The Goal Posts Have Been Moved, Again.

[G-Man]

In an interview following one of the fake congressional hearings yesterday, a Democrat Congressman was asked pointedly, (paraphrasing) Since the only thing that comes close to any of the witnesses corroborating any form of quid-pro-quo, bribery, etc., is one witness' PRESUMPTION and another's ASSUMPTION.  Is that enough to go forward with impeachment?  His answer...... If it's a REASONABLE PRESUMPTION / ASSUMPTION ! ! ! ! ! !

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD World !

[Jess from VA]

[MAD6Gun]

 The dems are all saying they knew what Trump meant even if he didn't come out and say it directly. Biden admits to getting a prosecute fired before releasing aid and the dems say that's not what he meant. Shiff makes up what he "thinks" the president said and it's all just ok. This whole farce is nothing but a three ring circus and Shiff is the head clown...

[old2soon]

          I've been on a jury once and attended two other trials. More than once I heard an objection on hearsay evidence and the objection(s) were upheld. Is hearsay evidence Now Legal? Or Just for the dems? Curious minds and likea dat. RIDE SAFE.

[Jess from VA]

Either none, or very little of courtroom rules apply in the Ringling Bros and Barnum & Bailey Circus which is our Congress.  They do use Robert's Rules of Order (as it suits them) as a guide for conducting meetings and making decisions as a group.

Think of Congress like WWE wrestling, it's all blow and no show.  And the party in power does the most blowing.

I will not watch this circus, but the single most egregious violation of the most basic tenet of any fair hearing is when the questioner essentially goes on ad nauseum with a five minute speech (and no particular question for the witness, who sits silently by).  The questioner testifies for the witness, and then at the end of his speech asks the witness for a simple yes or no answer.  That is not truth seeking, it is grandstanding.   You see it in every congressional hearing ever conducted (and especially those that are being televised or carried live on the TV).

 

   

[Willow]

          I've been on a jury once and attended two other trials. More than once I heard an objection on hearsay evidence and the objection(s) were upheld. Is hearsay evidence Now Legal? Or Just for the dems? Curious minds and likea dat. RIDE SAFE.

According to one of our elected members of Congress hearsay is sometimes better than direct evidence.  

[Chrisj CMA]

They called it quid pro quo then bribery. In reality Trump was following US policy by trying to verify no unchecked corruption before committing money and aid to Ukraine. It’s his job. And Joe Biden is the corruption. So he’s also a candidate for president. Trump can’t ignore corruption just because the criminal is now running for office.

He was hardly a threat to Trumps re election anyway

[MAD6Gun]

They called it quid pro quo then bribery. In reality Trump was following US policy by trying to verify no unchecked corruption before committing money and aid to Ukraine. It’s his job. And Joe Biden is the corruption. So he’s also a candidate for president. Trump can’t ignore corruption just because the criminal is now running for office.

He was hardly a threat to Trumps re election anyway

 The Dems had a survey done. People don't understand what "quid pro quo" means but they know what bribery means  so the are now calling it bribery.

[G-Man]

They called it quid pro quo then bribery. In reality Trump was following US policy by trying to verify no unchecked corruption before committing money and aid to Ukraine. It’s his job. And Joe Biden is the corruption. So he’s also a candidate for president. Trump can’t ignore corruption just because the criminal is now running for office.

He was hardly a threat to Trumps re election anyway

 The Dems had a survey done. People don't understand what "quid pro quo" means but they know what bribery means  so the are now calling it bribery.

It was an actual focus group.  The whole thing is strictly to win an election.  To tarnish the incumbants name as much as possible and as often as possible.  That's why there's been a relentless bombardment since he was sworn in.  They're throwing every slice of bologna they can find against the wall and then shooting mustard all over any that hang on for a minute.

[Rams]

They called it quid pro quo then bribery. In reality Trump was following US policy by trying to verify no unchecked corruption before committing money and aid to Ukraine. It’s his job. And Joe Biden is the corruption. So he’s also a candidate for president. Trump can’t ignore corruption just because the criminal is now running for office.

He was hardly a threat to Trumps re election anyway

 The Dems had a survey done. People don't understand what "quid pro quo" means but they know what bribery means  so the are now calling it bribery.

It was an actual focus group.  The whole thing is strictly to win an election.  To tarnish the incumbants name as much as possible and as often as possible.  That's why there's been a relentless bombardment since he was sworn in.  They're throwing every slice of bologna they can find against the wall and then shooting mustard all over any that hang on for a minute.

Fact!   There are Dems who have been calling for DJT impeachment before he even took office.  

Just saw a poll taken by the Washington Examiner, (admittedly, the swing is in the Independent ranks), the poll shows a majority now do not favor impeachment.    Polls can be wrong (as is evidenced by the 2016 election) but, the Dems are making fools of themselves.   Being a Registered Democrat isn't always easy ya know.  

If Charges of Impeachment are sent to the Senate, I sincerely hope the first two witnesses are Joe and Hunter Biden.   I want to know what the heck really happened.   Of course this assumes we get the truth.   

Rams  

[Willow]

It was an actual focus group.  The whole thing is strictly to win an election.  To tarnish the incumbants name as much as possible and as often as possible.  That's why there's been a relentless bombardment since he was sworn in.  They're throwing every slice of bologna they can find against the wall and then shooting mustard all over any that hang on for a minute. 

