Trump must really fear Biden...

[Tx Bohemian]

They know the only way they can beat him is to impeach him. But it wont happen even if it did the Trump voters would back Pence IMHO.

This is the BINGO statement.

There seems to be some democrats that have sense, see the writing on the wall, and know impeachment is the only option for no re-election.
Especially with the list of candidates the dems are running!

(How many things have they tried to do this already? and failed)

[Earl43P]

Please take the time to educate yourself on our law enforcement treaty that President Clinton saw fit to sign with the Ukraine government back in 1999. President Donald J Trump certainly read it before he exercised it.

https://www.congress.gov/106/cdoc/tdoc16/CDOC-106tdoc16.pdf

[Gryphon Rider]

They know the only way they can beat him is to impeach him. But it wont happen even if it did the Trump voters would back Pence IMHO.

Assuming Pence would be the Republican presidential nominee if Trump were unable to run again, I would think the democrats would rather run against Trump.  Many non-hard-line conservative and centrist voters would be far more comfortable voting for Pence than Trump.

[Moonshot_1]

Please take the time to educate yourself on our law enforcement treaty that President Clinton saw fit to sign with the Ukraine government back in 1999. President Donald J Trump certainly read it before he exercised it.

https://www.congress.gov/106/cdoc/tdoc16/CDOC-106tdoc16.pdf

Can't make this stuff up. That's a twist.

[Chrisj CMA]

They know the only way they can beat him is to impeach him. But it wont happen even if it did the Trump voters would back Pence IMHO.

Assuming Pence would be the Republican presidential nominee if Trump were unable to run again, I would think the democrats would rather run against Trump.  Many non-hard-line conservative and centrist voters would be far more comfortable voting for Pence than Trump.

Graphon Rider. I think you just don’t get it. There is only one Donald Trump. He (despite the fake news poles) has a huge following and has done a better job than most expected. Our democrats are stupid but not so stupid that they can see they have no chance beating Trump fair and square. They are panicking and are terrified. They know if they don’t pull off something drastic it will be Trump for four more years.

This impeachment garbage has nothing to do with any actual facts. There are no high crimes or misdemeanors just hatred and fear and the fact the democrats know they have nothing to compete with the Trump record and Agenda  

[old2soon]

They know the only way they can beat him is to impeach him. But it wont happen even if it did the Trump voters would back Pence IMHO.

Assuming Pence would be the Republican presidential nominee if Trump were unable to run again, I would think the democrats would rather run against Trump.  Many non-hard-line conservative and centrist voters would be far more comfortable voting for Pence than Trump.

Graphon Rider. I think you just don’t get it. There is only one Donald Trump. He (despite the fake news poles) has a huge following and has done a better job than most expected. Our democrats are stupid but not so stupid that they can see they have no chance beating Trump fair and square. They are panicking and are terrified. They know if they don’t pull off something drastic it will be Trump for four more years.

This impeachment garbage has nothing to do with any actual facts. There are no high crimes or misdemeanors just hatred and fear and the fact the democrats know they have nothing to compete with the Trump record and Agenda  

               Agreed. Them dems are scared shitless that Our Country WILL get back on track to Where it's supposed to be-NOT what them-dems-envision. And what the dems envision IS a horror story for average American should their idea git off the ground. RIDE SAFE.

[Gryphon Rider]

They know the only way they can beat him is to impeach him. But it wont happen even if it did the Trump voters would back Pence IMHO.

Assuming Pence would be the Republican presidential nominee if Trump were unable to run again, I would think the democrats would rather run against Trump.  Many non-hard-line conservative and centrist voters would be far more comfortable voting for Pence than Trump.

Graphon Rider. I think you just don’t get it. There is only one Donald Trump. He (despite the fake news poles) has a huge following and has done a better job than most expected. Our democrats are stupid but not so stupid that they can see they have no chance beating Trump fair and square. They are panicking and are terrified. They know if they don’t pull off something drastic it will be Trump for four more years.

This impeachment garbage has nothing to do with any actual facts. There are no high crimes or misdemeanors just hatred and fear and the fact the democrats know they have nothing to compete with the Trump record and Agenda  

You say I don't get it, but give no information to contradict what I said.  Many people who voted for him last time love him even more now, but that doesn't mean he'll have more votes next time.  How many people who voted for him last time would vote Democrat if Pence's name was on the ballot rather than Trump's?

[Serk]

How many people who voted for him last time would vote Democrat if Pence's name was on the ballot rather than Trump's?

