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chill out on the personal assaults....

Started by musclehead, Fri 20, Dec 2013, 21:46:45

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musclehead

why the name calling? debate  but don't insult.

we are experiencing PMS, and will be for quite some time, try to get through this.


try to get your point across while using some obscure historical qoute like; if you feel someone is lying tell them they are 'guilty of terminological inexactitude'  8)
'in the tunnels uptown, the Rats own dream guns him down. the shots echo down them hallways in the night' - the Boss

BF

I can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to



Moonshot_1

Yeah, it's a real shame that some folks can't get out of the Jr. High mode.
The personal and vile stuff really is uncalled for.

Political stuff is fine. Policy debate is fine. Speaking your mind is welcomed.

Calling fellow members names and worse isn't. If you got to do that you got to grow up.

Mike Luken 


Cherokee, Ia.
Former Iowa Patriot Guard Ride Captain

Thunnar

Some people really like all the humiliation and being degraded though . . .   ???
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BF

Quote from: musclehead on Fri 20, Dec 2013, 21:46:45
why the name calling? debate  but don't insult.

we are experiencing PMS, and will be for quite some time, try to get through this.


try to get your point across while using some obscure historical qoute like; if you feel someone is lying tell them they are 'guilty of terminological inexactitude'  8)


Oh, now I see. 

I stayed out of "that" thread.  Could tell it was gonna go south pretty quick. 

It's a damn shame that the same one or two name calling, pot stirring antagonists can't keep it civil and then get their panties all bunched and their feelings hurt when someone calls them on their name calling bs. 

I'll bow out of this thread now.   :-X
I can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to



old2soon

The board had a warning on one particular thread and when the warning(s) went unheeded the boom was lowered. The personal attacks seem to continue no matter what is said or done. How hard is it to put on your big boy pants when you show up to play or comment or partake in the discussion?? This may or may not work BUT if you absolutely positively feel the overwhelming need to attack some one and you can not possibly function in your little corner of the world with out attacking some one this board offers o very nice and I might add-discreet way to accomplish that nefarious deed in PRIVATE. P M them-them being the ones you need to attack. And only the ones you feel the need to attack. I am positive with out a doubt that one of two things will transpire. The first is you 2 or 3 or how ever many can carry out your nastiness in private between consenting parties. The second thing that will happen is upon recognizing the sender it WILL be ignored and the rest can suffer thru P M S in relative peace. Nuther words-take yer B S private.  :cooldude: I done now.  :2funny: RIDE SAFE.
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junior

Quote from: Moonshot_1 on Fri 20, Dec 2013, 22:03:06
Yeah, it's a real shame that some folks can't get out of the Jr. High mode.
The personal and vile stuff really is uncalled for.

Political stuff is fine. Policy debate is fine. Speaking your mind is welcomed.

Calling fellow members names and worse isn't. If you got to do that you got to grow up.



dont drag my name into this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

MarkT

Guess I missed it.  Assuming it's not me.  Wait, I debated but didn't do personal attacks.  Maybe I missed it due to the "ignore fn". Never mind...

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alph

yeah, well you're all just dooddy heads!   :roll:   ;D
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Jeff K

PMS really? What the heck is that? Beautiful day for riding! Quit being a pansy ass, liberal, right wing nut job, teabagging, tinfoil hat wearin, backwoods hick, and go for a ride!

:2funny:

wiggydotcom

Quote from: Jeff K on Sat 21, Dec 2013, 06:38:27
PMS really? What the heck is that? Beautiful day for riding! Quit being a pansy ass, liberal, right wing nut job, teabagging, tinfoil hat wearin, backwoods hick, and go for a ride!

:2funny:

Hey, I resemble that remark!
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Momz

Is calling someone dumber than a "Box-O-Rocks" a personal attack, or telling someone to "take a rolling leap into oblivion" a personal attack?

If that offends you then I admit to being guiity and won't make apologies for my personal opinions.

ALWAYS QUESTION AUTHORITY! 

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Moonshot_1

This is my take on Message Boards like this one. A general opinion.

Let's take the example "You're dumber than a bunch of rocks"

Is this a personal attack?

If done in a public forum with the intent to assail someone's character and publicly belittle them, absolutely. This will obviously lead to a similar response of some kind and the conversation rapidly gets toxic.

If the need to assail someone's character becomes irresistible, do it privately, through a private message or email.

Making the conversation toxic is an insult to all involved in the conversation, not just the intended target as it lowers the standards of the conversation to nothing more than a grade school spat.

Mix that with the inherent dynamic of message board conversations where you can easily misinterpret postings, miss intended sarcasms, and not have the benefit of seeing a person's body language and expressions, and even a simple conversation can go south quickly. Personal insults and assailing someone's character just does it even faster.

