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A transcript from the Rush Limbaugh show for your consideration. However, before you read it, remember that Obama just unveiled his ObamaLaw plan.... http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/02/obama-unveils-national-obamalaw-plan/Transcript from the Rush show........ RUSH: John in Belleville, Pennsylvania, next up. Open Line Friday. How's it going? CALLER: Hello, Rush. It's a thrill and an honor to get to talk to you. RUSH: Thank you, sir, very much. I'm glad you made it through. CALLER: First, I do want to say that that 90-something percent accuracy figure is incorrect. I've listened and I believe you're 100%. RUSH: Well, you're very kind, sir. CALLER: Now, my question -- and I know I'll sound like a kook. But assuming the Democrats can't come up with anybody decent to win the presidency and the powers that push Obama's buttons tell him to stay as president or stay on because of some created crisis, how in the world do we get him out of there? The Republicans don't have the gall to do it, and I think the Supreme Court is pretty well left-leaning at this point. So how do we get rid of Obama if he decides to stay? RUSH: Let's put this in a scenario, because some of you might be thinking, "All right, Rush, you're going too far now. All you guys thinking Obama's doing this and doing that, he's violating the Constitution. He would never do that!" Well, let's construct a scenario and see if it has even the slightest bit of believability, and let's establish some things that we know to be true that Obama also knows. Chief among those is that the Republican Party has said that impeachment is off the table. More than once they've said this. The Republican Party has made it clear that they will not use that constitutional measure as a means of reining Obama in, and maybe even getting him out of office. They have also made it very clear in just the most recent vote on the funding for Department of Homeland Security that they will not use the power of the purse to stop Obama. Okay, so those duo realities equal Obama fully aware the Republican Party will take no steps to stop him in his ongoing violations and running up to the edges of the Constitution. Now, let's fast forward to, say, May, June of 2016. Let's say that Mrs. Clinton has withstood all of this e-mail stuff, that Elizabeth Warren has not gotten in the race, that Algore took the temperature and decided not to go, that it's just Mrs. Clinton and Joe Biden. On the other side, the Republican field has a great list of possible candidates, and they will have by that time engaged in a vigorous debate which may have served to educate the country on the foibles and the problems of the past eight years, and the country may be looking forward to a dramatic change to Republican in the election of 2016. Obama fully aware of this, would go on television and say that the Democrat field is so weak that he's not confident that Mrs. Clinton can win. He might even take steps to make sure she can't win. You know, sabotage her campaign. And then call a national speech to the nation in which the main point is that it's beginning to look like the Republicans will win the White House, and this is something that he can't risk. Not after eight courageous years of transforming America! We just cannot put it all to the risk of being unraveled and undone by these racist, sexist, misogynist, whatever else Republicans. So as a service to the nation and to the nation, he is going to forget the Twenty-Second Amendment and either not leave office or run for reelection himself as the Democrat nominee. Just imagine that scenario. I don't care how unreal it sounds, how unbelievable it sounds. Imagine it. What would anybody do? What would Mitch McConnell do? What would John Boehner do? Mark Levin would have a heart attack. I would probably have an aneurysm. We'd be done. What would anybody do? The Supreme Court would say, "Nobody has standing here! There's no case yet. Obama hasn't done anything yet. We can't do anything about this until he actually serves a third term, and then you gotta bring the case to us." What would anybody do if he says this? The media would be cheering it. Put all this in the mix. This guy's out there thinking about this. It's hard to believe, it's so unlikely, but don't think... Obama's planning on staying in Washington part of time. He's got a plan to continue to live in Washington after he has left office for that exact reason. Whoever the next president is, Republican or Democrat, if that next president starts to unravel any of this, Obama's on television every night. He knows he's gonna have the media in his back pocket and whoever the next president is will not get away with anything without a huge fight from Obama. What would the Republicans do? (interruption) I think the odds are the Republicans might call an emergency constitutional convention and amend the Twenty-Second Amendment, permitting Obama to do this because their fear of being critical of Obama would destroy their chances of winning with the independents. END TRANSCRIPT |
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2015, 07:26:24 PM » |
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IMHO, it would then be incumbent on the Joint Chiefs of Staff to obey their oath of office.
