Coronavirus $hit be getting real

[3fan4life]

You didn't address the three months thing.  That's huge.  The months and counting...

We can agree to disagree on the 45,632 number.  The AIDS chart bolsters Reuters' numbers (1981-1991).

A death equates to death, even those who died in another decade.

So, what exactly is your point here?


You've said that you are in favor of things opening back up.

But, every time  the MSM reports something in an attempt to perpetuate widespread panic you rush to parrot it here.

Do, you believe that we here should be panicked along with the rest of the fine Americans?

No point, just discussion of C19 per the topic title.  If you don't want to discuss it anymore, avoid this topic.

Not going to avoid ANYTHING!

And in my opinion it sounds more like you're intent on preachin' instead of discussin'.

I've tried real hard to give you the benefit of the doubt.

But, seeing as how you seem to have just told me to go F@#k myself, I guess the gloves are now off.

[Valkorado]

I get it now, the numbers are all skewed.  The Hong Kong flu numbers were undercounted, and the C19 numbers are inflated.  Thanks for enlightening me.

Let's just agree to disagree.

[Valkorado]

You didn't address the three months thing.  That's huge.  The months and counting...

We can agree to disagree on the 45,632 number.  The AIDS chart bolsters Reuters' numbers (1981-1991).

A death equates to death, even those who died in another decade.

So, what exactly is your point here?


You've said that you are in favor of things opening back up.

But, every time  the MSM reports something in an attempt to perpetuate widespread panic you rush to parrot it here.

Do, you believe that we here should be panicked along with the rest of the fine Americans?

No point, just discussion of C19 per the topic title.  If you don't want to discuss it anymore, avoid this topic.

Not going to avoid ANYTHING!

And in my opinion it sounds more like you're intent on preachin' instead of discussin'.

I've tried real hard to give you the benefit of the doubt.

But, seeing as how you seem to have just told me to go F@#k myself, I guess the gloves are now off.

Put your gloves back on.

I said no such thing.  I would not say any such thing.  Just like those who say if you don't like political posts, don't read them.   That's what I was saying.

And discussions do involve hearing differing points of view from time to time.  Even if they sometimes piss you off.  

Have I ever preached at you about what to do?   What to wear?  Things are opening up.  Get out there, man!

[3fan4life]

You didn't address the three months thing.  That's huge.  The months and counting...

We can agree to disagree on the 45,632 number.  The AIDS chart bolsters Reuters' numbers (1981-1991).

A death equates to death, even those who died in another decade.

So, what exactly is your point here?


You've said that you are in favor of things opening back up.

But, every time  the MSM reports something in an attempt to perpetuate widespread panic you rush to parrot it here.

Do, you believe that we here should be panicked along with the rest of the fine Americans?

No point, just discussion of C19 per the topic title.  If you don't want to discuss it anymore, avoid this topic.

Not going to avoid ANYTHING!

And in my opinion it sounds more like you're intent on preachin' instead of discussin'.

I've tried real hard to give you the benefit of the doubt.

But, seeing as how you seem to have just told me to go F@#k myself, I guess the gloves are now off.

I said no such thing.  I would not say any such thing.  Just like those who say if you don't like political posts, don't read them.   That's what I was saying.

And discussions do involve hearing differing points of view from time to time.  Even if they sometimes piss you off.  

Have I ever preached at you about what to do?   What to wear?  Things are opening up.  Get out there, man!

I've been out there and I will continue to get out there.

I have been and will continue to do the things that I know will actually protect me from this virus.

I have been and will continue to be cautious when out in public.


I just simply refuse to wring my hands when I should be washing them instead.

[Valkorado]

Me too!  The traffic is thin!  Eureka, we agree.  I'd like to buy you a cold frosty someday, and talk about this sh!t virus being behind us.

[..]

The lunatics are taking over the asylum 


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8300331/San-Antonio-passes-resolution-declaring-term-Chinese-virus-hate-speech.html

[Robert]

On last night's outing we ran into a friend who, every morning, takes her dog for a walk on the beach. As with "Everything Covid" the beaches around here are closed. It's getting nice out and they are starting to relax restrictions so she decided to go out one morning at 7:00am to walk the beach.

