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it's called 'open cloud security' anyone have any experience with this? I've tried a few searches/fixes off the net and no luck so far. any help deeply appreciated. (actually my wife probably did it, she was surfing at the time this thing started up  she's apologizing alot) hijacking my own thread, tomorrow I'm going to a gunshow and see if I can't seal the deal on an XD 45. I like the mid sized one over the compact or the full sized. |
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2011, 07:10:33 PM » |
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Have you downloaded the latest version of "Stinger" ?
Boot your PC in safe mode and then run Stinger from a memory stick/thumb drive.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2011, 09:18:45 PM » |
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Get a Mac.
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2011, 09:39:41 PM » |
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Get a Mac.
that's a thought, talked it over with the wife she sounds amiable |
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2011, 02:02:42 AM » |
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Computer show here in Rochester, NY has a thing called the "security tango". Here's a link. Dance the tango exactly as instructed and it clears up almost anything. http://securitytango.com/ |
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2011, 05:34:01 AM » |
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Combofix - Google it.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2011, 06:10:07 AM » |
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Hey! Ya might have a point there! I've been thinking about selling it. Now I know why I couldn't figure out how to get it out of the garage!  |
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2011, 06:41:32 AM » |
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Get a Mac.
Whatever you get, keep it updated or you'll be screwed... http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222-Mike |
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2011, 06:43:46 PM » |
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thanks for the info, ran stinger it seemed to come up empty. ran malwarebytes in safe mode and then restarted it seemed to do the trick. gotta tweak a few things most everything works now. probably need to reformat and start over  |
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2011, 06:45:16 AM » |
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dont reformat,,, buy a new hard drive and install the OS on it and transfer your files over to it,,,just the files you know you need,,if you dont know what it is then it could be a bug,,,
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2011, 01:56:24 PM » |
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malwarebytes Another very good program. I do some computer work as a side job/hobby and find I can clean up almost anything with a combo of Ccleaner, Malwarebytes Antimalware, and Superantispyware. I have also used the "combofix" program mentioned above with some success against certain infections. Most of these programs can be found and downloaded for free from filehippo . |
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2011, 05:40:57 PM » |
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malwarebytes Another very good program. I do some computer work as a side job/hobby and find I can clean up almost anything with a combo of Ccleaner, Malwarebytes Antimalware, and Superantispyware. I have also used the "combofix" program mentioned above with some success against certain infections. Most of these programs can be found and downloaded for free from filehippo . yep.....between malwarebytes and a good old fashion "restore" to a date BEFORE the problem...and then checking with Malwarebytes and perhaps another good antivirus software app (with a scan) will usually do the trick. I got "XP Defender 2012" one time...and that was my fix. Pretty painless....... It really amazes me that people still put up with all that crap. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2011, 06:42:08 PM » |
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most everything works now, going to try some of the other programs listed above. still got a few funky things going on.
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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2011, 07:42:44 PM » |
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One of Apple’s better Mac vs PC ads features a strong message that Windows computers are a magnet for viruses (malware) but Macs are automatically protected. As PC “ah-choos” his way through an infection, Mac offers a tissue and smugly infers that he’s immune to the 114,000 Windows viruses. Away from the television screen, Apple’s technical advice is different. Very different. Check out this recently updated technical note on Apple’s Web site: Apple encourages the widespread use of multiple antivirus utilities so that virus programmers have more than one application to circumvent, thus making the whole virus writing process more difficult.The note goes on to list several commercial anti-virus utilities (two are available for sale at Apple’s online store!) and sends the correct message that no operating system is really safe from malicious software attacks. A good program is NOD32 has the best rating for catching viruses before they get in. I like Macs but I dont like misinformed smug Mac users  |
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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2011, 08:53:14 PM » |
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One of Apple’s better Mac vs PC ads features a strong message that Windows computers are a magnet for viruses (malware) but Macs are automatically protected. As PC “ah-choos” his way through an infection, Mac offers a tissue and smugly infers that he’s immune to the 114,000 Windows viruses. Away from the television screen, Apple’s technical advice is different. Very different. Check out this recently updated technical note on Apple’s Web site: Apple encourages the widespread use of multiple antivirus utilities so that virus programmers have more than one application to circumvent, thus making the whole virus writing process more difficult.The note goes on to list several commercial anti-virus utilities (two are available for sale at Apple’s online store!) and sends the correct message that no operating system is really safe from malicious software attacks. A good program is NOD32 has the best rating for catching viruses before they get in. I like Macs but I dont like misinformed smug Mac users Well Robert, I'm a smug Mac user so you can count me as one you don't like. And I'll go right on using my virus-free Mac while you use whatever you like. I haven't run virus protection on any of my Macs since 1984 and don't intend to start now. |
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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2011, 09:01:21 PM » |
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Figures I know some that dont have virus protection on their pc either and sometimes they get along ok. Its all a matter of time and how you use it.  |
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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2011, 09:05:54 PM » |
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Oh, and by the way Robert,
Before I just posted the last message, calling myself a smug Mac user, why do you call a Mac user "smug" for suggesting to someone that they switch to a Mac? And why is a Mac user "smug" if he claims to be virus-free when, in fact, he is? I'm sure you do know that there are zero viruses for Macs?
