The rest of the story about the Red Hen incident.

[Robert]

This is really sick and unfortunate for the family of Sanders.


LISTEN: Sarah Sanders’ Family Harassed Much Worse Than Initial Reports, Reveals Father Mike Huckabee



https://www.mrctv.org/videos/mike-huckabee-red-hen-owner-harassed-sarah-sanders-family-next-restaurant

[Bighead]

Its ok Robert they are liberal and they do nothing wrong yet being White and a Conservative gets you the Rascist label

[f6john]

Interesting side story that you never hear.

[Bighead]

44 views two comments.

[f6john]

Not much left to say. You have a member of Congress calling for more of the same with only minor push back from her peers. It’s the new normal.

[old2soon]

And just read where other resturants named red hen are receiving the blow back-threats-that ONLY the one in Lexington Va. should be getting. Appears to me anywho stupidity knows no bounds. I guess reading comprehension and application don't work well together for some folks!  RIDE SAFE.

[Oss]

It does appear that the out of control left is proud to become the new Brown shirts or if you prefer the thought police or new communist KGB charging itself with the rainbow purity of the country.

Is this  to be expected of the party that historically has blocked integration? This is the mirror image, what an amazing irony.

Teach your children and grandchildren what is happening while they are young lest they actually believe this new normal. Situational awareness does rarely happen spontaneously.  We owe it to our families to teach history so the kids and grandkids can speak up in school when the haters bait and demonize others.

Never be afraid to speak out as all it takes for hatred and evil to succeed is for us to do nothing, expecially the Democrats and Liberals after all if they dont try to check the party who can or will?

Will any of our liberals write a letter to their papers?  As a Democrat you bet I will.  And I may have to change my registration to Independent as I can not stomach this party and what it has become

[..]

It does appear that the out of control left is proud to become the new Brown shirts or if you prefer the thought police or new communist KGB charging itself with the rainbow purity of the country.

Is this  to be expected of the party that historically has blocked integration? This is the mirror image, what an amazing irony.

Teach your children and grandchildren what is happening while they are young lest they actually believe this new normal. Situational awareness does rarely happen spontaneously.  We owe it to our families to teach history so the kids and grandkids can speak up in school when the haters bait and demonize others.

Never be afraid to speak out as all it takes for hatred and evil to succeed is for us to do nothing, expecially the Democrats and Liberals after all if they dont try to check the party who can or will?

Will any of our liberals write a letter to their papers?  As a Democrat you bet I will.  And I may have to change my registration to Independent as I can not stomach this party and what it has become

From the heart Oss  

Perhaps communication with ones local Democrat Party representatives from State to city should also be done so they know how their voters feel.

[Robert]

I have heard the left cry that Obamas children should be left out and yet I hear nothing when it was only the kids in this situation. Is there a bit of hypocrisy even here?

[f6john]

Had a little chuckle about this earlier this morning. Fox was interviewing a democratic member of Congress about the Maxine Waters comments and while he didn’t come out in support of her, can you guess where he went? He said that Trump started it with his comment about punching a protester during the campaign and he would pay for their bail. So Trump is responsible for the Democrats behavior now and I suppose that extends to restaurant owners too.

[..]

Had a little chuckle about this earlier this morning. Fox was interviewing a democratic member of Congress about the Maxine Waters comments and while he didn’t come out in support of her, can you guess where he went? He said that Trump started it with his comment about punching a protester during the campaign and he would pay for their bail. So Trump is responsible for the Democrats behavior now and I suppose that extends to restaurant owners too.

Had a partial power outage in downtown Clayton last night. Trump's fault!

[Robert]

Had a very nice conversation with a democrat PA in the DA's office in Lexington. He actually said that the office and even personally was not happy with the way things went. I don't know if anything will come of it but told him about the interview with Mike Huckabee. He was unaware that the incident had continued to a protest across the street. I also stated I was also going to call the Police dept and find out if an investigation would be conducted and I personally knew some people that would contribute to the issue.

I expressed my perceived lack of fairness in the cake shops outcome and hoped that this would not just slide by and he actually agreed, although maybe not in principle but in appearance. 

There is nothing like them hearing how many people are watching and wanting to have some kind of fair resolve to the issue to make something worth pursuing.

In this country no matter how bad things got politically we never had to fear for our personal safety and the displays in recent have made this an unacceptable situation. I think that Maxine Waters should be brought up on charges of inciting a riot or at least be made responsible if anyone actually gets hurt in anyone of these encounters.

If anyone is interested I do have the AG's email if you would like to send him a message, pm me and I will give it to you.