Sounds nice huh? A morning stroll on an empty beach...




Well, to here surprise, the police showed up.  Yup, no poop.

The officer that showed up was a friend so the meeting was pleasant. He told her that there were 20 calls about someone on the beach..... go ahead read that again...


20  yup   20.

All those fking Karen's sitting in their house monitoring the beach at 7:00 am...

Live Free or Die Until Your Neighbor Rats You Out.

*Speaking of  Karen's.....


VERY SAD. No wonder the president had to do what he did.

[Valkorado]

Sounds like the ChiComs will pay the piper.  One way or another.


https://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/front-page-2/coronavirus-attack-on-us-worse-than-9-11-trump/


Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office of the White House on Wednesday, President Trump said: “We went through the worst attack we’ve ever had on our country, this is worst attack we’ve ever had.

“This is worse than Pearl Harbour, this is worse than the World Trade Center. There’s never been an attack like this,” he said during a meeting with the nurses, who are on the frontline of the battle against the COVID-19.

“And it should have never happened. Could’ve been stopped at the source. Could’ve been stopped in China. It should’ve been stopped right at the source. And it wasn’t.”

[Serk]

All those fking Karen's sitting in their house monitoring the beach at 7:00 am...

Live Free or Die Until Your Neighbor Rats You Out.

...and thus Operation Waste Their Time 2020 was born...

[Willow]

...
“This is worse than Pearl Harbour, ...

Valkorado, please don't adopt the British habit of inserting u's where they are not at all needed.  It will gain you no respect among Americans.   

[Valkorado]

...
“This is worse than Pearl Harbour, ...

Valkorado, please don't adopt the British habit of inserting u's where they are not at all needed.  It will gain you no respect among Americans.  

 ???  what are u's?

Willow,  I "inserted" nothing.  This was a direct quote from our President.  He is an American I respect; I actually respect him much more than I do you, if that's fathomable.  I tend to agree with him.

My only words from the post were the first sentence.  You seem to have overlooked the fact that I'm American.

[Serk]

...
“This is worse than Pearl Harbour, ...

Valkorado, please don't adopt the British habit of inserting u's where they are not at all needed.  It will gain you no respect among Americans.  

 ???  what are u's?

Willow,  I "inserted" nothing.  This was a direct quote from our President.  He is an American I respect, and I tend to agree with him.

My only words from the post were the first sentence.  You seem to have overlooked the fact that I'm American.

(There is no 'u' in the word harbor or the location Pearl Harbor is I believe what Mr. Willow was referring to.)

[Valkorado]

Thanks, Serk.  He's indeed a wordsmith extraordaniare among his other amazing qualities.
 
It was a copy/paste from the article. 

[carolinarider09]

I have no idea who or what Zero Hedge is, nor do I know software code enough to ascertain if this information is correct (although I have written several programs in “C” but that was many years ago).  However, it is interesting.

From Mark E. Jeftovic, of Axis of Easy

“Computer Model That Locked Down The World Turns Out To Be Sh*tcode”

“It was an Imperial College computer model that forecasted 500K deaths in the UK (and 2.5 million in the US) should policymakers pursue a “herd immunity” approach (a la Sweden), that influenced them to reverse course and go full lockdown instead. The model was produced by a team headed by Neil Ferguson, (who recently resigned his post advising the UK government when it surfaced that he was himself violating lockdown directives by breaking self-isolation for dalliances with a married woman).
The source code behind the model was to be made available to the public, and after numerous delays and excuses in doing so, has finally been posted to GitHub"

“A code review has been undertaken by an anonymous ex-Google software engineer here, who tells us the GitHub repository code has been heavily massaged by Microsoft engineers, and others, in an effort to whip the code into shape to safely expose it to the pubic. Alas, they seem to have failed and numerous flaws and bugs from the original software persist in the released version. Requests for the unedited version of the original code behind the model have gone unanswered”

You may read the article here.  A link to the full review is included in the article.  

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/computer-model-locked-down-world-turns-out-be-shtcode

Fixed the link

[Valkorado]

[Jess from VA]

All those foking Karen's sitting in their house monitoring the beach at 7:00 am...

Live Free or Die Until Your Neighbor Rats You Out.