What's interesting is listening to Representative Schiff expressing how he is appalled by what he accuses Republicans of doing which is precisely what his Democrat colleagues and he have been doing for about three years. 

[f6john]

I have watched or listened to most of the hearings. I thought it was important to know your enemy and without a doubt , most of the Democrats are an enemy of this nation. They have no respect for the laws that this nation is founded upon. They hate Trump, now if they just had real facts to back up their charges!

[..]

From his lips to your ears Liberals. Biden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwYlhDAzp18

From his lips to your ears Liberals. Quigley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bZOTRgEVYU

This Shiffwreck keeps blundering on.

[old2soon]

It was an actual focus group.  The whole thing is strictly to win an election.  To tarnish the incumbants name as much as possible and as often as possible.  That's why there's been a relentless bombardment since he was sworn in.  They're throwing every slice of bologna they can find against the wall and then shooting mustard all over any that hang on for a minute. 

What's interesting is listening to Representative Schiff expressing how he is appalled by what he accuses Republicans of doing which is precisely what his Democrat colleagues and he have been doing for about three years. 

               A rather severe case on the dems part of do NOT do what I do but do what I SAY-or in this case-command. RIDE SAFE.

[JFaje1]

The biggest threat to this country is Donald J Trump. A literal lying  dictator want to be. He does more for Putin then anything for this country. Pulls out of Syria to let Turkey slaughter the Kurds who stood by us to fight Isis, lost over 11,000 troops doing it then he invites Erdogan to the White House and praised him. The military base that Americans built and the airfield they also built now flies the Russian flag. He is a patriot only for the wrong country. His only interest to self enrichment for him and his family. He violates the emoluments clause every day which is an impeachable part of the US Constitution all by itself. If you guy's want investigations, try investigating the crooked Trump family and where they get their millions while serving in the White House.
I know my post will be deleted, but I think representation from the other side is fair. I'm not a democrat,
but an independent, and a American.
John

[Moonshot_1]

The biggest threat to this country is Donald J Trump. A literal lying  dictator want to be. He does more for Putin then anything for this country. Pulls out of Syria to let Turkey slaughter the Kurds who stood by us to fight Isis, lost over 11,000 troops doing it then he invites Erdogan to the White House and praised him. The military base that Americans built and the airfield they also built now flies the Russian flag. He is a patriot only for the wrong country. His only interest to self enrichment for him and his family. He violates the emoluments clause every day which is an impeachable part of the US Constitution all by itself. If you guy's want investigations, try investigating the crooked Trump family and where they get their millions while serving in the White House.
I know my post will be deleted, but I think representation from the other side is fair. I'm not a democrat,
but an independent, and a American.
John

Do you personally know The President and have had dealings with him or is your perspective drawn from the media?

I see a guy who didn't have to, and doesn't have to do this and put up with this.

But he doesn't. I see him going after Political corruption and the corrupt are going insane. Which is expected.

Your post is right out of Don Lemon's handbook out of CNN.

As to Syria. At what point did we declare war on them? How long do we front our soldiers for the Kurds? We got ISIS defeated, their leadership killed. Erdogan is the President of Turkey and A NATO ALLY!

Your perspective is to occupy Syria in a state of perpetual war, to protect a faction within a group that is considered a TERRORIST organization by a NATO ALLY! And diss the ally to boot!

Your tortured construction of the emolument clause is total BS. You even know it.

Somebody is literally lying. It's not Trump.

[Willow]

... He violates the emoluments clause every day which is an impeachable part of the US Constitution all by itself. ...

That's more than a bit of a stretch.

... If you guy's want investigations, try investigating the crooked Trump family and where they get their millions while serving in the White House.
...

I assume by your emphatic claim that you would also be in favor of instigating how the Clintons, Obama, and Joe Biden gained millions while they served.  

[carolinarider09]

The biggest threat to this country is Donald J Trump. A literal lying  dictator want to be. He does more for Putin then anything for this country. Pulls out of Syria to let Turkey slaughter the Kurds who stood by us to fight Isis, lost over 11,000 troops doing it then he invites Erdogan to the White House and praised him. The military base that Americans built and the airfield they also built now flies the Russian flag. He is a patriot only for the wrong country. His only interest to self enrichment for him and his family. He violates the emoluments clause every day which is an impeachable part of the US Constitution all by itself. If you guy's want investigations, try investigating the crooked Trump family and where they get their millions while serving in the White House.
I know my post will be deleted, but I think representation from the other side is fair. I'm not a democrat,
but an independent, and a American.
John

I am an American.  I served this country and the oath I took has no expiration date.  I support what President Trump is doing.  Russia is not a threat.  China is the real threat.  The middle east is a quagmire and always has been.  Our best friend there is Israel.  Europe via the EU and NATO does little in the region.  Its time we took them to task and made them stand up and pay up.  President Trump is doing that.  

Your statement about the emulates clause is laughable.  It shows the desperation of some people to find fault where there is little.  

As for  "the crooked Trump family and where they get their millions while serving in the White House"  Show me your facts.  You can say anything you want.  Its part of the first amendment but just because you say does not make it fact.  