It would be far more difficult for me to vote for Pence than Trump, but seeing as the other side seems to be pushing for the end of life on Earth, I'd  have to suck it up and do it.

[Wizzard]

They know the only way they can beat him is to impeach him. But it wont happen even if it did the Trump voters would back Pence IMHO.

Assuming Pence would be the Republican presidential nominee if Trump were unable to run again, I would think the democrats would rather run against Trump.  Many non-hard-line conservative and centrist voters would be far more comfortable voting for Pence than Trump.

Graphon Rider. I think you just don’t get it. There is only one Donald Trump. He (despite the fake news poles) has a huge following and has done a better job than most expected. Our democrats are stupid but not so stupid that they can see they have no chance beating Trump fair and square. They are panicking and are terrified. They know if they don’t pull off something drastic it will be Trump for four more years.

This impeachment garbage has nothing to do with any actual facts. There are no high crimes or misdemeanors just hatred and fear and the fact the democrats know they have nothing to compete with the Trump record and Agenda  

You say I don't get it, but give no information to contradict what I said.  Many people who voted for him last time love him even more now, but that doesn't mean he'll have more votes next time.  How many people who voted for him last time would vote Democrat if Pence's name was on the ballot rather than Trump's?

I would take Pence any day over anyone the Dem's have. He was gov of my state and did a great job

[Moonshot_1]

I see Pence as a very good man. But he's not a dynamic man. That is the crux of it. Pence doesn't have the charisma to get people out to the polls. He's an establishment politician. The fact that Trump isn't an establishment politician is why he got the votes that he did. Votes that would not have been cast because the voters stayed home had it been any other candidate.

This is why the polls are consistently wrong when Trump is a factor. Without Trump in the mix, the polls are a basically binary exercise. Political left or Political right. With Trump in the mix there is the Political left, Political right but there is a Political disenfranchised group that now become engaged with a candidate that is from outside the establishment.

The polling models don't account for that. They can't.

If the left could come up with a non-establishment candidate, they could have their own "Trump". But the left is all about establishment politics. And a lot of that on the right as well.  

So, if Pence ever is in the position to be President, the polling would then be accurate because we'd be back to a binary format.

Given the current Democrat field, I would feel that, should we have such a situation with Pence being the Presidential candidate for the GOP, he would win. The current Democrat field is pretty weak.

But none of the 2016 GOP contenders ever had a chance against Hillary. All were establishment candidates. Only Trump could have pulled it off and he did because he wasn't.

[Chrisj CMA]

They know the only way they can beat him is to impeach him. But it wont happen even if it did the Trump voters would back Pence IMHO.

Assuming Pence would be the Republican presidential nominee if Trump were unable to run again, I would think the democrats would rather run against Trump.  Many non-hard-line conservative and centrist voters would be far more comfortable voting for Pence than Trump.

Graphon Rider. I think you just don’t get it. There is only one Donald Trump. He (despite the fake news poles) has a huge following and has done a better job than most expected. Our democrats are stupid but not so stupid that they can see they have no chance beating Trump fair and square. They are panicking and are terrified. They know if they don’t pull off something drastic it will be Trump for four more years.

This impeachment garbage has nothing to do with any actual facts. There are no high crimes or misdemeanors just hatred and fear and the fact the democrats know they have nothing to compete with the Trump record and Agenda  

You say I don't get it, but give no information to contradict what I said.  Many people who voted for him last time love him even more now, but that doesn't mean he'll have more votes next time.  How many people who voted for him last time would vote Democrat if Pence's name was on the ballot rather than Trump's?

You assume a lot. I don’t have to prove anything. It’s just my opinion that based on your comments you just don’t get it. It’s ok. It’s not any of your concern really so it doesn’t much matter if you don’t get it.

[Gavin_Sons]

I voted yes just because this survey was so stupid. Stupid questions deserve stupid answers.
Just another scheme to keep Trump from doing his job and continuing making America great. Dems won't be happy until we are all broke and homeless while they sit on their throne eating steaks and lobster. I vow to never vote for one of these lunatics that want all of our rights revoked. The questioner should see how the Dems are considering all the hoops he is jumping through just to get a gun. I like that I can go to my local store and walk out with a new one in less than 30 minutes.

