Car Tire info

[Rosie]

Wondering if a car tire would work with about 550 lbs on bike pulling a 200 lbs trailer without rubbing ? I have taken nut cages out and use the oe rectangle nuts. Has anyone else done this with this kind of weights? What tire and size. Thanks.

[Hook#3287]

I've never had that much weight on my Valks, nor pulled a trailer, but, I'm guessing the average car tire has a weight rating of over 1000lbs.

A Valk weights around 900lbs

so 900 + 550 = 1450lbs \ 2= 725lbs.   Then add in tongue weight.

As far as rubbing goes, it's like the old saying, "That tire's only flat on the bottom"

[Jersey]

I run the Yokohama Avid Envigor 205/60-16 with Progressive Suspension 416 Series 14" Air Shocks 416-1626A and nut cage mod.

With 1-up, had some increased side scraping in the turns.
With 2-up, had a lot of increased side scraping the turns.
Neither 1 or 2-up do I have rubbing inside the fender or on the mounting hardware.

The Envigor is about 1" smaller in diameter than a normal MC. I originally had the Progressive Suspension 416 13" Series Air Shocks but these couldn't quite compensate for the loss in height, so I purchased the  14" shocks.  These have helped a lot! No side scraping except for when I REALLY push it over at high speeds.  No problems with 2-up and luggage.

If you experience any issues, this might be an option to consider.  Only thing is during installation I had to compress the 14" shock springs and wrap the ends with bailing wire to hold them in while I installed.  You can't install them at rest with the add 1".  Minor workaround and easy to do if you have a carpenter's pipe clamp around.

Hope this helps.
Jersey

[The emperor has no clothes]

Wondering if a car tire would work with about 550 lbs on bike pulling a 200 lbs trailer without rubbing ? I have taken nut cages out and use the oe rectangle nuts. Has anyone else done this with this kind of weights? What tire and size. Thanks.

I think I'd move some of the weight to the trailer if you could. I've had close to 400 lbs. on the bike and maybe 150lbs. of gear in the trailer. My trailer probably weighs 100 lb. With the 400 lb. on the bike it will bottom out occasionally . I have tried several car tire combos. I've come to a 195/65 Radar as my favorite so far.

[Bambam650]

Meathead............what model Radar tire are you running, please?

[The emperor has no clothes]

Meathead............what model Radar tire are you running, please?

Radar Argonite. It's about halfway down this thread. I really like it, and it's wearing great.
http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,101155.0.html

[MarkT]

I pull trailers with a heavy tongue weight - around 100#.  Use an Austone taxi tire.  This tire is nowhere near rubbing the rt side swingarm - not close like the 205mm tires.  This bike has the nut cage mod but not needed with the ATT.  I run 444 13" shocks - have never bottomed inside the fender.  The ATT is only one size - which is greater diameter than OEM resulting in lower RPMs.

[Relax]

I run the Yokohama Avid Envigor 205/60-16 with Progressive Suspension 416 Series 14" Air Shocks 416-1626A and nut cage mod.

With 1-up, had some increased side scraping in the turns.
With 2-up, had a lot of increased side scraping the turns.
Neither 1 or 2-up do I have rubbing inside the fender or on the mounting hardware.

The Envigor is about 1" smaller in diameter than a normal MC. I originally had the Progressive Suspension 416 13" Series Air Shocks but these couldn't quite compensate for the loss in height, so I purchased the  14" shocks.  These have helped a lot! No side scraping except for when I REALLY push it over at high speeds.  No problems with 2-up and luggage.

If you experience any issues, this might be an option to consider.  Only thing is during installation I had to compress the 14" shock springs and wrap the ends with bailing wire to hold them in while I installed.  You can't install them at rest with the add 1".  Minor workaround and easy to do if you have a carpenter's pipe clamp around.

Hope this helps.
Jersey

14" rear shock will change the angel on the forks a bit, I guess , especially riding single. Do you feel it is different in the twisties or other situations?

[Jersey]

I run the Yokohama Avid Envigor 205/60-16 with Progressive Suspension 416 Series 14" Air Shocks 416-1626A and nut cage mod.

With 1-up, had some increased side scraping in the turns.
With 2-up, had a lot of increased side scraping the turns.
Neither 1 or 2-up do I have rubbing inside the fender or on the mounting hardware.

The Envigor is about 1" smaller in diameter than a normal MC. I originally had the Progressive Suspension 416 13" Series Air Shocks but these couldn't quite compensate for the loss in height, so I purchased the  14" shocks.  These have helped a lot! No side scraping except for when I REALLY push it over at high speeds.  No problems with 2-up and luggage.

If you experience any issues, this might be an option to consider.  Only thing is during installation I had to compress the 14" shock springs and wrap the ends with bailing wire to hold them in while I installed.  You can't install them at rest with the add 1".  Minor workaround and easy to do if you have a carpenter's pipe clamp around.

Hope this helps.
Jersey

14" rear shock will change the angel on the forks a bit, I guess , especially riding single. Do you feel it is different in the twisties or other situations?

I think it is pretty much the same, mostly because the 14" shocks put back the loss in height from the Envigor having a smaller diameter than the OEM MTs.  I did the math as best as I could, so I don't think the fork angle was affected.  As an example, through the Blueridge Parkway coming up NC and VA, I was comfortably running 20 over throughout.  The reason why I changed was I did notice a difference in the twisties with the 13" shocks.