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CBO estimates $6.4 trillion in deficits over 10 years under Obama’s policies. No more Obama = no more trillion dollar deficits. “LIKE” if you’re FED UP with Obama’s debt
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2012, 12:52:16 PM » |
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I find the total dollar figure of the recession far less troubling than WHAT it's being spent on.
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I find the total dollar figure of the recession far less troubling than WHAT it's being spent on.
Amen to that. It's crazy ain't it.
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I find the total dollar figure of the recession far less troubling than WHAT it's being spent on.
wonder if he got his money's worth, i guess it depends if he gets re-elected, then it was all worth it.... 
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With the three waterheads the Republican's are pushing they are sending a guarantee that the waterhead in charge now will get ( 4 ) more  That's just my opinion I'll have trouble voting for any of them....Ron Paul for President 
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2012, 01:03:48 PM » |
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Mitt will win and you can count me in.
Obama is a dud.
Anything is better than what we got.
Bought and paid for by Ole Geroge Soros.
He is a stooge.
And not like in the 3 stooges.
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good Lord Joe, dont let the union get wind of you liking a republican,,,i made that mistake once,,
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2012, 01:10:49 PM » |
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Bought and paid for by Ole Geroge Soros. Soros or the Koch brothers. Your next president is going to be owned by someone.
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2012, 01:12:10 PM » |
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good Lord Joe, dont let the union get wind of you liking a republican,,,i made that mistake once,,
Ron Paul is the only one with a clue about the working man and that's not sayin' much....Sad times we live in when everyone in line to run this great country could careless about the folks that pay's the bills the working middle class.
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good Lord Joe, dont let the union get wind of you liking a republican,,,i made that mistake once,,
Ron Paul is the only one with a clue about the working man and that's not sayin' much....Sad times we live in when everyone in line to run this great country could careless about the folks that pay's the bills the working middle class. that is exactly the way i feel,, back in 75 i rewired Ron Pauls house in Lake Jackson, Tx. he is a stand up guy!!
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Just curious...did that report state that the figure was purely just from Obama policy? Or is that just total deficit? In other words, how much of that figure was inherited by Obama from legacy policy...like 2 wars, a crashing economy resulting in reduced revenues and increased unemployment, medicade, and welfare expenses, unfunded tax cuts, and unfunded Medicare Part D? You do remember we were running historic deficits under the previous administration as well, right?
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2012, 10:57:26 PM » |
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good Lord Joe, dont let the union get wind of you liking a republican,,,i made that mistake once,,
Ron Paul is the only one with a clue about the working man and that's not sayin' much....Sad times we live in when everyone in line to run this great country could careless about the folks that pay's the bills the working middle class. I like Ron Paul as well!! The problem is that if he did get elected, he could never get many of the clowns that call themselves Representatives or Legislators to go along with him. It would just be total deadlock until someone blinked. Hell, we can't get anything done now because no one wants to give in to anyone else. They all suck!  Clear the Herd!!! 
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Just curious...did that report state that the figure was purely just from Obama policy? Or is that just total deficit? In other words, how much of that figure was inherited by Obama from legacy policy...like 2 wars, a crashing economy resulting in reduced revenues and increased unemployment, medicade, and welfare expenses, unfunded tax cuts, and unfunded Medicare Part D? You do remember we were running historic deficits under the previous administration as well, right?
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2012, 04:37:57 AM » |
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With the three waterheads the Republican's are pushing they are sending a guarantee that the waterhead in charge now will get ( 4 ) more  That's just my opinion I'll have trouble voting for any of them....Ron Paul for President  Yep. They ran the worst candidate last time around and it looks like it's going to happen again. I'm not sure it's possible for a principled, thinking candidate to get elected anymore. I know I've said it before but our elections seem to resemble 1970's professional wrestling more than reasoned people plotting a course for the future. Any concept that's too difficult to fit into a short soundbite seems to be left out altogether. And candidates can vote one way, speak the other and few seem to notice. 