I believe Trump is far better at working with people and standing up to them when needed than any other president.  North Korea is on the ropes. China is screaming and losing money every day.  Turkey and Iran are in a downward economic spiral.  Why because President Trump is working them.  

When has the economy been better?  When have we had jobs come back into the US instead of going overseas?  Who of the past presidents could have done that.  Reagan maybe, certainly not Bush or Obama.  And why has Trump been successful when the last two presidents were not, because he is a business man, not a politician.  

 

[scooperhsd]

Take a good look at those "jobs" - people are taking 2-3 "jobs" because the one is not paying the bills.

Now - if you can show us that he is producing REAL jobs that actually pay a living wage with benefits -

[Willow]

Take a good look at those "jobs" - people are taking 2-3 "jobs" because the one is not paying the bills.
...

What!???  Take a look at the so often used unemployment rate.  There are more jobs because people are working two or three jobs?  How does that make any sense at all?

[..]

The biggest threat to this country is Donald J Trump. A literal lying  dictator want to be. He does more for Putin then anything for this country. Pulls out of Syria to let Turkey slaughter the Kurds who stood by us to fight Isis, lost over 11,000 troops doing it then he invites Erdogan to the White House and praised him. The military base that Americans built and the airfield they also built now flies the Russian flag. He is a patriot only for the wrong country. His only interest to self enrichment for him and his family. He violates the emoluments clause every day which is an impeachable part of the US Constitution all by itself. If you guy's want investigations, try investigating the crooked Trump family and where they get their millions while serving in the White House.
I know my post will be deleted, but I think representation from the other side is fair. I'm not a democrat,
but an independent, and a American.
John

Did I hear you squealing during the 8 years of Obama's presidency?

How much was he worth at the beginning and end?

[scooperhsd]

Take a good look at those "jobs" - people are taking 2-3 "jobs" because the one is not paying the bills.
...

What!???  Take a look at the so often used unemployment rate.  There are more jobs because people are working two or three jobs?  How does that make any sense at all?

If you're looking at ONLY the unemployment rate, you aren't getting the whole picture..

[JFaje1]

Definition of the emoluments clause-https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/22/20925403/emoluments-clause-trump-g7-resort-impeachment-businesses

Plus he puts up foreign leaders in Trump Tower and gets paid for that. If you guy's did a little real research you might find these out.
Today right after the truth came out that Russia not Ukraine meddled in our elections, he went on Fox and still blames Ukraine, and even the Fox news folks just looked away in disbelief. And he calls the career diplomats of all being never Trumpers. They are real patriots that work hard to defend our country, and he has no respect. He still goes after Yovanovitch saying he doesn't like her because she would not hang his picture in the Embassy, another load of crap. But that are the things this guy only thinks of. Even his so called charity organization was a sham used to pay his layers, and to purchase such things like a self portrait of himself for $10,000 dollars and a collectable football helmet. He would make promises to donate and never follow through, he even promised to donate to the veterans, and after more than six months with no check the inquired, and when it went public he was embarrassed to finally pay up. Fack chekers have been keeping records on how often he lies or tells untruths, and the total has gone over 13,400. Real truthful guy.
john

John

[Jess from VA]

With the number (and volume) of never-Trumper resistor whack jobs out there (in and out of government and the media) running around screaming the sky is falling and the world is ending because he's such a bad man, we're damn lucky the good man just doesn't' go on national television, and give them all the finger and go back to life he could have.  Damn lucky.


(Not that Mike Pense is not also a good man)

[Oss]

If you do not reach out to those some consider an enemy it is impossible to proceed to peace
without mutual destruction.  If someone is hell bent on your death, you do not have to do that but in american politics we dont have that (I hope) sick mentality that say the Islamic Fundamentalists have

The Republicans did not try from the moment of his election to impeach the manchurian candidate that was Obama, (though they fairly looked into where he was really born, what he did in school and were stiff armed)

However the Democrat and Socialist pretenders have tried to overthrow an election since the first day
In my book that makes them seditious and treasonous

In spite of everything, and what he is (if you are remotely correct) Mr. Trump has advanced us back from the brink of defeat to strength. He has put millions to work, put more money in our pocket (well he has taken thousands from mine with the cap on property tax deductions), kept us out of global wars and done it without the help of the bought and paid for press by using social media (showing he learned from Obama's playbook)

I used to dislike the man with the TV show but I like him a lot now and had a Trump sign on my lawn last election. Wish he would shut up sometimes but his policies are spot on  Why are you not concerned with the FACT that Biden threatened and is on TV admitting he tried to interfere with aid to help his son steal (what do you call his no show job) or Kerry's son or Pelosi's or for that matter any socialist in congress?  

[Robert]

Definition of the emoluments clause-https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/22/20925403/emoluments-clause-trump-g7-resort-impeachment-businesses

Plus he puts up foreign leaders in Trump Tower and gets paid for that. If you guy's did a little real research you might find these out.
Today right after the truth came out that Russia not Ukraine meddled in our elections, he went on Fox and still blames Ukraine, and even the Fox news folks just looked away in disbelief. And he calls the career diplomats of all being never Trumpers. They are real patriots that work hard to defend our country, and he has no respect. He still goes after Yovanovitch saying he doesn't like her because she would not hang his picture in the Embassy, another load of crap. But that are the things this guy only thinks of. Even his so called charity organization was a sham used to pay his layers, and to purchase such things like a self portrait of himself for $10,000 dollars and a collectable football helmet. He would make promises to donate and never follow through, he even promised to donate to the veterans, and after more than six months with no check the inquired, and when it went public he was embarrassed to finally pay up. Fack chekers have been keeping records on how often he lies or tells untruths, and the total has gone over 13,400. Real truthful guy.
john

John

If the best you have is putting foreign leaders in his hotel and making them pay for it is all you have? Its a business, I would willingly pay for it if I were a foreign leader, and in fact would more than likely welcome it since the service would be better than most hotels.  