[Ramie]

There is  a difference between being a Liberal and being Progressive leftist.  For some reason the Democrat party has been taken over by the later and it's a shame.

I know a lot will counter that the Trump faction has taken over the Republican party.  I consider myself more libertarian then anything.  I am not a fan of Trump's mouth but I am a fan of what he has accomplished and I think it a good thing the the Statists  are loosing control and the heavy bureaucracy of  our Government is getting slowly reigned in.

[Alberta Patriot]

These whack jobs run the education system...why do you think that a high percentage of Millenials are the permanently juvenile safe space snowflake generation who can't deal with the brutal competition of the real world...raised on the idea of participation trophies for everyone...failure is not an option.
BTW!!!...Pay very close attention to your rambunctious elementary school aged Grandsons...they are being placed on Ritalin because they don't act like little girls. The parents are told that their high energy boys are headed for some sort of pathology and need to be medicated....My wife and I faced this situation 30 years ago with a very bright and very energetic son. We crushed their idea of medicating him. He is now a senior project manager with an internet marketing company...sick bastards wanted to turn him into a zombie.

[Robert]

BTW!!!...Pay very close attention to your rambunctious elementary school aged Grandsons...they are being placed on Ritalin because they don't act like little girls. The parents are told that their high energy boys are headed for some sort of pathology and need to be medicated....My wife and I faced this situation 30 years ago with a very bright and very energetic son. We crushed their idea of medicating him. He is now a senior project manager with an internet marketing company...sick bastards wanted to turn him into a zombie.

A good warning, 

[Bighead]

Just wait til November......silent majority gonna rule once again.

[f6gal]

I read that Sanders now has Secret Service detail.

[Robert]

I did not want to start another thread for this but wanted some who were interested to see it. Its pretty damming and represents in an ad what the US has been going through. When put like this it makes you think how has the violence not been retaliated against? It makes you feel like we have been under a terrorist alert seeing this. Its an ad for the GOP but it says alot.

Some of this like Griffith not only makes me sick but brings me back to the days of the JFK assassination. That day will forever be etched in my heart and memory it was a sad day for America regardless of politics when men could conspire to kill a US president and dash the hopes of people and change the course of history. I almost wondered if the images were to graphic to post.


The Left in 2018: Unhinged
https://youtu.be/eFRHX6glTSM

[F6Dave]

Will any of our liberals write a letter to their papers?  As a Democrat you bet I will.  And I may have to change my registration to Independent as I can not stomach this party and what it has become

Well said.  When asked why he left the Democrat party, Ronald Reagan once replied 'I didn't leave the party, the party left me.'

Years ago I was Democrat.  Then one day I asked myself 'Why am I voting for these guys?'  It wasn't easy admitting I had been so wrong, so I switched to Independent for a few years before joining the Republicans.

[f6john]

Maxine and Hillary are two of the best assets the Republicans have. We need the general public and especially independent voters to see and hear their true nature. Their “followers” are sold out to their positions and ideas so that’s not going to change. The more outrageous their statements the better. When you get Chuck and Nancy trying to distance themselves you know you have struck gold.

[Robert]

Its so good to listen to this again they were so wrong then they are wrong today and Trump is actually winning the hearts of people

Just listen and be amazed.

Best Compilation- People Who Laughed at TRUMP...and said he would never be President - FUNN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahkMA6JPOHU

"Pelosi take it to the bank, Trump will not be president."

These are the same people that still are upset and recommend policy

[Patrick]

I haven't heard or have seen were the MSM has reported of the incident/protest by the Red Hen owner once the remainder of the Sanders family went to the other restaurant. Its said the Red Hen owner closed the restaurant for an extended period of time and has resigned from a local town position.  Good.

[Wizzard]

We had a pizza place not far from me in Walkerton IN back in the day that refused to cater a gay event and got national attention. It did not bode well for them and they closed eventually. These kind of events are not good for business and they will find out.

Fact is,, they would have served anyone, even if they were gay,, but they just did not want to cater their event
 

[bludragon]

The silent majority will decide, as it did in 2016.

[Serk]

The silent majority will decide, as it did in 2016.

They'll just put out a call that they're being hurt by those mean Trumpeters and need support and help, enough folks will go there just to make sure they stay afloat to keep them going, and if not it'll become a cause célèbre, and the Limousine Liberals will quietly become behind the scenes partners pumping money into it just to keep it going.

But we'll see...

[dinosnake]

I haven't heard or have seen were the MSM has reported of the incident/protest by the Red Hen owner once the remainder of the Sanders family went to the other restaurant. Its said the Red Hen owner closed the restaurant for an extended period of time and has resigned from a local town position.  Good.

