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Timing belt tensioner pulley rebuild plates - MD Tech

Started by mello dude, Fri 25, Mar 2022, 17:49:01

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mello dude

Hey - Following up from this topic....
http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,121068.0.html


---->I am in process to have the quotes for laser cut parts and would like to know who would want this.
Debating about the material for it. The stocker is a steel piece, but type is unknown and there's no corrosion on it. So, I am looking at cold rolled steel and then 316 stainless. - I'm a tiny bit conserned about gavanic interface corrosion with the SS, but thinking to add a .005 Mylar insulator washer to the interface if I go that way. And possibly with the Cold Rolled steel, I would powder coat it.. (my own parts only -- I could do the batch if asked)

The thing is, once you have the tensioner plates, when the time comes around to replace the OEM tensioner, you are now looking at a 40 dollar job, buy new bearings from Amazon, instead of a $180 to $200 job depending on who you buy the OEM part from.  Then, maybe later as a maintenance item say 50k to 60k miles, you just replace the bearings and reuse the tensioner plates.  And.. will be far better than the OEM overpriced cheap assembly.
---(An assembly note: It will go together with a M10 x 1.25 x 25mm Hex Flange head bolt & Nut. Grade 10.9 )

(2 cents on me, I am an automotive engineer by trade. I always overthink and overkill stuff.  So I have made laser cut parts before typically first because I want that part for my bike, and make more to spread out the cost. Then sell the parts to other guys and try to break even. )



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Valker

I'll take at least one set. Valker1@hotmail.com
I ride a motorcycle because nothing transports me as quickly from where I am to who I am.

mello dude

#2
Quote from: Valker on Fri 25, Mar 2022, 18:36:34
I'll take some. Vallker1@hotmail.com
Oh, I forgot to ask,  obviously 2 is a set. Mention number of sets....
Thxz
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The emperor has no clothes

I think you might have more takers if you were to sell the complete tensioner put together. I like to do the work on my bike, and would probably rebuild mine myself. But a lot of guys don't, and would prefer buying the complete unit. (Just an idea)  :cooldude:

mello dude

#4
Quote from: The emperor has no clothes on Fri 25, Mar 2022, 19:09:14
I think you might have more takers if you were to sell the complete tensioner put together. I like to do the work on my bike, and would probably rebuild mine myself. But a lot of guys don't, and would prefer buying the complete unit. (Just an idea)  :cooldude:
That's a thought, if consensus prefers that way... rather not, price starts to go up... but I would if needed.
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* Mr. Murphy was an optimist....
* There's a very fine line between Insanity and Genius.....
* My get up and go, must have got up and went.....

luftkoph

SS or steel doesn't matter to me, nor the need for powder coating, I'll take 2 sets
Some day never comes

Mooskee

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Skinhead

"Debating about the material for it. The stocker is a steel piece, but type is unknown and there's no corrosion on it. So, I am looking at cold rolled steel and then 316 stainless. - I'm a tiny bit conserned about gavanic interface corrosion with the SS, but thinking to add a .005 Mylar insulator washer to the interface if I go that way. "

It has been about 38 years since I had my corrosion class while getting my metallurgical engineering degree, but I doubt there is much difference as far as galvanic corrosion between stainless and plain carbon steel.  If I understand your concern properly. you are worried about corrosion between the mounting plate and the tensioner pully?  Stainless and carbon steel are both iron basically, so I would think there would be little to no difference in galvanic potential between the two parts.  The tensioners mount via a steel bolt to the aluminum cylinder case, there is a difference in galvanic potential between aluminum and steel, but since we don't see corrosion between the OEM tensioners and the cylinder case, I doubt you need be concerned.


Friendsville, TN - Troy, MI

mello dude

#8
Skinhead, just overthinking the steel/aluminum interface....thanks for your expertise, awesome post. :cooldude:
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* Mr. Murphy was an optimist....
* There's a very fine line between Insanity and Genius.....
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Skinhead

No Problem.  In designing something, it is good to look at all possibilities for failure, and if you can confidently eliminate them, the greater your chances of a successful design.

Friendsville, TN - Troy, MI

mello dude

#10
Quote from: Skinhead on Sat 26, Mar 2022, 14:13:34
No Problem.  In designing something, it is good to look at all possibilities for failure, and if you can confidently eliminate them, the greater your chances of a successful design.

Yup, agree... that's what I do for a living...  :)
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* Mr. Murphy was an optimist....
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mello dude

#11
316 stainless steel material with  Grade 10.9 fasteners



OEM piece on left for reference


http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,121914.0.html
* There's someone in my head, but it's not me.......
* Mr. Murphy was an optimist....
* There's a very fine line between Insanity and Genius.....
* My get up and go, must have got up and went.....

luftkoph

Some day never comes

mello dude

* There's someone in my head, but it's not me.......
* Mr. Murphy was an optimist....
* There's a very fine line between Insanity and Genius.....
* My get up and go, must have got up and went.....

Mooskee

Sorry, mine are sitting in the shop waiting till one of the bikes needs them.
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OttawaWill

Im interested in taking a set. Shipping to Canada??? Ottawa, Ontraio.

mello dude

Quote from: OttawaWill on Sun 26, Jun 2022, 18:44:25
Im interested in taking a set. Shipping to Canada??? Ottawa, Ontraio.

Check PM plz... :)
* There's someone in my head, but it's not me.......
* Mr. Murphy was an optimist....
* There's a very fine line between Insanity and Genius.....
* My get up and go, must have got up and went.....

Tazman11

Received mine. Looks like quality kit. I will be installing mine this winter.