Quite honestly why should Trump give a free stay at one of his places to foreign diplomats since they would pay anywhere else? Why should he foot the bill, OH maybe its because every other US leader milks any foreign diplomat of every dime they are worth through deals and scams and since Trump is only doing the hotel your not used to it.

The fact that a past president came into office without any real money to his name and now buys a couple of properties worth millions of dollars is kind of disgusting. Trump does not even take his salary and I wonder who has more motive to corrupt the system a man that came in with nothing or a man that already has it all?  

You can research these link below and respond, most you will not hear in the lamestream media which is why I post them.

This was during a 9/11 ceremony in 2011, as a honor guard respected our American flag,                      

Michelle turns to Hussein & says:

"All this for a damn flag". Look at his expression as he nods in agreement.
Rep. Steven Smith

https://twitter.com/conservativma

I have a problem with many that reflect this posters ideas in that not one bit of outrage or upsetment happens on the left when any issue like this is brought up. Whats good for one is good for the other and if the rule of law is broken its broken for anyone that it applies to.

Like the corruption that the Ukraine is investigating on the Bidens?

Horowitz Reportedly Finds FBI Lawyer Falsified FISA Doc; WaPo Stealth-Deletes Strzok Connection
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/horowitz-finds-evidence-fbi-employee-altered-russia-probe-document

Mueller Lawyer With Anti-Trump Bias Is Identified As Ex-FBI Official Facing FISA Criminal Investigation

Glenn Beck Reveals Bombshell Audio from Ukraine that Repudiates Impeachment Narrative
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TFh1YJynGA

FBI 302’s modified
We knew this a long time ago..
https://twitter.com/kim_sax1/status/1197684058547007488

MPs demand Zelensky, Trump investigate suspicion of U.S.-Ukraine corruption involving $7.4 bln
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625831.html

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/constituents/2017-07-20%20CEG%20to%20DOJ%20%28Ukraine%20DNC%20FARA%29.pdf
Dear Mr. Rosenstein,According to news reports, during the 2016 presidential election, “Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump” and did so by “disseminat[ing]documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter...”1  Ukrainian officials also reportedly “helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers.”
Clinton Foundation, Ukraine & Quid Pro Quo


https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/52561
Agree with Jen.
Also tend to agree with her going before him.  Anything other than her taking quid pro quo of the table, included what would say first, won't take questions about her actions off the table.

The Clinton Foundation has lost $49.6 million since 2016.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/19/clinton-foundation-reports-losses/

John Solomon Drops 28 Uncomfortable Facts Crushing The 'Debunked Conspiracy Theory' Narrative
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/john-solomon-drops-28-uncomfortable-facts-crushing-debunked-conspiracy-theory-narrative

Fact 1: Hunter Biden was hired in May 2014 by Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian natural gas company, at a time when his father Joe Biden was Vice President and overseeing US-Ukraine Policy. Here is the announcement. Hunter Biden’s hiring came just a few short weeks after Joe Biden urged Ukraine to expand natural gas production and use Americans to help. You can read his comments to the Ukrainian prime minister here. Hunter Biden’s firm then began receiving monthly payments totaling $166,666. You can see those payments here.

Fact 2: Burisma was under investigation by British authorities for corruption and soon came under investigation by Ukrainian authorities led by Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.

Fact 3: Vice President Joe Biden and his office were alerted by a December 2015 New York Times article that Shokin’s office was investigating Burisma and that Hunter Biden’s role at the company was undercutting his father’s anticorruption efforts in Ukraine.

SCANDAL: State Dept Official was monitoring U.S. journalists in Ukraine
https://saraacarter.com/scandal-state-dept-official-was-monitoring-u-s-journalists-in-ukraine/

As for the veterans I dont think you are aware of all that he has done to make their lives better.

VA firings spiked after Trump signed the new accountability law last year

Trump signs the largest VA budget ever
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2018/09/21/trump-oks-the-largest-va-budget-ever/

Trump signs landmark legislation to reshape health care for veterans

President Trump signs the executive order to empower Veterans and end Veteran suicide
https://www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/57248/president-trump-signs-the-executive-order-to-empower-veterans-and-end-veteran-suicide/

Executive Order Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

Company co-founded by Nancy Pelosi's son charged with securities fraud
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/17/company-co-founded-nancy-pelosis-son-charged-secur/?

