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« on: June 24, 2012, 09:39:45 AM »

I wish to disconnect the red switch.  Can I accomplish this by just clipping the wires to the switch?  Do I need to connect the 2 wires together or leave them separate?  Hoser  ???
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2012, 10:33:20 AM »

once again Chet is the man!
http://www.rattlebars.com/mtz/kill.html
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2012, 07:07:22 AM »

Why would you want to do this?

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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2012, 09:48:55 AM »

i use mine to control a relay for my spot lights. i had no use for the kill switch and never used it.
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2012, 10:00:57 AM »

I use mine every time I stop the Valk.

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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2012, 11:21:46 AM »

I only use mine when I park on a hill when the clutch is in, in gear, and hand on brake. Cause I cant reach the key.
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2012, 12:00:29 PM »

I only use mine when I park on a hill when the clutch is in, in gear, and hand on brake. Cause I cant reach the key.

Easy enough to handle this common situation.

Simply put the kickstand down.

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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2012, 01:51:46 PM »

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I only use mine when I park on a hill when the clutch is in, in gear, and hand on brake. Cause I cant reach the key.
  Same here.
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2012, 02:35:38 PM »

Why would you want to do this?

Marty
To many comedians like to switch it off when it's in a parking lot. May do the Chet's mod and hook my driving lights to it. Or not.  Hoser
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2012, 04:11:56 PM »

If you do like I was taught and do, that's not a problem.  It shouldn't be a problem anyway.  It's visible.  If you can't glance at it and tell whether it's on or off then maybe you need to reconsider riding that day cause your mind is somewhere else.

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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2012, 04:23:01 PM »

I like the idea of using the otherwise pointless switch for something else as well. Good thinking!
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2012, 04:25:27 PM »

Why would you want to do this?

Marty
To many comedians like to switch it off when it's in a parking lot. May do the Chet's mod and hook my driving lights to it. Or not.  Hoser

Kit and I was at a stop light yesterday. I was along her right side and I almost reached over and flipped her kill switch.  2funny
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2012, 07:09:25 PM »

I've been a victim of that a couple times,  I just give them the finger and wait for my chance to do it to them. And no, I don't check it every time I get on it, ain't that big a deal.  Don't always turn my gas on when I get on, but I do shut it off every time I get off.  Hoser  Grin  
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2012, 07:19:20 PM »

If you do like I was taught and do, that's not a problem.  It shouldn't be a problem anyway.  It's visible.  If you can't glance at it and tell whether it's on or off then maybe you need to reconsider riding that day cause your mind is somewhere else.

Marty
You think I'm too distracted to ride if I don't look at the shut down switch?  That's just silly.  Wow.  Shocked  Hoser
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2012, 01:06:53 AM »

i disconected mine cause it was screwing up causing  the bike to shut down. it had left me stranded once. yes you cut the wires  in the switch and solder and heat shrink the joint.(there isnt any room for a butt conector)
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2012, 07:40:20 AM »

If you do like I was taught and do, that's not a problem.  It shouldn't be a problem anyway.  It's visible.  If you can't glance at it and tell whether it's on or off then maybe you need to reconsider riding that day cause your mind is somewhere else.

Marty
You think I'm too distracted to ride if I don't look at the shut down switch?  That's just silly.  Wow.  Shocked  Hoser

I asked why you wanted to do this and you said too many jokers flip your engine switch off.  If you need to take that extreme a measure for something so insignificant then your mind is somewhere else other than riding. 

Let's take a look at something else.  If you have an accident that is deemed to be your fault and your insurance company discovers you disconnected a manufacturer's installed safety device, do you think they will pay or deny your claim?  Also, you probably get sued and lose based on your indifference to others because you disconnected a safety device.  If it's causing you problems, replace it and take the light load off it.

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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2012, 07:49:18 AM »

Why would you want to do this?

