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« on: May 05, 2012, 02:18:04 PM »

Racism ???
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Racism is generally understood as either belief that different racial groups are characterized by intrinsic characteristics
or abilities and that some such groups are therefore naturally superior to others or as practices that discriminate against
members of particular racial groups,[1] for example by perpetuating unequal access to resources between groups.[3]

The definition of racism is controversial both because there is little scholarly agreement about what the word "race" means,
and because there is also little agreement about what does and doesn't constitute discrimination.

Some definitions would have it that any assumption that a person's behavior would be influenced by their racial categorization is racist,
regardless of how seemingly benign such assumptions might be. Other definitions would only include conscious malignant forms of discrimination.

Among the questions about how to define racismare the question of whether to include forms of discrimination that are unintentional,
such as making assumptions about preferences or abilities of others based on racial stereotypes,
whether to include institutionalized forms of discrimination such as the circulation of racial stereotypes through the media
and whether to include the socio-political dynamics of social stratification that sometimes have a racial component.

"Racism" and "racial discrimination" are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis,
independent of whether these differences are described as racial. According to the United Nations conventions,
there is no distinction between the terms racial discrimination and ethnicity discrimination.[/u]

In politics, racism is commonly located on the far right due to the far right’s common association with nativism, racism, and xenophobia.

In history, racism has been a major part of the political and ideological underpinning of genocides such as the holocaust,
but also in colonial contexts such as the rubber booms in South America and the Congo, and in the European conquest of the Americas
and colonization of Africa, Asia and Australia. It was also a driving force behind the transatlantic slave trade, and behind states based on
racial segregation such as the USA in the 19th and early twentieth centuries and South Africa under apartheid.

Practices and ideologies of racism are universally condemned by the United Nations in the Declaration of Human Rights.

Usage of the term and related terms
In the 19th century, many scientists subscribed to the simple belief that human populations are divided into separate races.
This was often used to justify the belief that some races were inferior to others, and that differential treatment was consequently justified.

Such theories are generally termed scientific racism. When the practice of treating certain groups preferentially or denying others rights
or benefits based on racial characteristics is institutionalized, it is termed “institutional racism”.

Nowadays, most biologists, anthropologists, and sociologists reject a simple taxonomy of races in favor of more specific and/or empirically verifiable criteria,
such as geography, ethnicity, or a history of endogamy.[13]

Those who subscribe to the proposition that there are inherent distinctions among people that can be ascribed to membership in a racial group
(and who may use this to justify differential treatment of such groups) tend to describe themselves using the term “racialism”
rather than “racism”, to avoid the negative connotations of the latter word. “Racialism” is assumed to be more
value-neutral terminology, and more appropriate for (scientifically) objective communication or analysis.

However, this distribution of meanings between the two terms used to be precisely inverse at the time they were coined:
The Oxford English Dictionary defined “racialism”as “belief in the superiority of a particular race” and gives a 1907 quote
as the first recorded use. The shortened term “racism” did not appear in the English language until the 1930s.

It was first defined by the OED as By the end of World War II, racism had acquired the same supremacist connotations former associated with racialism:

racism now implied racial discrimination, racial supremacism and a harmful intent. The term “race hatred” [/b]had also been used by
sociologist Frederick Hertz in the late 1920s.)

Modeled on the term “racism”, a large number of pejorative -ism terms have been created to describe various types of prejudice:
sexism, ageism, ableism, speciesism, etc. Related concepts are antisemitism, chauvinism and homophobia
(which in turn has led to terms such as Islamophobia).

Definitions
Racism involves the belief in racial differences, which acts as a justification for non-equal treatment (which some regard as "discrimination")
of members of that race.

The term is commonly used negatively and is usually associated with race-based prejudice, violence, dislike, discrimination, or oppression,
the term can also have varying and contested definitions. Racialism is a related term, sometimes intended to avoid these negative meanings.

Oxford English Dictionary defines racism as the “belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities
specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races” and the expression of such prejudice.

OTHERS define it as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences
produce an inherent superiority or inferiority of a particular racial group, and alternatively that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief.

The Macquarie Dictionary defines racism as: "the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics which determine their respective cultures,
usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate others."... (more)...


