Why isn't there any talk about gas prices?

[Robert]

4.13 a gallon in my area ridiculous. 

[MacDragon]

And it's going up... $3.77 here.

[Chattanooga Mark]

Hope and Change

Mark

[dosnewfs]

What is there to talk about.  Demand is up a little elsewhere, people are scared of the [enter middle east country name] thing, and speculators are speculating...  Same thing different year.

Demand will pull back some, prices will follow some....

[MP]

Last time when prices went up, it was all Bush's fault.

Of course, NONE of it is now Hussain's fault!!  What a joke!

MP

[Robert]

I just get mad when the government that should regulate gas prices stop speculation on the market just sits there and lets the people get the shaft all the time. Yet we will watch Exxon profits post another tremendous jump in profit all the time hearing well there's nothing we can do. If people just let this go then they will feel free to keep up this garbage. Led like lambs to the slaughter.

[texaninsouthfl]

I just get mad when the government that should regulate gas prices stop speculation on the market just sits there and lets the people get the shaft all the time. Yet we will watch Exxon profits post another tremendous jump in profit all the time hearing well there's nothing we can do. If people just let this go then they will feel free to keep up this garbage. Led like lambs to the slaughter.

Why should government regulate gas prices any more than they should any other commodity?

It's often government interference in a particular market that fouls things up to start with... and then people buy into the "it's the evil, greedy oil company's fault."  This despite the fact that oil industry profit MARGINS are relatively meager. They make billions because it's a mega billion dollar industry, NOT because the margins are high. http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2011/05/oil-profit-margin-ranks-114-out-215.html

What needs to happen is our grand imperial federal gubmint needs to stop impeding our domestic energy producers from producing. It makes me ill to see BHO trying to take credit for an increase in domestic oil production when it's PRIVATE industry is managing to produce ... in SPITE of his administration throwing every possible barrier up.

[Robert]

I just get mad when the government that should regulate gas prices stop speculation on the market just sits there and lets the people get the shaft all the time. Yet we will watch Exxon profits post another tremendous jump in profit all the time hearing well there's nothing we can do. If people just let this go then they will feel free to keep up this garbage. Led like lambs to the slaughter.

Why should government regulate gas prices any more than they should any other commodity?

It's often government interference in a particular market that fouls things up to start with... and then people buy into the "it's the evil, greedy oil company's fault."  This despite the fact that oil industry profit MARGINS are relatively meager. They make billions because it's a mega billion dollar industry, NOT because the margins are high. http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2011/05/oil-profit-margin-ranks-114-out-215.html

What needs to happen is our grand imperial federal gubmint needs to stop impeding our domestic energy producers from producing. It makes me ill to see BHO trying to take credit for an increase in domestic oil production when it's PRIVATE industry is managing to produce ... in SPITE of his administration throwing every possible barrier up.

I dont disagree with you entirely but the speculators drive the prices up for one this should be stopped and two if you look Exxon profits have never gone down but have in many cases doubled.
revenue rose to $125.3 billion from $95.3 billion in the year-ago quarter, the company said.
HOUSTON—Exxon Mobil Corp. on Thursday said its third-quarter earnings surged about 41% despite a drop in production as it continued to benefit from climbing oil prices and stronger refining margins.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203554104577001523057007892.html
All this coupled with the billions in tax breaks these companies receive and they say if pulled will lead to lower production as a veiled threat. So yes I am not for goverment control but the regulation of these areas alone would go along way in helping the US.

[..]

Hi Robert,

Over the years this subject has been flogged to death.

[Insert tongue in cheek font here] Anywho, with the use of electricity for cars and light vehicles and heavy trucks running on algae fuel all our worries will soon be behind us.

[Robert]

Hi Robert,

Over the years this subject has been flogged to death.

[Insert tongue in cheek font here] Anywho, with the use of electricity for cars and light vehicles and heavy trucks running on algae fuel all our worries will soon be behind us.

I kinda agree with you but I think its a great way to see the apathy of all of us to take the reasons for the stuff that hits us rather than fighting back. Kinda like a dip stick on the bike when the oil gets low. You dont just let it go and say that its just going to go low again so why fill it. All we need to do is accept this is the way it is and it will be the way it is. All it takes is us/US to let those in Washington know that its not them but us that is in control. How do we do this one outraged citizen at a time. Thats really all the lobbyists are special interests pay people to bend the politicians ear well call do something or just complain to a neighbor.