However, I can see no scenario where Zero gets to serve a third term. (Unless of course, he's the only alleged US Citizen 35 or over left alive)
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2015, 07:37:56 PM » |
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I have mentioned this two times on this forum and I'm really worried that this idiot will try to pull a third term off. I don't trust him and nobody in congress will challenge him. We will be in deep poop if it happens. There still enough idiots around to vote him in again.
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2015, 07:49:00 PM » |
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IMHO, it would then be incumbent on the Joint Chiefs of Staff to obey their oath of office.
However, I can see no scenario where Zero gets to serve a third term. (Unless of course, he's the only alleged US Citizen 35 or over left alive)
Joint Chiefs? Really? the obuminater has been getting rid of the senior officers he THINKS would go against him. Most of the supreme court in his pocket repubs are scared of him-WHY-I KNOW not-and the lame stream media likes him. This is where I need the puking emotion. The obuminater has AREADY took a dump on the constitution-this would be more of the same-nudder words-business as usual. RIDE SAFE. |
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2015, 07:55:17 PM » |
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IMHO, it would then be incumbent on the citizens of the U.S. To remove him from office.
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2015, 08:07:52 PM » |
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IMHO, it would then be incumbent on the citizens of the U.S. To remove him from office.
Agreed. Even our current SCOTUS would still be no worse than 5-4 against a third term. And as fruit loops as Ginsberg, Sotomayor, and Kagan are (and Kennedy can be), I don't think even they would vote to allow a third term either. An attempt for a third term would get stopped in infancy before it could ever get off the ground. Not that Zero doesn't dream about it while it smoking his bong on the golf course. |
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2015, 08:14:13 PM » |
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I really don't think he'd be interested in a 3rd term. Having to deal with all that work stuff might cut into his golf time.
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2015, 08:21:16 PM » |
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Constitution is irrelevant with this turkey. He will merely use his Executive Order powers to appoint himself to a third term and I guarantee you he could get by with it.
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2015, 08:48:39 PM » |
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Lifetime pension
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2015, 05:12:04 AM » |
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I don't think he wants a third term either, I think wants to crowned king for life.
There are some crazy democrats trying to repeal that amendment, but, they have also tried it in the past.
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2015, 06:25:50 AM » |
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An attempt like this by any President (either party) would throw this country into a civil war.
It ain't gonna happen, no way, no how.
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2015, 07:06:04 AM » |
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Will it happen? I do not know.
Can it happen? Yes
Are the Democrats stupid enough to try it? Yes
Would it be resisted? Yes probably by the people, probably not really by the Politicians
Does anyone really know what will happen? No
Could it be a good thing? Maybe as it would bring this whole political mess to a head now
Could it bad bad thing? I suspect that it would get really ugly, really quick, and there is no telling what the United States would be like in the aftermath.
Any right thinking person would not want it to happen and would not do anything to start the process.
But then no one ever said liberal Democrat had any sense.
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2015, 07:09:45 AM » |
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Didn't anyone here take American Government in High School ?
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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2015, 07:19:27 AM » |
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Lifetime pension
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millions in his pocket
He will go off laughing to mecca or chicago
He has set himself up for life. No more having to deal with Boner and Big Mc. He will be rolling in cash and laughing at all the ''little people" who don't have any. Probably complaining about high tax brackets also. He will still be the media darling so that will satisfy his ego more than the cash will. |
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2015, 07:28:54 AM » |
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Didn't anyone here take American Government in High School ?
I think we're all familiar with the twenty-second amendment to the Constitution. The point being that the current president has shown outright contempt for the Constitution over and over again, and has been allowed to get away with ignoring it over and over again, so what's to stop him from ignoring it once again if he so chooses... |
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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2015, 07:40:29 AM » |
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I dont really think he would. The wookie dosent like living in our White House prison.
Imagine having to listen to that.
Also, the tree of liberty would be watered.
The occupy set would freak right out if martial law were enacted and their rights were suspended.
Just gotsta be that way.
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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2015, 08:08:55 AM » |
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Recall the rank and file of the military is not in his corner. Seals, Kyle-qualified etc. I'm thinking if he doesn't leave by term limits he might be removed. Forcably if necessary. Of course any such patriots need to consider the disaster of his chain-of-command replacement - rational thought. Shotgun Joe is the Secret Service's best insurance protecting their boss. Whatever Oswald was thinking, LBJ replaced Kennedy. Not an improvement I'm thinking. Of course Oswald was a kook. Forcably ending the dictator's rule is a rational act, while assassins are (generally) irrational. But then recall the attempt on Hitler's rule by the Valkyrie conspiracy. They were rational.
