as letters to Timothy. If God decided to break the laws and make new ones (while incarnated as Jesus), why did He wait until much later to let everyone know? Why did God reveal this to Timothy (or Paul, whoever wrote that passage)? Why not tell everyone while disguised as Jesus?
By the way, I hope you had a good time at the Black Hills rally. It's beautiful country and likely no place or time you'll find that many motorcycles in that tight a circumference. That's both a positive and a negative for me.
Please disregard the explanation involving Timothy. I have no idea upon what that was based.
The ceremonial and dietary laws given to the people of Israel during the Old Testament period were specifically directed to the nation of Israel and are even explained at that time as intended to set the Israelites apart from the nations around them. There are references in the Old Testament to worshipers of God outside the nation of Israel with no indication that they were bound by the dietary and ceremonial laws of Israel. There are also references to those born outside of the nation of Israel who chose to become a part of the nation of Israel and indications are that they bound themselves to those dietary and ceremonial laws.
You may note that the "Ten Commandments" include laws governing relationship and behavior apart from the dietary and ceremonial law.
In the first century when the first gentiles, those would be people who like me were not born into the nation of Israel, accepted Christianity, there was some disagreement within the church. Some believed strongly that these new converts needed to go through the process of being assimilated into the nation of Israel and hold themselves to the dietary and ceremonial laws as did the Jewish Christians. Some believed strongly that no such requirement was valid. The debate was intense enough that the leaders of the church, at the time all Jewish Christians, were asked to clarify which side of the debate was correct. At the end of the discussion, James, the accepted leader of the church at the time, proclaimed, presumably under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, "It is my judgement that we do not trouble those who are turning to God from among the Gentiles, but that we write to them that they abstain from things contaminated by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood." Though the discussion at the time centered around the issue of ceremonial circumcision, I, and I'm sure most Christian biblical scholars, see that it applies more broadly to all the ceremonial and dietary laws.
There are other places within the New Testament that make reference to gentile Christians not being held to the restrictions of the dietary and ceremonial laws. Most if not all of them point back to the decision of James and the leaders of the Jerusalem church.
There are indeed Christians today who are by birth members of the house of Israel and choose to continue to follow the dietary and applicable ceremonial laws. They're known as Messianic Jews in that they've accepted Jesus as the Messiah. The majority of us though are gentile Christians and do not hold ourselves to those restrictions. Just to add to the complexities, there are also some gentile Christians who believe the dietary laws were given for specific health reasons and those people choose to follow the restrictions simply because they believe it's the best thing to do.
I hope you find this a helpful insight into how at least one of us views the reason for modern gentile Christians "giving themselves a free pass" on the dietary restrictions placed upon the Jews. That was very eloquent Willow. A bottom line way of saying it is simply this: The Jews were brought up to follow the law, and Christians are encouraged to live by faith. By faith all things are clean, if you dont believe it, then the Bible says it will remain unclean to you so dont eat it, no harm no foul (in the food thing). Faith is the difference between following all those laws or not. |
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