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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2012, 02:21:50 PM »

what is the difference between a racist and a bigot?
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2012, 02:26:53 PM »

what is the difference between a racist and a bigot?

Answer
A racist is someone who believes in the superiority of one race over another, or who acts differently (usually negatively) towards a person or a group of people because of their race. An example would be a member of the Ku Klux Klan, who espouse the superiority of the white race.

A bigot is a blinkered, narrow-minded person, usually also very intolerant and unable to see anyone else's point of view. People can be bigoted about things that have nothing to do with race, for example, religion or sexual orientation. A prime example would be Archie Bunker from the old television sitcom "All in the Family."

All racists are bigots, but by no means are all bigots racist. That is, a racist is a bigot against a particular race or every race except for his/hers.

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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2012, 03:01:06 PM »

and one can be prejudiced because of experience as well as what one has heard
from family or friends or read or seen in the media

just sayin...............
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2012, 03:03:25 PM »

Ok so then is it prejudice or fact if its learned?
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2012, 03:04:14 PM »

White,Black,Brown,Red, pok a Dot, we are all for our own color at one degree or another.
 MY opinion and only my opinion  Blacks are the most racist, They can call a white cracker,honky,rice patty etc. on national TV no one says a thing about it.
A white person does not dare make a racial remark about a Black without Jackson, Sharpton making it a national crime.
Black Panthers Hate Whites but all you hear on TV is KKK.Panthers called for a race riot on TV in front of a Police station, they would have thrown a white person in jail.
Could whites riot, no they would go to jail or be shot.
Could a white President call for all whites to vote for him, media would tare him to shreds
Obama called for all blacks to vote for him, has anyone seen it on TV. I saw it on Glenn Beck 1 time.
Whites are loosing rights everyday
Some day after I'm dead Blacks are going to be calling whites Boy and whites will respond yes Massa.
Why do whites let blacks walk all over them? Whites feel guilty
I'm 56 years old never had a slave, do not use N word, I don't care your skin color I will treat you with respect and you treat me same.
 I owe no race anything they owe me nothing.
Whites did buy Blacks but "DAMN IT" the Blacks sold them to the Whites.
If there was ever a race that was owed it is the Indian, Whites took everything they had and wanted to exterminate them.

If things don't change I feel we are headed for a race war.

       This is all just my opinion, Hope I did not offend anyone but I'm sure that is just hopeful thinking.

((((Edit)))
             I do not think majority of whites are racist, it is the minority that gets the attention.

             I do not think majority of Blacks are racist, it is the minority that gets the attention
    Everywhere you look it is becoming minority rule, Black,White, etc.
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2012, 03:05:55 PM »

Racism is exemplified in the fact that 96% of the blacks that voted did so for Obama.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15297.html
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2012, 03:42:49 PM »

what is the difference between a racist and a bigot?

Answer
A racist is someone who believes in the superiority of one race over another, or who acts differently (usually negatively) towards a person or a group of people because of their race. An example would be a member of the Ku Klux Klan, who espouse the superiority of the white race.

A bigot is a blinkered, narrow-minded person, usually also very intolerant and unable to see anyone else's point of view. People can be bigoted about things that have nothing to do with race, for example, religion or sexual orientation. A prime example would be Archie Bunker from the old television sitcom "All in the Family."

All racists are bigots, but by no means are all bigots racist. That is, a racist is a bigot against a particular race or every race except for his/hers.



That's pretty much exactly as I understand the difference.

Furthermore, you can generally not care for people who hail from a certain culture but it doesn't necessarily make you racist. I'll own up to something; Italians generally annoy me. They're loud and tend to think their opinions should carry more weight because they issue them with more volume and with all kinds of hand signals. But I don't think that I'm better than they are. They're just different. As long as they are law abiding citizens then ultimately we don't have a problem.