[old2soon]

              With ALL the "stuff" the dems have thrown at POTUS Donald Trump and with no "stuff" stickin my query is-how much Taxpayer Money-our money BTW-dis the doofus section spend on said queries? I for one am cursed sick and tired of Any politicians pissin Our Money away. From another post-a billion dollars every 8 hrs and 20 mins. Lunacy is my take on it fer whatever that's worth. Every 24 hr stretch 3 BILLION of Our Dollars For Something? And I M H O the conversation between 2 Heads of State should remain between those 2 Heads of State. I am so sick of these tempests in a tea pot. Lets all buckle down and get with making America Great Greater AGAIN!!  Or is That Like Too SIMPLE? RIDE SAFE.

[98valk]

Please take the time to educate yourself on our law enforcement treaty that President Clinton saw fit to sign with the Ukraine government back in 1999. President Donald J Trump certainly read it before he exercised it.

https://www.congress.gov/106/cdoc/tdoc16/CDOC-106tdoc16.pdf

nice find   

[98valk]

I voted yes just because this survey was so stupid. Stupid questions deserve stupid answers.
Just another scheme to keep Trump from doing his job and continuing making America great. Dems won't be happy until we are all broke and homeless while they sit on their throne eating steaks and lobster. I vow to never vote for one of these lunatics that want all of our rights revoked. The questioner should see how the Dems are considering all the hoops he is jumping through just to get a gun. I like that I can go to my local store and walk out with a new one in less than 30 minutes.

I use to work with a bleeding heart left wing liberal, who was a pro-gun owner and hunter. we were friends talked and emailed each other all of the time.
anytime I would pressure him how he could vote for democrats who want to take his guns away and right to hunt, he would get extremely mad and tell me to get lost. never understood that.

[Serk]

I voted yes just because this survey was so stupid. Stupid questions deserve stupid answers.
Just another scheme to keep Trump from doing his job and continuing making America great. Dems won't be happy until we are all broke and homeless while they sit on their throne eating steaks and lobster. I vow to never vote for one of these lunatics that want all of our rights revoked. The questioner should see how the Dems are considering all the hoops he is jumping through just to get a gun. I like that I can go to my local store and walk out with a new one in less than 30 minutes.

I use to work with a bleeding heart left wing liberal, who was a pro-gun owner and hunter. we were friends talked and emailed each other all of the time.
anytime I would pressure him how he could vote for democrats who want to take his guns away and right to hunt, he would get extremely mad and tell me to get lost. never understood that.

Cognitive Dissonance :

In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort (psychological stress) experienced by a person who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values.

[Gavin_Sons]

Show me proof the Donald did something to deserve impeachment and I'll be right there with the Democrats. But until then, STFU and worry about something worthwhile. There are several things he does I don't agree with,  like the bumpstock ban, and his stupid Twitter posts.

[98valk]

I voted yes just because this survey was so stupid. Stupid questions deserve stupid answers.
Just another scheme to keep Trump from doing his job and continuing making America great. Dems won't be happy until we are all broke and homeless while they sit on their throne eating steaks and lobster. I vow to never vote for one of these lunatics that want all of our rights revoked. The questioner should see how the Dems are considering all the hoops he is jumping through just to get a gun. I like that I can go to my local store and walk out with a new one in less than 30 minutes.

I use to work with a bleeding heart left wing liberal, who was a pro-gun owner and hunter. we were friends talked and emailed each other all of the time.
anytime I would pressure him how he could vote for democrats who want to take his guns away and right to hunt, he would get extremely mad and tell me to get lost. never understood that.

Cognitive Dissonance :

In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort (psychological stress) experienced by a person who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values.

yep had used that on him. he got really mad. didn't talk to me for a week.
he was big into the stock market, so he voted dems due to the common belief the stocks do much better when they are in power.

[Savago]

The questioner should see how the Dems are considering all the hoops he is jumping through just to get a gun. I like that I can go to my local store and walk out with a new one in less than 30 minutes.

@Gavins: since you asked, I will try to formulate the best I can *why* I personally see what Trump did as a really bad thing.

You see, the primary difference between USA and Brazil is that the first is a nation founded upon the rule of the law and the later is/was a society of privilege. This has historical reasons dating back hundreds of years ago (mostly with how each country was founded), but it reverberates in the way the society works.

The concept of no one been above the law was revolutionary back in the 18th century when the USA fought for its independence (bear in mind in Europe you still had kings and noblemen).

The other thing is the concept of sovereignty: along the history the USA fought to be able to determine its future and of its people. I've seen the opposite happening in Brazil, where foreign powers would constantly kill innovation and development in the country.

I hope that this brief explanation will help to explain why I strongly believe that the law should be applied equally to everyone and why a nation has to protect itself from external threats. Those ideals of freedom and equality are what I've always admired in the USA.

