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« on: July 20, 2013, 08:30:57 AM » |
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In all the years I've been riding I have NEVER had a set of highway pegs that stayed in place. Just went out to reposition my current set after a slippage and opened up a can of worms. No matter how tight I tightened them I could still move them by hand.  Do highway pegs exist that will actually stay put ???? |
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2013, 08:32:28 AM » |
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Have you looked at Mick O'Pegs?
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2013, 08:37:34 AM » |
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Yep, the Kuryakyn 4050's will do the trick, as they have pins and stops that will hold it all in place. They are adjustable for short or long legs. I have a set on each of my Valks (for years) and none has ever moved a millimeter. Plus, you can get them with different pegs from regular pegs, to the ISO small boards, up to full size boards. http://www.kuryakyn.com/products/974/ergo-cruise-pegshttp://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php?topic=39121.0Pricey, but definitely worth it. You can find them cheaper then the Kuryakyn website prices... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GZQIN2*** Note: they will fit the Interstate as well (websites says it won't fit the I/S), BUT you have to cut off (I used a cut off wheel and then grinder) the small metal "air scoops" at the bottom of the crash bar mount under the valve covers. Isn't as difficult as it sounds. |
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2013, 09:02:30 AM » |
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use a piece of leather (old belt) btwn the bar and the clamp.
some like a piece of an aluminum can.
been posted a few times before.
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Fritz The Cat
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2013, 10:42:50 AM » |
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Yep, the Kuryakyn 4050's will do the trick, as they have pins and stops that will hold it all in place. They are adjustable for short or long legs. I have a set on each of my Valks (for years) and none has ever moved a millimeter. Plus, you can get them with different pegs from regular pegs, to the ISO small boards, up to full size boards. http://www.kuryakyn.com/products/974/ergo-cruise-pegshttp://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php?topic=39121.0Pricey, but definitely worth it. You can find them cheaper then the Kuryakyn website prices... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GZQIN2*** Note: they will fit the Interstate as well (websites says it won't fit the I/S), BUT you have to cut off (I used a cut off wheel and then grinder) the small metal "air scoops" at the bottom of the crash bar mount under the valve covers. Isn't as difficult as it sounds. Those are the ones I have. They're slipping on the crash bar. |
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Fritz The Cat
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2013, 10:44:36 AM » |
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use a piece of leather (old belt) btwn the bar and the clamp.
some like a piece of an aluminum can.
been posted a few times before.
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2013, 11:42:45 AM » |
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use a piece of leather (old belt) btwn the bar and the clamp.
some like a piece of an aluminum can.
been posted a few times before.
Well pardon me. Please put me on ignore if you don't like my posts. WTH! ??? are u reading something I didn't write? ??? |
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2013, 12:37:26 PM » |
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If you really want them to stop turning,,,,,
Drill a hole right thru the clamp and crash bar and turn in a self threading bolt or screw.
Like said before:
"pin" them!
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2013, 02:02:09 PM » |
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Have you looked at Mick O'Pegs?
Not cheap, but once adjusted to your comfort and snugged properly, there is nothing better. |
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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2013, 06:50:07 PM » |
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Certainly look like Helicoils, you will need new ones to get them back or change to Keen-serts
If there is enough meat in the clamps you could drill and tap for lock (grub) screws and also look at using Loctite retaining compound.
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Fritz The Cat
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2013, 07:46:02 PM » |
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Kinda strange that all 4 would be helicoiled.
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2013, 01:49:35 AM » |
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They may have done that to have a better grip in alloy without going to a larger thread size and larger head on the retaining bolts. Not an uncommon practice.
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Fritz The Cat
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2013, 08:38:53 AM » |
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I contacted Kurykan <sp> and they said the springs were not standard issue so I ordered a new clamp and bolts. I hate when I see something like this and don't know if it's right or not.