[..]

Hi Robert,

Over the years this subject has been flogged to death.

[Insert tongue in cheek font here] Anywho, with the use of electricity for cars and light vehicles and heavy trucks running on algae fuel all our worries will soon be behind us.

I kinda agree with you but I think its a great way to see the apathy of all of us to take the reasons for the stuff that hits us rather than fighting back. Kinda like a dip stick on the bike when the oil gets low. You dont just let it go and say that its just going to go low again so why fill it. All we need to do is accept this is the way it is and it will be the way it is. All it takes is us/US to let those in Washington know that its not them but us that is in control. How do we do this one outraged citizen at a time. Thats really all the lobbyists are special interests pay people to bend the politicians ear well call do something or just complain to a neighbor.

I agree. BUT the politicians soon find that their bread is butterd on many sides.

[Robert]

Oh SE about those other people yep you are right, but Saudi Arabia still has the production ability to keep up with demand. Plus the US if allowed has enough reserves to keep it going independently for say at least another 200 years without the drilling of all the protected areas. The Iranian oil accounts for only a small percentage of oil not really worth mentioning that the Saudis have already signaled they willingly will make up for. Also how about the oil in Iraq or some other places we have poured money into why dont we get some of that investment back rather than just the oil companies and private companies. Under Saddam Iraq was one of the top oil producers and how can we go into a coutry supposedly turn it around our men die there spend trillions of dollars and we get nothing back and the country kicks us out. We dont show the Iraqis how to make their economy  to work so all benefit. So as I hear you talk more and more I know that you are in the same pack as the politicians and  have the same makeup.
  Plus the way supply side economics work is that when the demand is high and supply is short then prices go up. There is a consistency there. But when to many have their hands in the till it happens differently prices stay level till some anticipated activity happens then they raise prices and when things go back to normal they lower the prices again. Or may try to keep prices at a inflated level till so they make more money like Exxon and other companies. Do we have a embargo? Did the ships stop pulling into port? Did the Saudi run out of oil? Did the estimates of the remaining oil change? Has the US reserves had to be used to avert a National problem? OH there are so many more questions like has the Saudis stopped taking US dollars to pay for oil?

[Robert]

Hi Robert,

Over the years this subject has been flogged to death.

[Insert tongue in cheek font here] Anywho, with the use of electricity for cars and light vehicles and heavy trucks running on algae fuel all our worries will soon be behind us.

I kinda agree with you but I think its a great way to see the apathy of all of us to take the reasons for the stuff that hits us rather than fighting back. Kinda like a dip stick on the bike when the oil gets low. You dont just let it go and say that its just going to go low again so why fill it. All we need to do is accept this is the way it is and it will be the way it is. All it takes is us/US to let those in Washington know that its not them but us that is in control. How do we do this one outraged citizen at a time. Thats really all the lobbyists are special interests pay people to bend the politicians ear well call do something or just complain to a neighbor.

I agree. BUT the politicians soon find that their bread is butterd on many sides.

EXACTLY but we need to show them it really isnt buttered on many sides when it comes to the people which is my point its who screams the loudest.

[Dave Ritsema]

Oh SE about those other people yep you are right, but Saudi Arabia still has the production ability to keep up with demand. Plus the US if allowed has enough reserves to keep it going independently for say at least another 200 years without the drilling of all the protected areas. The Iranian oil accounts for only a small percentage of oil not really worth mentioning that the Saudis have already signaled they willingly will make up for. Also how about the oil in Iraq or some other places we have poured money into why dont we get some of that investment back rather than just the oil companies and private companies. Under Saddam Iraq was one of the top oil producers and how can we go into a coutry supposedly turn it around our men die there spend trillions of dollars and we get nothing back and the country kicks us out. We dont show the Iraqis how to make their economy  to work so all benefit. So as I hear you talk more and more I know that you are in the same pack as the politicians and  have the same makeup.

Like I said... you don't know sh*t about the global oil economy.