I strive to not insert personal attacks on anyone. I try to stick to the topic or policy at hand and not assail someone's character. I'm sure I have on occasion, failed in the past. Sitting behind a keyboard, it is easy to let things rip. It takes effort to control that.

But it's not that hard to do.
Mike Luken 


Cherokee, Ia.
Former Iowa Patriot Guard Ride Captain

Hoser

I don't want a pickle, just wanna ride my motor sickle

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Valkorado

Quote from: Moonshot_1 on Sat 21, Dec 2013, 09:28:15
This is my take on Message Boards like this one. A general opinion.

Let's take the example "You're dumber than a bunch of rocks"

Is this a personal attack?

If done in a public forum with the intent to assail someone's character and publicly belittle them, absolutely. This will obviously lead to a similar response of some kind and the conversation rapidly gets toxic.

If the need to assail someone's character becomes irresistible, do it privately, through a private message or email.

Making the conversation toxic is an insult to all involved in the conversation, not just the intended target as it lowers the standards of the conversation to nothing more than a grade school spat.

Mix that with the inherent dynamic of message board conversations where you can easily misinterpret postings, miss intended sarcasms, and not have the benefit of seeing a person's body language and expressions, and even a simple conversation can go south quickly. Personal insults and assailing someone's character just does it even faster.

I strive to not insert personal attacks on anyone. I try to stick to the topic or policy at hand and not assail someone's character. I'm sure I have on occasion, failed in the past. Sitting behind a keyboard, it is easy to let things rip. It takes effort to control that.

But it's not that hard to do.

:cooldude:  What he said!
Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good,
there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood?
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dreamchaser

tis the season to be jolly, fala lala la la la la la......

BF

Quote from: dreamchaser on Sat 21, Dec 2013, 10:26:03
tis the season to be jolly, fala lala la la la la la......

Exactly.  Need less of that and more of this.....

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I can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to



Dogg

Ya'll dont get it. Its a message board. People sitting behind monitors using a keyboard to communicate. I act the same way on my computer as i do in person. Dont change who you are.
 Remember this would you say the same thing if the discussion was at a big ol table in someones barn? Would you insult someone to thier face having a discussion at a bar? I think not. I think that keyboard courage have made alot of peeps more verbal because it depersonalizes the conversation or topic of discussion.

Clark

its really QUITE SIMPLE ..YOU A$$HOLES need to stop calling other people names.. GETTIT??? GOTTIT???  GOOD :tickedoff: :tickedoff:

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musclehead

Quote from: Jeff K on Sat 21, Dec 2013, 06:38:27
PMS really? What the heck is that? Beautiful day for riding! Quit being a pansy ass, liberal, right wing nut job, teabagging, tinfoil hat wearin, backwoods hick, and go for a ride!

:2funny:
it's going to be mid-upper 80's today  8) I might just do that  :2funny:
'in the tunnels uptown, the Rats own dream guns him down. the shots echo down them hallways in the night' - the Boss

LTD

Lets bring the boxing gloves to the next Inzane and settle all these personal attacks.  That would be hilarious all these guys in their 50s, 60s, and 70s going at it good times!! lmao

alph

Quote from: Dogg on Sat 21, Dec 2013, 10:45:12
Ya'll dont get it. Its a message board. People sitting behind monitors using a keyboard to communicate.

yeah, what else am I suppose to do at work?   :evil:
Promote world peace, ban all religion.

Ride Safe, Ride Often!!  :cooldude:

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It's all about being a keyboard commando.
 
Type and duck and hide behind the monitor.  :tickedoff:

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Quoteyeah, well you're all just dooddy heads!

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at least spell it "doodie-head"!! :roll:
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Bighead

Although I personally have not attacked anyone here I can say that I belong to a knife collectors forum (2of them) and this goes on not only here but anywhere people start talking religion or politics.
I went and looked at the top of the header on this Forum and it said VRCC so how's about talkin scooters? That is why we all came here to start with our love of the motorcycle. Do I agree with all comments not at all but won't attack someone here for something I don't agree with. Just my .02
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Jess from VA

Re: chill out on the personal assaults....

An assault is an attempted battery (hitting), or putting someone in immediate fear of a battery (threat to harm...not merely verbally abuse).

To assault you here, I'd need to post (convincingly) that I was definitely coming to your house to punch your nose, or worse.

No one gets assaulted here.

Personal verbal attacks and insults is what we're talking about.

So get as animated as you want about the topic of the post, just don't call the other guy names.