And what Trump has admitted doing (in his own words and on his staff's provided transcripts) in my view goes against both things. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I believe you should win by doing a better job, not by cheating. You should not ask foreign countries to meddle in our elections.

Understand one thing: this makes me both sad and concerned from a constitutional point of view (i.e. does it mean the next president will do whatever him/her wants?), economical (i.e. this turmoil is bad for business) and philosophically (is the USA becoming a nation of privilege instead of a nation of law?).

Concerning gun law: the situation in California is bad, really bad. But what gun lovers got do is to elect better representatives that understand the subject, organize and fight for an improvement. Change is slow but it can happen, this is how democracy works.
 

[Chrisj CMA]

This is clear proof that over saturation in fake far left news ruins ones ability to form a rational opinion. I’m sure this is a primary goal of the sleaze balls on the left in politics and broadcasting. So sad that at least in parts of California it appears to be working.

WOW

You are upset now because you are being told to be upset. You weren’t upset when the previous administration did far worse, lied and cheated resulting in people dying. You weren’t upset because you were being told it was ok. That nothin bad was actually happening.

Do you see a pattern here. You form opinions and strong feelings exactly how people that are not very good people tell you to. That’s what fake news is there for. To mold the minds of the easily moldable

[Pappy!]

Back to the original subject.......
The whistleblower had no firsthand knowledge of the phone call.
The whistleblower stated that there was a state dept. person in on the call. There was no such person.
There are already many holes being blown in the whistleblowers version of what happened.
Some of what he wrote he got from the media. The democrats supplied the media with fake news then this guy referenced it. How convenient!
Adam Schiff literally made stuff up in his "speech". He used a fill in the blanks type of approach and was later called on the carpet for it and had to admit (sort of) that he pretty much made up his story.
The document from the whistleblower was written by someone other than him. A lawyer or someone.
Have no fear....this too will blow up in the face of the Democrats and be revealed for what it is.
I for one would love to see the bank account of the Whistleblower for the last year or so.
I for one would love to see the phone records of little Adam Schiff for the last 6 months or so as well.

[Jess from VA]

How does asking for assistance investigating a possible major crime by Biden an interference in our elections? Biden doesn’t even have his parties nomination but no one wants to know the truth of what his dealings were in having a someone in a foreign government fired? And as has been proposed by others, what would the conversation be if one of Donald’s sons got on Air Force One with his dad and went to China and came back with a $1.5 billion dollar investment in his own company?

Yes indeed.  If someone commits a crime involving a foreign govt, and then runs for office, the president can't ask that govt's leader to look into it?  The chief law enforcement officer of the USA is the Attorney General (chief of DOJ), who is appointed by the president (and all are part of the executive branch of our govt which runs law enforcement, per the constitution).  When foreign leaders talk, they can't discuss crimes that may have been committed by each other's citizens?  Yes they can.  Especially if there are some reasonable grounds to believe a crime was actually committed.  As opposed to making up some story out of whole cloth simply to hurt another candidate.  The president is not above the law, but he has wide powers to exercise at his sole discretion, including matters of law enforcement.  

This is hardly the same thing as Democrat collusion with high US officials using fake foreign dossiers and lying to FISA courts to initiate a very long and expensive Russian collusion investigation which did not exist against Trump (so they could impeach him for it).

Is the Whistleblower simply round two of Russian collusion?   It smells like it.

  

[Gavin_Sons]

The questioner should see how the Dems are considering all the hoops he is jumping through just to get a gun. I like that I can go to my local store and walk out with a new one in less than 30 minutes.

@Gavins: since you asked, I will try to formulate the best I can *why* I personally see what Trump did as a really bad thing.

You see, the primary difference between USA and Brazil is that the first is a nation founded upon the rule of the law and the later is/was a society of privilege. This has historical reasons dating back hundreds of years ago (mostly with how each country was founded), but it reverberates in the way the society works.

The concept of no one been above the law was revolutionary back in the 18th century when the USA fought for its independence (bear in mind in Europe you still had kings and noblemen).

The other thing is the concept of sovereignty: along the history the USA fought to be able to determine its future and of its people. I've seen the opposite happening in Brazil, where foreign powers would constantly kill innovation and development in the country.

I hope that this brief explanation will help to explain why I strongly believe that the law should be applied equally to everyone and why a nation has to protect itself from external threats. Those ideals of freedom and equality are what I've always admired in the USA.

And what Trump has admitted doing (in his own words and on his staff's provided transcripts) in my view goes against both things. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I believe you should win by doing a better job, not by cheating. You should not ask foreign countries to meddle in our elections.