Marty
To many comedians like to switch it off when it's in a parking lot. May do the Chet's mod and hook my driving lights to it. Or not.  Hoser

then wire it up to a very loud siren/horn/alarm. scare the crap out of them. bet they won't do it anymore. Evil
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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2012, 07:56:05 AM »

If you do like I was taught and do, that's not a problem.  It shouldn't be a problem anyway.  It's visible.  If you can't glance at it and tell whether it's on or off then maybe you need to reconsider riding that day cause your mind is somewhere else.

Marty
You think I'm too distracted to ride if I don't look at the shut down switch?  That's just silly.  Wow.  Shocked  Hoser

I asked why you wanted to do this and you said too many jokers flip your engine switch off.  If you need to take that extreme a measure for something so insignificant then your mind is somewhere else other than riding. 

Let's take a look at something else.  If you have an accident that is deemed to be your fault and your insurance company discovers you disconnected a manufacturer's installed safety device, do you think they will pay or deny your claim?  Also, you probably get sued and lose based on your indifference to others because you disconnected a safety device.  If it's causing you problems, replace it and take the light load off it.

Marty
Chet's mod does not disable the tip over switch.  Hoser 
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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2012, 08:09:27 AM »

I've got a buddy that races AMA Pro for Vesrah Suzuki.  When he was a rookie in practice runs, he said it was common to be screaming down the track and have another rider zip by, reach over and hit his kill switch... or even tug at this sleeve or pants leg as he went by.  Sheesh!
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« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2012, 08:11:20 AM »

If you do like I was taught and do, that's not a problem.  It shouldn't be a problem anyway.  It's visible.  If you can't glance at it and tell whether it's on or off then maybe you need to reconsider riding that day cause your mind is somewhere else.

Marty
You think I'm too distracted to ride if I don't look at the shut down switch?  That's just silly.  Wow.  Shocked  Hoser

I asked why you wanted to do this and you said too many jokers flip your engine switch off.  If you need to take that extreme a measure for something so insignificant then your mind is somewhere else other than riding. 

Let's take a look at something else.  If you have an accident that is deemed to be your fault and your insurance company discovers you disconnected a manufacturer's installed safety device, do you think they will pay or deny your claim?  Also, you probably get sued and lose based on your indifference to others because you disconnected a safety device.  If it's causing you problems, replace it and take the light load off it.

Marty
Chet's mod does not disable the tip over switch.  Hoser 

We're not talking about the tip over switch.  We're talking about the switch that is to be used if you have a runaway engine.

Marty
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« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2012, 09:20:51 AM »



If your engine runs away, you'll probably tip over eventually...

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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2012, 09:24:53 AM »

We're not talking about the tip over switch.  We're talking about the switch that is to be used if you have a runaway engine.

if you've got a runway engine, just pull in the clutch.... 
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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2012, 10:35:47 AM »

We're not talking about the tip over switch.  We're talking about the switch that is to be used if you have a runaway engine.

if you've got a runway engine, just pull in the clutch.... 

Combine multiple tips here and also put the side stand down.
That'll take care of the engine and maybe even tip you over for good measure.   cooldude

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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2012, 02:50:23 PM »

ok let me get this straight? kill the engine as a safety mesure? ...............ok  crazy2
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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2012, 04:50:36 PM »

Whats a run away engine?
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« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2012, 08:13:11 PM »

We're not talking about the tip over switch.  We're talking about the switch that is to be used if you have a runaway engine.

if you've got a runway engine, just pull in the clutch.... 

That would cause the engine to over rev and possibly blow.

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« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2012, 08:14:54 PM »

Whats a run away engine?

When the throttle gets stuck open and you can't can't control it.

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« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2012, 08:16:20 PM »

ok let me get this straight? kill the engine as a safety mesure? ...............ok  crazy2

If you flip the engine stop switch off on a runaway engine, it kills the power to the ignition system, in effect turning off the engine.