Ya know what? People can call me anything that makes them feel better about themselves and I'll continue to wonder why people put up with all the aggravation they do with that other platform. What would be the worst that could happen if my Mac got a virus tomorrow? I'd have to finally clean it up like all those millions of times that others have had to do it for years. Wow!
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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2011, 09:34:47 PM » |
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Get a good scanner program and keep it updated. I run Avast! , have been using it for 4 years now, absolutely no virus or Malware problems. It updates its definitions at least 3 times daily, and usually has a version update weekly. Good enough it will block a web page before it loads, and inform you what type of virus is stored there.
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« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2011, 05:44:45 AM » |
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Titan The concept that Macs are not vulnerable is wrong and stating so is misleading. Nothing wrong with Macs or your appreciation of them but they like any thing it has its problems and the exuberant joy and confidence in them is overstated.
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« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2011, 06:09:41 AM » |
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Titan The concept that Macs are not vulnerable is wrong and stating so is misleading. Nothing wrong with Macs or your appreciation of them but they like any thing it has its problems and the exuberant joy and confidence in them is overstated.
Well, obviously, I disagree with that since it's a fact that there are no viruses for the Mac and nobody is, or has been, affected by viruses, trojans, malware, and identity thefts from hacking into them. And I never said that Macs aren't vulnerable. I've never said there will never be viruses. What I did say is that there are none at this time and I'll add that it's not very likely there will be in the near future. How can the joy and confidence be overstated? Just because there might possibly be a virus someday doesn't mean Mac users aren't free from all that today? If the Mac ever becomes the pain in the butt that PCs have always been, then you wouldn't see their users having all that joy and confidence. |
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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2011, 06:19:43 AM » |
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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2011, 06:47:49 AM » |
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Seriously? I'm guessing here that you're a Windows user and maybe a Mac hater. Just a guess. But you offer one of the most stupid and uninformed articles on the internet as some kind of proof that Macs have viruses? Seriously? I just can't accept that you would be that gullible. Did you read the article or just the headlines. The idiot who wrote it used three unrelated terms to describe the "attack". Virus, malware, and trojan. Three different animals... and he used all three for his description. A virus infects your computer, does whatever it does, and propagates itself, infecting other files and applications. Then it passes on to any other computer that yours communicates with, or sends itself to everyone in your address book and infects their computers. It's a virus. A trojan gets on your computer through many different means and can contain a virus as just described. That's short for "Trojan Horse" and I'm guess you know where that term comes from. In the case of "Mac Defender", it's a trojan. It was designed to have the user authorize it's installation on the computer and then it popped up dialogs to make you think you had a bunch of viruses that were going to wreak havoc unless you bought their software. Giving it your credit card number to buy that software resulted in your CC number being stolen. Here's a tiny excerpt from the article... "It’s not a particularly harmful trojan once it gets into your computer. It doesn’t infect anything, and it doesn’t mess with your computer. "This is "social engineering" designed to trick a gullible user. The thing was easily removed and caused no damage whatsoever unless somebody fell for the ripoff. It was not a virus. And it sure doesn't measure up to all the thousands of attacks that cause people to lose all their stuff and have to reformat their hard drives. |
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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2011, 07:01:59 AM » |
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Hmm,no virus ?