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2013, 12:23:45 PM » |
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I don't normally get involved with these "tech" questions cuz nobody believes me  But...I have had the 4050's on for many years and they have never slipped. Do you have the little black bracket installed underneath the mount? The bracket has a "V" on one side for Valk applications. It rests against the bottom of the valve cover and there ain't no way that peg will rotate if installed correctly. Hell, you can stand on them if ya want. |
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Fritz The Cat
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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2013, 03:49:10 PM » |
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I suspect the PO was a heavy weight and had to use helicoils because his fat ass overwhelmed even the best engineering.
I have evidence.
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2013, 05:51:41 PM » |
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I don't normally get involved with these "tech" questions cuz nobody believes me But...I have had the 4050's on for many years and they have never slipped. Do you have the little black bracket installed underneath the mount? The bracket has a "V" on one side for Valk applications. It rests against the bottom of the valve cover and there ain't no way that peg will rotate if installed correctly. Hell, you can stand on them if ya want. +1 no way my pegs could rotate. I have Kury 4050s on two different bikes. Hope your issue is resolved with your new Kury parts. |
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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2013, 05:59:41 PM » |
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I suspect the PO was a heavy weight and had to use helicoils because his fat ass overwhelmed even the best engineering.
I have evidence.
 I have the 4050s and love them. Locktite everything once I get em where I want em. |
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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2013, 09:57:03 PM » |
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I have the 4050s and like them. I wouldn't tap a screw, though, because, for one reason or other, I've dropped the bike about once a year. No damage, usually backing out of a bad spot or sudden uncontrolled stop. The thing is, the peg on that side will rotate with the weight of the bike on it, and I just loosen and re-tighten them in proper position.
I shimmed the clamps with strips of 12 gauge sheet steel, and would have to stand on them and bounce to move them. I've tried rubber, leather, PVC pipe, locktight; nothing works like steel on steel on steel.
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2013, 09:39:13 AM » |
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nothing works like steel on steel on steel.
That maybe true but your 4050's probably had a former life as an aluminum Hamm's Beer can. |
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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2013, 03:13:05 PM » |
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Have you looked at Mick O'Pegs?
Not only have I looked at them, on Friday I drove to Michigan and went to their house and bought a set. Nice folks, enjoyed meeting them. The pegs are awesome. Haven't had a chance to use em much yet as I was into a big driveshaft spline lube job yesterday, but their day(s) are coming. Model CC for Valks. Well engineered, high quality product. The pic on their website of the guy in the gynacological position made me laugh but it's true...that's the issue with Kuryakyn pegs. You can see them here in front of the brake pedal. These pics are of the pegs in the up position, held by the spring. On the highway of course, they are down in the lower position.          |
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Fritz The Cat
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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2013, 12:35:50 PM » |
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Not sure I understand the concept. I thought highway pegs were supposed to get you feet up, not down.
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2013, 05:07:04 PM » |
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Actually, my first set puts my feet lower, or I put my heels on them and toes on the second set to get my feet forward. On long rides I find having different positions for my feet and knees is more important than height.
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Fritz The Cat
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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2013, 07:49:07 PM » |
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The new clamp arrived today and guess what? It has the same freaking spring inserts in the bolt holes.  When I removed the bolts, 2 of these spring inserts broke in half and the top half came out with the bolts. As far as I can tell it would be impossible to get the bolts back in and probably just as impossible to replace the springs without the proper machinery. If you ever have to remove your 4050's be aware of this possibility. The clamp and the bolts and washers (Which I didn't really need) came to about 45 bucks. Way cheaper than a new set of pegs but I still can't help but think this is a shitty design. Simple threads without spring inserts would suffice me thinks. |
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2013, 07:36:44 AM » |
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Not if that's aluminum castings.
Thread inserts are better for high
stress in aluminum parts.
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« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2013, 11:44:58 AM » |
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Kuryakyn probably had way too many stripped out holes. As for helicoil inserts...I think they suck. (mainly for this reason...they are prone to coming out with the bolts, and then very hard if not impossible to get back in.)
Put Timeserts into the holes...a lot better.
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Fritz The Cat
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« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2013, 01:49:49 PM » |
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It's not aluminum.
Stripped holes, broken springs, the end result is the same, you gotta replace the clamp. In case of the springs, you'll see the problem when you have to remove the clamp.
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