Oh, and they put tomatoes in EVERYTHING. What kind of lunatic eats New England clam chowder and says;

Vinny: "Hey Tony, this stuff is good but you know what it needs more of?
Tony: "Tomatoes!"
Vinny: "Aaaaah paisan! you read my mind!"
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2012, 03:52:53 PM »

I'm not racist, I just hate everybody.  crazy2
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2012, 04:03:46 PM »

I'm not racist, I just hate everybody.  crazy2

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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2012, 04:28:54 PM »

White,Black,Brown,Red, pok a Dot, we are all for our own color at one degree or another.
 MY opinion and only my opinion  Blacks are the most racist, They can call a white cracker,honky,rice patty etc. on national TV no one says a thing about it.
A white person does not dare make a racial remark about a Black without Jackson, Sharpton making it a national crime.
Black Panthers Hate Whites but all you hear on TV is KKK.Panthers called for a race riot on TV in front of a Police station, they would have thrown a white person in jail.
Could whites riot, no they would go to jail or be shot.
Could a white President call for all whites to vote for him, media would tare him to shreds
Obama called for all blacks to vote for him, has anyone seen it on TV. I saw it on Glenn Beck 1 time.
Whites are loosing rights everyday
Some day after I'm dead Blacks are going to be calling whites Boy and whites will respond yes Massa.
Why do whites let blacks walk all over them? Whites feel guilty
I'm 56 years old never had a slave, do not use N word, I don't care your skin color I will treat you with respect and you treat me same.
 I owe no race anything they owe me nothing.
Whites did buy Blacks but "DAMN IT" the Blacks sold them to the Whites.
If there was ever a race that was owed it is the Indian, Whites took everything they had and wanted to exterminate them.

If things don't change I feel we are headed for a race war.

       This is all just my opinion, Hope I did not offend anyone but I'm sure that is just hopeful thinking.

((((Edit)))
             I do not think majority of whites are racist, it is the minority that gets the attention.

             I do not think majority of Blacks are racist, it is the minority that gets the attention
    Everywhere you look it is becoming minority rule, Black,White, etc.

Wood W, You are spot on target.  Hatred is on both sides and is in the minority I hope. Yes the black panthers can put a million dollar bounty dead or alive and threatened a town and the guberment does nothing!!  Did you ever wonder if those in Waco and Ruby Ridge had been black, do you think the massacre  would have happened?? I think not!
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2012, 04:34:05 PM »

White,Black,Brown,Red, pok a Dot, we are all for our own color at one degree or another.
 MY opinion and only my opinion  Blacks are the most racist, They can call a white cracker,honky,rice patty etc. on national TV no one says a thing about it.
A white person does not dare make a racial remark about a Black without Jackson, Sharpton making it a national crime.
Black Panthers Hate Whites but all you hear on TV is KKK.Panthers called for a race riot on TV in front of a Police station, they would have thrown a white person in jail.
Could whites riot, no they would go to jail or be shot.
Could a white President call for all whites to vote for him, media would tare him to shreds
Obama called for all blacks to vote for him, has anyone seen it on TV. I saw it on Glenn Beck 1 time.
Whites are loosing rights everyday
Some day after I'm dead Blacks are going to be calling whites Boy and whites will respond yes Massa.
Why do whites let blacks walk all over them? Whites feel guilty
I'm 56 years old never had a slave, do not use N word, I don't care your skin color I will treat you with respect and you treat me same.
 I owe no race anything they owe me nothing.
Whites did buy Blacks but "DAMN IT" the Blacks sold them to the Whites.
If there was ever a race that was owed it is the Indian, Whites took everything they had and wanted to exterminate them.

If things don't change I feel we are headed for a race war.

       This is all just my opinion, Hope I did not offend anyone but I'm sure that is just hopeful thinking.

((((Edit)))
             I do not think majority of whites are racist, it is the minority that gets the attention.

             I do not think majority of Blacks are racist, it is the minority that gets the attention
    Everywhere you look it is becoming minority rule, Black,White, etc.

Wood W, You are spot on target.  Hatred is on both sides and is in the minority I hope. Yes the black panthers can put a million dollar bounty dead or alive and threatened a town and the guberment does nothing!!  Did you ever wonder if those in Waco and Ruby Ridge had been black, do you think the massacre  would have happened?? I think not!

You are exactly right Big T,never would have happened. It most likely would still be a stalemate today. cooldude
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2012, 04:47:13 PM »

Paxton and Anvil, Everytime I read one of y'alls post I have to pull out my Damn dictionary. tickedoff 2funny
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2012, 04:47:49 PM »

Some day after I'm dead Blacks are going to be calling whites Boy and whites will respond yes Massa.