Fiona Hill Testifies Russian Meddling Sought To Sow Discord Between Parties, Criticizes Those Casting Trump Presidency As Illegitimate
https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/21/fiona-hill-testifies-russian-meddling-sow-discord-parties/

[f6john]

Definition of the emoluments clause-https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/22/20925403/emoluments-clause-trump-g7-resort-impeachment-businesses

Plus he puts up foreign leaders in Trump Tower and gets paid for that. If you guy's did a little real research you might find these out.
Today right after the truth came out that Russia not Ukraine meddled in our elections, he went on Fox and still blames Ukraine, and even the Fox news folks just looked away in disbelief. And he calls the career diplomats of all being never Trumpers. They are real patriots that work hard to defend our country, and he has no respect. He still goes after Yovanovitch saying he doesn't like her because she would not hang his picture in the Embassy, another load of crap. But that are the things this guy only thinks of. Even his so called charity organization was a sham used to pay his layers, and to purchase such things like a self portrait of himself for $10,000 dollars and a collectable football helmet. He would make promises to donate and never follow through, he even promised to donate to the veterans, and after more than six months with no check the inquired, and when it went public he was embarrassed to finally pay up. Fack chekers have been keeping records on how often he lies or tells untruths, and the total has gone over 13,400. Real truthful guy.
john

John

Well that’s why we have elections. I’m anxious to see how much of you concerns listed above comes up in the debates once we have a Democratic nominee. I’m sure the country wants to know more about $10k portraits and football helmets.

[Gavin_Sons]

Definition of the emoluments clause-https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/22/20925403/emoluments-clause-trump-g7-resort-impeachment-businesses

Plus he puts up foreign leaders in Trump Tower and gets paid for that. If you guy's did a little real research you might find these out.
Today right after the truth came out that Russia not Ukraine meddled in our elections, he went on Fox and still blames Ukraine, and even the Fox news folks just looked away in disbelief. And he calls the career diplomats of all being never Trumpers. They are real patriots that work hard to defend our country, and he has no respect. He still goes after Yovanovitch saying he doesn't like her because she would not hang his picture in the Embassy, another load of crap. But that are the things this guy only thinks of. Even his so called charity organization was a sham used to pay his layers, and to purchase such things like a self portrait of himself for $10,000 dollars and a collectable football helmet. He would make promises to donate and never follow through, he even promised to donate to the veterans, and after more than six months with no check the inquired, and when it went public he was embarrassed to finally pay up. Fack chekers have been keeping records on how often he lies or tells untruths, and the total has gone over 13,400. Real truthful guy.
john

John

We should all feel lucky to have you as a fellow American. 

[MAD6Gun]

Definition of the emoluments clause-https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/22/20925403/emoluments-clause-trump-g7-resort-impeachment-businesses

Plus he puts up foreign leaders in Trump Tower and gets paid for that. If you guy's did a little real research you might find these out.
Today right after the truth came out that Russia not Ukraine meddled in our elections, he went on Fox and still blames Ukraine, and even the Fox news folks just looked away in disbelief. And he calls the career diplomats of all being never Trumpers. They are real patriots that work hard to defend our country, and he has no respect. He still goes after Yovanovitch saying he doesn't like her because she would not hang his picture in the Embassy, another load of crap. But that are the things this guy only thinks of. Even his so called charity organization was a sham used to pay his layers, and to purchase such things like a self portrait of himself for $10,000 dollars and a collectable football helmet. He would make promises to donate and never follow through, he even promised to donate to the veterans, and after more than six months with no check the inquired, and when it went public he was embarrassed to finally pay up. Fack chekers have been keeping records on how often he lies or tells untruths, and the total has gone over 13,400. Real truthful guy.
john

John

 Wow. 13,400 lies. Did you personally count those or did you get that number from some liberal Trump bashing news site? I'm sure we could find a site that would say the same thing about Obama.

 Trump is the king of hyperbole. You know hyperbole,  it means "exaggerated statement or claims not meant to be taken litterally". Example.."if I've told you once I've told you a MILLION times". That's hyperbole. Obviously you can't tell the difference.

 Trump does it all the time. So is that where you get 13,400 lies?

[scooperhsd]

Trump can't keep his lies straight within the same speech, for god's sake !

Yes, I feel he deserves the title "Liar in Chief". And no - it's not just exaggerations... he flips sides on the lies.

I'd love to see him get hit with that spell that he can only speak the truth, even if only for just 24 hours.

[JimC]

Well that’s why we have elections. I’m anxious to see how much of you concerns listed above comes up in the debates once we have a Democratic nominee. I’m sure the country wants to know more about $10k portraits and football helmets.

Is that a joke?   (question meant for Jfaje1)

Surely it has to be, you are talking about football helmets, and refusing to acknowledge the billions of dollars that Hillary's family, Biden's family, Pelosi's family and others are skimming with back door deals.

Below is a quote that I saw for the first time the other day, and it makes a lot of sense about why one of our more popular presidents was murdered. There is no doubt in my mind why the swamp wanted him killed, and why they want Trump shut up falls right inline with it.  

