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Viking Pipes?

Started by Jeff K, Wed 07, Apr 2010, 14:09:29

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Jeff K

What would the possibility be of getting enough buyers together to talk Justin & Andy into running another run of Viking pipes? Viking is no more but the design for the pipes is still there.
Any thoughts? Maybe there aren't enough of us wanting them to justify it, but maybe there are?

98valk

I tend to remember that this company http://ssheaders.com/  was actually the one who designed and made the headers/exhaust for them.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

shortleg


   Sounds good to me,but how many would we need.
Also at 1200 bucks how many would lineup?
    Wish I would have Asked Justen to make mine black.
Ceramic coating just will not last.
              Shortleg[Dave]

quexpress

Quote from: shortleg on Wed 07, Apr 2010, 18:11:15

   Sounds good to me,but how many would we need.
Also at 1200 bucks how many would lineup?
    Wish I would have Asked Justen to make mine black.
Ceramic coating just will not last.
              Shortleg[Dave]
Hey Dave!
After  you purchase new ones, please give me a holler! I have a nice home for your old pipes (for a fair price of course)!  8)
I still have a full deck.
I just shuffle slower ...

R J

#4
Quote from: shortleg on Wed 07, Apr 2010, 18:11:15

  Sounds good to me,but how many would we need.
Also at 1200 bucks how many would lineup?
   Wish I would have Asked Justen to make mine black.
Ceramic coating just will not last.
             Shortleg[Dave]

Hey Dave, I took mine to the powder coater and he made them silver.  Haven't got a picture of the bike, but do havethe mufflers on the Trike done the same way........



Okay, here is the ceramic coated headers and the powder coated muffler.   The little gold in between is actually a chrome strap, blame it on the flouresent lights.

44 Harley ServiCar




 


John U.

I might be able to convince myself, but for that kind of money I'd like to hear what others that have been running them have to say. I'd also like to hear the pipes or at least a sound file. Are they the ones dag is running? I've seen and heard a video of his bike, sounds good.
Also what carb modifications are needed?

Ratdog

#6
Quote from: John U. on Wed 07, Apr 2010, 22:07:40
I might be able to convince myself, but for that kind of money I'd like to hear what others that have been running them have to say. I'd also like to hear the pipes or at least a sound file. Are they the ones dag is running? I've seen and heard a video of his bike, sounds good.
Also what carb modifications are needed?

The only "down side" to them is (as Shortleg Dave reports) that the silver coating wears off and they  show signs of rust.  Other than the cosmetic degradation of 120,000 miles' worth of riding in the rain and salted winter roads and not having a garage for the bike to live in... they've been great.  A K&N filter with no prefilter, a needle kit, and a carb sync is all that's needed.  And, working on the bike is SOOOO much better when you can just pop the mufflers off and do what ya need to do.

They're not too bad here... pic was taken about 10,000 miles ago

Make yourselves sheep, and the wolves will eat you. - Benjamin Franklin. If it ain't Zesty, it's only a two-tone.

Larry

Can't do it this year as the budget is SHOT, but next year?  ???
To Ride or Not To Ride? RIDE of course!!!

fstsix

#8
Viking made a true performance exhaust, Ca. Coatings is right, SS has the best custom exhaust out there also, Had them custom made on my friends Acura V 6 Blown sand rail back in the 80's sweet, Thanks Dag for the video.Viking Exhaust

T.P.

Who is going to step up and make the call to S&S ?
"Well you can call me T, or you can call me P, or you can call me T.P. but you doesn't hasta call me Toilet Paper"

Jeff K

Quote from: CA ExhaustCoatings on Wed 07, Apr 2010, 14:40:02
I tend to remember that this company http://ssheaders.com/  was actually the one who designed and made the headers/exhaust for them.

Nope, they had them made locally. I talked to Justin. I still see him every now and then. And there did seem to be interest in making another run of the pipes.

dago mooserider

I'm a semi-new valk owner (less than a year) and have been frustrated by the lack of performance upgrades available for these bikes. I feel like I got in a little to late because viking went out of business. I'd give my first born for a set of their pipes. Count me in if for sure if we can get this going. Also would love to get in contact with those guys about who did the head work/cams on their valks.
98 valk, 2000 valk, 04 gsxr 750, 85 atc250r, 88 trx250r, 97 expedition (it's indestructible!), 12 civic si, 16 acura tlx, 18 f150.

98valk

Quote from: Jeff K on Thu 08, Apr 2010, 14:23:07
Quote from: CA ExhaustCoatings on Wed 07, Apr 2010, 14:40:02
I tend to remember that this company http://ssheaders.com/  was actually the one who designed and made the headers/exhaust for them.