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Kennedy got the Prez Spot because he looked better on TV than Nixon. Clinton got it cause Ross Perot ran and pushed Clinton over the top. Obama got it cause the press loved the little darling.  Maybe this time we get a guy who will simply do the job and not try to look pretty doing it. Just do the job. WE don't get that much anymore. Narcicist or Megalomaniacs of the worst kind. Harry Truman, was the last guy that simply did the job without fanfare and wanting credit for saving the world, which he did of course.
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2012, 05:04:34 AM » |
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I do not respect our leaders anymore.
When I was a kid I revered the President and most all Congressional Leadership.
I watched the Speaches to the Nation with Great Interest.
But when Clinton got caught committing adultery in the Oval Office, Poor Old BushII could not say crap with a mouthful,
and Obama is well just a stooge, it's hard to take them serious anymore.
The world seems smaller, the USA seems off mission, and the Politicians are bought an sold all day long.
Maybe it was always that way. But I sure miss the old days when I trusted them and thought they were looking out for us.
What a huge let down.
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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2012, 05:20:37 AM » |
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I do not respect our leaders anymore.
When I was a kid I revered the President and most all Congressional Leadership.
I watched the Speaches to the Nation with Great Interest.
But when Clinton got caught committing adultery in the Oval Office, Poor Old BushII could not say crap with a mouthful,
and Obama is well just a stooge, it's hard to take them serious anymore.
The world seems smaller, the USA seems off mission, and the Politicians are bought an sold all day long.
Maybe it was always that way. But I sure miss the old days when I trusted them and thought they were looking out for us.
What a huge let down.
Man, well said Al.
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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2012, 05:23:06 AM » |
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The only one running I trust is Ron Paul but it's not looking good for him. I think the current front runners spend more on their hair than I do on my bike.
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The Republican candidates are more interested in bad mouthing each other than they are in having a plan for what's best for the country. The Democrats are licking it up!
All, Dems and Repubs, are a bunch of power hungry clowns. The present two party system is kaput!
AND we still have those that are interested in talking about 'draining the Swamp' when we up to our arse in alligators.
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2012, 07:10:56 AM » |
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Just curious...did that report state that the figure was purely just from Obama policy? Or is that just total deficit? In other words, how much of that figure was inherited by Obama from legacy policy...
Oh I think you know the answer to that.
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We need a some Texas ideas in the White house  Arizona ideas wouldn't be bad ether
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« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2012, 08:51:54 AM » |
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We need a some Texas ideas in the White house  Arizona ideas wouldn't be bad ether Didn't we have 12 of the last 23 years with "Texas ideas" in the White House? And 8 more with "Arkansas ideas", which is just next door to Texas? I think it's time for some GOOD ideas in the White House. 
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Didn't we have 12 of the last 23 years with "Texas ideas" in the White House?
Nope... George HW Bush (Bush Sr.) was born in Massachusetts George W Bush (Bush Jr.) was born in Connecticut And just like ya' can't be born in Kenya and be a Natural Born Citizen of the United States of America, you can't be born outside of Texas and be a Texan. (And yeah, "My Guy" Ron Paul isn't a Texan either... Pennsylvania...)
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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2012, 10:02:24 AM » |
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That old saw is wearing very thin. Its not still Bushes fault, BHO owns it. He is even more incompentent than Jimmy Carter. Tipical liberal response, blame anyone and anything but the party responsible. If you tell a lie often enough, it must be true, or at least you will convince yourself it is.
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Pay no attention to what he says.
ONLY TO WHAT HE DOES AND YOU CAN almost predict his next move.
Saying it is all he does.
Never changes his mind on anything like Clinton did.
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Did I hear(or just dream) that he signed papers about three days ago to make it a felony for us to talk bad about him??
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Did I hear(or just dream) that he signed papers about three days ago to make it a felony for us to talk bad about him??
