Do you believe? Moon landing and round earth

[RDKLL]

So the 50th anniversary of the moon landing is upon us and there has been an uptick from those that do not believe it happened (I do) and the other day i spoke with someone I work with this is a Flat Earther...so I thought I would ask this group. Who believes we did not land on the moon or that the earth is flat...or both.

[hubcapsc]

Nasa knows the moon is flat, like the earth. They actually did send rockets up
there, but they approached from the edge instead of the surface, so they
kept missing it.

-Mike "Nasa, we have a D'OH!"

[DirtyDan]

I think if we tried to fake it the USSR Would of called BS

Flat earth ? Like everything else we see the in the sky ? (Round)

Dan

[ridingron]

  Nasa knows the moon is flat, like the earth. They actually did send rockets up
there, but they approached from the edge instead of the surface, so they
kept missing it.  

 We have several kinds of "holes" (mines, wells, caves, lakes, oceans) in the ground, some that go fairly deep. In the western Pacific, I think, the Mariana Trench is about 35,000 feet deep. None have come out on the other side so I ask a question:

Out of curiosity, anyone know the thickness of the "edge"?

[Chrisj CMA]

Anyone dumb enough to believe the earth is flat shouldn't own or ride a motorcycle.  As far as the lunar landing, we didn't have the video technology to fake it in the 60's.

We put a man on the moon.


The moon and the Earth are round (spherical) bodies.  To suggest otherwise is utter nonsense.

[Moonshot_1]

The earth is flat. But the earth is not smooth. An ocean trench on one side is a mountain range on the other. And there is no real "flat" edge but an edge like a frisbee. In fact, the frisbee was designed to look like the earth. The moon is obviously a wheel of green cheese. Everybody know this. It needs to age more. That was what the Apollo missions were about. Checking the aging of the cheese.

[Chrisj CMA]

The earth is flat. But the earth is not smooth. An ocean trench on one side is a mountain range on the other. And there is no real "flat" edge but an edge like a frisbee. In fact, the frisbee was designed to look like the earth. The moon is obviously a wheel of green cheese. Everybody know this. It needs to age more. That was what the Apollo missions were about. Checking the aging of the cheese.

Lololol that was the most intelligent explaination of a flat Earth I have heard. Thanks for the laugh.

[RDKLL]

The Flat Earthers actually say that the edges are ice mountains like an edge. I think the funniest thing about the FE's is that they have no issue with the globularity of other bodies in space.

[Serk]

This is my go-to video about the moon landing hoax:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw

[RDKLL]

This is my go-to video about the moon landing hoax

Great video! 

[Chrisj CMA]

Thanks Serk. That video says it all without having to say it

[..]

Earth flat yet no one has flown to the other side?

And they are allowed to vote if they are USA citizens.

[John Schmidt]

Easy to dispell the FE's, just consider a great circle flight from NYk to London or Paris. If the earth were flat, a straight line would be the shortest route. But since the earth is rather round, a straight line flight is longer than a great circle flight to the same destination.

[Rams]

Earth flat yet no one has flown to the other side?

And they are allowed to vote if they are USA citizens.

Or registered democrats.   

[Cracker Jack]

Easy to dispell the FE's, just consider a great circle flight from NYk to London or Paris. If the earth were flat, a straight line would be the shortest route. But since the earth is rather round, a straight line flight is longer than a great circle flight to the same destination.

I'd say a great circle route is the straightest and shortest route between two points on the surface of a sphere.

[John Schmidt]

Easy to dispell the FE's, just consider a great circle flight from NYk to London or Paris. If the earth were flat, a straight line would be the shortest route. But since the earth is rather round, a straight line flight is longer than a great circle flight to the same destination.

I'd say a great circle route is the straightest and shortest route between two points on the surface of a sphere.

Correct!

[tank_post142]

i got out of the military in 1992. headed west out of Detroit until i got to Detroit. it took almost 5 months and 23900 miles with all the mucking about. i headed west the whole time, by road, by train track, by boat. never saw the edge, so maybe its not flat, but a Mobius strip moving east/west ?