If "good", then what you do call a cake maker that goes all the way to the Supreme Court to make sure they don't have to service gays?

Besides, irony?

[Valkorado]

If "good", then what you do call a cake maker that goes all the way to the Supreme Court to make sure they don't have to service gays?

Devout.

[bscrive]

The Red Hen incident has even had repercussions up here in Canada.  The woman that owns the 'Olde Red Hen' in Collingwood Ontario has been getting hundreds of messages on Facebook from all over the States admonishing her for her actions.  
The poor woman has had to reply to hundreds of them telling them that they have the wrong place.  She finally went to the media to try to clear things up.

[Serk]

I haven't heard or have seen were the MSM has reported of the incident/protest by the Red Hen owner once the remainder of the Sanders family went to the other restaurant. Its said the Red Hen owner closed the restaurant for an extended period of time and has resigned from a local town position.  Good.

If "good", then what you do call a cake maker that goes all the way to the Supreme Court to make sure they don't have to service gays?

Besides, irony?

"I will serve you, but I won't make this special item that I don't sell." is a very different issue from "I won't serve you."

[F6Dave]

I haven't heard or have seen were the MSM has reported of the incident/protest by the Red Hen owner once the remainder of the Sanders family went to the other restaurant. Its said the Red Hen owner closed the restaurant for an extended period of time and has resigned from a local town position.  Good.

If "good", then what you do call a cake maker that goes all the way to the Supreme Court to make sure they don't have to service gays?

Besides, irony?

That is NOT what happened here in Colorado.  The baker (Jack Phillips) said he would sell the gay couple anything in his store.  He simply refused to create a custom gay wedding cake.  He also won't make cakes for Halloween, or with sexually suggestive themes.

For that the Colorado Civil Rights Commission ordered Jack and his staff to stop selling wedding cakes, undergo reeducation, and submit quarterly reports.  They also compared Jack's religious beliefs to the defense of slavery or the Holocaust.  The Supreme Court ruled 7-2 against the Commission.

[dinosnake]

I haven't heard or have seen were the MSM has reported of the incident/protest by the Red Hen owner once the remainder of the Sanders family went to the other restaurant. Its said the Red Hen owner closed the restaurant for an extended period of time and has resigned from a local town position.  Good.

If "good", then what you do call a cake maker that goes all the way to the Supreme Court to make sure they don't have to service gays?

Besides, irony?

"I will serve you, but I won't make this special item that I don't sell." is a very different issue from "I won't serve you."

Quite ridiculous.  Saying to a customer who is ONLY there to purchase a wedding cake, "I won't make that wedding cake but feel free to buy anything 'else'" is exactly the same, to the customer, as saying "No, I won't serve you".

And don't bother telling me otherwise because I CONSTANTLY get that exact attitude from restaurants in my work district.  I have a specific dietary style and I constantly get told "No, we won't [modify a menu item / make something based upon something else / substitute an ingredient]", and then "but go ahead and eat something else" which I CAN'T from their menu choices. 

You've chosen semantics as a defense and it won't work.  The Supreme Court decided on religious grounds that the baker had the right to refuse service, not on a basis that the baker gave a Hobson's Choice to the customer and that was satisfactory.

[old2soon]

I haven't heard or have seen were the MSM has reported of the incident/protest by the Red Hen owner once the remainder of the Sanders family went to the other restaurant. Its said the Red Hen owner closed the restaurant for an extended period of time and has resigned from a local town position.  Good.

If "good", then what you do call a cake maker that goes all the way to the Supreme Court to make sure they don't have to service gays?

Besides, irony?

                      It's called Standing by your Religious Beliefs. Tilt it any way YOU want to tilt it But Religious Beliefs Is WHAT It Is. RIDE SAFE.

[dinosnake]

I haven't heard or have seen were the MSM has reported of the incident/protest by the Red Hen owner once the remainder of the Sanders family went to the other restaurant. Its said the Red Hen owner closed the restaurant for an extended period of time and has resigned from a local town position.  Good.

If "good", then what you do call a cake maker that goes all the way to the Supreme Court to make sure they don't have to service gays?

Besides, irony?

                      It's called Standing by your Religious Beliefs. Tilt it any way YOU want to tilt it But Religious Beliefs Is WHAT It Is. RIDE SAFE.

And it will almost CERTAINLY be overturned, as soon as some religious believer refuses services to an interracial couple because of their "religious beliefs".  It'll then be thrown back into the court system for violating existing laws regarding race relations, and we'll all be back to Square One.