Nope, they had them made locally. I talked to Justin. I still see him every now and then. And there did seem to be interest in making another run of the pipes.

glad that is finally cleared up. Thanks
somebody posted that about SSheaders when viking was first making the pipes and nobody ever posted otherwise until now.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

1FAST6

This is an option currently available from one of our members:

http://www.carolinabikeandtrike.com/Exhaust1.htm

I don't have them, but I've heard Matt's.  They sound great, but a bit too loud for me!

f6john

Quote from: 1FAST6 on Tue 13, Apr 2010, 13:13:14
This is an option currently available from one of our members:

http://www.carolinabikeandtrike.com/Exhaust1.htm

I don't have them, but I've heard Matt's.  They sound great, but a bit too loud for me!


I thought the last word was that these are currently not an option?????

Robert

If Viking is no longer there maybe there would be a discount on the price since there was a markup on the price and if we go direct it may be discounted to us if they would share their source. I may be interested in a set.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

Jeff K

Quote from: Robert on Tue 13, Apr 2010, 22:12:19
If Viking is no longer there maybe there would be a discount on the price since there was a markup on the price and if we go direct it may be discounted to us if they would share their source. I may be interested in a set.

Go direct to who?

Anthony

i was also informed that there was no way to get the viking pipes thru the old reseller.
but i am interested if a new batch would be made.
or if someone has a second hand set to sell...

i called to carolina bike & trike last year inquiring about their full set (not the slip-on muffler)
Matts problem was getting the header pipes produced, in an economic quantity.

its the same problem : the producer needs a big volume to have a production setup of 6 different header pipes affordable.

i am looking for an exhaust with bigger header pipes before getting blown.

if somebody is listening :
sign me up on a list, if you start counting.

Anthony

1FAST6

I know Matt quit making the complete exhaust and switched over to the slip-ons.  He's showing them on his site now, but I haven't talked to him in over a year.  I would think that if he's not making them he would take them off his site.  If you're serious you could contact him and let us all know fir sure.

dago mooserider

Any word on this? Jeff K, are you in contact with the (former) viking dudes? I'm located in San Diego, so I'm semi-local to where viking used to be. Maybe I can beg them In person and with cash to make another run of these?
98 valk, 2000 valk, 04 gsxr 750, 85 atc250r, 88 trx250r, 97 expedition (it's indestructible!), 12 civic si, 16 acura tlx, 18 f150.

Jeff K

Quote from: valk/gixxer rider on Tue 27, Apr 2010, 22:30:04
Any word on this? Jeff K, are you in contact with the (former) viking dudes? I'm located in San Diego, so I'm semi-local to where viking used to be. Maybe I can beg them In person and with cash to make another run of these?

I talked to them last night, they said they are working on getting enough people interested. I think they need 20 sets to make a run.

Anthony

what is the best way to contact them directly,
so that i can have my name added to their list ?
Anthony

Karmacursed

I'm anew Valk owner and would definately like to get on a list to get a set of these pipes. I have heard a lot about them, but neve been able to run across any for sale. Any updates on how to get put on the list or who to contact about this would be great.

dago mooserider

I've been keeping my fingers crossed for awhile about this. The Mark t pipes look like a nice alternative but it doesn't seem like they can match the 10-12 H.P. increase of the Vikings. I think the Viking pipes require a re-jet but my valk is already lean and needs it anyway.
98 valk, 2000 valk, 04 gsxr 750, 85 atc250r, 88 trx250r, 97 expedition (it's indestructible!), 12 civic si, 16 acura tlx, 18 f150.

Dag

I have Viking exhaust, and I did not get any HP increase with these mufflers. But I love the sound  :cooldude:

I dont think that any mufflers can give 10-12 HP increase if any increase at all.
Any technician with dyno experience will tell you that the best mufflers are no mufflers.
The most efficient mufflers can only employ the same scavenging effect as a header.
The best horsepower can be had with larger diameter headers and shorter primary tubes.
The question is not what you look at...but what you see...

humshark

I'll re-comb MarkT's (Horseapple.com) site, but I thought he had dyno runs posted.  He has a cross-fire option that helps boost performance as well.

I recently received a NEW set from Mark T's Horsapple Ranch and LOVE :cooldude: these pipes.  I never knew the valk could produce such a sweet low note.  I do not run trombones - But I do run both flavors - MILD and WILD.  Everywhere I go - I get complements on the note.

I run the dial-a-jets and will pull the plugs next week for a reading, but as of now, with a K/N, Dial-a-Jets and the MarkT's, this bike ROCKS!
99 Interstate
05 FJR
97 Vulcan '88' Hacked

dago mooserider

Dag, I could be wrong, but...... I thought that was exactly how the viking pipes made so much power, by increasing the primary header size and slightly shorting it.  Stock our valks do sound like a sewing machine, but straight up horsepower was my main desire for putting on viking (or other) pipes. MarkT's site does state a 6-11 h.p. increase (which is very respectable) but i could not find a dyno sheet. 
   
98 valk, 2000 valk, 04 gsxr 750, 85 atc250r, 88 trx250r, 97 expedition (it's indestructible!), 12 civic si, 16 acura tlx, 18 f150.

