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Needing to replace my rear brake pads on a 99 tourer, about 35 k mies and considerable city traffic. Started looking to see what is available out there and got confused real quick! What is recommended for brake pads and what should I stay away from?  |
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old2soon
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2014, 10:01:47 PM » |
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When I replaced all my pads I went O E M. Original Honda parts all the way. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2014, 03:44:13 AM » |
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I agree with using the OEMs. They are nice and soft. Most dealers seem to only stock EBCs because they are cheaper. Most in stock EBCs are hard, but, if they have soft sets in stock then they should be OK if you don't want to wait for originals.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2014, 06:51:48 AM » |
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Pretty proud,,,, on da OEM,,, pads...  06435-MZ0-760 PAD SET, RR. $44.61 $32.12 |
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indybobm
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2014, 06:57:26 AM » |
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It is no wonder people are confused about which brake pads to use. You cannot go wrong by using genuine Honda pads but not everyone wants to spend the money when something else might work as well.
Some of the terminology used in describing brake pads:
Kevlar, Semi-Metallic, resin blended from 30% to 50% metal fibers, Sintered, Organic, Carbon Kevlar, Non-sintered / Organic, Kevlar pads made of copper, alloy, tin, graphite and other metallic elements, Copper Kevlar, EBC Double-H sintered copper alloy like original pads, EBC Organic, EBC Semi-Sintered.
Which ones cause more rotor wear? Sintered? Semi-Sintered? Organic? Kevlar, Double H Sintered?
Which ones stop as well?
Personally, I started using SOK Brakes which are ‘KEVLAR brake pads made of copper, alloy, iron, graphite, and other metallic elements’, and have been very happy with them. Very little rotor wear, good stopping ability, etc. and a great price.
When I bought my Valk, the P.O. had put some hard EBC pads on. They sang like a canary every time I applied the brakes. I could not wait to get them off. Plus, there are many ‘types’ of EBC Pads, some that work, some that will not.
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old2soon
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2014, 07:38:09 AM » |
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After reading some of these responses the one place I DO NOT look to save money is my brakes. I'm on a limited budget-read social insecurity-and I try to get good reasonably priced parts for my gal. I was able to put 2 NEW tires on her for less than $200.00. I also do my own work-mostly. Anything doing with the braking system-while I will look for the best price possible-it is NOT the time to go garage saleing.  I've read too many bad reports on after market brake pads on this very forum to go experimenting with my life.  R J hit that nail on the head Honda parts to Honda parts. Mother Honda gets a lot of stuff right-in the case of our brakes-they are right. RIDE SAFE |
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2014, 08:09:37 AM » |
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Organic pads are the easiest on rotors, also shortest life, but to me it is worth it to protect the rotors. Hoser  |
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2014, 08:55:34 AM » |
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Organic pads are the easiest on rotors, also shortest life, but to me it is worth it to protect the rotors. Hoser Thanks for the info. I agree that OEM brakes are probably the best. I also realize that not everyone is going to buy them because of the price. There are good alternatives if you know what to look for. I don't go to Ford to buy brakes for the Ranger, or go to Chrysler to buy brakes for the Neon. |
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2014, 09:36:17 AM » |
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I replaced my '98 Tourer's OEM rotors with EBC at about 90K miles. Now at 170K miles, the EBC rotors seem to be holding up better than the originals.
As for the pads, I tried one set of EBCs and didn't like the noise. Been using Honda pads on the EBC rotors and all is fine. I've been using different pad and rotor brands on lots of vehicles since I can remember with no problem. I'd say the type (organic, semi-metallic, etc.) makes more difference than the brand.
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2014, 10:05:23 AM » |
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Pretty proud,,,, on da OEM,,, pads... 06435-MZ0-760 PAD SET, RR. $44.61 $32.12 = to 2 tanks of 93 octane gas. Go OEM. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2014, 03:22:37 PM » |
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2014, 06:26:44 PM » |
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Thanx to everyone who has responded, this is very helpful. Indybobm hit it on the head, there are a lot of options and i was curious if there has been any improvements or issues. It sounds like I will be searching out OEM pads for my OEM rotors!! Again thanx to everyone, this is great information!
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2014, 06:28:48 PM » |
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It is no wonder people are confused about which brake pads to use. You cannot go wrong by using genuine Honda pads but not everyone wants to spend the money when something else might work as well.
Some of the terminology used in describing brake pads:
Kevlar, Semi-Metallic, resin blended from 30% to 50% metal fibers, Sintered, Organic, Carbon Kevlar, Non-sintered / Organic, Kevlar pads made of copper, alloy, tin, graphite and other metallic elements, Copper Kevlar, EBC Double-H sintered copper alloy like original pads, EBC Organic, EBC Semi-Sintered.
Which ones cause more rotor wear? Sintered? Semi-Sintered? Organic? Kevlar, Double H Sintered?
Which ones stop as well?
Personally, I started using SOK Brakes which are ‘KEVLAR brake pads made of copper, alloy, iron, graphite, and other metallic elements’, and have been very happy with them. Very little rotor wear, good stopping ability, etc. and a great price.
When I bought my Valk, the P.O. had put some hard EBC pads on. They sang like a canary every time I applied the brakes. I could not wait to get them off. Plus, there are many ‘types’ of EBC Pads, some that work, some that will not.
Just wanted to add another one. Asbestos The Honda dealer wanted to clear his shelves and had a real good price. That was a no sale. Probably illegal too. |
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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2014, 09:54:05 AM » |
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Asbestos is one of the primary ingredients in organic brake pads.
There is no reason to not use these kind of pads, and a benefit
is that they are very rotor friendly.
I would suggest to not use them on the rear, because they take a
lot of pressure for the same stopping power as metallic pads.
They (organic pads) are great for the front however, because the power is there
with the dual calipers and large size rotors.
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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2014, 03:20:40 PM » |
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I remember reading stories about asbestos brakes being dangerous. That was a time when auto mechanics would blow the dust out of the brake drums with air pressure and the dust would blow all over the place. Was that a different asbestos? Are they still manufacturing them? Just wondering. |
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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2014, 04:49:38 PM » |
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Nope, it's all the same. Asbestos is an inorganic material.
The EPA has called upon auto manufacturers and brake suppliers to curb their use of asbestos in brake applications for all the reasons and to limit the exposure to humans. You mentioned one good reason for that!
Another element is copper. The EPA is taking the same course for the same reasons and additionally because it is poisonous.
Asbestos and copper are going to stop being used in brake applications.
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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2014, 10:13:01 PM » |
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So I need to replace the rears on my 97 standard, anyone have a favorite source? Sticking with OEM.
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2014, 10:57:34 PM » |
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I get parts from anyone that sells cheap, but my brake parts; pads, O-rings for caliper rebuilds etc are OEM from my local Honda dealership.
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2014, 05:10:45 AM » |
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F6DAVE nailed right on the head my experience. The EBC rotors are good and with their own pads on their own rotors they were OK, but OEM PADS on EBC rotors are still quieter. I've used that combo for last several years and all is still quiet.
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