All threats | A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z
22 threats found.
Name Threat Level Description
Virus.MacOS.Anti High Virus.MacOS.Anti is self-replicating virus that infects application files on System 6.
Virus.MacOS.Cdef High Virus.MacOS.Cdef is a self-replicating virus which infects desktop files used by System 6. Although this virus does not have any destructive payload, the infection can affect the system causing it to slow down and consequently crash.
Virus.MacOS.Code1 High Virus.MacOS.Code1 is a destructive virus which infects Mac OS classic system files and applications. This virus has known payload which renames the user's infected hard drive to Trent Saburo on the 31st of October of every year.
Virus.MacOS.Code252 High Virus.MacOS.Code252 also known as D-Day Virus is a malicious program that infects Mac OS classic system files and applications. It carries a non-destructive payload where it can perform certain tasks like displaying a text message, opening a window or even removing itself. This payload is triggered every 6th of June and 31st of December. Strings indicate a message will be displayed when the payload is activated "Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha You have a virus Now erasing all disk! P.S. Have a nice day (Click to continue!)".
Virus.MacOS.Code32767 High Virus.MacOS.Code32767 is a malicious program that infects files found on Mac OS system classic. This virus was named Code32767 because it modifies the infected file to point to its malicious code which is at code 32767.
Virus.MacOS.Code9811 High Virus.MacOS.Code9811 is malicious program which infects 'APPL' type applications found on Mac OS classic. This virus carries a non-destructive payload where it draws a worm all over the users' screen at a specific time and date. Code indicates that this virus will display this message "You have been hacked by Praetorians!".
Virus.MacOS.Flag High Virus.MacOS.Flag is a self-replicating virus that infects application files on Mac OS classic.
Virus.MacOS.Init17 High Virus.MacOS.Init17 is a destructive virus that infects Mac OS classic system and application files. The virus resides in INIT 17 resources.
Virus.MacOS.Init1984 High Virus.MacOS.Init1984 is a destructive virus that infects all .INIT files found on Mac OS classic. This virus carries a destructive payload where it attempts to rename all files to random names and also change file information on every Friday which falls on the 13th day of any month.
Virus.MacOS.Init29 High Virus.MacOS.Init29 is a destructive virus which tries to infect Mac OS classic systems, applications and data files by adding or overwriting the INIT 29 resource.
Virus.MacOS.Init666 High Virus.MacOS.Init666 is a destructive virus that infects classic Mac OS system and application files.
Virus.MacOS.Init9403 High Virus.MacOS.Init9403 is a destructive virus that infects classic Mac OS system applications and the Finder. Upon execution, this virus creates a file named "Preferenze" in the Extensions folder. This allows the virus to execute at every system start up. After a certain number of infections, it overwrites the startup volume and disk information.
Virus.MacOS.InitM High Virus.MacOS.InitM is a destructive virus that infects all .INIT files found on Mac OS classic. This virus carries a destructive payload whicht attempts to rename all files and folders to random names and changes file creation and modification dates to January 1, 1904.
Virus.MacOS.Mbdf High Virus.MacOS.Mbdf is a destructive virus that infects classic Mac OS system files and applications such as Finder. This virus does not have a malicious payload, instead it searches for system files and appends MBDF resources with IDs of 0 and 1. The infection takes time to infect all system files, but the machine will start to show non-responsive behaviour which subsequently resolves to a forced restart. This action will damage system files, and the only solution is to reinstall the affected files. This virus was first seen on the internet associated with shareware games such as "Ten Tile Puzzle" and "Obnoxious Tetris".
Virus.MacOS.Mdef High Virus.MacOS.Mdef is a self-replicating virus that infects classic Mac OS files. It does not have a malicious or destructive payload, instead it infects macintosh resources that is responsible for drawing menus. The infected machine will start to show non-responsive behaviour once a pull down menu is clicked.
Virus.MacOS.Nvir High Virus.MacOS.Nvir is a destructive virus which infects classic Mac OS system files and applications such as Finder. The infection causes system slow down, hangs and crashes.
Virus.MacOS.Scores High Virus.MacOS.Scores is a malicious program that infects Mac OS classic system files and applications, specifically Notepad and Scrapbook. After a number of infections, this virus will start infecting any application when it is opened. The infection causes the system slowdowns and crashes.
