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Now it is just a matter of time until Fox & Friends start claiming that Kelly Sadler never said that... or that this is all fake news... or that is not Trump's fault the people that he picks for his team...
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C'mon. Very seriously. What was stated is fact, it's no secret. Should he be treated with dignity? Absolutely. Should those who are opposed to his recent obstructions suddenly support him politically because he is dying? Not me. We live in a world where "funny" people pose for a picture holding a mock decapitated head of the President, where our First Lady's accent is mocked by Kimmel and where the press secretary is personally attacked at a supposedly cordial dinner. Pretty low how "we" have become, indeed. Isn't it great that we are so high above the fray? I don’t expect anybody to suddenly support his politics. I also don’t expect anybody to imply his opinion doesn’t matter because he is dieing. I don’t expect an ex-general to falsely accuse him of aiding the enemy in Vietnam. |
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Only because the are vultures Dan! They are eating the carrion of what was once a great nation. They don't care what happens to us as long as they get fat on our spoils. I don't give a damn if they are republicans or democrats, congress is full of self serving lowlifes. |
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I am sorry that he is sick and dying and my condolences to his family.
That does not mean that I will forgive or forget his foot in mouth times nor his being an ass.
He brought a lot of flack on himself by his actions, he earned it, he deserves it, so do not expect folks to forget it.
His dying does not in any way, excuse his actions, good or bad.
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That does not mean that I will forgive or forget his foot in mouth times nor his being an ass.
He brought a lot of flack on himself by his actions, he earned it, he deserves it, so do not expect folks to forget it.
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I will be concerned about this when the "sources" come out and identify themselves.
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I will be concerned about this when the "sources" come out and identify themselves.
Don't trust nbc or cnn or the rest of the "mainstream media" to inform me without conclusive and unbiased information.
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I will be concerned about this when the "sources" come out and identify themselves.
Don't trust nbc or cnn or the rest of the "mainstream media" to inform me without conclusive and unbiased information.
She has already apologized to Megan McCain. Numerous WH aides have verified her statement. Did you watch the Fox Business video of the general making slanderous lies about him ? If she apologized then that's it. Its over. I don't see McCain apologizing for anything he ever said about Trump nor anyone else. Who expresses that they do not want someone to attend their funeral. SAD |
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I am sorry that he is sick and dying and my condolences to his family.
That does not mean that I will forgive or forget his foot in mouth times nor his being an ass.
He brought a lot of flack on himself by his actions, he earned it, he deserves it, so do not expect folks to forget it.
His dying does not in any way, excuse his actions, good or bad.
Nor will it excuse ours.
He also brought much honor on himself and by extension the country by his service. He also brought much DIS-honor on himself and by extension the country by his service. He still does not know when to shut up and sit down, he never learned that lesson and he never will. I am done and I just sat down. |
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I will be concerned about this when the "sources" come out and identify themselves.
Don't trust nbc or cnn or the rest of the "mainstream media" to inform me without conclusive and unbiased information.
She has already apologized to Megan McCain. Numerous WH aides have verified her statement. Did you watch the Fox Business video of the general making slanderous lies about him ? If she apologized then that's it. Its over. I don't see McCain apologizing for anything he ever said about Trump nor anyone else. Who expresses that they do not want someone to attend their funeral. SAD What is it he said about Trump that you think he should apologize for ? If there was somebody I felt strongly about, I would make it known that I didn't want them at my funeral. Would you want Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama attending yours ? |
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That does not mean that I will forgive or forget his foot in mouth times nor his being an ass.
He brought a lot of flack on himself by his actions, he earned it, he deserves it, so do not expect folks to forget it.
His dying does not in any way, excuse his actions, good or bad.
Nor will it excuse ours.