[Psychotic Bovine]

We went to the moon.  There is proof, completely undeniable.  Several laser reflectors were left up there, which when struck by an earth-based laser, gives us precise date on the Moon's distance from earth based on the time for the beam to get back to earth.
I don't know even how to argue with the FE's though. They have some very weird notions of physics and use pseudo-scientific nonsense words to "prove" it.

[Alpha Dog]

For me the real story were the UFO craft that surveilled, and sometimes at very close distance on every Lunar trip.  A lot of those Apollo astronauts became aware another presence was with them.  Some kept it close to themselves, some would mention it briefly, and some were very vocal on their thoughts. 

[pais]

     I was  always amazed as well as perplexed but, after reading about the ice mountains being the edges of the earth. I finally know how the water is kept from running off the edges. That is how I always knew the earth is not round. There is absolutely no way water will stay in place on a round surface. Just think about it.

[Psychotic Bovine]

     I was  always amazed as well as perplexed but, after reading about the ice mountains being the edges of the earth. I finally know how the water is kept from running off the edges. That is how I always knew the earth is not round. There is absolutely no way water will stay in place on a round surface. Just think about it.

I really, really, really hope you're kidding.

[Rams]

     I was  always amazed as well as perplexed but, after reading about the ice mountains being the edges of the earth. I finally know how the water is kept from running off the edges. That is how I always knew the earth is not round. There is absolutely no way water will stay in place on a round surface. Just think about it.

Now why didn't my grade school science teachers explain it that way.......

So much easier to understand now..   Yeppers, no doubt.   Ice mountains....   

Rams. 

[Black Pearl's Captain]

Easy to dispell the FE's, just consider a great circle flight from NYk to London or Paris. If the earth were flat, a straight line would be the shortest route. But since the earth is rather round, a straight line flight is longer than a great circle flight to the same destination.

I'd say a great circle route is the straightest and shortest route between two points on the surface of a sphere.

Since when were circles straight? Now an arc....

[Dave Ritsema]

Now I finally understand where the missing passengers that were in the jets that hit the world trade center went. I have read the theory's on how the jets were actually packed full of extra fuel tanks with no passengers aboard and that the people were being held somewhere.

Clearly they just flew off the end of the earth over the top of the ice mountains are now out in space somewhere.  This is a game changer! 

[98valk]

     I was  always amazed as well as perplexed but, after reading about the ice mountains being the edges of the earth. I finally know how the water is kept from running off the edges. That is how I always knew the earth is not round. There is absolutely no way water will stay in place on a round surface. Just think about it.

that describes The Truman Show

[Rams]

Now I finally understand where the missing passengers that were in the jets that hit the world trade center went. I have read the theory's on how the jets were actually packed full of extra fuel tanks with no passengers aboard and that the people were being held somewhere.

Clearly they just flew off the end of the earth over the top of the ice mountains are now out in space somewhere.  This is a game changer!  

Whoa there.   I was right there with ya until ya said "they flew off into space".   Now, if the planes full of extra gas tanks flew into the WTC, just how did those paxs fly into space?  
Curious minds want to know.......  

Rams

[carolinarider09]

My response is that the earth is not flat, sort of spherical, you can see it easily when you are high enough up.

Yes we landed on the moon.  And just think that was 50 years ago.  We went back several times.

But I have a question to ask as well.

Are we, homo sapiens, the only intelligent life form in the galaxy we call the Milk Way?  If yes, why?  If no, why?

(Yes I know this changes the context of this thread)

[Rams]

My response is that the earth is not flat, sort of spherical, you can see it easily when you are high enough up.

Yes we landed on the moon.  And just think that was 50 years ago.  We went back several times.

But I have a question to ask as well.

Are we, homo sapiens, the only intelligent life form in the galaxy we call the Milk Way?  If yes, why?  If no, why?

(Yes I know this changes the context of this thread)

Define intelligent.....     

Rams

[Chrisj CMA]

Now I finally understand where the missing passengers that were in the jets that hit the world trade center went. I have read the theory's on how the jets were actually packed full of extra fuel tanks with no passengers aboard and that the people were being held somewhere.