Especially a woman and her dog (who she obviously lives with) alone.  Unlike some Spring Break madness.

Another (in)famous state culture turned out excellent tattletales and Quislings:


Hey sir, my father says you suck. 

[..]

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2020/05/08/ventura-county-reverses-course-now-says-it-wont-forcibly-quarantine-every-covid-patient-from-families-n389329

[..]

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2020/05/08/why-the-swedish-approach-to-the-pandemic-wouldnt-work-in-the-u-s-n389260

[Valkorado]

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2020/05/08/why-the-swedish-approach-to-the-pandemic-wouldnt-work-in-the-u-s-n389260

Good article Brit.

[..]

'Rona
Murder Hornets

Now this

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8301335/Boston-Dynamics-Spot-robotic-dog-deployed-Singapore-remind-people-safe-distance.html

If you've not watched the "Black Mirror" episode titled "Metalhead" on NETFLIX.....................

[..]

https://news.yahoo.com/rich-infected-poor-covid-19-163232357.html   

[Valkorado]

Meanwhile, in Colorado...

https://www.timescall.com/2020/05/09/longmont-code-enforcement-officers-may-help-enforce-safer-at-home-orders/

Longmont’s staff said, “By coordinating enhanced enforcement with local partners,” Boulder County Public Health “will be in line with other Denver metropolitan-area cities, towns and counties “that have deployed ‘public health inspectors,’” to monitor compliance with health orders, including Denver, Jefferson, Arapahoe, Adams and Douglas counties.

[Robert]

China Asked WHO To Delay Pandemic Announcement, Deny Human-To-Human Transmission: German Intelligence

German intelligence has revealed that Chinese President Xi Jinping asked World Health Organization (WHO) Director-General Tedros Adhanom Thebreyesus to cover up the severity of the coronavirus pandemic in January, according to Der Spiegel.

Wuhan Biolab Where Coronavirus Was Studied Mysteriously Shut Down In October, Report Claims

The earliest suspected case in China may have been observed as early as November, some scientists believe, though others doubt the theory. But the report obtained by NBC News cites cellphone activity data showing a complete shutdown of a high-security section of the lab for 2.5 weeks between Oct. 7 and Oct. 24.

[Serk]

Once again showing why we should totally shut off all support to the W.H.O. they announced they're siding with China (Again) and are against shutting down the farmer's markets from hell wet markets:

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/496882-who-says-animal-markets-like-in-wuhan-should-not-be-shut-down

[Valkorado]

Once again showing why we should totally shut off all support to the W.H.O. they announced they're siding with China (Again) and are against shutting down the farmer's markets from hell wet markets:

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/496882-who-says-animal-markets-like-in-wuhan-should-not-be-shut-down

Tedros loves him some bat stew.   

Seriously, the've tried before. The voracious carnivores just take their plethora of wild and domesticated "goodies" underground.

https://theconversation.com/why-shutting-down-chinese-wet-markets-could-be-a-terrible-mistake-130625

"...the abolition of “wet markets” is also likely to lead to an explosion of an uncontrollable black market, as it did when such a ban was attempted in 2003, in response to SARS, as well as in 2013-14, in response to avian influenza H7N9".

[mello dude]

https://graphics.reuters.com/HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS-USA/0100B5K8423/index.html

Data ...State by state, county by county in the US..

[carolinarider09]

Deaths reported in reference above:  78,644

Note in reference above.

"Note: Beginning on April 14, the charts include probable deaths reported by New York City. These deaths and cases include individuals who had not been tested for the virus but whose cause of death was listed as COVID-19 on their death certificate and who had died since March 11."

CDC Reference A - 47,128 COVID-19 Deaths as of May 8th, 2020
CDC Reference B - 77,034 COVID-19 Deathsas of May 9th, 2020

Reference A:  https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

Reference B: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

[Valkorado]

There's just been a few in the US.  Less globally, I think a couple more total, but one of those was actually pneumonia.    

[Robert]

Who wants to be tagged like animals? Only vaccine information now but what about banking, criminal records, health and any other record deemed necessary and read by a smart phone.