Understand one thing: this makes me both sad and concerned from a constitutional point of view (i.e. does it mean the next president will do whatever him/her wants?), economical (i.e. this turmoil is bad for business) and philosophically (is the USA becoming a nation of privilege instead of a nation of law?).

Concerning gun law: the situation in California is bad, really bad. But what gun lovers got do is to elect better representatives that understand the subject, organize and fight for an improvement. Change is slow but it can happen, this is how democracy works.
 

What has he done? Asked for an investigation into voter fraud like the Dems wanted? But since it involves creepy joe they are against it? I appreciate your knowledge of the US, but you really need to open your eyes if you want this country to stay free and keep your rights. Maybe you dont know what living free really is since you live in the cesspool of California.

[Skinhead]

The questioner should see how the Dems are considering all the hoops he is jumping through just to get a gun. I like that I can go to my local store and walk out with a new one in less than 30 minutes.

@Gavins: since you asked, I will try to formulate the best I can *why* I personally see what Trump did as a really bad thing.

You see, the primary difference between USA and Brazil is that the first is a nation founded upon the rule of the law and the later is/was a society of privilege. This has historical reasons dating back hundreds of years ago (mostly with how each country was founded), but it reverberates in the way the society works.

The concept of no one been above the law was revolutionary back in the 18th century when the USA fought for its independence (bear in mind in Europe you still had kings and noblemen).

The other thing is the concept of sovereignty: along the history the USA fought to be able to determine its future and of its people. I've seen the opposite happening in Brazil, where foreign powers would constantly kill innovation and development in the country.

I hope that this brief explanation will help to explain why I strongly believe that the law should be applied equally to everyone and why a nation has to protect itself from external threats. Those ideals of freedom and equality are what I've always admired in the USA.

And what Trump has admitted doing (in his own words and on his staff's provided transcripts) in my view goes against both things. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I believe you should win by doing a better job, not by cheating. You should not ask foreign countries to meddle in our elections.

Understand one thing: this makes me both sad and concerned from a constitutional point of view (i.e. does it mean the next president will do whatever him/her wants?), economical (i.e. this turmoil is bad for business) and philosophically (is the USA becoming a nation of privilege instead of a nation of law?).

Concerning gun law: the situation in California is bad, really bad. But what gun lovers got do is to elect better representatives that understand the subject, organize and fight for an improvement. Change is slow but it can happen, this is how democracy works.
 

I don't recall you starting a poll during Fast and Furious or when Hillary was caught violating national security laws.  Maybe I just missed it.  Your false outrage is typical of people with your political views.

[hubcapsc]

Wall Street Journal news:

  President Trump sought to use the powers of his office to coerce Ukraine to investigate a political rival,
  and White House officials sought to conceal evidence of the president’s actions, a whistleblower complaint
  alleges.

Wall Street Journal opinion:

  The Trump years have been rough on Democrats’ sensibilities, and their thinking has become
  increasingly addled as a result.

I'm so glad to have finally found a place where news and opinion are in separate columns
and clearly marked, instead of all mixed up and mostly opinion 

-Mike "people on the left get to have their opinion pieces printed there too..."

[Robert]

As the narrative like global warming falls apart we see the OP posts sadly forget many of Obama's misdeeds and remains blind to the fact that the more he is attacked the more Trump is proved correct.  

One that comes to mind about bribes and cash, that is not talk of bribes but actual cash in the millions sent to Iran. How Obama sold out the US to a country that did not keep, had no intentions of keeping and was building nuclear weapons and all the time we were paying for it. How Obama reached a climate deal that allowed the US to send France billions of dollars and pay for the Paris accord.

Biden and his son have enriched themselves at the US expense if anyone cares to search for the facts.

I bring these up with the idea that NO ONE Did anything about these proven scenarios, yet jump on Trump at the fabrication of stories against him. Why do so many not see and condemn the lies and manipulation that is the Dems today? 

Trump with all the bravado and seemingly outlandish stories has proved himself and his stories  while while outlandish were all perfectly true. It only seemed outlandish to the common person since we dont generally think of doing these type of things to each other.