[3fan4life]

[The emperor has no clothes]

If you do not reach out to those some consider an enemy it is impossible to proceed to peace
without mutual destruction.  If someone is hell bent on your death, you do not have to do that but in american politics we dont have that (I hope) sick mentality that say the Islamic Fundamentalists have

The Republicans did not try from the moment of his election to impeach the manchurian candidate that was Obama, (though they fairly looked into where he was really born, what he did in school and were stiff armed)

However the Democrat and Socialist pretenders have tried to overthrow an election since the first day
In my book that makes them seditious and treasonous

In spite of everything, and what he is (if you are remotely correct) Mr. Trump has advanced us back from the brink of defeat to strength. He has put millions to work, put more money in our pocket (well he has taken thousands from mine with the cap on property tax deductions), kept us out of global wars and done it without the help of the bought and paid for press by using social media (showing he learned from Obama's playbook)

I used to dislike the man with the TV show but I like him a lot now and had a Trump sign on my lawn last election. Wish he would shut up sometimes but his policies are spot on  Why are you not concerned with the FACT that Biden threatened and is on TV admitting he tried to interfere with aid to help his son steal (what do you call his no show job) or Kerry's son or Pelosi's or for that matter any socialist in congress?  

I have done my damndest to stay out of this thread. But, we are friends and I feel I can speak honestly with you. There is much I would dispute in your post. But, I will just throw out one thing. Most, if not all of the people who are testifying about Trump’s dishonesty and deceptions are people he hired. Not Democrats, not never Trumpers, but conservatives and Republicans. To lay this at the feet of the Democrats is just plain wrong. Had Trump not tried to coerce the Ukrainians into digging up dirt on a political opponent with the threat of losing arms for the war with Russia, we wouldn’t be in this mess. Pelosi would not start proceedings with everything brought out in the Mueller report or with him profiting personally from foreign governments. She was dragged into it reluctantly by him. I never thought I would see the day when conservatives would be okay with a candidate receiving help from Russian or Ukrainian governments.

[3fan4life]

If you do not reach out to those some consider an enemy it is impossible to proceed to peace
without mutual destruction.  If someone is hell bent on your death, you do not have to do that but in american politics we dont have that (I hope) sick mentality that say the Islamic Fundamentalists have

The Republicans did not try from the moment of his election to impeach the manchurian candidate that was Obama, (though they fairly looked into where he was really born, what he did in school and were stiff armed)

However the Democrat and Socialist pretenders have tried to overthrow an election since the first day
In my book that makes them seditious and treasonous

In spite of everything, and what he is (if you are remotely correct) Mr. Trump has advanced us back from the brink of defeat to strength. He has put millions to work, put more money in our pocket (well he has taken thousands from mine with the cap on property tax deductions), kept us out of global wars and done it without the help of the bought and paid for press by using social media (showing he learned from Obama's playbook)

I used to dislike the man with the TV show but I like him a lot now and had a Trump sign on my lawn last election. Wish he would shut up sometimes but his policies are spot on  Why are you not concerned with the FACT that Biden threatened and is on TV admitting he tried to interfere with aid to help his son steal (what do you call his no show job) or Kerry's son or Pelosi's or for that matter any socialist in congress?  

I have done my damndest to stay out of this thread. But, we are friends and I feel I can speak honestly with you. There is much I would dispute in your post. But, I will just throw out one thing. Most, if not all of the people who are testifying about Trump’s dishonesty and deceptions are people he hired. Not Democrats, not never Trumpers, but conservatives and Republicans. To lay this at the feet of the Democrats is just plain wrong. Had Trump not tried to coerce the Ukrainians into digging up dirt on a political opponent with the threat of losing arms for the war with Russia, we wouldn’t be in this mess. Pelosi would not start proceedings with everything brought out in the Mueller report or with him profiting personally from foreign governments. She was dragged into it reluctantly by him. I never thought I would see the day when conservatives would be okay with a candidate receiving help from Russian or Ukrainian governments.

So, you're OK with Hunter Biden receiving $50k/mo for a job that he wasn't qualified for and never actually did.

But, you're not OK with President Trump asking for it to be investigated, because Joe Biden is running for President.

Has it not occurred to you that the money Hunter Biden was being paid came from aide $$ ?


President Trump was totally doing his job by asking that this be investigated before he sent any more money to Ukraine.

Furthermore, Nobody has ever said that President Trump asked anyone to lie or make up false evidence, he simply asked them to look for the truth.

Maybe, he should've asked them to come up with a false dossier instead.

Democrats don't seem to have a problem with that.

 

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If you do not reach out to those some consider an enemy it is impossible to proceed to peace
without mutual destruction.  If someone is hell bent on your death, you do not have to do that but in american politics we dont have that (I hope) sick mentality that say the Islamic Fundamentalists have

The Republicans did not try from the moment of his election to impeach the manchurian candidate that was Obama, (though they fairly looked into where he was really born, what he did in school and were stiff armed)

However the Democrat and Socialist pretenders have tried to overthrow an election since the first day
In my book that makes them seditious and treasonous

In spite of everything, and what he is (if you are remotely correct) Mr. Trump has advanced us back from the brink of defeat to strength. He has put millions to work, put more money in our pocket (well he has taken thousands from mine with the cap on property tax deductions), kept us out of global wars and done it without the help of the bought and paid for press by using social media (showing he learned from Obama's playbook)

I used to dislike the man with the TV show but I like him a lot now and had a Trump sign on my lawn last election. Wish he would shut up sometimes but his policies are spot on  Why are you not concerned with the FACT that Biden threatened and is on TV admitting he tried to interfere with aid to help his son steal (what do you call his no show job) or Kerry's son or Pelosi's or for that matter any socialist in congress?  