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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2015, 08:56:21 AM » |
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Didn't anyone here take American Government in High School ?
I think we're all familiar with the twenty-second amendment to the Constitution. The point being that the current president has shown outright contempt for the Constitution over and over again, and has been allowed to get away with ignoring it over and over again, so what's to stop him from ignoring it once again if he so chooses... And don't forget that he does have that pen and a phone.....and he's not afraid to use it.  I dont really think he would. The wookie dosent like living in our White House prison.
Imagine having to listen to that.
Also, the tree of liberty would be watered.
The occupy set would freak right out if martial law were enacted and their rights were suspended.
Just gotsta be that way.
Are you kidding me? Queen Moochelle absolutely loves loves loves living in our White House. She's treated like a queen...and don't forget the never ending expense free jet setting vacations the world over. You really think she's ready to give all of that up? |
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2015, 11:27:02 AM » |
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When she said it was like a prison, I about spit out my teeth.
YEA I'M KIDDING YOU!!!!!
To her mind, she's finally getting the treatment she deserves, so rightly deserves.
Remember after that she had to go to Target to show she was just like us.
Where some racist granny asked her to get a box off the top shelf for her.
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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2015, 07:41:57 AM » |
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Didn't anyone here take American Government in High School ?
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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2015, 08:31:43 AM » |
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Didn't anyone here take American Government in High School ?
Meathead, are you as amazed as I am? THE question here is has the obuminater taken American Government in High School?  RIDE SAFE. |
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2015, 09:10:53 AM » |
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Didn't anyone here take American Government in High School ?
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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2015, 01:41:38 PM » |
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Didn't anyone here take American Government in High School ?
Meathead, are you as amazed as I am? I wish I was, but not anymore ??? I think i need to see my doctor. My neck is hurting from shaking my head all the time while reading these posts. Good thing it's probably covered by Obamacare... |
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Didn't anyone here take American Government in High School ?
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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2015, 03:08:15 PM » |
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No it's not. It's a discussion I'm having on a comment thread. This board seems to have an over-abundance of Obama detractors, I'm just coming from the other side.
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« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2015, 04:01:10 PM » |
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Ok... Ill take the bait...... I voted twice for the fellow and if you look at numbers, economy is at its best in MANY years..... unemployment is now at its lowest rate since 1978- I could go on but thats just couple of things..... He has also been the most successful in fulfilling his campaign and platform issues of any president since Regan......
SO lets look at the argument that The President (yes he is Mr Obama and I feel that the president should Always be respected.. even if you don't like what he's done.... I was brought up better and learned manners) a Emperor wanna be, and shots on OUR constitution on a regular basis...
Where has it been proven, other than the media, pundits, lobbyists, and haters that Mr Obama has violated the Constitution??? please state the Court case or prosecutorial evidence..... Have he been impeached?
Has there been any legal action- other than harsh rhetoric, that he has done ANYTHING illegal??? Or anything that any other president has done in office? Including those that have been impeached? Is there any proof he is a closet Muslim?
Mr Obama has issued Less executive orders that any president in the last 20+ years... I believe he's at just under 200 where as Bush was 291 and Clinton ordered had 364 while in office.... Teddy Roosevelt ordered 1081!! FDR was 3522... But he did have a war and a severe depression...... Which by the way we avoided one recently through decisions made by and during this administration.....
As far as FOX (fake) News.... before they came around you never heard the office of the president so disrespected...... even when the president was a crook and had to leave office... Walter Cronkite never called the president names (traitor, wanna be King, OBummer, etc) this is a news service by owned by a man who got his start running tabloid trash publications..... who also has pending possibly legal actions against him.
People like Rush Limbaugh are media whores that will say anything to gain and keep an audience to make money...... If he was such a patriot, why did he not serve? Why does he not run for office?
What are his qualifications to drive political issues? Did you know that he dropped out/Flunked out of college?? That he has only basically has been a disc jockey and talk show host his entire working life... That he has been to rehab multiple times and has lied about his drug issues.... He originally turned himself in for prescription fraud...... but he had good lawyer and a ton of money and it was expunged from his record.... most of us would have gotten prosecuted and paid some penalty, I'll bet.
