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« on: October 09, 2011, 08:31:07 AM » |
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hey guys,
my valk starter will only engage when in neutral. killswitch off, standup, key on and with clutch in and in gear, she won't turn over, nothing.
only when it's in neutral will it turnover.
what say y'all?
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2011, 08:37:18 AM » |
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Sounds like a bad clutch lever bushing or switch. Haven't had to mess with mine though so not much help with it.
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2011, 08:37:35 AM » |
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It's very easy to run a continuity test on the switch at the clutch lever since both contacts at the switch are visible and easy to access.
That would be the first thing to do.
Certify the clutch lever switch is working properly.
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2011, 01:48:03 PM » |
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It's very easy to run a continuity test on the switch at the clutch lever since both contacts at the switch are visible and easy to access.
That would be the first thing to do.
Certify the clutch lever switch is working properly.
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Is the switch normally opened or closed? Continuity or incontinuity? |
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2011, 02:55:54 PM » |
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Page 427, 9-20, of the service manual.
"There should be continuity with the clutch lever squeezed and no continuity with the leaver released"
between the switch wire terminals.
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2011, 03:53:42 PM » |
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I had the same problem , did all continuity checks all the way through the headlight pot to the starter solenoid-pulled the connector apart and found much corrosion, cleaned the corrosion and added dialectric --problem solved.
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2011, 04:40:59 PM » |
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Are you using stock levers? I changed to the kuri GL1800 adjustable levers and had that issue; untill I played around with the dial adjustment. You need almost a full pull on the lever to trip the switch.
Fred.
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2011, 05:45:58 PM » |
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How much up/down wiggle is there at the end of your clutch lever? My "bad" lever had about 1/4" of play when I had the same symptoms as you. Replacing the lever with a new one reduced the play to approx. 1/16" and the bike will now start in gear with the clutch in. A worn lever will not allow the switch to be depressed properly.
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2011, 06:29:29 PM » |
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There's an earlier post among others which may apply to your situation .... * only starts when in neutral* |
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mario
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2011, 06:35:36 PM » |
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Are you using stock levers? I changed to the kuri GL1800 adjustable levers and had that issue; untill I played around with the dial adjustment. You need almost a full pull on the lever to trip the switch.
Fred.
fred! i do have the same levers as you and put them on not too long ago. the issue just started. i've had them on several weeks. i'll have to check that out. thanks, all, for your replys. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2011, 06:44:01 PM » |
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and thanks for the thread ronw. |
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2011, 06:47:35 PM » |
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Mario, as thing would have it, I just happened to be reading a post I saved earlier and stumbled upon the similar problem being discussed. Hey.
Re: adjustable clutch lever. I think that glitch has been discussed previously .... something about grinding a smidgen of metal off the tab that engages the clutch switch. It might not have been here, perhaps I'm remembering sumpthing on the GL1800 forum. If memory serves, even for a GL1800 the adjustable clutch lever isn't a plug n' play item.
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2011, 07:02:54 PM » |
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Mario, as thing would have it, I just happened to be reading a post I saved earlier and stumbled upon the similar problem being discussed. Hey.
Re: adjustable clutch lever. I think that glitch has been discussed previously .... something about grinding a smidgen of metal off the tab that engages the clutch switch. It might not have been here, perhaps I'm remembering sumpthing on the GL1800 forum. If memory serves, even for a GL1800 the adjustable clutch lever isn't a plug n' play item.
yes, in order to get the gl1800 to work on the valk, i had to dremel the tab off. i'll check to make sure enough is ground off. it was working, tho, in gear, so we'll see. thanks again. |
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2011, 07:18:23 PM » |
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I'm beleaguering the point here, but with adjustable clutch levers ..... designed to position the clutch lever ergonomically closer to the handgrip .... keeping the proper alignment between the clutch switch and the mating tab on the lever is not all that simple without some modification to the OEM geometry that works with the arc of the swing of the lever at all preset positions. Dunno about the adjustable levers more readily available for sports bikes, the manufacturers might have that down pat. Anyways, in the absence of a safety interlock, you could simply install a bolt to keep the clutch lever from retracting too far out, albeit, adjusting the friction zone of the clutch accordingly.  |
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2011, 10:25:23 PM » |
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The other issue to watch out for with these levers is that the brake light will stay on unless you push the lever foreward with a finger. Grind off the raised ring on the bottom of the lever where the bushing and bolt go through it (about 2mm) and this issue dissappears.
Fred.
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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2011, 10:55:00 PM » |
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here, the manufacturer of the adjustable levers are just promising too much. If I had done it, I would have manufactured a lever that retracts a ΒΌ-inch less than the stock position or whatever. A single setting so to speak. When you drive a car you adjust the front seat. You don't have this adjustment with a motorbike seat but you live with it or adapt to it. Same thing with a closer-than-stock-position lever but non adjustable. Might not give the ideal fit but good enuff.
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