Clearly they just flew off the end of the earth over the top of the ice mountains are now out in space somewhere.  This is a game changer! 

What a load of BS!  The planes were hijacked, no extra fuel, there is plenty on a plane like that already.  The passengers all died in the crash. It's not a mystery.

[Rams]

Now I finally understand where the missing passengers that were in the jets that hit the world trade center went. I have read the theory's on how the jets were actually packed full of extra fuel tanks with no passengers aboard and that the people were being held somewhere.

Clearly they just flew off the end of the earth over the top of the ice mountains are now out in space somewhere.  This is a game changer! 

What a load of BS!  The planes were hijacked, no extra fuel, there is plenty on a plane like that already.  The passengers all died in the crash. It's not a mystery.

Hey, I just learned about the ice mountains, give me a break........

Rams.

[Dave Ritsema]

Now I finally understand where the missing passengers that were in the jets that hit the world trade center went. I have read the theory's on how the jets were actually packed full of extra fuel tanks with no passengers aboard and that the people were being held somewhere.

Clearly they just flew off the end of the earth over the top of the ice mountains are now out in space somewhere.  This is a game changer! 

What a load of BS!  The planes were hijacked, no extra fuel, there is plenty on a plane like that already.  The passengers all died in the crash. It's not a mystery.

You are terribly misinformed. The planes were not hijacked, that's what THEY want you to believe. The former passengers of that flight were taken to a hidden location and different planes that were packed with fuel and explosives were deliberately flown into the WTC center to give the impression that this was done by middle east terrorists to justify the USA's retaliatory attacks.

I used to work with someone whom I formerly regarded as reasonably intelligent that actually believed that and apparently he wasn't the only one.

[Dave Ritsema]

Now I finally understand where the missing passengers that were in the jets that hit the world trade center went. I have read the theory's on how the jets were actually packed full of extra fuel tanks with no passengers aboard and that the people were being held somewhere.

Clearly they just flew off the end of the earth over the top of the ice mountains are now out in space somewhere.  This is a game changer!  

Whoa there.   I was right there with ya until ya said "they flew off into space".   Now, if the planes full of extra gas tanks flew into the WTC, just how did those paxs fly into space?  
Curious minds want to know.......  

Rams

In DIFFERENT planes.....Jeez......Use your noodle. 

[Rams]

Now I finally understand where the missing passengers that were in the jets that hit the world trade center went. I have read the theory's on how the jets were actually packed full of extra fuel tanks with no passengers aboard and that the people were being held somewhere.

Clearly they just flew off the end of the earth over the top of the ice mountains are now out in space somewhere.  This is a game changer!  

Whoa there.   I was right there with ya until ya said "they flew off into space".   Now, if the planes full of extra gas tanks flew into the WTC, just how did those paxs fly into space?  
Curious minds want to know.......  

Rams

In DIFFERENT planes.....Jeez......Use your noodle.  

Yah, sure.....
You ain't pullin that one on me,  I've watched a bunch of movies and planes can't fly in space.    They gotta have rocket injuns.  
Rams

[..]

My response is that the earth is not flat, sort of spherical, you can see it easily when you are high enough up.

Yes we landed on the moon.  And just think that was 50 years ago.  We went back several times.

But I have a question to ask as well.

Are we, homo sapiens, the only intelligent life form in the galaxy we call the Milk Way?  If yes, why?  If no, why?

(Yes I know this changes the context of this thread)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk

[Savago]

Anyone dumb enough to believe the earth is flat shouldn't own or ride a motorcycle.  As far as the lunar landing, we didn't have the video technology to fake it in the 60's.

We put a man on the moon.


The moon and the Earth are round (spherical) bodies.  To suggest otherwise is utter nonsense.

Amen, brother.

[Reb]

Yes, we landed on the moon. The Apollo program, in general, is probably the greatest engineering achievement of the modern era IMO.

Just to transcribe the transparency of cross-function team collaboration it took to design and manufacture the Saturn V rocket. (Some useless knowledge of the day)

The second stage of the Saturn V rocket, being manufactured by North American Aviation at Seal Beach California (a big surfing town).