He also brought much honor on himself and by extension the country by his service. He also brought much DIS-honor on himself and by extension the country by his service. He still does not know when to shut up and sit down, he never learned that lesson and he never will. I am done and I just sat down. Would you care to clarify what dishonor you are referring to ? |
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C'mon. Very seriously. What was stated is fact, it's no secret. Should he be treated with dignity? Absolutely. Should those who are opposed to his recent obstructions suddenly support him politically because he is dying? Not me. We live in a world where "funny" people pose for a picture holding a mock decapitated head of the President, where our First Lady's accent is mocked by Kimmel and where the press secretary is personally attacked at a supposedly cordial dinner. Pretty low how "we" have become, indeed. Isn't it great that we are so high above the fray? I don’t expect anybody to suddenly support his politics. I also don’t expect anybody to imply his opinion doesn’t matter because he is dieing. I don’t expect an ex-general to falsely accuse him of aiding the enemy in Vietnam. FYI, the accusation was made during his time in NAM. The question of if it is false or not wasnt settled. His dad was a politician also (admiral) so there was a question on if he was covered up. Right wrong or indifferent, we dont know. |
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C'mon. Very seriously. What was stated is fact, it's no secret. Should he be treated with dignity? Absolutely. Should those who are opposed to his recent obstructions suddenly support him politically because he is dying? Not me. We live in a world where "funny" people pose for a picture holding a mock decapitated head of the President, where our First Lady's accent is mocked by Kimmel and where the press secretary is personally attacked at a supposedly cordial dinner. Pretty low how "we" have become, indeed. Isn't it great that we are so high above the fray? I don’t expect anybody to suddenly support his politics. I also don’t expect anybody to imply his opinion doesn’t matter because he is dieing. I don’t expect an ex-general to falsely accuse him of aiding the enemy in Vietnam. FYI, the accusation was made during his time in NAM. The question of if it is false or not wasnt settled. His dad was a politician also (admiral) so there was a question on if he was covered up. Right wrong or indifferent, we dont know. That's a pretty low bar is it not ? Make an accusation, provide no evidence of said accusation, but it's not disproven so it's possible ? Sad indeed. I think the antedotal evidence is pretty overwhelming. He was not released early, he refused special treatment. Were he to have provided aid to the NVA don't you think he would have gotten something in return ? |
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As you know, the bars are pretty low all over. It just has to suit the position of the person or persons putting it out there.
I have been terribly disappointed in McCain for some time now and I attributed it to his medical problems. The aide in question had her brain in neutral for sure. We have a lot of great people who have served and suffered and he is no exception but the time to step aside may have come long before he or we realized. If there were term limits he would have been gone long ago.
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As you know, the bars are pretty low all over. It just has to suit the position of the person or persons putting it out there.
I have been terribly disappointed in McCain for some time now and I attributed it to his medical problems. The aide in question had her brain in neutral for sure. We have a lot of great people who have served and suffered and he is no exception but the time to step aside may have come long before he or we realized. If there were term limits he would have been gone long ago.
The Chief of Staff has the ball in his court, he doesn’t need the Presidents ok to let a staffer go.
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The answer to how petty we have become is how those who hate will jump on anything out of context and blow it up to something horribly offensive. If you're looking for opportunity to be offended you'll find it.
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I am sorry that he is sick and dying and my condolences to his family.
That does not mean that I will forgive or forget his foot in mouth times nor his being an ass.
He brought a lot of flack on himself by his actions, he earned it, he deserves it, so do not expect folks to forget it.
His dying does not in any way, excuse his actions, good or bad.
Nor will it excuse ours.
He also brought much honor on himself and by extension the country by his service. He also brought much DIS-honor on himself and by extension the country by his service. He still does not know when to shut up and sit down, he never learned that lesson and he never will. I am done and I just sat down. Would you care to clarify what dishonor you are referring to ? You know I do not do research for others, you can look it up just like I and others have and make your own decisions. OOPS I am shutting up and sitting down, sorry about that. |
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It was a casual comment made in what was intended to not be public. It was a little cold but not at all what it has been made to be.
The answer to how petty we have become is how those who hat will jump on anything out of context and blow it up to something horrible offensive. If you're looking for opportunity to be offended you'll find it.
I don't recall this same small minds being horrified when Hillary Clinton called anyone who didn't support her deplorable.
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That does not mean that I will forgive or forget his foot in mouth times nor his being an ass.
He brought a lot of flack on himself by his actions, he earned it, he deserves it, so do not expect folks to forget it.
His dying does not in any way, excuse his actions, good or bad.
Nor will it excuse ours.