NYTimes 'Outs' Ukraine-Call "Whistleblower" As CIA Officer

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nytimes-outs-ukraine-call-whistleblower-cia-officer


Trump says fate of the nation at stake as Democrats try to 'destroy' the GOP

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/sep/26/donald-trump-says-fate-nation-stake-democrats-try-/

Joe Biden: Trump’s Call Was ‘A Blatant Abuse Of Power’…

Pelosi: Trump ‘Betrayed His Oath of Office’…

Schiff Gets Slapped For Fabricating What Was In Transcript, Backpedals Claiming It Was “Parody”

[Gavin_Sons]

Does the fact that Biden did the very thing they are accusing Trump of when he was VP not concern anyone on the left? He even bragged about it. The double standard runs rampant.

[cookiedough]

How about an investigation into how people making 170k a year retire as millionaires

I could retire a millionaire considering my wifes and my combined annual income is not even 1/2 of 170K

If we made combined 170K per year I would be jumping for joy, that is a TON of money...

I have absolutely NO sympathy for someone making say 50K on up per year and try to tell me they are having a tough time making ends meet.

My youngest aunt when grandparents died got near 90% of the money in their will which as a kid never knew how much it was but had to be over 100K.  My other 10 aunts/uncles at the time only getting say 1 % which caused a HUGE ripple in the family.  My mom being the oldest knew before grandma died first that she wanted to change their will to make it more evenly distributed but she never got around to doing it since she died first at only age 68.  Anyways,  my aunt blew all that money new corvette, new camper, etc. leaving her bankrupt in a few years.  Serves her right.

back on topic,  face it,  Trump is a bully thinking he can do what he wants and Biden an old idiot who is a typical politician where we need someone younger and better in office coming up that is a fact.  Neither are worth a hoot.

[Alpha Dog]

Pappy and Jess above are both spot on.  The President has far and wide powers as outlined in the Article 2 powers in the Constitution and is the Chief Executive of this Country.  And this means he can expose corruption wherever he finds it and use just about any method to do it short of High Crimes.  He has been through 3 years of a Deep State coup attempt which U S Attorney John Durham right now is investigating to root out these treasonous traitors to this Republic.  And now we have another Deep State CIA operative that like the REO song heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend you been messin around has found a willing audience in the lunatic left and their fake news and media operatives.   Since when does the intelligence community get to pass judgement on what is right.  This is a new one  However these whistleblower laws do not pertain to the President as he is not in the intelligence community.  They were put in place for the intelligence community alone.  In short this person is nothing but a spy, possibly set up by Brennan or someone else in the Deep State to spy on the Trump administration.  They have been running this traitorous scheme since 2015 and I can not wait for heads to roll.  Many have been fired already - now it is time to go to jail.

I am not sure if this will show up for anyone interested, if it does go to the 8 minute mark where great constitutional attorneys Soul Wisenberg, John Eastman, and Allen Dershowitz explain the article 2 powers and why the President is not guilty.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6089936368001/?playlist_id=5581981163001#sp=show-clips

[98valk]

Pappy and Jess above are both spot on.  The President has far and wide powers as outlined in the Article 2 powers in the Constitution and is the Chief Executive of this Country.  And this means he can expose corruption wherever he finds it and use just about any method to do it short of High Crimes.  He has been through 3 years of a Deep State coup attempt which U S Attorney John Durham right now is investigating to root out these treasonous traitors to this Republic.  And now we have another Deep State CIA operative that like the REO song heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend you been messin around has found a willing audience in the lunatic left and their fake news and media operatives.   Since when does the intelligence community get to pass judgement on what is right.  This is a new one  However these whistleblower laws do not pertain to the President as he is not in the intelligence community.  They were put in place for the intelligence community alone.  In short this person is nothing but a spy, possibly set up by Brennan or someone else in the Deep State to spy on the Trump administration.  They have been running this traitorous scheme since 2015 and I can not wait for heads to roll.  Many have been fired already - now it is time to go to jail.

I am not sure if this will show up for anyone interested, if it does go to the 8 minute mark where great constitutional attorneys Soul Wisenberg, John Eastman, and Allen Dershowitz explain the article 2 powers and why the President is not guilty.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6089936368001/?playlist_id=5581981163001#sp=show-clips

excellent post. 

[Willow]

...
The concept of no one been above the law was revolutionary back in the 18th century when the USA fought for its independence (bear in mind in Europe you still had kings and noblemen).
...
... Maybe I'm mistaken, but I believe you should win by doing a better job, not by cheating. You should not ask foreign countries to meddle in our elections.

I hope we all agree that no one in the U.S. should be above the law.  That's not the problem with your post, Savago.  The problem is that by posting the poll in the context you used was the implication that the President had violated the law.  Please be more specific regarding what law you believe President Trump violated, or even allegedly violated.