Virus.MacOS.Sevendust High Virus.MacOS.Sevendust is a self-replicating virus that infects classic Mac OS applications and system files. Some variant of this virus carries a non-destructive payload where it attempts to delete all non-executable application from the StartupItems during a specific time and day of the month. It appends MDEF resource to all infected application and INIT resource for the system files.
Virus.MacOS.T4 High Virus.MacOS.T4 is a destructive virus that infects System 7 system files, applications and the Finder. The infection causes system slowdowns and crashes. After a certain number of infections, the payload will display this message "Application is infected with the T4 virus".
Virus.MacOS.Wdef High Virus.MacOS.Wdef is a self-replicating virus that infects desktop files used by the System 6 Finder. Although this virus does not have any destructive payload, the infection can affect the system causing it to slow and consequently crash.
Virus.MacOS.Zuc High Virus.MacOS.Zuc is a self-replicating virus that infects application files in classic Mac OS. This virus carries an annoying payload where the cursor will display unusual behaviour after a certain period of time of infection.
Virus.OSX.Leap High Virus.OSX.Leap is an instant messaging worm which propagates via the iChat application, and also a destructive virus which tries to infect other binary files by overwriting their code. This malware was designed to work on Mac OS X running on PowerPC machines.
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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2011, 07:27:17 AM » |
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Well, obviously, I disagree with that since it's a fact that there are no viruses for the Mac and nobody is, or has been, affected by viruses, trojans, malware, and identity thefts from hacking into them.
In the case of "Mac Defender", it's a trojan. Mac's have historically been more secure by virtue of there being far less of them, and thus they're a less tantalizing target. If the user base continues to rise, they become a much more tempting target, and the amount of malware targeted at Mac users will climb. And paradoxically, since so many believe they're immune, they resist the need to use anti-malware programs, making them even more vulnerable... |
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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2011, 07:34:01 AM » |
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Virus, malware, and trojan.
Most of us dummies don't care what its called, just that someone else
is using us like a chump. The point is that Mac users who think "I'm good,
I have a Mac" are vulnerable to being used like a chump.
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« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2011, 10:30:03 AM » |
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Virus, malware, and trojan.
Most of us dummies don't care what its called, just that someone else
is using us like a chump. The point is that Mac users who think "I'm good,
I have a Mac" are vulnerable to being used like a chump.
-Mike
True... most people couldn't care less what it's called. PC users have had to deal with every kind of attack known in the computer world and it doesn't matter to them. Like I said before... I'll stick with my virus-free Mac and you stick with your virus-ridden pc. You've been being used like a chump for years and I have yet to have to deal with it. I'm good, I have a Mac. |
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« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2011, 10:35:49 AM » |
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Well, obviously, I disagree with that since it's a fact that there are no viruses for the Mac and nobody is, or has been, affected by viruses, trojans, malware, and identity thefts from hacking into them.
In the case of "Mac Defender", it's a trojan. Mac's have historically been more secure by virtue of there being far less of them, and thus they're a less tantalizing target. If the user base continues to rise, they become a much more tempting target, and the amount of malware targeted at Mac users will climb. And paradoxically, since so many believe they're immune, they resist the need to use anti-malware programs, making them even more vulnerable... Ah yes. Let's trot out the old "Security by Obscurity" argument. Since you threw that into the mix can you offer some numbers to go with it? How many millions of Macs do there have to be before they are a target? And ya know what? Why the heck should anybody care WHY their computer was virus-free or WHY it's not a target as long as it is? I couldn't care less if that ridiculous argument is true. I still don't have to run virus protection. And if you're not using a Mac... you do. Doesn't bother me if you'd rather deal with it than switch. |
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« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2011, 10:44:22 AM » |
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Hmm,no virus ?
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22 threats found.
Name Threat Level Description
Virus.MacOS.Anti High Virus.MacOS.Anti is self-replicating virus that infects application files on System 6.
Virus.MacOS.Cdef High Virus.MacOS.Cdef is a self-replicating virus which infects desktop files used by System 6. Although this virus does not have any destructive payload, the infection can affect the system causing it to slow down and consequently crash.