Valker

Does anyone have the bearing number that would be needed? Maybe I'm just overlooking it.
I ride a motorcycle because nothing transports me as quickly from where I am to who I am.


mello dude

#20
Quote from: Tazman11 on Sun 31, Jul 2022, 16:21:11
https://www.amazon.com/Gates-T42015-Idler/dp/B000IVPEZM?pd_rd_w=Dq2ZS&content-id=amzn1.sym.bc622850-a717-4d94-96c3-7cc183488298&pf_rd_p=bc622850-a717-4d94-96c3-7cc183488298&pf_rd_r=BBXV376WKAZF1HESMCG4&pd_rd_wg=0xzha&pd_rd_r=19d6a439-35d5-4098-9df0-ed403e928614&pd_rd_i=B000IVPEZM&psc=1&ref_=pd_bap_d_rp_107_t

Here is what I ordered.

That's was I ordered too......it's really a Hyundai part made by Gates in Korea. (The country of origin on Amazon lists China,  but its wrong...).... Interesting that all the comments are Valkyrie or Gold Wing guys
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* Mr. Murphy was an optimist....
* There's a very fine line between Insanity and Genius.....
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97BLKVALK

Quote from: mello dude on Sun 26, Jun 2022, 12:19:27
Anybody do an install yet?  :)

Mike,

Already installed a week after receiving.  All worked well.

Michael
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mello dude

#23
Quote from: 97BLKVALK on Mon 01, Aug 2022, 10:21:56
Quote from: mello dude on Sun 26, Jun 2022, 12:19:27
Anybody do an install yet?  :)

Mike,

Already installed a week after receiving.  All worked well.

Michael

That's great, thank you for letting me know. Any photos ?
* There's someone in my head, but it's not me.......
* Mr. Murphy was an optimist....
* There's a very fine line between Insanity and Genius.....
* My get up and go, must have got up and went.....

Steven Bumpus

I'd like to get a set for winter maintenance.
2000 Tourer
2002 Shadow
2011 TriGlide

Umbra


mello dude

* There's someone in my head, but it's not me.......
* Mr. Murphy was an optimist....
* There's a very fine line between Insanity and Genius.....
* My get up and go, must have got up and went.....

longrider

I would be in for 1 set   Will you take paypal.

mello dude

#28
Quote from: longrider on Fri 12, Aug 2022, 17:04:22
I would be in for 1 set   Will you take paypal.
Check PM plz.....yes, PayPal is preferred.  Could take a check if needed.
* There's someone in my head, but it's not me.......
* Mr. Murphy was an optimist....
* There's a very fine line between Insanity and Genius.....
* My get up and go, must have got up and went.....

Jruby38

I will take a set. How much $, and how do I pay?

mello dude

#30
Quote from: Jruby38 on Fri 12, Aug 2022, 17:40:50
I will take a set. How much $, and how do I pay?

Check PM plz.
* There's someone in my head, but it's not me.......
* Mr. Murphy was an optimist....
* There's a very fine line between Insanity and Genius.....
* My get up and go, must have got up and went.....

Rosie

Clintonville WI 54929
1999 Valkyrie tourer
2003 Valkyrie standard

mello dude

* There's someone in my head, but it's not me.......
* Mr. Murphy was an optimist....
* There's a very fine line between Insanity and Genius.....
* My get up and go, must have got up and went.....

6adan

  I would thank these would fit the 1500 Goldwing too. You might want to go to Steve Sanders Forum and let them know about them. I am thanking they will also work on all of the wings from 1000 to 1500, haven't been able check that but they all look alike. Please send me a price also.
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mello dude

#34
Quote from: 6adan on Tue 16, Aug 2022, 07:41:29
 I would thank these would fit the 1500 Goldwing too. You might want to go to Steve Sanders Forum and let them know about them. I am thanking they will also work on all of the wings from 1000 to 1500, haven't been able check that but they all look alike. Please send me a price also.

Thank you for the heads up. Plz check PM.
* There's someone in my head, but it's not me.......
* Mr. Murphy was an optimist....
* There's a very fine line between Insanity and Genius.....
* My get up and go, must have got up and went.....

longrider

Are you able to supply bolts?, Bearings?.    If not what size bolts are you using?

Thanks
Warren

mello dude

Quote from: longrider on Thu 18, Aug 2022, 18:49:39
Are you able to supply bolts?, Bearings?.    If not what size bolts are you using?

Thanks
Warren

Bolts are included in a set, they are Hex Flange M10 x 1.25 thread, x 25mm long,  And matching nut, as in the photo above.
The bearings can be purchased from Amazon. If you want me to supply, we should take this to a PM.
* There's someone in my head, but it's not me.......
* Mr. Murphy was an optimist....
* There's a very fine line between Insanity and Genius.....
* My get up and go, must have got up and went.....

John Schmidt

Mike, I finally got around to installing those new tension pulley backing plates. Looks kind spiffy!  :cooldude:  Thanks for doing this, however I now have an old set of backing plates with bolts. Guess I'll hang onto them for now. 


mello dude

#38
Awesome  :cooldude:  - Thanks John for posting this up. I admit I do get a bit of a kick when I see my parts on guys bikes.  
* There's someone in my head, but it's not me.......
* Mr. Murphy was an optimist....
* There's a very fine line between Insanity and Genius.....
* My get up and go, must have got up and went.....

Mooskee

Quote from: John Schmidt on Fri 19, Aug 2022, 13:38:07
Mike, I finally got around to installing those new tension pulley backing plates. Looks kind spiffy!  :cooldude:  Thanks for doing this, however I now have an old set of backing plates with bolts. Guess I'll hang onto them for now. 



I agree it looks spiffy indeed. Nice.
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