Weekly Update --- Next in Coronavirus Tyranny: Forced Vaccinations and 'Digital Certificates'

 RonPaulLibertyReport

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=hvOy0cYt2EQ&feature=emb_logo



AG Barr vs Bill Gates - Digital Vaccine Certificates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=71&v=-eF0oanIsRQ&feature=emb_logo

Bill Gates says proof of COVID-19 vaccination will be mandatory

Technology has moved along, under Bill Gates' own development, to a mere scalable implant in the form of a tattoo that is something like a bar code.

(Covid 19 or any other suitable crisis to be used to justify everyone have a tattoo or digital patch.)

The digital ID doesn't need to contain any information other than your ID number because all your financial data can be stored on the cloud as well as your health data -- whatever part you want (or are required) to make publicly available upon the scanning of your biometric ID. Thus, the actual ID can be minuscule and simple.

At the time, the possibility of such global accessibility didn't exist. There was no network of storage and high-speed wireless transmissions widespread enough to be almost ubiquitous as there now is. (5G allows digital id read by smart phone to be sent immediatly)

Did anyone think digital currency like Bitcoin was anything else other than the trial run for a cashless society? It was not the liberator and equalizer thought but the trial run for enslavement.

[98valk]

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/lawrence-solomon/death-by-influenza_b_4661442.html

The CDC's decision to play up flu deaths dates back a decade, when it realized the public wasn't following its advice on the flu vaccine.

The CDC unabashedly decided to create a mass market for the flu vaccine by enlisting the media into panicking the public. An obedient and unquestioning media obliged by hyping the numbers, and 10 years later it is obliging still.

According to the National Vital Statistics System in the U.S., for example, annual flu deaths in 2010 amounted to just 500 per year -- fewer than deaths from ulcers (2,977), hernias (1,832) and pregnancy and childbirth (825), and a far cry from the big killers such as heart disease (597,689) and cancers (574,743). The story is similar in Canada, where unlikely killers likewise dwarf Statistics Canada's count of flu deaths.

Even that 500 figure for the U.S. could be too high, according to analyses in authoritative journals such as the American Journal of Public Health and the British Medical Journal. Only about 15-20 per cent of people who come down with flu-like symptoms have the influenza virus -- the other 80-85 per cent actually caught rhinovirus or other germs that are indistinguishable from the true flu without laboratory tests, which are rarely done. In 2001, a year in which death certificates listed 257 Americans as having died of flu, only 18 were positively identified as true flus. The other 239 were simply assumed to be flus and most likely had few true flus among them.

"U.S. data on influenza deaths are a mess," states a 2005 article in the British Medical Journal entitled "Are U.S. flu death figures more PR than science?" This article takes issue with the 36,000 flu-death figure commonly claimed, and with describing "influenza/pneumonia" as the seventh leading cause of death in the U.S.

"But why are flu and pneumonia bundled together?" the article asks. "Is the relationship so strong or unique to warrant characterizing them as a single cause of death?"

The article's answer is no. Most pneumonia deaths are unrelated to influenza. For example, "stomach acid suppressing drugs are associated with a higher risk of community-acquired pneumonia, but such drugs and pneumonia are not compiled as a single statistic," explained Dr. David Rosenthal, director of Harvard University Health Services. "People don't necessarily die, per se, of the [flu] virus -- the viraemia. What they die of is a secondary pneumonia."

Pneumonia, according to the American Lung Association, has more than 30 different causes, influenza being but one of them. The CDC itself acknowledges the slim relationship, saying "only a small proportion of deaths... only 8.5 per cent of all pneumonia and influenza deaths [are] influenza-related."

Because death certificates belie claims of numerous flu deaths, CDC enlisted computer models to arrive at its 36,000 flu-death estimate. But even here it needed to bend conventional medical terminology to arrive at compelling death numbers.

[Valkorado]

 

[98valk]

 Lam forgot to mention that billionaire couple Bill and Melina Gates pledged at least $10 billion for worldwide vaccination programs supposedly to combat polio and the measles, this is where Merck & Co profit. It is also well known that Bill Gates appointed the former president and CEO of Merck, Raymond Gilmartin to the board of directors of Microsoft which lasted for more than 11 years before he announced his retirement in 2012.