Virus.MacOS.Code1 High Virus.MacOS.Code1 is a destructive virus which infects Mac OS classic system files and applications. This virus has known payload which renames the user's infected hard drive to Trent Saburo on the 31st of October of every year.
Virus.MacOS.Code252 High Virus.MacOS.Code252 also known as D-Day Virus is a malicious program that infects Mac OS classic system files and applications. It carries a non-destructive payload where it can perform certain tasks like displaying a text message, opening a window or even removing itself. This payload is triggered every 6th of June and 31st of December. Strings indicate a message will be displayed when the payload is activated "Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha You have a virus Now erasing all disk! P.S. Have a nice day (Click to continue!)".
Virus.MacOS.Code32767 High Virus.MacOS.Code32767 is a malicious program that infects files found on Mac OS system classic. This virus was named Code32767 because it modifies the infected file to point to its malicious code which is at code 32767.
Virus.MacOS.Code9811 High Virus.MacOS.Code9811 is malicious program which infects 'APPL' type applications found on Mac OS classic. This virus carries a non-destructive payload where it draws a worm all over the users' screen at a specific time and date. Code indicates that this virus will display this message "You have been hacked by Praetorians!".
Virus.MacOS.Flag High Virus.MacOS.Flag is a self-replicating virus that infects application files on Mac OS classic.
Virus.MacOS.Init17 High Virus.MacOS.Init17 is a destructive virus that infects Mac OS classic system and application files. The virus resides in INIT 17 resources.
Virus.MacOS.Init1984 High Virus.MacOS.Init1984 is a destructive virus that infects all .INIT files found on Mac OS classic. This virus carries a destructive payload where it attempts to rename all files to random names and also change file information on every Friday which falls on the 13th day of any month.
Virus.MacOS.Init29 High Virus.MacOS.Init29 is a destructive virus which tries to infect Mac OS classic systems, applications and data files by adding or overwriting the INIT 29 resource.
Virus.MacOS.Init666 High Virus.MacOS.Init666 is a destructive virus that infects classic Mac OS system and application files.
Virus.MacOS.Init9403 High Virus.MacOS.Init9403 is a destructive virus that infects classic Mac OS system applications and the Finder. Upon execution, this virus creates a file named "Preferenze" in the Extensions folder. This allows the virus to execute at every system start up. After a certain number of infections, it overwrites the startup volume and disk information.
Virus.MacOS.InitM High Virus.MacOS.InitM is a destructive virus that infects all .INIT files found on Mac OS classic. This virus carries a destructive payload whicht attempts to rename all files and folders to random names and changes file creation and modification dates to January 1, 1904.
Virus.MacOS.Mbdf High Virus.MacOS.Mbdf is a destructive virus that infects classic Mac OS system files and applications such as Finder. This virus does not have a malicious payload, instead it searches for system files and appends MBDF resources with IDs of 0 and 1. The infection takes time to infect all system files, but the machine will start to show non-responsive behaviour which subsequently resolves to a forced restart. This action will damage system files, and the only solution is to reinstall the affected files. This virus was first seen on the internet associated with shareware games such as "Ten Tile Puzzle" and "Obnoxious Tetris".
Virus.MacOS.Mdef High Virus.MacOS.Mdef is a self-replicating virus that infects classic Mac OS files. It does not have a malicious or destructive payload, instead it infects macintosh resources that is responsible for drawing menus. The infected machine will start to show non-responsive behaviour once a pull down menu is clicked.
Virus.MacOS.Nvir High Virus.MacOS.Nvir is a destructive virus which infects classic Mac OS system files and applications such as Finder. The infection causes system slow down, hangs and crashes.
Virus.MacOS.Scores High Virus.MacOS.Scores is a malicious program that infects Mac OS classic system files and applications, specifically Notepad and Scrapbook. After a number of infections, this virus will start infecting any application when it is opened. The infection causes the system slowdowns and crashes.
Virus.MacOS.Sevendust High Virus.MacOS.Sevendust is a self-replicating virus that infects classic Mac OS applications and system files. Some variant of this virus carries a non-destructive payload where it attempts to delete all non-executable application from the StartupItems during a specific time and day of the month. It appends MDEF resource to all infected application and INIT resource for the system files.