Basically he is getting Paid a crap ton of money to stir the pot and has been anointed by the media as an "Authority" who has done nothing but talk and has never acted...... The closest to any real political experience is the fact that his Dad was a judge.....
All I say is, do some research and you'll see that most respected Media institutions- New York Times, Washington Post, etc. don't repeat much of whats said on TV media.. you need to take multiple "unbiased" sources into account... funny thing is a lot of what these people say doesn't look so conservative....
Let me stop there and let the discussion continue......
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« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2015, 04:02:08 PM » |
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Wow. Another blind denier.
Most everyone on this board has their eyes open. Pay attention to actual news reports - NOT the spin of the lamestream media aka MSNBC. Try it. I know it's depressing and a shock to not watch the world thru rose-colored glasses. I've had to stop monitoring the news all day long, it's just too depressing. Especially when I think of the legacy - DEBT - we are leaving our progeny. (I get my news from a multitude of sources, including Fox, CBS, ABC, and multiple online sources. Most everyone except the liars at MSNBC) Maybe you could ease into it by just watching say O'Reilly's report after the evening news shows, on Fox. Then once you understand a bit about the CRAP fed to you by the Liar in Chief and the lamestream media in his pocket, you will actually become an informed voter, and will be able to absorb some other truthful and balanced news reports.
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Ok... Ill take the bait...... I voted twice for the fellow and if you look at numbers, economy is at its best in MANY years..... unemployment is now at its lowest rate since 1978- I could go on but thats just couple of things..... He has also been the most successful in fulfilling his campaign and platform issues of any president since Regan......
SO lets look at the argument that The President (yes he is Mr Obama and I feel that the president should Always be respected.. even if you don't like what he's done.... I was brought up better and learned manners) a Emperor wanna be, and shots on OUR constitution on a regular basis...
Where has it been proven, other than the media, pundits, lobbyists, and haters that Mr Obama has violated the Constitution??? please state the Court case or prosecutorial evidence..... Have he been impeached?
Has there been any legal action- other than harsh rhetoric, that he has done ANYTHING illegal??? Or anything that any other president has done in office? Including those that have been impeached? Is there any proof he is a closet Muslim?
Mr Obama has issued Less executive orders that any president in the last 20+ years... I believe he's at just under 200 where as Bush was 291 and Clinton ordered had 364 while in office.... Teddy Roosevelt ordered 1081!! FDR was 3522... But he did have a war and a severe depression...... Which by the way we avoided one recently through decisions made by and during this administration.....
As far as FOX (fake) News.... before they came around you never heard the office of the president so disrespected...... even when the president was a crook and had to leave office... Walter Cronkite never called the president names (traitor, wanna be King, OBummer, etc) this is a news service by owned by a man who got his start running tabloid trash publications..... who also has pending possibly legal actions against him.
People like Rush Limbaugh are media whores that will say anything to gain and keep an audience to make money...... If he was such a patriot, why did he not serve? Why does he not run for office?
What are his qualifications to drive political issues? Did you know that he dropped out/Flunked out of college?? That he has only basically has been a disc jockey and talk show host his entire working life... That he has been to rehab multiple times and has lied about his drug issues.... He originally turned himself in for prescription fraud...... but he had good lawyer and a ton of money and it was expunged from his record.... most of us would have gotten prosecuted and paid some penalty, I'll bet.
Basically he is getting Paid a crap ton of money to stir the pot and has been anointed by the media as an "Authority" who has done nothing but talk and has never acted...... The closest to any real political experience is the fact that his Dad was a judge.....
All I say is, do some research and you'll see that most respected Media institutions- New York Times, Washington Post, etc. don't repeat much of whats said on TV media.. you need to take multiple "unbiased" sources into account... funny thing is a lot of what these people say doesn't look so conservative....
Let me stop there and let the discussion continue......
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« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2015, 04:20:35 PM » |
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Wow. Another blind denier.
Most everyone on this board has their eyes open. Pay attention to actual news reports - NOT the spin of the lamestream media aka MSNBC. Try it. I know it's depressing and a shock to not watch the world thru rose-colored glasses. I've had to stop monitoring the news all day long, it's just too depressing. Especially when I think of the legacy - DEBT - we are leaving our progeny. (I get my news from a multitude of sources, including Fox, CBS, ABC, and multiple online sources. Most everyone except the liars at MSNBC) Maybe you could ease into it by just watching say O'Reilly's report after the evening news shows, on Fox. Then once you understand a bit about the CRAP fed to you by the Liar in Chief and the lamestream media in his pocket, you will actually become an informed voter, and will be able to absorb some other truthful and balanced news reports.