Congrats.  Just because the Supreme Court made a decision does NOT mean that it was the right one to make (see: en dot wikipedia dot org/wiki/List_of_overruled_United_States_Supreme_Court_decisions)

[Serk]

And don't bother telling me otherwise because I CONSTANTLY get that exact attitude from restaurants in my work district.  I have a specific dietary style and I constantly get told "No, we won't [modify a menu item / make something based upon something else / substitute an ingredient]", and then "but go ahead and eat something else" which I CAN'T from their menu choices.

So in your world the government should put a gun to the head of whoever owns those restaurants and force them to make whatever you want, even if it's not something on their menu? Got it...

[..]

I haven't heard or have seen were the MSM has reported of the incident/protest by the Red Hen owner once the remainder of the Sanders family went to the other restaurant. Its said the Red Hen owner closed the restaurant for an extended period of time and has resigned from a local town position.  Good.

If "good", then what you do call a cake maker that goes all the way to the Supreme Court to make sure they don't have to service gays?

Besides, irony?

"I will serve you, but I won't make this special item that I don't sell." is a very different issue from "I won't serve you."

And don't bother telling me otherwise because I CONSTANTLY get that exact attitude from restaurants in my work district.  I have a specific dietary style and I constantly get told "No, we won't [modify a menu item / make something based upon something else / substitute an ingredient]", and then "but go ahead and eat something else" which I CAN'T from their menu choices. 

Can you share with us what your "dietary style" is so we can further understand?

[Gavin_Sons]

I haven't heard or have seen were the MSM has reported of the incident/protest by the Red Hen owner once the remainder of the Sanders family went to the other restaurant. Its said the Red Hen owner closed the restaurant for an extended period of time and has resigned from a local town position.  Good.

If "good", then what you do call a cake maker that goes all the way to the Supreme Court to make sure they don't have to service gays?

Besides, irony?

"I will serve you, but I won't make this special item that I don't sell." is a very different issue from "I won't serve you."

Quite ridiculous.  Saying to a customer who is ONLY there to purchase a wedding cake, "I won't make that wedding cake but feel free to buy anything 'else'" is exactly the same, to the customer, as saying "No, I won't serve you".

And don't bother telling me otherwise because I CONSTANTLY get that exact attitude from restaurants in my work district.  I have a specific dietary style and I constantly get told "No, we won't [modify a menu item / make something based upon something else / substitute an ingredient]", and then "but go ahead and eat something else" which I CAN'T from their menu choices. 

You've chosen semantics as a defense and it won't work.  The Supreme Court decided on religious grounds that the baker had the right to refuse service, not on a basis that the baker gave a Hobson's Choice to the customer and that was satisfactory.

I like to believe that a business owner has the right to refuse service or product to anyone they choose. So they gay cake thing didn't bother me as did this red hen thing. If you don't want to serve me i will just go somewhere else and spend my money. Just as restaurants you eat at should not have to make special food just for your dietary needs. You should know before you go what is on the menu, and if not check it when you get there. But at the same time these business owners should know there may be repercussions for their choice not to serve someone. Kind of goes hand in hand. And i agree that the gay cake and the red hen were 2 totally different things. One wanted something the bakery did not offer and the other just wanted what was on the menu.  

[Robert]

"I will serve you, but I won't make this special item that I don't sell." is a very different issue from "I won't serve you."

Quite ridiculous.  

Not really making a cake maybe with 2 men or 2 women on the top more than likely would be an issue and a endorsement of same sex marriage. Baking cookies and selling them is not the same issue.

Freedom of religion is a constitutionally protected right provided in the religion clauses of the First Amendment. That right includes bringing the teaching, interpretation and beliefs into businesses. The serving gays or discrimination on sexual grounds or any other ground is not mentioned in the constitution. Yet we prosecute in reverse as if the gay issue was written in the Constitution and freedom of religion was not.  In our health care there is a clause that allows Muslims not to be vaccinated because of belief it is the same principle

I would also say that business need to be consistent in their endorsement and execution of business policy. Sexual discrimination which is what the Red Hen was is not accepted on any grounds though. The owner was called because an individual felt strange serving someone who endorsed not allowing gays or transgenders in the military. A far cry from a religious teaching and principle that the country was founded on.

[..]

Should all my local gas stations be forced to offer ethanol free because that's what I want to buy?

[Gavin_Sons]

Should all my local gas stations be forced to offer ethanol free because that's what I want to buy?

yes, we should protest

[Wizzard]

Seems most liberals want to force you to do something,, but if you even try and force them to do anything, somehow "it's different"