Virus.MacOS.T4 High Virus.MacOS.T4 is a destructive virus that infects System 7 system files, applications and the Finder. The infection causes system slowdowns and crashes. After a certain number of infections, the payload will display this message "Application is infected with the T4 virus".
Virus.MacOS.Wdef High Virus.MacOS.Wdef is a self-replicating virus that infects desktop files used by the System 6 Finder. Although this virus does not have any destructive payload, the infection can affect the system causing it to slow and consequently crash.
Virus.MacOS.Zuc High Virus.MacOS.Zuc is a self-replicating virus that infects application files in classic Mac OS. This virus carries an annoying payload where the cursor will display unusual behaviour after a certain period of time of infection.
Virus.OSX.Leap High Virus.OSX.Leap is an instant messaging worm which propagates via the iChat application, and also a destructive virus which tries to infect other binary files by overwriting their code. This malware was designed to work on Mac OS X running on PowerPC machines.
Well, for folks that really just rather argue about it than enjoy the freedom from viruses, I should have been specific enough to point out that I'm talking about today's Macs running on a UNIX platform, known as OS X. You're right in proving that Macs from way back then had virus attacks. So, I stand corrected if my posts appeared to include ancient, outdated, and long-ago discontinued operating systems. But, it's highly unlikely that any Macs are still out there running on those ancient operating systems. It never ceases to amaze me how people will go completely out of their way to show how an ancient discontinued system DID have twenty two (22) viruses so they can justify sticking with a system that has never been virus free and never will. Good job! |
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« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2011, 10:46:58 AM » |
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And ya know what? Why the heck should anybody care WHY their computer was virus-free or WHY it's not a target as long as it is? Because that's a false and misleading statement, and leads people to leave themselves exposed instead of taking the proper precautions that everyone should be taking, I don't care if you're running Windows, Mac, Linux or BeOS. Do Mac's currently have far less exposure to malware than Windows PC's? Sure... But the number is not zero, and thus telling Mac users they don't need to protect themselves and take precautions is irresponsible. That's like claiming that Valkyrie riders tend to be more mature and experienced riders than crotch rocket riders, thus we don't need to wear protective gear since the odds of us getting into an accident are far lower. And for the record, I use Windows for work because that's where my paycheck comes from, I also support Linux, Solaris, VMWare ESX and a smattering of others and Linux for most of my home stuff. I've owned and used most home computers going back to a Commodore VIC-20, Amigas, and yes, even owned a few Macs here and there. I'm not a hater, I'm just a realist. If you enjoy using your Mac, good for you, but don't try to tell people there's no need to take basic precautions against malware just because you're using a Mac, that's all I'm saying. |
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« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2011, 10:48:25 AM » |
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« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2011, 11:03:26 AM » |
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And ya know what? Why the heck should anybody care WHY their computer was virus-free or WHY it's not a target as long as it is? Because that's a false and misleading statement, and leads people to leave themselves exposed instead of taking the proper precautions that everyone should be taking, I don't care if you're running Windows, Mac, Linux or BeOS. Do Mac's currently have far less exposure to malware than Windows PC's? Sure... But the number is not zero, and thus telling Mac users they don't need to protect themselves and take precautions is irresponsible. That's like claiming that Valkyrie riders tend to be more mature and experienced riders than crotch rocket riders, thus we don't need to wear protective gear since the odds of us getting into an accident are far lower. And for the record, I use Windows for work because that's where my paycheck comes from, I also support Linux, Solaris, VMWare ESX and a smattering of others and Linux for most of my home stuff. I've owned and used most home computers going back to a Commodore VIC-20, Amigas, and yes, even owned a few Macs here and there. I'm not a hater, I'm just a realist. If you enjoy using your Mac, good for you, but don't try to tell people there's no need to take basic precautions against malware just because you're using a Mac, that's all I'm saying. OK. Go back and find and quote where I even once advised anyone to not use virus protection. The only "advice" I offered was "Get a Mac". That was a response to someone who was using a PC and got a nasty "thing" which caused him grief. |
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« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2011, 11:07:53 AM » |
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By the way guys, I didn't intend to get into this argument. However, I should have been smart enough by now to know that if a Mac user brings up a Mac or tells someone that they should switch to a Mac, then that Mac user will have to deal with all the crap from PC users. So, why don't we just drop it. You use whatever the heck you want to use and I'll use my Macs. |
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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2011, 11:20:24 AM » |
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By the way guys, I didn't intend to get into this argument. However, I should have been smart enough by now to know that if a Mac user brings up a Mac or tells someone that they should switch to a Mac, then that Mac user will have to deal with all the crap from PC users. So, why don't we just drop it. You use whatever the heck you want to use and I'll use my Macs. And I hate the idea of getting into anything even resembling an argument with another South Carolinian...  Anywho... I'm busy updating firefox and mac OS-X on my macbook right now...  -Mike |
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« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2011, 12:27:54 PM » |
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I have a Mac as well, I really like it. Is anything really safe....no way but it is still better than any PC. I converted half of the hard drive to run Windows 7 but I only surf using the Mac side even though I have virus protection on the PC side.