Craaazyyyy...
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2012, 05:00:32 PM »

Some day after I'm dead Blacks are going to be calling whites Boy and whites will respond yes Massa.




Craaazyyyy...



Whites are slowly takeing the place of past Blacks
Blacks are slowly taking the place of past Whites
All you have to do is look around
 Fact, there are a lot of things today Blacks can get away with that Whites can not. That is what is craaazyyyy cooldude
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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2012, 05:13:06 PM »

Fact, there are a lot of things today Blacks can get away with that Whites can not. cooldude

Like what? Give me one SIGNIFICANT privilege that black people get over whites?

Look, I understand what you're saying, we are often unfairly demonized. But make no mistake; regardless of who's in the oval office right now WE still run this crap. Nobody's calling anyone "massa" any time soon.
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But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.

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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2012, 05:27:12 PM »

Some day after I'm dead Blacks are going to be calling whites Boy and whites will respond yes Massa.




Craaazyyyy...



Whites are slowly takeing the place of past Blacks
Blacks are slowly taking the place of past Whites
All you have to do is look around
 Fact, there are a lot of things today Blacks can get away with that Whites can not. That is what is craaazyyyy cooldude

No, Whites are not taking the place of past blacks. They had white/ black water fountains,  restaurants, separate everything and also fighting for our country. I'm glad they finally got the civil rights they deserve . We should all be equal, but they now seem a one up manship. It is not an equal playing field now. You are right about the getting away part! cooldude
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2012, 05:31:04 PM »

Fact, there are a lot of things today Blacks can get away with that Whites can not. cooldude


Like what? Give me one SIGNIFICANT privilege that black people get over whites?

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,41744.0.html
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2012, 05:33:05 PM »

And there are lots of things whites can get away with that blacks cannot. Just sayin.   I dont like how some of you guys catagorize people in the black column and the white column. There are bad black people and bad white people. Just because you hear more about the black dosent mean there arent 5 white people doing the same thing. Think about it, most news channels are in major cities, and black people are (if not its close) the majority in big cities.
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2012, 05:34:31 PM »

Fact, there are a lot of things today Blacks can get away with that Whites can not. cooldude

Like what? Give me one SIGNIFICANT privilege that black people get over whites?

Look, I understand what you're saying, we are often unfairly demonized. But make no mistake; regardless of who's in the oval office right now WE still run this crap. Nobody's calling anyone "massa" any time soon.

Black panthers, Now go out and publickly put a bounty on a Blacks head, see if you don't go to jail, Do I need to say more.

I did not say anytime soon but that is the direction.
 I don't think Whites should run this crap and i don't think Blacks should run this crap.
I think everybody should run this crap.
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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2012, 05:53:36 PM »

And there are lots of things whites can get away with that blacks cannot. Just sayin.   I dont like how some of you guys catagorize people in the black column and the white column. There are bad black people and bad white people. Just because you hear more about the black dosent mean there arent 5 white people doing the same thing. Think about it, most news channels are in major cities, and black people are (if not its close) the majority in big cities.

Tell me one thing a white can do that a Black can not do.
I don't care for the Black and White crap but that is the way it is. You can shut your eyes to it but it is still there
There are White racist and there are Black racist and I have a feeling there will always be.
The American Indians have more to complain about than any of us.
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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2012, 06:14:29 PM »

what is the difference between a racist and a bigot?

Answer
A racist is someone who believes in the superiority of one race over another, or who acts differently (usually negatively) towards a person or a group of people because of their race. An example would be a member of the Ku Klux Klan, who espouse the superiority of the white race.

A bigot is a blinkered, narrow-minded person, usually also very intolerant and unable to see anyone else's point of view. People can be bigoted about things that have nothing to do with race, for example, religion or sexual orientation. A prime example would be Archie Bunker from the old television sitcom "All in the Family."

All racists are bigots, but by no means are all bigots racist. That is, a racist is a bigot against a particular race or every race except for his/hers.


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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2012, 06:14:58 PM »

A Bigot is a HD rider that thinks anyone that doesn't ride the same brand is a lesser being.