First published on January 27, 2016

The business of vaccines is soon to become a major source of profits for the world’s largest pharmaceutical corporations. A press release (Business Wire, January 21st 2016) published by marketwatch.com says that Technavio, one of the leading technology research and advisory companies in the world predicts that pharmaceutical corporations who produce vaccines will reach an estimated $61 billion in profits by 2020.

Today the vaccine market is worth close to $24 billion. The report titled ‘Global Human Vaccines Market 2016-2020’ gives an “in-depth analysis” of the possible revenues and “emerging market trends” globally.

According to the Press Release:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/big-pharma-and-big-profits-the-multibillion-dollar-vaccine-market/5503945

[Valkorado]

Sorry, that was in reference to "500 flu deaths in 2010".

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2010-2011.html

I have little doubt you're convinced C19 in an engineered hoax.  I guess you feel the same about the flu. 

I will call BS when I see it.

[scooperhsd]

Certainly the numbers are being hyperinflated. If the situation was as bad as they said - we should be seeing a situation like the black death plague of the middle ages.

[Valkorado]

Certainly the numbers are being hyperinflated. If the situation was as bad as they said - we should be seeing a situation like the black death plague of the middle ages.

Could be.  Maybe those numbers were hyperinflated as well.  And Spanish Flu's.  And Hong Kong flu.  And swine flu.  And seasonal flu. 

It's just what "they" do.  "They" love drama.

[Valkorado]

Hindsight 20/20.   

Hospitals can’t discharge coronavirus patients to nursing homes: Gov. Cuomo

https://nypost.com/2020/05/10/hospitals-cant-discharge-coronavirus-patients-to-nursing-homes-cuomo/amp/

[Robert]

What number would it be justified to lock down the country?

[Valkorado]

When would it be justified to lock down the economy and go through the things we are going through now, if ever?

I don't know that it ever would be.  You'd have to ask someone who condones locking down our great American economy.

[carolinarider09]

According to an article in “Independent” dated May 8, 2020 by Andrew Buncombe. (Linked below)

“The true number of people who have died during the coronavirus pandemic in America could be double the official figure, an adviser to the Centres for Disease Control (CDC) has warned, as evidence emerges that large numbers of seriously ill people have failed to seek medical attention for life-threatening conditions because of the contagion."

Reading the first line you say, wow, it was bad but read on.

And then this “tag line”.  (and if you just read the first part, you would think, really, but read on).

“But health experts say such counts do not show the full devastation of the virus because they do not include deaths from conditions such as heart failure, strokes or cancer of people who failed to get treatment, either because they were too scared to go to hospital, or else their appointment was cancelled as health departments were obliged to halt non-urgent procedures.”

“I (Mark Hayward, a sociology professor at the University of Texas at Austin) think the undercount is enormous. The overall burden of mortality from Covid, which covers all the causes that you talked about, could be enormously higher,” he said.

He suggested that figure could be double the current death toll of 75,000. “The true number of deaths that we’re looking at is probably at least one per cent of the current cases,” he said. “Which is about 1.2 million people. Right now we have about 75,000 deaths. I think probably we’re going to have closer to double that.”


So, 75,000 deaths (depending on which CDC Website) directly from COVID-19 and 75,000 deaths because people were scared to seek needed services or those services were turned off.  

And people want the lock down to continue. Go figure.

But the bad news is that all those deaths will be “attributed” to COVID-19 by the main-stream-media.  The current term used is the person was not tested but did have some COVID-19 related symptoms.

SAVE LIVES!  END THE LOCK DOWN NOW!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-coronavirus-real-death-toll-covid-29-cases-a9504911.html

[Robert]

As he stated he was going to do yesterday, Tesla CEO Elon Musk filed an 18-page lawsuit that asked a federal judge to allow him to re-open his factory in Fremont.

The response to Musk's actions this weekend from many on social media, including Democrats and left-leaning California politicians, was robust. CA Assemblywoman Lorena S. Gonzalez simply Tweeted "F*ck Elon Musk."



"We Sent Them Samples Of A Goat, A Papaya & A Pheasant": Tanzanian President Catches WHO In Epic Lie

All three samples reportedly tested positive. When the president heard the news, he reportedly confronted the WHO, then kicked the organization out of the country. Though, to be sure, the WHO has yet to comment on the situation.