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« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2011, 04:32:55 PM » |
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By the way guys, I didn't intend to get into this argument. However, I should have been smart enough by now to know that if a Mac user brings up a Mac or tells someone that they should switch to a Mac, then that Mac user will have to deal with all the crap from PC users. So, why don't we just drop it. You use whatever the heck you want to use and I'll use my Macs. And I hate the idea of getting into anything even resembling an argument with another South Carolinian... Anywho... I'm busy updating firefox and mac OS-X on my macbook right now... -Mike Yep. 'Cause one day you just might have to ride with me! |
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« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2011, 02:13:56 PM » |
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Hey.....finally ANOTHER meaningless.....petty....pissing back and forth thread about something other than religion/tire brands/oil/politics/car tires/etc/etc..... We can add Mac vs PC to the list of things people can go on an on about arguing their view point...with all the usual worthless results, rudeness, and "supposedly" valid views....  i guess some things never change........ To think some of us were merely trying to help a fellow Valker....when the thread had to get hijacked and attacked with personal views/opinions.... hey, THIS reply is a meaningless personal opinion....so i best shut up myself  And you just had to jump right in and make your worthless contribution. Feel better? At least everybody else's posts were part of a discussion and not just written to criticize others. Talk about "petty"! You're right. Some things never change. |
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« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2011, 08:43:49 PM » |
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...try this one...best "Free" anti Ive ever found...just click download then click...Run...no need to D/L it if you dont want...it will run right from their site....you wont believe the stuff it will find on the first sweep... http://www.superantispyware.com/portablescanner.html |
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« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2011, 09:08:20 PM » |
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My 2 tiny little cents..... I owned PCs for years and years and years. The last few years they were badly infected with numerous viruses and malware. My wife was always calling me into the kitchen where her computer was to fix the latest virus or whatever. I got so damn sick of it and all that I got us two Apple Macs this year and we couldn't be happier. No viruses or malware at all so far. I still have a Windows laptop to do certain tasks but am happly with surfing with my Applel
I know that Apples are not immune to viruses or malware but they seem to be the exception rather than the rule as far as that goes.
Enjoy your surfing. Kind of like enjoy your riding. Just enjoy. Steve
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« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2011, 06:44:43 AM » |
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...try this one...best "Free" anti Ive ever found...just click download then click...Run...no need to D/L it if you dont want...it will run right from their site....you wont believe the stuff it will find on the first sweep... http://www.superantispyware.com/portablescanner.html~ Timbrwolf --- Have you used that site? Just wanted to check with you on it's legitimacy. The site looks a lot like a scam but I googled it and it sure appears to be legitimate. I have some acquaintances who have PCs and I get asked sometimes about virus software. Since I don't keep up with the Windows world I have to tell them that I'm not familiar. If you've used this, and it works for you, then it's something I can refer them to. And what do you consider to be the best "protection" package? Thanks! |
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« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2011, 07:40:38 AM » |
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I think all those superdupermagicantispychecker places look like scams, but
there's people at the computer center here who swear by the
superantispyware thing...
McAffe and Bill Gates and Norton and those guys have rooms filled with highly paid
people who keep their malware scanners up to date... I'm in the dark about
how these ersatz places could be better or even anywhere near as good. I wish
there was more clear information about how they work. Security that relies on
"big secrets" seems hinkey to me...
Anywho... my peecees have never been infected with anything (that I know of) and
for the last few years I've used Microsoft Security Essentials... free from Microsoft...
-Mike
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