A Racist is a Valkyrie rider that can't stand that HD Bigot and races up on the HD rider harasses his sorry ass and then passes him like he was standing still.

I race'em and beat'em. Call me a Valkyrie Racist!!!  Grin
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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2012, 06:16:41 PM »

White,Black,Brown,Red, pok a Dot, we are all for our own color at one degree or another.
 MY opinion and only my opinion  Blacks are the most racist, They can call a white cracker,honky,rice patty etc. on national TV no one says a thing about it.
A white person does not dare make a racial remark about a Black without Jackson, Sharpton making it a national crime.
Black Panthers Hate Whites but all you hear on TV is KKK.Panthers called for a race riot on TV in front of a Police station, they would have thrown a white person in jail.
Could whites riot, no they would go to jail or be shot.
Could a white President call for all whites to vote for him, media would tare him to shreds
Obama called for all blacks to vote for him, has anyone seen it on TV. I saw it on Glenn Beck 1 time.
Whites are loosing rights everyday
Some day after I'm dead Blacks are going to be calling whites Boy and whites will respond yes Massa.
Why do whites let blacks walk all over them? Whites feel guilty
I'm 56 years old never had a slave, do not use N word, I don't care your skin color I will treat you with respect and you treat me same.
 I owe no race anything they owe me nothing.
Whites did buy Blacks but "DAMN IT" the Blacks sold them to the Whites.
If there was ever a race that was owed it is the Indian, Whites took everything they had and wanted to exterminate them.

If things don't change I feel we are headed for a race war.

       This is all just my opinion, Hope I did not offend anyone but I'm sure that is just hopeful thinking.

((((Edit)))
             I do not think majority of whites are racist, it is the minority that gets the attention.

             I do not think majority of Blacks are racist, it is the minority that gets the attention
    Everywhere you look it is becoming minority rule, Black,White, etc.

just try putting a "white power" bumper sticker on your car and drive around your 'hood'
see if you don't get beat up by white folks  Cheesy
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« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2012, 06:24:20 PM »

White,Black,Brown,Red, pok a Dot, we are all for our own color at one degree or another.
 MY opinion and only my opinion  Blacks are the most racist, They can call a white cracker,honky,rice patty etc. on national TV no one says a thing about it.
A white person does not dare make a racial remark about a Black without Jackson, Sharpton making it a national crime.
Black Panthers Hate Whites but all you hear on TV is KKK.Panthers called for a race riot on TV in front of a Police station, they would have thrown a white person in jail.
Could whites riot, no they would go to jail or be shot.
Could a white President call for all whites to vote for him, media would tare him to shreds
Obama called for all blacks to vote for him, has anyone seen it on TV. I saw it on Glenn Beck 1 time.
Whites are loosing rights everyday
Some day after I'm dead Blacks are going to be calling whites Boy and whites will respond yes Massa.
Why do whites let blacks walk all over them? Whites feel guilty
I'm 56 years old never had a slave, do not use N word, I don't care your skin color I will treat you with respect and you treat me same.
 I owe no race anything they owe me nothing.
Whites did buy Blacks but "DAMN IT" the Blacks sold them to the Whites.
If there was ever a race that was owed it is the Indian, Whites took everything they had and wanted to exterminate them.

If things don't change I feel we are headed for a race war.

       This is all just my opinion, Hope I did not offend anyone but I'm sure that is just hopeful thinking.

((((Edit)))
             I do not think majority of whites are racist, it is the minority that gets the attention.

             I do not think majority of Blacks are racist, it is the minority that gets the attention
    Everywhere you look it is becoming minority rule, Black,White, etc.

just try putting a "white power" bumper sticker on your car and drive around your 'hood'
see if you don't get beat up by white folks  Cheesy

I would not do that but if I did a White person would not beat me up, on the other hand if I drove thru a Black hood I would get shot.

Are you sure you worded that right?
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« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2012, 06:26:38 PM »

A Bigot is a HD rider that thinks anyone that doesn't ride the same brand is a lesser being.

A Racist is a Valkyrie rider that can't stand that HD Bigot and races up on the HD rider harasses his sorry ass and then passes him like he was standing still.

