valve stems?

[N0tac0p]

looked on shop talk for them but no go.  so question is OEM?  after market suggestions?  mine are probably 12 years old so should be changed at next tire change?

[T.P.]

Here ya go, From last week

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,54203.0.html

[Ricky-D]

The greatest danger from using OEM wheel valves is, from the fire you will receive, from a lot of the contributors here on this forum.

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[hubcapsc]

The greatest danger from using OEM wheel valves is, from the fire you will receive, from a lot of the contributors here on this forum.

In my opinion being stuck on the side of the road three states from home is worse unless
you have really thin skin 

HDL has these:  http://www.hondadirectlineofshadyside.com/stores/product.asp?pid=44463&str=2&ID=561063324

OEM ones are OK I guess if you change them out with every tire at $12 a pop, and be real careful with them
whenever you add air.

I just changed my front stem (like the HDL one I posted above), it's been on there 30K miles or so...
Once I took it off and looked at it and its gaskets, it looked like it would last another 30K easy.

-Mike

[Willow]

... mine are probably 12 years old so should be changed at next tire change?

Should've been changed out a long time ago.

Patchboy.com

Item # 17-562

[Patrick]

I agree, this was discussed at length last week, and if you are changing tires today then replacing the stem at that time is fine. I'd rather see them replaced before riding it again. I have a feeling that if you grab and give them a little twist you'll hear a 'phssssst'.

[Disco]

Although I've run Patchboys for over 50,000 almost trouble-free miles (didn't get the rear tight enough on original install  ), I prefer the ones from Jake Wilson because they tighten from outside the tire.  Impossible to beat for 2 bux a piece regardless what any pro-oem valve stem cheerleader might suggest.  



90s here: http://www.jakewilson.com/p/52/-/343/753/-/19082/Myers-90%25C2%25B0-Tubeless-Chrome-Valve-Stem?term=valve+stem

They also have straights and 45s here: http://www.jakewilson.com/p/52/-/343/753/-/19082/Myers-90%25C2%25B0-Tubeless-Chrome-Valve-Stem?term=valve+stem   

[old2soon]

You really don't want to lose tire pressure rapidly at speed.  It is NOT worth the hassle to not replace them.  When I replaced mine 2 years ago on my 99 I/S I was surprised at how easily they broke.  And I've been known to push my Phatt Ghurl FAST.  A rapid tire decompression is something i'd much rather avoid.  Those Jake Wilson ones are the ones I run on my Fat Gal.  We are both happier thataway.  RIDE SAFE.

[sandy]

OEM ones are OK I guess if you change them out with every tire at $12 a pop,

My local shop charges $5 for original stems and $10 for the permanent ones.

[hubcapsc]

OEM ones are OK I guess if you change them out with every tire at $12 a pop,

My local shop charges $5 for original stems and $10 for the permanent ones.

Well dang. Last week I claimed they were $18 or $20, and someone said they got
them for $12... I looked at the fiche page at HDL, and they have them for about $9.34...
I give up on knowing how much they cost  ...



-Mike "too much..."

[deadwood]

Coming back from Alaska a couple of years ago I was in some god forsaken part of Montana or Wyoming on a back road literally miles from anywhere. I passed a BMW pulled off on the side of the road. Stopped to see if anything was wrong. He was on his way from Louisiana to Montana. He put a new front tire on before his trip but told them not to change the valve stem.
Guess why he was stopped on the side of the road? Yep. Leaking valve stem and a flat front tire. He went through all his slime but it wouldn’t seal it. I gave him my all my water, sunscreen and a hat (it was noon on a hot day with no shade) and drove 20 miles before I could get a cell phone signal and send him some help.
Please put a new valve stem on at each tire change. I don’t care if it’s made out of rubber, plastic  or cost-a-lotium. Put a new one on.

The greatest danger from using OEM wheel valves is, from the fire you will receive, from a lot of the contributors here on this forum.

In my opinion being stuck on the side of the road three states from home is worse unless
you have really thin skin 

HDL has these:  http://www.hondadirectlineofshadyside.com/stores/product.asp?pid=44463&str=2&ID=561063324

OEM ones are OK I guess if you change them out with every tire at $12 a pop, and be real careful with them
whenever you add air.