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« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2012, 10:32:33 PM »

There is also the slim possibility of getting pinned under a running bike with gas leaking out the fill hole (or elsewhere).  Here, a kill switch could be a good thing, esp with a damaged body or key underneath the bike, and a defective tip over switch.
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« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2012, 11:53:02 PM »

ok,maybe,it might be possable,it mighta coulda happen............i still dont see the safty issue with it. i bet most of you guys that have your painties in a buntch about the saftey factor of this kill switch, carry a condom in your wallet just incase that naked bigtitted bumb blonde emerges out of the woods while you have stopped for a piss break on the side of the road and she begs you to "take her take her now"
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« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2012, 07:42:34 AM »

A "runaway engine" is not likely with the rev-limiter on the Valkyrie.

Don't see the motor keep running since the tip-over switch will kill the motor.

A bunch of fallacious arguments!

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« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2012, 08:39:08 AM »

How many have reinstalled the tipover switch up side down?   At least a few.  While getting pinned underneath a running bike  (and injured) is very unlikely, I'd sure like my kill switch if I was the one in a million.  With a runaway bike (also very unlikely), you just turn the key off.
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« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2012, 01:10:35 PM »

ok,maybe,it might be possable,it mighta coulda happen............i still dont see the safty issue with it. i bet most of you guys that have your painties in a buntch about the saftey factor of this kill switch, carry a condom in your wallet just incase that naked bigtitted bumb blonde emerges out of the woods while you have stopped for a piss break on the side of the road and she begs you to "take her take her now"
+1, things are getting a little silly here.....Hoser
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« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2012, 01:50:25 PM »

How many have reinstalled the tipover switch up side down?   At least a few.  While getting pinned underneath a running bike  (and injured) is very unlikely, I'd sure like my kill switch if I was the one in a million.  With a runaway bike (also very unlikely), you just turn the key off.

if the bank angle sensor is installed upside down the bike wont start
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« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2012, 02:47:19 PM »

carry a condom in your wallet just incase that naked bigtitted bumb blonde emerges out of the woods while you have stopped for a piss break on the side of the road and she begs you to "take her take her now"

Ummm.... I have one in my shield pouches for just that very reason. But chances are I'd just go lidless.  crazy2
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« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2012, 03:11:05 PM »

How many have reinstalled the tipover switch up side down?   At least a few.  While getting pinned underneath a running bike  (and injured) is very unlikely, I'd sure like my kill switch if I was the one in a million.  With a runaway bike (also very unlikely), you just turn the key off.

if the bank angle sensor is installed upside down the bike wont start

Then I stand corrected sir.
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« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2012, 03:27:49 PM »

I walk along side my bike when I'm putting it up on the lift table and I use the engine to help it up the ramp.  Once the front wheel hits the chock, I use the switch to kill the engine while holding the front brake, then let out the clutch to keep it from rolling back.
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« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2012, 03:38:32 PM »

ok,maybe,it might be possable,it mighta coulda happen............i still dont see the safty issue with it. i bet most of you guys that have your painties in a buntch about the saftey factor of this kill switch, carry a condom in your wallet just incase that naked bigtitted bumb blonde emerges out of the woods while you have stopped for a piss break on the side of the road and she begs you to "take her take her now"
+1, things are getting a little silly here.....Hoser
OMG, it's the thread that won't die!   Cheesy  Grin  Hoser
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« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2012, 03:59:19 PM »

ok,maybe,it might be possable,it mighta coulda happen............i still dont see the safty issue with it. i bet most of you guys that have your painties in a buntch about the saftey factor of this kill switch, carry a condom in your wallet just incase that naked bigtitted bumb blonde emerges out of the woods while you have stopped for a piss break on the side of the road and she begs you to "take her take her now"

That's ridiculous.  Mine's a redhead.  2funny
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« Reply #39 on: June 27, 2012, 06:36:46 PM »

ok,maybe,it might be possable,it mighta coulda happen............i still dont see the safty issue with it. i bet most of you guys that have your painties in a buntch about the saftey factor of this kill switch, carry a condom in your wallet just incase that naked bigtitted bumb blonde emerges out of the woods while you have stopped for a piss break on the side of the road and she begs you to "take her take her now"

You say that as if it's not ever gonna happen.   Personally, I'm bankin' on it.  angel
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