I race'em and beat'em. Call me a Valkyrie Racist!!!  Grin

That is the best Splaining I have heard yet cooldude
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« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2012, 06:37:44 PM »

I'm not racist, I just hate everybody.  crazy2

I tell people that all the time!!
"I hate everyone equally!"

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« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2012, 08:33:53 PM »

Fact, there are a lot of things today Blacks can get away with that Whites can not. cooldude

Like what? Give me one SIGNIFICANT privilege that black people get over whites?

Look, I understand what you're saying, we are often unfairly demonized. But make no mistake; regardless of who's in the oval office right now WE still run this crap. Nobody's calling anyone "massa" any time soon.

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« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2012, 08:49:07 PM »

... Think about it, most news channels are in major cities, and black people are (if not its close) the majority in big cities.

Wow!  Bad assumptions will make a mess of your logic every time.  News channels serve and draw their revenue form the major metropolitan are, not just the inner city.  The money is still very largely in the hands of European Americans.

I'd be willing to participate in this discussion if it could be maintained on an intellectual plane, but there's already too much horse hockey on the water beginning with the original post to be able to brush away and get to any clean substance.

I read the original diatribe partway down even past where it said "In politics, racism is commonly located on the far right due to the far right’s common association with nativism, racism, and xenophobia."  Says who!?  Must be someone very highly biased or with his head so far up his butt he can't wipe the stuff out of his eyes.  The problem is most racists (and bigots) simply can't recognize it in themselves.

I'll make a couple of observations and a statement and then back away from this thing.

One is that we as a culture are immersed in racism, some accepted and some vilified.  Comment in a mixed group that Blacks have natural rhythm or that white men can't jump and everyone will nod in agreement.   Comment that Caucasians are on the average more intelligent than those of the Negroid race and someone will be reaching for a rope.  I'm not say whether or not I agree with either of those examples, I'm just saying that's the way our culture at large thinks.

I was conversing once with a friend who happens to be a very vocal liberal (or is that progressive?) when the subject came up of certain Indians working in high rise construction.  She commented that the ability to do that was in their genetics and I told her that was a pretty racist perspective for a liberal to take.

The statement is that I'm a little different than most in that I freely confess that I am a racist.  I won't tell you how or why, but that I am, and that I think a lot more of you than are willing to admit are as well, most especially the ones who are most offended by it.

Incidentally on those silly forms that ask us to identify our race and then list several categories, some race and some ethnic, I never identify myself as white.    
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« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2012, 08:51:22 PM »

White,Black,Brown,Red, pok a Dot, we are all for our own color at one degree or another.
 MY opinion and only my opinion  Blacks are the most racist, They can call a white cracker,honky,rice patty etc. on national TV no one says a thing about it.
A white person does not dare make a racial remark about a Black without Jackson, Sharpton making it a national crime.
Black Panthers Hate Whites but all you hear on TV is KKK.Panthers called for a race riot on TV in front of a Police station, they would have thrown a white person in jail.
Could whites riot, no they would go to jail or be shot.
Could a white President call for all whites to vote for him, media would tare him to shreds
Obama called for all blacks to vote for him, has anyone seen it on TV. I saw it on Glenn Beck 1 time.
Whites are loosing rights everyday
Some day after I'm dead Blacks are going to be calling whites Boy and whites will respond yes Massa.
Why do whites let blacks walk all over them? Whites feel guilty
I'm 56 years old never had a slave, do not use N word, I don't care your skin color I will treat you with respect and you treat me same.
 I owe no race anything they owe me nothing.
Whites did buy Blacks but "DAMN IT" the Blacks sold them to the Whites.
If there was ever a race that was owed it is the Indian, Whites took everything they had and wanted to exterminate them.

If things don't change I feel we are headed for a race war.

       This is all just my opinion, Hope I did not offend anyone but I'm sure that is just hopeful thinking.

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             I do not think majority of whites are racist, it is the minority that gets the attention.

             I do not think majority of Blacks are racist, it is the minority that gets the attention
    Everywhere you look it is becoming minority rule, Black,White, etc.

just try putting a "white power" bumper sticker on your car and drive around your 'hood'
see if you don't get beat up by white folks  Cheesy

I would not do that but if I did a White person would not beat me up, on the other hand if I drove thru a Black hood I would get shot.