I have done my damndest to stay out of this thread. But, we are friends and I feel I can speak honestly with you. There is much I would dispute in your post. But, I will just throw out one thing. Most, if not all of the people who are testifying about Trump’s dishonesty and deceptions are people he hired. Not Democrats, not never Trumpers, but conservatives and Republicans. To lay this at the feet of the Democrats is just plain wrong. Had Trump not tried to coerce the Ukrainians into digging up dirt on a political opponent with the threat of losing arms for the war with Russia, we wouldn’t be in this mess. Pelosi would not start proceedings with everything brought out in the Mueller report or with him profiting personally from foreign governments. She was dragged into it reluctantly by him. I never thought I would see the day when conservatives would be okay with a candidate receiving help from Russian or Ukrainian governments.

In case you missed it 

From his lips to your ears. Biden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwYlhDAzp18

[The emperor has no clothes]

If you do not reach out to those some consider an enemy it is impossible to proceed to peace
without mutual destruction.  If someone is hell bent on your death, you do not have to do that but in american politics we dont have that (I hope) sick mentality that say the Islamic Fundamentalists have

The Republicans did not try from the moment of his election to impeach the manchurian candidate that was Obama, (though they fairly looked into where he was really born, what he did in school and were stiff armed)

However the Democrat and Socialist pretenders have tried to overthrow an election since the first day
In my book that makes them seditious and treasonous

In spite of everything, and what he is (if you are remotely correct) Mr. Trump has advanced us back from the brink of defeat to strength. He has put millions to work, put more money in our pocket (well he has taken thousands from mine with the cap on property tax deductions), kept us out of global wars and done it without the help of the bought and paid for press by using social media (showing he learned from Obama's playbook)

I used to dislike the man with the TV show but I like him a lot now and had a Trump sign on my lawn last election. Wish he would shut up sometimes but his policies are spot on  Why are you not concerned with the FACT that Biden threatened and is on TV admitting he tried to interfere with aid to help his son steal (what do you call his no show job) or Kerry's son or Pelosi's or for that matter any socialist in congress?  

I have done my damndest to stay out of this thread. But, we are friends and I feel I can speak honestly with you. There is much I would dispute in your post. But, I will just throw out one thing. Most, if not all of the people who are testifying about Trump’s dishonesty and deceptions are people he hired. Not Democrats, not never Trumpers, but conservatives and Republicans. To lay this at the feet of the Democrats is just plain wrong. Had Trump not tried to coerce the Ukrainians into digging up dirt on a political opponent with the threat of losing arms for the war with Russia, we wouldn’t be in this mess. Pelosi would not start proceedings with everything brought out in the Mueller report or with him profiting personally from foreign governments. She was dragged into it reluctantly by him. I never thought I would see the day when conservatives would be okay with a candidate receiving help from Russian or Ukrainian governments.

So, you're OK with Hunter Biden receiving $50k/mo for a job that he wasn't qualified for and never actually did.

But, you're not OK with President Trump asking for it to be investigated, because Joe Biden is running for President.

Has it not occurred to you that the money Hunter Biden was being paid came from aide $$ ?


President Trump was totally doing his job by asking that this be investigated before he sent any more money to Ukraine.

Furthermore, Nobody has ever said that President Trump asked anyone to lie or make up false evidence, he simply asked them to look for the truth.

Maybe, he should've asked them to come up with a false dossier instead.

Democrats don't seem to have a problem with that.

 

No, I’m not ok with cronyism. But, that is a far cry from foreign governments aiding a candidate in an election.

[..]

If you do not reach out to those some consider an enemy it is impossible to proceed to peace
without mutual destruction.  If someone is hell bent on your death, you do not have to do that but in american politics we dont have that (I hope) sick mentality that say the Islamic Fundamentalists have

The Republicans did not try from the moment of his election to impeach the manchurian candidate that was Obama, (though they fairly looked into where he was really born, what he did in school and were stiff armed)

However the Democrat and Socialist pretenders have tried to overthrow an election since the first day
In my book that makes them seditious and treasonous

In spite of everything, and what he is (if you are remotely correct) Mr. Trump has advanced us back from the brink of defeat to strength. He has put millions to work, put more money in our pocket (well he has taken thousands from mine with the cap on property tax deductions), kept us out of global wars and done it without the help of the bought and paid for press by using social media (showing he learned from Obama's playbook)

I used to dislike the man with the TV show but I like him a lot now and had a Trump sign on my lawn last election. Wish he would shut up sometimes but his policies are spot on  Why are you not concerned with the FACT that Biden threatened and is on TV admitting he tried to interfere with aid to help his son steal (what do you call his no show job) or Kerry's son or Pelosi's or for that matter any socialist in congress?  

I have done my damndest to stay out of this thread. But, we are friends and I feel I can speak honestly with you. There is much I would dispute in your post. But, I will just throw out one thing. Most, if not all of the people who are testifying about Trump’s dishonesty and deceptions are people he hired. Not Democrats, not never Trumpers, but conservatives and Republicans. To lay this at the feet of the Democrats is just plain wrong. Had Trump not tried to coerce the Ukrainians into digging up dirt on a political opponent with the threat of losing arms for the war with Russia, we wouldn’t be in this mess. Pelosi would not start proceedings with everything brought out in the Mueller report or with him profiting personally from foreign governments. She was dragged into it reluctantly by him. I never thought I would see the day when conservatives would be okay with a candidate receiving help from Russian or Ukrainian governments.