SE, Do you ever read what you type before you post it and consider how you come across? The majority of your posts all have some kind of negative bent to them.  It's natural to have different viewpoints and healthy debates are both interesting and sometimes enlightening.

Your obvious intellect is greatly dimminished by your hateful attitude. I actuallly feel sorry for you, it appears your a very unhappy person on the inside. It's obvious your a smart guy, maybe it's time to hit the self-check button. We all need to do it from time to time. You will most likely roll your eyes but I said a little prayer for you and hope that whatever burden is making your heart so hard will become lighter.

[texaninsouthfl]

"... Your obvious intellect... "

You give him too much credit... liberal just THINK they are smarter than everyone else. 

[MAD6Gun]

SE, Do you ever read what you type before you post it and consider how you come across? The majority of your posts all have some kind of negative bent to them.  It's natural to have different viewpoints and healthy debates are both interesting and sometimes enlightening.

Your obvious intellect is greatly dimminished by your hateful attitude. I actuallly feel sorry for you, it appears your a very unhappy person on the inside. It's obvious your a smart guy, maybe it's time to hit the self-check button. We all need to do it from time to time. You will most likely roll your eyes but I said a little prayer for you and hope that whatever burden is making your heart so hard will become lighter.

 Right on Dave. You hit the nail right on the head. Except for maybe the Intelligence part.

 He can never have a simple exchange of opinions without calling someone ideas "crap" or calling them "assholes" or referring they are stupid......

[RoadKill]

Supply and demand works fine if you keep the politicians completely away from it.  When government tries to regulate ANYTHING  it goes to crap.  

Stop whining that congress should give you gas for  " A Dollah " unless you really think Obama is gonna pay your rent too!

[Robert]

So SE educate us.

[Robert]

http://www.newsmax.com/video/viewid/be50041a-b66d-4d0a-a4df-962c8fd5957a
If you go to 4.40 you will hear this head of the energy commission talk about what needs to be done about gas prices and I would listen to the beging that talks about  Solyndra affair

[old2soon]

In just a little less than a month here in the Ozarks our gasoline prices(all grades)have gone up .30 .35 cents a gallon. Took a short ride today and took notice of 3.499 a gallon. I would tell that "energy czar" i don't live in europe and don't need to pay the prices they do. Course you KNOW how much good that would do. RIDE SAFE-even though it's gonna cost WAY MORE.

[macdoesit]

Choctaw, Oklahoma
$3.39 at the Country Boy. He always stays less than anybody else in the state. He has one station 8 pumps and is always busy.
By the way he only sells 100% gas. I use the 91 octane it is $3.44

[3fan4life]

Why?  Your statement suggests that you don't know sh*t about the global oil economy... you know... those little tiny, marginally populated places like India and China.  You know what?  They want cars.  They want refrigerators.  They want aircon.  Just like you, good buddy.

IN YOUR OWN WORDS:

Why do you post this tripe?  What is your point?  I think you are a Bezerker, long on rants, short on knowledge and insight. Would you drop this crap, please?

[alph]

Like I said... you don't know sh*t about the global oil economy.

oh, and like you do.  explain to me why milk is more expensive in wisconsin then it is in minnesota or illinoise, explain to me why oranges are more expensive in florida. 

what makes you an expert?

[macdoesit]

Somebody pissed on S E's Rice Krispies this morning.   

[junior]

4.13 a gallon in my area ridiculous. 

Why?  Your statement suggests that you don't know sh*t about the global oil economy... you know... those little tiny, marginally populated places like India and China.  You know what?  They want cars.  They want refrigerators.  They want aircon.  Just like you, good buddy.

ok i am offended he is questioning my intelligents, and sluring my asian beleifs

[..]

Unfortuantely if we did drill, drill, drill and produce more "home grown" oil the rest of the global oil producers would cut back on their production. Why flood the market and lower prices?

All of you with a pension you contribute to OR if retired take money from need to take a look at which companies your pension fund is invested in.

There's a very strong chance it has millions of $ invested in oil / gas companies. Some at home, some abroad.

If you are willing to tell your fund manager to stop investing in these companies and they do (unlikely) maybe (unlikely) oil / gas prices will come down.


I do notice travelling around that their is one obvious disparity with pump prices. Here in GA during the last gas price run up in 2008 under George (it was his fault remember) gas suddenly developed a 15c per gas grade increase.

