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One could say that it was an intentional move to place them in danger. Do you have any other reason?
Place them in danger? Wow, reaching way out there IMHO. How bout keeping them in DC so a deal could be made? Just my first thought.... Edited: Of course, she can always get a commercial flight at her own expense and travel but my bet is, that ain't gonna happen. Rams  |
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Not sure she would fly "commercial" with the amount of luggage she was planning are taking....even with first bag free or maybe first two bags free if flying first class.....lots of "stuff" for a one week trip.....
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And our troops don't want to see her either.
And by the way.... what possible feasible expertise could that dingbat bring to the Afghanistan military theater of operations? And she would have no business interfering in State Department dealings with local G either.
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This administration disgust you? Well there's a surprise. NOT. You know damn well Pelosi would have never flown commercial with the common folk so that point is moot. She is just posturing as usual. She tells Trump to not give the Stat of the union address buts it's OK to fly overseas. Hypocrisy much. The last administration digested me so there's that.... |
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You really believe she was planning to fly commercial? Seriously? How would I know that? What is apparent, is that plans were made. Then WH officials were tripping over themselves to leak those plans to the public. What reason could they possibly have to do that? One could say that it was an intentional move to place them in danger. Do you have any other reason? How would you”know” that WH officials were tripping over themselves to leak those plans to the public? See how that works? We tend to believe what we want that supports our own thoughts. Did you read the article? “In the middle of the night, the State Department’s Diplomatic Security Service provided an updated threat assessment detailing that the President announcing this sensitive travel had significantly increased danger to the delegation and to the troops, security, and other officials supporting the trip. This morning, we learned that the Administration had leaked the commercial travel plans as well. In light of the grave threats caused by the President’s action, the delegation has decided to postpone the trip so as not to further endanger our troops and security personnel, or the other travelers on the flights.” The White House did not immediately return a request for comment on Pelosi’s statement. Hammill said later in an email that Pelosi canceled the trip after her office found out that multiple administration officials had attempted to leak the congressional delegation’s commercial flight plans through reporters. Reading is one thing, believing is another. Once Trump cancelled her military transport, I’m sure the security service did reevaluate the situation, it their job. The “leaks” and there origin remains the question. |
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Honestly, we all look for information, data and sources to support our views.
But, the Left is desperate for anything and will grasp at any straw, rumor or report they think will support their side without questioning the validity of the report. Both sides put spin on the stories they put out there.
But, some use sources with such a slanted agenda (Pelosi), credibility not withstanding.
Remember when the Affordable Care Act was such good deal and had to be passed. But Speaker Pelosi, no one has read it. Well, they can read it after they vote for it. Not verbatim but close enough.
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And our troops don't want to see her either.
And by the way.... what possible feasible expertise could that dingbat bring to the Afghanistan military theater of operations? And she would have no business interfering in State Department dealings with local G either.
That is a correct assessment. Her trip was a "finger in the eye of the President" and the country for that matter. She firmly believes that she is "queen" and all must do her bidding. That she, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, one who can call for votes, select legislation that may be considered for voting, would leave the country for seven days while be-moaning the shutdown just shows you what a swamp the United States Congress and bureaucracy has become. I am thoroughly feed up with the way our representatives represent us. They don't. In most cases they represent themselves, their future income and power. And yes I don't find the way Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is hanging the US Senate any better. The fact that a single person can withhold a vote on a piece of legislation is not right and not in keeping with what our founding fathers wished to put into place. |
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« Reply #64 on: January 18, 2019, 10:50:55 AM » |
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Honestly, we all look for information, data and sources to support our views.
But, the Left is desperate for anything and will grasp at any straw, rumor or report they think will support their side without questioning the validity of the report. Both sides put spin on the stories they put out there.
But, some use sources with such a slanted agenda (Pelosi), credibility not withstanding.
Remember when the Affordable Care Act was such good deal and had to be passed. But Speaker Pelosi, no one has read it. Well, they can read it after they vote for it. Not verbatim but close enough.
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You're right, Ron. We all do look for info or articles that will bolster our arguments in whatever is the story of the day. I've spent a little time looking for other sources, and only came up with one other that I'd seen earlier. ... https://www.thedailybeast.com/pelosi-says-trump-leaked-commercial-travel-plans-forcing-her-to-cancel-afghanistan-tripI guess time will tell if it's accurate or not. If not, I apologize for posting something before I had corroboration. If true, well, I'll leave that up to y'all. |
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To Isis/taliban/whatever terrorist group it would be a big win to get one congressman. Bonus points if is the house speaker. For them, it doesn't matter if it is a red or blue American politician, what it does matter is that is an American life prone to be harvested.
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It was funny. I thought DNA showed Latin blood, not Mexican blood? (though western hemisphere Latin must include a lot of Spanish and Indian blood). I liked Mexico OK (and from what I can remember, I had a real good time there a bunch of times; I ate the worm almost every time), I just don't like the risk of being shot or kidnapped by cartels, or on the other side, dealing with their judicial system and jails (if I had too), or Montezuma's revenge. And now because of complicity in tidal waves of illegals, I wouldn't spend any money there at all, even if it was safe (just like a dozen or so states in my own country, for other similar political reasons). And, I've let my passport expire, so there's that. ( Whatyamean I can't come back in??? Now where's the hole in the fence?) And even with three years of Mexican ( ) in Jr Hi, I no speaka so good in Espaniol (and meeting Izabel at the library just doesn't come up all that much).  |
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To Isis/taliban/whatever terrorist group it would be a big win to get one congressman. Bonus points if is the house speaker. For them, it doesn't matter if it is a red or blue American politician, what it does matter is that is an American life prone to be harvested.
When I first read Trump's letter I though it was an internet hoax (and a funny one at it).
Are there risks? Sure. Them just getting on the bus has risks. But the risks for this particular trip are minimal. At worst. They aren't going into active conflict zones. They are obviously going into well secured zones. What Pelosi and the other congress folks needed to do was to invite Hillary Clinton. Hillary could be on point and show them how to dodge sniper fire. I hear she is good at it. |
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From the way I'm reading some comments, it seems that some believe that Pelosi doesn't face any risks while travelling to a conflict zone.
To Isis/taliban/whatever terrorist group it would be a big win to get one congressman. Bonus points if is the house speaker. For them, it doesn't matter if it is a red or blue American politician, what it does matter is that is an American life prone to be harvested.
When I first read Trump's letter I though it was an internet hoax (and a funny one at it).
Honestly, her and her team's risk is minimal. Security (military and special) is ramped up to an unbelievable level. Planes, heilcopters, special ops teams, snipers and regular grunts are all put at their highest levels due to the positions of the visitors. So no, I don't see much risk. I also see this trip as untimely, unneeded and a waste of resources, time and money. She is not the CnC. Rams |
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To Isis/taliban/whatever terrorist group it would be a big win to get one congressman. Bonus points if is the house speaker. For them, it doesn't matter if it is a red or blue American politician, what it does matter is that is an American life prone to be harvested.
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