IE:

Good:  Dude, your argument/point/position sucks because...........  :cooldude:

Bad:    Dude, you suck.   :evil:




Bighead

Quote from: ~ Timbrwolf on Sat 21, Dec 2013, 16:11:28
.....Hey BigHead..I used to collect knives years ago. Any Idea how much a Blackie Collins "Frisco Shiv" ...Boot Knife...new in the box ...made by Gerber is worth these daze ? ..  :coolsmiley:
No but send me a picture and I will find out. Probably went up in value since Blackie died :'(
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1999 Interstate (sold)
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Clark

Quote from: Bighead on Sat 21, Dec 2013, 17:35:20
Quote from: ~ Timbrwolf on Sat 21, Dec 2013, 16:11:28
.....Hey BigHead..I used to collect knives years ago. Any Idea how much a Blackie Collins "Frisco Shiv" ...Boot Knife...new in the box ...made by Gerber is worth these daze ? ..  :coolsmiley:
No but send me a picture and I will find out. Probably went up in value since Blackie died :'(
RACIST :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff:............................................... :2funny:

john


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musclehead

Quote from: Jess from VA on Sat 21, Dec 2013, 17:34:51
Re: chill out on the personal assaults....

An assault is an attempted battery (hitting), or putting someone in immediate fear of a battery (threat to harm...not merely verbally abuse).

To assault you here, I'd need to post (convincingly) that I was definitely coming to your house to punch your nose, or worse.

No one gets assaulted here.

Personal verbal attacks and insults is what we're talking about.

So get as animated as you want about the topic of the post, just don't call the other guy names.

IE:

Good:  Dude, your argument/point/position sucks because...........  :cooldude:

Bad:    Dude, you suck.   :evil:





sez the JAG  :roll:  geez gots to be so exact in the vocabulary  around here  :2funny:
'in the tunnels uptown, the Rats own dream guns him down. the shots echo down them hallways in the night' - the Boss

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Regis

sorry but I reserve the right to personally assault myself whenever I choose !

Hoser

Quote from: Clark on Sat 21, Dec 2013, 19:14:58
Quote from: Bighead on Sat 21, Dec 2013, 17:35:20
Quote from: ~ Timbrwolf on Sat 21, Dec 2013, 16:11:28
.....Hey BigHead..I used to collect knives years ago. Any Idea how much a Blackie Collins "Frisco Shiv" ...Boot Knife...new in the box ...made by Gerber is worth these daze ? ..  :coolsmiley:
No but send me a picture and I will find out. Probably went up in value since Blackie died :'(
RACIST :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff:............................................... :2funny:
Yer killing me, Clark, watch your self, Supperman might be watching!  ;D ;D ;D hoser  :angel:
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Jess from VA

Quote from: musclehead on Sat 21, Dec 2013, 22:18:20
Quote from: Jess from VA on Sat 21, Dec 2013, 17:34:51
Re: chill out on the personal assaults....

An assault is an attempted battery (hitting), or putting someone in immediate fear of a battery (threat to harm...not merely verbally abuse).

To assault you here, I'd need to post (convincingly) that I was definitely coming to your house to punch your nose, or worse.

No one gets assaulted here.

Personal verbal attacks and insults is what we're talking about.

So get as animated as you want about the topic of the post, just don't call the other guy names.

IE:

Good:  Dude, your argument/point/position sucks because...........  :cooldude:

Bad:    Dude, you suck.   :evil:





sez the JAG  :roll:  geez gots to be so exact in the vocabulary  around here  :2funny:

MH, it was not simply for wordsmith accuracy, I posted that because while arguments can go too far, no one has been assaulted on here.  We don't need to be like the MSM and blow things up and make them worse than they are.  That was my intent.

musclehead

Quote from: Jess from VA on Sun 22, Dec 2013, 10:50:06
Quote from: musclehead on Sat 21, Dec 2013, 22:18:20
Quote from: Jess from VA on Sat 21, Dec 2013, 17:34:51
Re: chill out on the personal assaults....

An assault is an attempted battery (hitting), or putting someone in immediate fear of a battery (threat to harm...not merely verbally abuse).

To assault you here, I'd need to post (convincingly) that I was definitely coming to your house to punch your nose, or worse.

No one gets assaulted here.

Personal verbal attacks and insults is what we're talking about.

So get as animated as you want about the topic of the post, just don't call the other guy names.

IE:

Good:  Dude, your argument/point/position sucks because...........  :cooldude:

Bad:    Dude, you suck.   :evil:





sez the JAG  :roll:  geez gots to be so exact in the vocabulary  around here  :2funny:

MH, it was not simply for wordsmith accuracy, I posted that because while arguments can go too far, no one has been assaulted on here.  We don't need to be like the MSM and blow things up and make them worse than they are.  That was my intent.

I agree, was teasing ya  :cooldude:
'in the tunnels uptown, the Rats own dream guns him down. the shots echo down them hallways in the night' - the Boss

Patrick

Well, was all this what you expected ?