Engineers continued to fail at applying the new honeycomb design insulation used to stop the liquid hydrogen & oxygen fuel in the tanks from boiling in the California sun. After admitting defeat, Engineers and project managers reached out to the local surfers in the area, as it came to there knowledge that new surf board designs utilized the same type of insulation, and surfers were well skilled in the application as most of them built there own boards.

So NAA hired surfers to assist in the manufacturing process of laying the insulation between fuel tanks on the Saturn V rocket 2nd stage.

SO! California surfers helped get us to the moon..... Far Out bro????  

[Rams]

The second stage of the Saturn V rocket, being manufactured by North American Aviation at Seal Beach California (a big surfing town).

Engineers continued to fail at applying the new honeycomb design insulation used to stop the liquid hydrogen & oxygen fuel in the tanks from boiling in the California sun. After admitting defeat, Engineers and project managers reached out to the local surfers in the area, as it came to there knowledge that new surf board designs utilized the same type of insulation, and surfers were well skilled in the application as most of them built there own boards.

So NAA hired surfers to assist in the manufacturing process of laying the insulation between fuel tanks on the Saturn V rocket 2nd stage.

SO! California surfers helped get us to the moon..... Far Out bro????   :

You sure about that Seal Beach connection.   I'm not saying you are wrong but, I spent two years at NWS Seal Beach and, I don't remember any waves worth mentioning.   I tried to learn to surf there.   Reminded me of turtles on a post.......

Rams

[Reb]

The second stage of the Saturn V rocket, being manufactured by North American Aviation at Seal Beach California (a big surfing town).

Engineers continued to fail at applying the new honeycomb design insulation used to stop the liquid hydrogen & oxygen fuel in the tanks from boiling in the California sun. After admitting defeat, Engineers and project managers reached out to the local surfers in the area, as it came to there knowledge that new surf board designs utilized the same type of insulation, and surfers were well skilled in the application as most of them built there own boards.

So NAA hired surfers to assist in the manufacturing process of laying the insulation between fuel tanks on the Saturn V rocket 2nd stage.

SO! California surfers helped get us to the moon..... Far Out bro????   :

You sure about that Seal Beach connection.   I'm not saying you are wrong but, I spent two years at NWS Seal Beach and, I don't remember any waves worth mentioning.   I tried to learn to surf there.   Reminded me of turtles on a post.......

Rams

I'm sure, maybe it was different in the mid 60s.
https://youtu.be/o39UlJlMce8

Fast forward to about 16min into the video for clarification, documentary on the saturn v development.

[Rams]

The second stage of the Saturn V rocket, being manufactured by North American Aviation at Seal Beach California (a big surfing town).

Engineers continued to fail at applying the new honeycomb design insulation used to stop the liquid hydrogen & oxygen fuel in the tanks from boiling in the California sun. After admitting defeat, Engineers and project managers reached out to the local surfers in the area, as it came to there knowledge that new surf board designs utilized the same type of insulation, and surfers were well skilled in the application as most of them built there own boards.

So NAA hired surfers to assist in the manufacturing process of laying the insulation between fuel tanks on the Saturn V rocket 2nd stage.

SO! California surfers helped get us to the moon..... Far Out bro????   :

You sure about that Seal Beach connection.   I'm not saying you are wrong but, I spent two years at NWS Seal Beach and, I don't remember any waves worth mentioning.   I tried to learn to surf there.   Reminded me of turtles on a post.......

Rams

I'm sure, maybe it was different in the mid 60s.
https://youtu.be/o39UlJlMce8

Fast forward to about 16min into the video for clarification, documentary on the saturn v development.

Hey Bubba, I'm not that old.....  . Yet.

Rams. 

[bscrive]

Round earth - yep

moon landing - nope.  I use to believe that you guys did until I saw a documentary about three mile island disaster and wondered why they couldn't use space suits to clean it up.  I found out that space suits filter UV radiation, but not much else.  Also, past the Van Allen belt is a whole different ball game from what astronauts experience on the space station.  But, if some third party happens to go there and takes viewable pictures of the moon landing then I would change my mind again.  The pictures that NASA have are pretty much useless.