He also brought much honor on himself and by extension the country by his service. He also brought much DIS-honor on himself and by extension the country by his service. He still does not know when to shut up and sit down, he never learned that lesson and he never will. I am done and I just sat down. Would you care to clarify what dishonor you are referring to ? You know I do not do research for others, you can look it up just like I and others have and make your own decisions. OOPS I am shutting up and sitting down, sorry about that. It was you that made the unsubstantiated claim against him. I just figured you'd want to explain it. |
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I will be concerned about this when the "sources" come out and identify themselves.
Don't trust nbc or cnn or the rest of the "mainstream media" to inform me without conclusive and unbiased information.
She has already apologized to Megan McCain. Numerous WH aides have verified her statement. Did you watch the Fox Business video of the general making slanderous lies about him ? If she apologized then that's it. Its over. I don't see McCain apologizing for anything he ever said about Trump nor anyone else. Who expresses that they do not want someone to attend their funeral. SAD What is it he said about Trump that you think he should apologize for ? If there was somebody I felt strongly about, I would make it known that I didn't want them at my funeral. Would you want Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama attending yours ? Who cares? YER DEAD and will never know who is or isn't there. |
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It was a casual comment made in what was intended to not be public. It was a little cold but not at all what it has been made to be.
The answer to how petty we have become is how those who hat will jump on anything out of context and blow it up to something horrible offensive. If you're looking for opportunity to be offended you'll find it.
I don't recall this same small minds being horrified when Hillary Clinton called anyone who didn't support her deplorable.
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It was a casual comment made in what was intended to not be public. It was a little cold but not at all what it has been made to be.
The answer to how petty we have become is how those who hat will jump on anything out of context and blow it up to something horrible offensive. If you're looking for opportunity to be offended you'll find it.
I don't recall this same small minds being horrified when Hillary Clinton called anyone who didn't support her deplorable.
My advice is grow up and step back.
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Meathead, to answer your original question. There is no low too low for this administration. It seems like not a day goes by that they don't find another way.
And there is no shortage of those that will find some way to defend it.
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And there is no shortage of those that will find some way to defend it.
Sad.
To be fair the last administration was several steps below the current administration as far as lows go. So I think we are headed in the right direction. Liberals really hate winning don't they. Seems all of them want to keep us in the hole we were digging for ourselves. Exactly! The US has to be reduced to a Third World Nation in order for their ONE WORLD ORDER to take over. |
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And there is no shortage of those that will find some way to defend it.
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That does not mean that I will forgive or forget his foot in mouth times nor his being an ass.
He brought a lot of flack on himself by his actions, he earned it, he deserves it, so do not expect folks to forget it.
His dying does not in any way, excuse his actions, good or bad.
Nor will it excuse ours.
He also brought much honor on himself and by extension the country by his service. He also brought much DIS-honor on himself and by extension the country by his service. He still does not know when to shut up and sit down, he never learned that lesson and he never will. I am done and I just sat down. Would you care to clarify what dishonor you are referring to ? You know I do not do research for others, you can look it up just like I and others have and make your own decisions. OOPS I am shutting up and sitting down, sorry about that. It was you that made the unsubstantiated claim against him. I just figured you'd want to explain it. I guess no one realized that you were anointed "substantiator" in chief of what facts in the public domain you would believe or not believe. Be careful that you do not misplace those rose colored glasses. |
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« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2018, 06:16:39 AM » |
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Meathead, to answer your original question. There is no low too low for this administration. It seems like not a day goes by that they don't find another way.
And there is no shortage of those that will find some way to defend it.
Sad.
Bob, I understand all that. What I am really saddened about is how a man who has given much to his country in the twilight of his career and life is being denigrated, all because he opposed a CIA nominee based on his strongly held belief that torture is wrong. There seems to be no bottom that both sides will stoop to in this tribal warfare. |
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« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2018, 06:50:03 AM » |
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Meathead, to answer your original question. There is no low too low for this administration. It seems like not a day goes by that they don't find another way.
And there is no shortage of those that will find some way to defend it.
Sad.
Bob, I understand all that. What I am really saddened about is how a man who has given much to his country in the twilight of his career and life is being denigrated, all because he opposed a CIA nominee based on his strongly held belief that torture is wrong. There seems to be no bottom that both sides will stoop to in this tribal warfare. I am saddened that you think that's the only reason he's being denigrated. I don't agree with wishing anyone harm because of their political beliefs but lighten up, its not like anyone is holding up a replica of his severed head. -RP |
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