That is next, he will laugh when he says it. Watch what he does not what he says. But when he is hauling you away, you won't be. Laughing that is. When he just does it to republicans, a lot will say that is OK. Then when he does it to Independants, a lot will say that is ok. Then when he comes for you who will fight for the rest of you ins.
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Did I hear(or just dream) that he signed papers about three days ago to make it a felony for us to talk bad about him??
He does have a group of people that are supposed to report you and I to a web site when derogatory things are said about him. JUST SO HE CAN SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT FOR THOSE THAT TALK BAD ABOUT HIM, Yah right. That is a undisputed fact. Hummm sounds a little like a few places I have heard of before doing to the population what it wants too.
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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2012, 12:30:49 PM » |
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Just curious...did that report state that the figure was purely just from Obama policy? Or is that just total deficit? In other words, how much of that figure was inherited by Obama from legacy policy...like 2 wars, a crashing economy resulting in reduced revenues and increased unemployment, medicade, and welfare expenses, unfunded tax cuts, and unfunded Medicare Part D? You do remember we were running historic deficits under the previous administration as well, right?
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Didn't we have 12 of the last 23 years with "Texas ideas" in the White House?
Nope... George HW Bush (Bush Sr.) was born in Massachusetts George W Bush (Bush Jr.) was born in Connecticut And just like ya' can't be born in Kenya and be a Natural Born Citizen of the United States of America, you can't be born outside of Texas and be a Texan. (And yeah, "My Guy" Ron Paul isn't a Texan either... Pennsylvania...) That's kind of a load of horseshit Serk. So are you telling me that as long as you're born in Texas that you are a Texan for life regardless of how much time you spend there? Or does this little philosophy only work to your advantage in arguments? We've had enough of Texans in the White House, regardless of what Texans will say.
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That's kind of a load of horseshit Serk. So are you telling me that as long as you're born in Texas that you are a Texan for life regardless of how much time you spend there? Or does this little philosophy only work to your advantage in arguments?
We've had enough of Texans in the White House, regardless of what Texans will say.
I'll explain it again, and type slowly to help you comprehend... If you're born in Texas, you're a Texan. If you're not born in Texas, you're not a Texan. Simple as that. That applies all the time, not just when we're disowning the 3rd worst president in modern times. And yes, that means there have only been 2 Texans as president: Eisenhower and Johnson.
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That's kind of a load of horseshit Serk. So are you telling me that as long as you're born in Texas that you are a Texan for life regardless of how much time you spend there? Or does this little philosophy only work to your advantage in arguments?
We've had enough of Texans in the White House, regardless of what Texans will say.
I'll explain it again, and type slowly to help you comprehend... If you're born in Texas, you're a Texan. If you're not born in Texas, you're not a Texan. Simple as that. No, no I got that. I just think it's a load of crap. 
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piss on it i say put the poorest on in the white house it dont matter wether they are dems or rep and watch them balance the budget,
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I wish that were true, Al. He is extremely intelligent and has a plan for this country. After he is re-elected, just watch and wait. It will not be pretty. The "Great Recession" is nothing compared to what lies ahead. jmho
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Just curious...did that report state that the figure was purely just from Obama policy? Or is that just total deficit? In other words, how much of that figure was inherited by Obama from legacy policy...like 2 wars, a crashing economy resulting in reduced revenues and increased unemployment, medicade, and welfare expenses, unfunded tax cuts, and unfunded Medicare Part D? You do remember we were running historic deficits under the previous administration as well, right?