You seem incensed that a foreign country was asked to "meddle" in U.S. elections.  I fail to understand how investigating whether a crime had been committed in that foreign nation is meddling in U.S. politics.  Further, though you are worked up the President Trump asked, asked, another head of state to investigate wrongdoing in his country yet you are unmoved that a U.S. Vice President Biden demanded, yes demanded and threatened with $1.5 billion, that a foreign officeholder be removed?  Perhaps Brazilian history is not just a problem in Brazil but has been brought with you in your behavior to our shores.

Perhaps the question you would have been more accurate to ask would be exactly who should be above or beyond the law?  I leave the discussion of the former U.S. secretary of state alone because time and my typing fingers do not allow for her to be properly addressed.

[Robert]

So are we going to outraged at this also?

Former NSA Chief Of Staff Suggests Whistleblower Had Help From Congressional Democrats In Crafting Complaint

Former CIA officer and National Security Agency Chief of Staff Fred Fleitz is suggesting that the whistleblower accusing President Donald Trump of misconduct had help from lawyers and House Democrats in crafting his complaint.

He suggests the document is just too polished and has too much in common with the Democratic impeachment agenda — and a tweet from California Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff, who is also chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. Fleitz wrote Thursday in an op-ed piece for the New York Post.

He also says the whistleblower’s declassified complaint, made public Thursday, “appears to be written by a law professor.”

“From my experience, such an extremely polished whistleblowing complaint is unheard of.”

Schiff: ‘No’ I Don’t Regret Fabricating Transcript of Trump/Ukraine Call

https://youtu.be/5sNL8t5k3-w


I did not want to start a new post and this is off subject but I have not heard anyone applaud Trump on the UN meeting he had that basically blew away the Globalists. Its really amazing and it just makes you proud, and here are a few highlights.

    Love of our own nations makes the world better for all nations.

    The free world must embrace its national foundations.

 It must not attempt to erase them or replace them. Looking around, and all over this large, magnificent planet, the truth is plain to see: if you want freedom, take pride in your country. If you want democracy, hold on to your sovereignty. And if you want peace, love your nation.
It must not attempt to erase them or replace them.

Globalism exerted a religious pull over past leaders causing them to ignore their own national interests. Those days are over.

Obamas new digs:

I would like to hear what the OP has to say about this also.
Because, I don't hear anyone comment on the Obama's beautiful new 15 million dollar mansion that they could not afford before they became president. So I also included a link to a few pictures to see what it looks like

 
Barack and Michelle Obama buy This Sprawling $15 Million Martha’s Vineyard Estate. The former first family has been renting the compound, which is owned by Boston Celtics owner Wyc Grousbeck, all summer long.

https://robbreport.com/shelter/homes-for-sale/obamas-marthas-vineyard-estate-15-million-2865341/

[Serk]

I found this quite entertaining:

https://www.facebook.com/doug.ibendahl/videos/10157747138948675/

[98valk]

So are we going to outraged at this also?

Former NSA Chief Of Staff Suggests Whistleblower Had Help From Congressional Democrats In Crafting Complaint

Former CIA officer and National Security Agency Chief of Staff Fred Fleitz is suggesting that the whistleblower accusing President Donald Trump of misconduct had help from lawyers and House Democrats in crafting his complaint.

He suggests the document is just too polished and has too much in common with the Democratic impeachment agenda — and a tweet from California Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff, who is also chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. Fleitz wrote Thursday in an op-ed piece for the New York Post.

He also says the whistleblower’s declassified complaint, made public Thursday, “appears to be written by a law professor.”

“From my experience, such an extremely polished whistleblowing complaint is unheard of.”

Schiff: ‘No’ I Don’t Regret Fabricating Transcript of Trump/Ukraine Call

https://youtu.be/5sNL8t5k3-w


I did not want to start a new post and this is off subject but I have not heard anyone applaud Trump on the UN meeting he had that basically blew away the Globalists. Its really amazing and it just makes you proud, and here are a few highlights.

    Love of our own nations makes the world better for all nations.

    The free world must embrace its national foundations.

 It must not attempt to erase them or replace them. Looking around, and all over this large, magnificent planet, the truth is plain to see: if you want freedom, take pride in your country. If you want democracy, hold on to your sovereignty. And if you want peace, love your nation.
It must not attempt to erase them or replace them.

Globalism exerted a religious pull over past leaders causing them to ignore their own national interests. Those days are over.