I just changed my front stem (like the HDL one I posted above), it's been on there 30K miles or so...
Once I took it off and looked at it and its gaskets, it looked like it would last another 30K easy.

-Mike

[pancho]

This being my first Honda motorcycle, I have to ask... is this the dishonered OEM valve stem??? I have three wheels, and they all have similar type stems. How do they fail?? Does the rubber seal/boot crack and leak? are they run without the support? do they just blow out??         jus wonderin

[Willow]

This being my first Honda motorcycle, I have to ask... is this the dishonered OEM valve stem??? I have three wheels, and they all have similar type stems. How do they fail?? Does the rubber seal/boot crack and leak? are they run without the support? do they just blow out??         jus wonderin

Usually they will crack and leak at the rubber base.  Sometimes the failure is abrupt, sometimes more gradual.  Running them without support will accelerate the deterioration. Wriggling them while inserting air will assist them in their failure.

A fresh OEM valve stem from time to time (maybe every third tire change or every tire change depending on how many months a tire lasts for you) will likely avoid the eventual failure.  Carefully supporting the stem when airing (or checking) the tire may avoid eventual failure.

Neither of those measures is needed with the suggested metal stems as their metal tube passes all the way through the rim to the inside.   

[pancho]

This should have been two posts up...

[Big Ed]

Although I've run Patchboys for over 50,000 almost trouble-free miles (didn't get the rear tight enough on original install  ), I prefer the ones from Jake Wilson because they tighten from outside the tire.  Impossible to beat for 2 bux a piece regardless what any pro-oem valve stem cheerleader might suggest.  



90s here: http://www.jakewilson.com/p/52/-/343/753/-/19082/Myers-90%25C2%25B0-Tubeless-Chrome-Valve-Stem?term=valve+stem

They also have straights and 45s here: http://www.jakewilson.com/p/52/-/343/753/-/19082/Myers-90%25C2%25B0-Tubeless-Chrome-Valve-Stem?term=valve+stem   

Ordered mine today. Thanks Disco..!!

[Denny47]

If you will go up to the search block, upper part of page to the right, type in valve stems, and on March 17, 2013 is another discussion with several sites for the metal stems. Take your pick.....

[Big Ed]

Valve Stem Failure???  Hmmm.... Why risk it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEIDTgceIHI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[pancho]

This should have been two posts up...

 still wondering if this is the OEM valvestem??

[Ricky-D]

Looks like OEM to me.

Good Honda tire valve stem.

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[Farther]

Looks like OEM to me.

Good Honda tire valve stem.

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TROLL!

[salty1]

This is not OEM and better than OEM IMO. 

[old2soon]

This is not OEM and better than OEM IMO. 

  YUP.  + a really HUGE number.  RIDE SAFE.

[Jess from VA]

Clearly an aftermarket stem, but I have never seen anyone use the OE elbow with an aftermarket all-metal stem.

I use these, the elbow is unnecessary and would not fit anyway (they lay flat on the wheel); besides I cut the T's off the wheel to aim mine to the high (right) side.

http://www.motorcycleanchor.com/

[Willow]

Looks like OEM to me.

Good Honda tire valve stem.

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Not sure how you can tell that from the pic. 

Looks to me like it could be about worn out.

Bad advice comes awfully cheap.

[Ricky-D]

That's how I roll.........

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[pancho]

OK,, I got it, I now see that the metal tube does not extend through the rubber seal,, potential problem area.... I will install some with the nut topside before I hit the road.

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

OEM ones are OK I guess if you change them out with every tire at $12 a pop,

My local shop charges $5 for original stems and $10 for the permanent ones.

Well dang. Last week I claimed they were $18 or $20, and someone said they got
them for $12... I looked at the fiche page at HDL, and they have them for about $9.34...
I give up on knowing how much they cost  ...



-Mike "too much..."

Thats my bike in the picture Mike posted I don't remember if we was in Mississippi or Alabama when the OEM stem broke going down the highway ... Air left the tire just like you pulled it out with vice-grips ... I'm just thankful we was going through a small town when it let go and not haulin' ass in some mountain twisties.... I run the Patchboy brand now.