That old saw is wearing very thin. Its not still Bushes fault, BHO owns it. He is even more incompentent than Jimmy Carter. Tipical liberal response, blame anyone and anything but the party responsible. If you tell a lie often enough, it must be true, or at least you will convince yourself it is. And that's a typical conservative response. Your party took a balanced budget with a surplus and ran it into record deficits, started 2 wars off the books, and crashed the economy. Then a new president from the other party takes over, tries to fix it while facing facing a record number (almost 3 times the historic amount) of filibusters obstructing every single thing, and you want to say he owns it? Fine, but what part does the republican house and "controlling minority" in the senate own considering all legislation actually comes from congress? Every president has to live with the legislation that was passed by previous administrations...that's a fact. The only incompetence is the fact that he was too naive in thinking that the republicans wouldn't actually put political gain ahead of saving the country in the middle of a financial crisis. Unfortunately, it took almost 3 years to figure that out before he changed his negotiating strategy. If you are so smart, what would you have him do? We were running about a deficit of about $0.40 to $0.45 per dollar when he took office. So what 45% of the budget would you cut? Your SS and Medicare that I know you are collecting? Gut the military, that I know you are loyal to, during a war? Or would you raise taxes 45%? If you don't like what the President is doing, what is your solution? Oh that's right...republicans have no solutions. That way they don't have to be responsible for anything. 
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Just curious...did that report state that the figure was purely just from Obama policy? Or is that just total deficit? In other words, how much of that figure was inherited by Obama from legacy policy...like 2 wars, a crashing economy resulting in reduced revenues and increased unemployment, medicade, and welfare expenses, unfunded tax cuts, and unfunded Medicare Part D? You do remember we were running historic deficits under the previous administration as well, right?
That old saw is wearing very thin. Its not still Bushes fault, BHO owns it. He is even more incompentent than Jimmy Carter. Tipical liberal response, blame anyone and anything but the party responsible. If you tell a lie often enough, it must be true, or at least you will convince yourself it is. And that's a typical conservative response. Your party took a balanced budget with a surplus and ran it into record deficits, started 2 wars off the books, and crashed the economy. Then a new president from the other party takes over, tries to fix it while facing facing a record number (almost 3 times the historic amount) of filibusters obstructing every single thing, and you want to say he owns it? Fine, but what part does the republican house and "controlling minority" in the senate own considering all legislation actually comes from congress? Every president has to live with the legislation that was passed by previous administrations...that's a fact. The only incompetence is the fact that he was too naive in thinking that the republicans wouldn't actually put political gain ahead of saving the country in the middle of a financial crisis. Unfortunately, it took almost 3 years to figure that out before he changed his negotiating strategy. If you are so smart, what would you have him do? We were running about a deficit of about $0.40 to $0.45 per dollar when he took office. So what 45% of the budget would you cut? Your SS and Medicare that I know you are collecting? Gut the military, that I know you are loyal to, during a war? Or would you raise taxes 45%? If you don't like what the President is doing, what is your solution? Oh that's right...republicans have no solutions. That way they don't have to be responsible for anything.  What did the five fingers say to the face? SLAP!
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« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2012, 09:37:34 AM » |
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Just curious...did that report state that the figure was purely just from Obama policy? Or is that just total deficit? In other words, how much of that figure was inherited by Obama from legacy policy...like 2 wars, a crashing economy resulting in reduced revenues and increased unemployment, medicade, and welfare expenses, unfunded tax cuts, and unfunded Medicare Part D? You do remember we were running historic deficits under the previous administration as well, right?
Ya, I amost forgot......Its still all George Bushs fault. Obama said he was going to halve the deficit, yet he doubled it. Thats twice as bad as just failing......double failure on that one..........Im tired of him complaining he inherited the problems, but gives no credit when he inherits a solution. Obama is trying to boast that under his watch oil production is up. HAHAHA....what a joke, its up maybe a little IN SPITE of Obama and all because George Bush made some good decisions about what oil companies could start doing to increase productivity I pulled into agas station yesterday....minding my own business pumped gas.....100 miles to go to get home YeeeHa. This guy drinking a beer at a picknic table at the side of the gas station/store says I cant stand this BS prices keep going higher....its BS..........I said remember that when you vote.......his reply was I will never vote, This is BS...........I walked over to him and smiled and said very personally politely and directly...."Then you are part of the problem" His little sarcastic grin went away and he drank some more beer.........What a perfect picture of where many in our country are.........they will complain all day but wont do anything, dont know anything, dont really care, just want to complain
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