Slammer

HP increase with an exhaust system. Viking pipes are your only option. They are the only system you can get with larger dia. header tubes and they are tuned headers. I had Vikings on my first Valk and promise you they helped. I happened to inherit a set of 2Bros 6x2 with crossover tube exhaust for my second Valk and I know for sure that they aren't going to make anything for the Valk anymore. I have alot of mods done to my bike(p&p heads,ect) I run stock jets and needles with interstate springs. I dynoed my bike last month and had close to 108 hp but more important air /fuel was perfect up to 170 mph when the dyno shut off. I know my bike won't run near that fast on the street but it sure was cool to watch.

Slammer


humshark

I remembered an old thread where we were posting the dyno results and trying to nail down what was really being responsible for increases -
Here it is ( minus ) the charts unfortunately - but still fun to read -
http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,8496.0/wap2.html
99 Interstate
05 FJR
97 Vulcan '88' Hacked

96valk

I have Viking pipes on my full bagger.  Would like a set for the naked bike  Keep us posted if you can talk them into a production run. They are the only ones with larger and more equal length tubes.  Bob

98valk

1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

shortleg


  Thiiink you will find that is an old site.
Oz said they are no longer in business
and have not been for quite a while.
         Shortleg[Dave]

Jeff K

Quote from: shortleg on Thu 29, Jul 2010, 20:06:47

  Thiiink you will find that is an old site.
Oz said they are no longer in business
and have not been for quite a while.
         Shortleg[Dave]

I believe direct discount is the business that Andy went into after Viking closed. He is still at the same address.

shortleg

   Guess I will have to make a call Monday to see if I can get
him on the phone.
   I did call the number and got a tone from a fax.
  Don,t know if that is a good thing or not,both the phone and fax have same number.
           Shortleg[Dave]

Redline +

Quote from: Jeff K on Fri 30, Jul 2010, 06:14:20
Quote from: shortleg on Thu 29, Jul 2010, 20:06:47

  Thiiink you will find that is an old site.
Oz said they are no longer in business
and have not been for quite a while.
         Shortleg[Dave]

I believe direct discount is the business that Andy went into after Viking closed. He is still at the same address.

This is the response I just received from my e-mail to Direct Discount:  :)

yes, this is the correct place. I am one of the previous owners of Viking...and as a Valkyrie Rider myself have noticed that there are not too  many options left for the Valk...so me an my old business partners are planning on making another run...We are not currently at the point where we are going to do it soon...but we have all the balls in motion. If you are interested in the system...you will need to either purchase in the store and not complete the payment so i can get you on the list...or you can complete with payment...or you can call here and i can get you on the list that way...

Andy Manna
Direct Discount USA
909-949-1221


There ya go...get on the list for a new Viking exhaust system.  :cooldude:

Redline  8)

Karmacursed

Awesome, I'm going to try ang get on the list. Man, I hope this works out for the best. :D

dago mooserider

#37
I just spoke to Andy and got myself on the list. These things are not cheap, but horsepower never is..... Andy said they had a dozen or so interested but would likely need double that to make it worthwhile.  Put up or shut up valkyrie riders!  :cooldude:
98 valk, 2000 valk, 04 gsxr 750, 85 atc250r, 88 trx250r, 97 expedition (it's indestructible!), 12 civic si, 16 acura tlx, 18 f150.

98valk

Quote from: valk/gixxer rider on Fri 30, Jul 2010, 14:38:45
I just spoke to Andy and got myself on the list. These things are not cheap, but horsepower never is..... Andy said they had a dozen or so interested but would likely need double that to make it worthwhile.  Put up or shut up valkyrie riders!  :cooldude:

Was very happy when I was able to pick up a used set last yr for $400. The cans needed to be re-chromed which are getting done right now. triple chrome plated. 400-500 will be the final cost. The org cans did not have a cooper and nickel base and were peeling. The first thing out of the person who is coating them when he saw them said "these are from calif."  The headers need to be recoated. just had them sandblasted and will coat them with my ceramic coatings and then paint. when done will post pics. so my total cost will be 1k with lifetime chrome.

its good they are going to make more.
1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C  10speed
1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp

"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

f6john

Quote from: Slammer on Wed 28, Jul 2010, 18:50:39
HP increase with an exhaust system. Viking pipes are your only option. They are the only system you can get with larger dia. header tubes and they are tuned headers. I had Vikings on my first Valk and promise you they helped. I happened to inherit a set of 2Bros 6x2 with crossover tube exhaust for my second Valk and I know for sure that they aren't going to make anything for the Valk anymore. I have alot of mods done to my bike(p&p heads,ect) I run stock jets and needles with interstate springs. I dynoed my bike last month and had close to 108 hp but more important air /fuel was perfect up to 170 mph when the dyno shut off. I know my bike won't run near that fast on the street but it sure was cool to watch.

Slammer


   What kind of rpm was it cranking at 170mph!!!!!