There are some states where it is still a 10c grade increase.

Market forces at play. If they charge it and consumers keep on buying it.................................


I will agree that hearing the Federal Govt tell the people of America that we don't pay enough at the pump sucks. What business is it of theirs?

[musclehead]

I just get mad when the government that should regulate gas prices stop speculation on the market just sits there and lets the people get the shaft all the time. Yet we will watch Exxon profits post another tremendous jump in profit all the time hearing well there's nothing we can do. If people just let this go then they will feel free to keep up this garbage. Led like lambs to the slaughter.

I don't want the government to swoop in and do anything, nine times out of ten when they do something it's wrong.

[RonW]

[alph]

I don't want the government to swoop in and do anything, nine times out of ten when they do something it's wrong.

really, 9 out of 10 times they screw things up?  where the hell do you get that "1"!!  show me the one time when they did something right in the last 20 years!! 

[junior]

I don't want the government to swoop in and do anything, nine times out of ten when they do something it's wrong.

really, 9 out of 10 times they screw things up?  where the hell do you get that "1"!!  show me the one time when they did something right in the last 20 years!! 

they didnt let Hillary become prez..........lol

and gas here is 3.65 agal

[RDAbull]

they didnt let Hillary become prez..........lol

I'm not a fan of Hillarys, but she would have been better than Bary.

[Art708]

they didnt let Hillary become prez..........lol

I'm not a fan of Hillarys, but she would have been better than Bary.

  I definitely wasn't a supporter of Bill and Hillary....but damn I miss them now. I'd take 2 Bill and Hillary over one Barrck and Michelle any day.

[Hotrodwing]

Took a ride in the car yesterday 60 miles from home saw 3.99 per gal.  WTF oh yea this was in northeast PA

[R J]

Like I said... you don't know sh*t about the global oil economy.

oh, and like you do.  explain to me why milk is more expensive in wisconsin then it is in minnesota or illinoise, explain to me why oranges are more expensive in florida.  

what makes you an expert?

What makes him an expert, he is over 50 miles from home in a suit and tie with a  briefcase.

Another definition is a drip under pressure.

Also, he is a sexual intellect, a firkin know it all.

Your turn SE............

[Spirited-6]

So SE educate us.

OH, Sh#&, now you`re done it. 

[musclehead]

So SE educate us.

that's a bridge too far, denigrate and insult yes but inform no way!

[ComradBlack]

4.13 a gallon in my area ridiculous. 

$5.oo for a 12oz coffee must be even more ridiculous then.

Afterall the Coffee companies didn't spend billions finding the coffee
Drilling for Coffee
Building pipelines for coffee
Using vast amounts of other energy refining the coffee into other usable products.
All while paying the highest of 1st world wages to its employee's

Also there is no eco-war being raged coffee.
The EPA does not place higher and higher demands for the refinement of cleaner coffee with a longer and longer list additives to be put in coffee.

And theres not much to talk about when it comes to taxing coffee by the different levels of Government.

Maybe $4.13 a gallon isnt so ridiculous afterall.

[alph]

4.13 a gallon in my area ridiculous. 

$5.oo for a 12oz coffee must be even more ridiculous then.

Afterall the Coffee companies didn't spend billions finding the coffee
Drilling for Coffee
Building pipelines for coffee
Using vast amounts of other energy refining the coffee into other usable products.
All while paying the highest of 1st world wages to its employee's

Also there is no eco-war being raged coffee.
The EPA does not place higher and higher demands for the refinement of cleaner coffee with a longer and longer list additives to be put in coffee.

And theres not much to talk about when it comes to taxing coffee by the different levels of Government.

Maybe $4.13 a gallon isnt so ridiculous afterall.

that there is just plain logic at work, never mind some people will kill you if they don't get that coffee!!

[musclehead]

I knew there was a reason I don't drink coffee!

when did "4 bucks" become "5 bucks"?  ouch!

[Trynt]

[/quote]

SE, . . . .
Your obvious intellect is greatly dimminished by your hateful attitude. I actuallly feel sorry for you, it appears your a very unhappy person on the inside. 
[/quote]

  You got that right Dave!!!