[old2soon]

OEM ones are OK I guess if you change them out with every tire at $12 a pop,

My local shop charges $5 for original stems and $10 for the permanent ones.

Well dang. Last week I claimed they were $18 or $20, and someone said they got
them for $12... I looked at the fiche page at HDL, and they have them for about $9.34...
I give up on knowing how much they cost  ...



-Mike "too much..."

Thats my bike in the picture Mike posted I don't remember if we was in Mississippi or Alabama when the OEM stem broke going down the highway ... Air left the tire just like you pulled it out with vice-grips ... I'm just thankful we was going through a small town when it let go and not haulin' ass in some mountain twisties.... I run the Patchboy brand now.

   When it comes to our Phatt Ghurls AND the way Smokinjoe rides-you really DO NOT need much more of a testimonial.    Nuff said and RIDE SAFE.

[pancho]

         
         "Nuff said and RIDE SAFE."   

There is one more thing,, while there is nothing more convincing than a flat on the FRONT  (the man was with you that day smokinjoe) ,, unless someone beats me to it,, when I change stems over, I will cut one of these OEM valve stems open in the next couple of days and see how the metal tube is secured,, or unsecured,, post a picture....   maybe bring some hardcore unbelivers around.....
               

[john]

                                  http://www.motorcycleanchor.com/

[Big Ed]

         
         "Nuff said and RIDE SAFE."   

There is one more thing,, while there is nothing more convincing than a flat on the FRONT  (the man was with you that day smokinjoe) ,, unless someone beats me to it,, when I change stems over, I will cut one of these OEM valve stems open in the next couple of days and see how the metal tube is secured,, or unsecured,, post a picture....   maybe bring some hardcore unbelivers around.....
               

Yeah..!!  An autopsy..!!

[Disco]

If one has two brain cells that touch each other, this really is simple.

OEM valve stems are sufficient, when replaced regularly and used with the plastic supports.
Metal valve stems are better, last longer, and don't flex or need the plastic supports.  Plus, they are either chrome or anodized.

OEM valve stems can fail catastrophically.
Metal valve stems can fail, but are more likely to fail with leaks as the warning.

OEM valve stems are more expensive than Patchboys or Myers, but cheaper than MotorcycleAnchors.
Patchboys & Myers metal valve stems are less expensive than OEM.

Patchboys & Myers metal valve stems are better and less expensive than OEM valve stems.

[Jess from VA]

When it's a safety issue (which could involve falling down or stranding in bumfok), price should not be a primary consideration.

If really considering price, it's reasonable to conclude OE replacements at every tire change for the life of the bike will cost much more than steel stems.  

I'll bet the Anchor stems last for the rest of my life.

[Disco]

Good points, Jess.  In the long run, even the Anchors are less expensive than the inferior OEM valve stem. 

[pocobubba]

Are Jake Wilsons the best ?

[HayHauler]

I have just purchased another Doran TPMS for the Valk to install while I have her down for body work.   These tire pressure monitoring systems come with metal valve stems.  They have both straight and 90 degree stems included.  I have the ststem on the Wing and really like the peace of mind knowing that my tire pressure is within the parameters I have set, front and back. 
So, my $.01783 is that yes, metal stems are superior to the oem stems. 

Hay
Jimmyt

[Brian]

I received the J/W stems and plan to replace my rear OEM stem on Saturday. While the Anchor ones seem to be a Cadillac valve it still tightens from the inside. 

[Chrisj CMA]

That's how I roll.........

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yeah, I know.  The unfortunate part is...sometimes you give good advise.  Who could ever know when that is?

 

[Farther]

Our friend is a little bi-polar?

[Denny47]

Has anyone else noticed that the originator of this thread has not replied after everyone has given their opinions and websites for metal stems?  Wonder which way he has decided?
 
But, every time I have ever replaced tires on any vehicle, the tire shop always recommends the valve stems be replaced. Do you think maybe if we did this with our mc tires we would not have any problems with the OEM stems. I bought my Tourer with 34k on it and after a few months the stems developed a slow leak, don't know if they were the originals or not. I replaced the front with metal but OEM on rear because they only had one metal and will replace it at next tire change just cause I should be good for many miles without worry. Pain in the butt to have a flat just because of the stem.