Ahem.

Who started the impeachment process?

Oh. Oh yeah. Those pesky people from the Democrat Party. Pelosi was dragged into this by Trump???  

Where in the phone call transcript do YOU see any evidence of Quid Pro Quo?

[..]

If you do not reach out to those some consider an enemy it is impossible to proceed to peace
without mutual destruction.  If someone is hell bent on your death, you do not have to do that but in american politics we dont have that (I hope) sick mentality that say the Islamic Fundamentalists have

The Republicans did not try from the moment of his election to impeach the manchurian candidate that was Obama, (though they fairly looked into where he was really born, what he did in school and were stiff armed)

However the Democrat and Socialist pretenders have tried to overthrow an election since the first day
In my book that makes them seditious and treasonous

In spite of everything, and what he is (if you are remotely correct) Mr. Trump has advanced us back from the brink of defeat to strength. He has put millions to work, put more money in our pocket (well he has taken thousands from mine with the cap on property tax deductions), kept us out of global wars and done it without the help of the bought and paid for press by using social media (showing he learned from Obama's playbook)

I used to dislike the man with the TV show but I like him a lot now and had a Trump sign on my lawn last election. Wish he would shut up sometimes but his policies are spot on  Why are you not concerned with the FACT that Biden threatened and is on TV admitting he tried to interfere with aid to help his son steal (what do you call his no show job) or Kerry's son or Pelosi's or for that matter any socialist in congress?  

I have done my damndest to stay out of this thread. But, we are friends and I feel I can speak honestly with you. There is much I would dispute in your post. But, I will just throw out one thing. Most, if not all of the people who are testifying about Trump’s dishonesty and deceptions are people he hired. Not Democrats, not never Trumpers, but conservatives and Republicans. To lay this at the feet of the Democrats is just plain wrong. Had Trump not tried to coerce the Ukrainians into digging up dirt on a political opponent with the threat of losing arms for the war with Russia, we wouldn’t be in this mess. Pelosi would not start proceedings with everything brought out in the Mueller report or with him profiting personally from foreign governments. She was dragged into it reluctantly by him. I never thought I would see the day when conservatives would be okay with a candidate receiving help from Russian or Ukrainian governments.

So, you're OK with Hunter Biden receiving $50k/mo for a job that he wasn't qualified for and never actually did.

But, you're not OK with President Trump asking for it to be investigated, because Joe Biden is running for President.

Has it not occurred to you that the money Hunter Biden was being paid came from aide $$ ?


President Trump was totally doing his job by asking that this be investigated before he sent any more money to Ukraine.

Furthermore, Nobody has ever said that President Trump asked anyone to lie or make up false evidence, he simply asked them to look for the truth.

Maybe, he should've asked them to come up with a false dossier instead.

Democrats don't seem to have a problem with that.

 

No, I’m not ok with cronyism. But, that is a far cry from foreign governments aiding a candidate in an election.

How would they be aiding a candidate? Tell us some facts.

[Oss]

Yes of course I consider you a friend.  Otherwise we would not have waited for you so long on our ride while you supported the bridge fund

 
Once upon a time the idea that the FRENCH could help us was unthinkable   Then the tea party happened. Those dastardly French were responsible for stirring up the Indian nations in their zeal to stop our expansion.  Actually they helped form the kernels of the 2nd amendment,

Why are you dismissing the fact that any country, even China or Russia
could be approached (at any level) by a commander in chief attempting to ferret out moles in government?

Why are you dismissing the possibility that that a person who is asked to help a new administration may have their own agenda, and loyalty to the previous administration or those corrupting the system?

See the difference between a vice president holding up aid to help his son steal (no other word for it) just like Kerry's kid and Pelosi's kid and a POTUS looking for the smoking gun? Where is your call for Biden's head? After all we have all seen him bragging about criminal act and if he is not a criminal there is no point to ANY of the impeachment but to prevent the true work of congress from being done.

As much as I dislike anything to do with Communism, I would reach out to Putin in a heartbeat if I thought it could help our national security.  Such as giving him a heads up as we were attacking and killing that scumbag a few weeks ago.  You were happy with that outcome as I recall.  Believe it or not Russia and the USA and members of Interpol do share information behind the scenes every day   It is our FBI, (in)justice dept and State that I dont trust at all.  I am coming around now that Barr is at the top to trusting the A.G and always thought our military servicemen, if not the Joint Chiefs supported our Constitution without question

[f6john]

Well that’s why we have elections. I’m anxious to see how much of you concerns listed above comes up in the debates once we have a Democratic nominee. I’m sure the country wants to know more about $10k portraits and football helmets.

Is that a joke?

Surely it has to be, you are talking about football helmets, and refusing to acknowledge the billions of dollars that Hillary's family, Biden's family, Pelosi's family and others are skimming with back door deals.

Below is a quote that I saw for the first time the other day, and it makes a lot of sense about why one of our more popular presidents was murdered. There is no doubt in my mind why the swamp wanted him killed, and why they want Trump shut up falls right inline with it.   

You quoted my post so I’m assuming by your response that you missed my attempt at satire or you thought you were quoting the post I had quoted. I have to do a better job expressing my thoughts!