Obamas new digs:

I would like to hear what the OP has to say about this also.
Because, I don't hear anyone comment on the Obama's beautiful new 15 million dollar mansion that they could not afford before they became president. So I also included a link to a few pictures to see what it looks like

 
Barack and Michelle Obama buy This Sprawling $15 Million Martha’s Vineyard Estate. The former first family has been renting the compound, which is owned by Boston Celtics owner Wyc Grousbeck, all summer long.

https://robbreport.com/shelter/homes-for-sale/obamas-marthas-vineyard-estate-15-million-2865341/

this is Fisa Report 2.0
the democrats are UN Fifth Column members and have sold out American and their souls to the UN Globalist. All one has to do is read some of the UN agendas for one world govt and the dems speeches are the same. Latest is UN 2030 Agenda and where greta and AOC get their 11-12 yrs from, sinc eit was signed in 2015.

[Wizzard]

I found this quite entertaining:

https://www.facebook.com/doug.ibendahl/videos/10157747138948675/

 

[henry 008]

I found this quite entertaining:

https://www.facebook.com/doug.ibendahl/videos/10157747138948675/

    

[Patrick]

Bottom line, I hate to tell the dems that their continued actions are guarantying Mr Trumps re-election. But, I tell them anyway, they don't believe it, so, I've now stopped, I just smile and nod.

[f6john]

Bottom line, I hate to tell the dems that their continued actions are guarantying Mr Trumps re-election. But, I tell them anyway, they don't believe it, so, I've now stopped, I just smile and nod.

Many Democrats have already said in public that impeachment is likely the only way to avoid his reelection and I submit that may still not be enough to keep him out of office. So the Democrats are running scared and the only wild card in the mix is the ofttimes fickle voting public.

[Jess from VA]

Looking at this another way (entirely), I started searching for the total cost of Congress per year: salaries, healthcare, benefits, franking privileges, staff, travel, office space, expense accounts yada.  

First thing you find is no official answer anywhere, and the CBO (congressional budget office) intentionally obfuscates it as much as possible.

One estimate is $131 million per year.  

Another lays it out like this:

Here are the VERY basic costs - for each of the 535 members of Congress as well as the total amounts and total total...

Base Salary for each member $174,000

Office and Staff allowance, per member (avg) $1,353, 205

Expenses, per member $256,574

Total base salary $93,090,000

Total offices and staff (Basic) $573,900,000

Total expenses, basic $137,267,090

Total combined for ALL Congress $804,247,090

Whatever it is, the American people (and our Nation) are being bilked now that all congress does is have a nonviolent civil war all day every day, instead of doing their best to provide good government for the American taxpayers.

If they don't cut it out, they should all be transported to Redskins Stadium (Fed Ex Field) by the US Army, and given a leather jock strap, sandals and a Roman gladius sword, and told to fight to the death.  With 82,000 seats, this would be the best (and most entertaining) thing that the US public could get for their money.  Seats would be free to all taxpaying US Citizens on a first come first serve basis.  We could even let that last 10 survivors go free (with their jock strap and sandals, but not the sword).

Or they could go back to working for the US people and not their political agendas.

This in itself is a much wider, larger, and outrageous scandal than anything that's been discussed in the last several years.

Yeah, lets pay 535 humps the better part of a billion dollars a year to fight and act like children. 



You might think I'm kidding.  

[98valk]

The leftwing kooks in and out of media are making truly insane allegations...
Mark Levin·Friday, September 27, 2019·1 minute
The leftwing kooks in and out of media are making truly insane allegations, which mostly parrot the rogue CIA operative’s political screed. They include: 1. The administration hid the transcript on a classified secure server. Hid it from whom? Uh, the transcript was never supposed to be made public. It wasn’t hidden it was secured. 2. The administration covered up the rogue CIA operative’s political screed by not turning it over to Congress in 14-days. Uh, the document had to be vetted by executive branch lawyers, including White House counsel and DOJ/OLC to determine whether executive privilege would be asserted. Nonetheless, the president ordered it released. Some coverup. 3. The administration broke the law by waiting a short period beyond the 14-days to provide the document. Well, nobody broke the law. The law says “shall” but the “urgent” language doesn’t even apply to a situation like this, where neither the individual mentioned in the document (the President) or the matter mentioned in the document meet the statutory definition.
Meanwhile, the rogue CIA operative is clearly a political partisan (just read his screed), his lawyer is a political partisan, he witnessed absolutely nothing, his screed was written with direction and assistance by lawyers, his screed makes over the top allegations relating to policy, and his identity is concealed (how convenient). Some “courageous” whistleblower!