Are you sure you worded that right?

pretty sure....
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« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2012, 09:26:50 PM »

Gavinsons, I absolutely love the gray/silver paint.
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« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2012, 09:28:29 PM »

A Bigot is a HD rider that thinks anyone that doesn't ride the same brand is a lesser being.

A Racist is a Valkyrie rider that can't stand that HD Bigot and races up on the HD rider harasses his sorry ass and then passes him like he was standing still.

I race'em and beat'em. Call me a Valkyrie Racist!!!  Grin
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« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2012, 04:12:57 AM »

i always thought that RACISIM was the riligon beleaf of the nascar fans................
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« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2012, 07:06:04 AM »

i always thought that RACISIM was the riligon beleaf of the nascar fans................
SAY WHAT???
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« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2012, 09:50:16 AM »




Incidentally on those silly forms that ask us to identify our race and then list several categories, some race and some ethnic, I never identify myself as white.    
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I know you wanted to make a couple of statements and back away from this thing.....but I had to ask...

Is it you don't answer "white" on the silly forms because (1) you have become conditioned to be ashamed of the white heritage, or (2) you are afraid that you will be biased against for your answer, or (3) what?

I basically answer those questions the same way you do.  I was wondering if we had the same reasoning.
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« Reply #35 on: May 06, 2012, 10:44:55 AM »

What is racism?
It's a tool  the "Progressives" use to keep society divided.
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« Reply #36 on: May 06, 2012, 12:26:11 PM »

What is racism?
It's a tool  the "Progressives" use to keep society divided.
I agree Jeff, one tool among many they use. Really doesn't seem all that progressive to me. Actually seems kinda backward.
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« Reply #37 on: May 06, 2012, 01:48:41 PM »

Supposedly this all evolves from the slavery era, and  there was white slaves as well as black.   I fully acknowledge that there was extreme discrimination back in the day, and it was wrong, but it stems from one human owning another.  That human cant help but see himself as superior.   One thing I think of sometime is where would the black race be today if their ancestors werent sold into slavery.   Also as mentioned, it was the black tribes in Africa that rounded up these people and sold them to the slavers.   Instead of payback for what these ancestors went through I think I would be inclined to think that through their sacrifice I am an Admerican with a standard of living thousands of times better than the average bush African.  I think also that hyphenated American is a crock of crap and only serves to keep all the races apart.   We should all be American first, not Japanese American, Irish American, English american, African American, Etc American.  Multi culturism will never work except for the baters and pols that profit from it. It leads to all kinds of breakdowns in society to the detriment of everyone.   That is not to say anyone should not tresure and respect their culture, but should put it behind being an American.  I have the same distain for anyone that professes the entitlement attitude no matter the ethiniticity.
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« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2012, 03:00:11 PM »

For the ones that say they are not racist.
When you bought your house,did you buy in a Black  or White neighborhood
If you buy are you going to look Black or White neighborhood

 Where you live gets to the heart of who you are.
There are no blacks anywhere near me.
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« Reply #39 on: May 06, 2012, 03:51:29 PM »

FIRST, I've got to join Romeo on this one...  Smiley

Gavinsons; That's the most beautiful machine I've seen in a while. I salute you for your good taste
and artistic pride of ownership. It shows!   My helmet comes off to you!
Cheesy laugh coolsmiley
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SECOND:
Before I posted this thread, I read it with keen interest. Lips Sealed

Yes, as with Willow, there are some perspectives expressed in the dissertation, which run contrary to my views. ???

Please, be reminded, that every word in the original post was lifted from Wikipedia, which at times it's more Wiki than pedia.  Roll Eyes
Just the fact that it is in Wikiped does not make it the gospel truth. Wink No sir or madam... Undecided

Quite frankly, I posted it as a starting point for a constructive discussion on the complexities of the subject.
However, every time this issue is discussed in most threads, emotions get on the way of clear thinking and the topic degenerates into a soap box.
crap starts flying all over the place. ???
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A HUMOROUS QUOTE: "... I think everybody should run this crap..."  Humm... then we'll all be full of crap (just kiddin')...?  tickedoff uglystupid2 2funny crazy2

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I can't get over the beauty of Gavinsons' scoot!  cooldude Cool

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