The O'Reilly that said he was reporting from a war zone ? The O'Reilly that said he was ringing the doorbell of Oswald's buddy when he committed suicide ? Somebody who repeatedly lies and exaggerates is pretty hard to take seriously. |
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Ok... Ill take the bait...... I voted twice for the fellow and if you look at numbers, economy is at its best in MANY years..... unemployment is now at its lowest rate since 1978- I could go on but thats just couple of things..... He has also been the most successful in fulfilling his campaign and platform issues of any president since Regan......
SO lets look at the argument that The President (yes he is Mr Obama and I feel that the president should Always be respected.. even if you don't like what he's done.... I was brought up better and learned manners) a Emperor wanna be, and shots on OUR constitution on a regular basis...
Where has it been proven, other than the media, pundits, lobbyists, and haters that Mr Obama has violated the Constitution??? please state the Court case or prosecutorial evidence..... Have he been impeached?
Has there been any legal action- other than harsh rhetoric, that he has done ANYTHING illegal??? Or anything that any other president has done in office? Including those that have been impeached? Is there any proof he is a closet Muslim?
Mr Obama has issued Less executive orders that any president in the last 20+ years... I believe he's at just under 200 where as Bush was 291 and Clinton ordered had 364 while in office.... Teddy Roosevelt ordered 1081!! FDR was 3522... But he did have a war and a severe depression...... Which by the way we avoided one recently through decisions made by and during this administration.....
As far as FOX (fake) News.... before they came around you never heard the office of the president so disrespected...... even when the president was a crook and had to leave office... Walter Cronkite never called the president names (traitor, wanna be King, OBummer, etc) this is a news service by owned by a man who got his start running tabloid trash publications..... who also has pending possibly legal actions against him.
People like Rush Limbaugh are media whores that will say anything to gain and keep an audience to make money...... If he was such a patriot, why did he not serve? Why does he not run for office?
What are his qualifications to drive political issues? Did you know that he dropped out/Flunked out of college?? That he has only basically has been a disc jockey and talk show host his entire working life... That he has been to rehab multiple times and has lied about his drug issues.... He originally turned himself in for prescription fraud...... but he had good lawyer and a ton of money and it was expunged from his record.... most of us would have gotten prosecuted and paid some penalty, I'll bet.
Basically he is getting Paid a crap ton of money to stir the pot and has been anointed by the media as an "Authority" who has done nothing but talk and has never acted...... The closest to any real political experience is the fact that his Dad was a judge.....
All I say is, do some research and you'll see that most respected Media institutions- New York Times, Washington Post, etc. don't repeat much of whats said on TV media.. you need to take multiple "unbiased" sources into account... funny thing is a lot of what these people say doesn't look so conservative....
Let me stop there and let the discussion continue......
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Somebody who repeatedly lies and exaggerates is pretty hard to take seriously.
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« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2015, 04:49:02 PM » |
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Wow Mark..... lets keep it to a discussion, not a personal hit.... Blind denier???? I mainly do not watch any particular mainstream media, I get my info from major news agency's, print, books, political publication etc... I do not watch MSNBC on a regular basis... I get almost all of my info from sources other than TV..... not to say that ALL media do have their purpose and informational content.. you have to look at more than one to get the facts, and even then its not always clear. All Im saying is that Fox news is an agency that has had to release the most retractions of any major news agency in the last 20 years.... that a majority of their in formed and unbiased reporters are not journalists that have no real experience in journalism... Brian Williams at least had the balls to tell everyone that he embellished a story..... but was he in a War Zone? Yes. Was he in a helicopter in a group that others were fired upon? Yes. Did one of those helicopters get hit and have to set down? Yes. When Bill OReilly Covered the Falklands war he was 1100 miles from the actual war Zone in a capital city that never came under military action.... has he admitted that he "embellished his story? No..... But we have all told Fish/War stories.. and they always get better with time and our point of view... At least Mr Williams came out and fessed up... Has Rush Limbaugh ever done and reporting other than from his chair in a radio or TV booth? Has he gone out and interviewed and researched many of the things he says? Doesn't look like it.... Are you saying that the president is now SOO powerful that he controls 80% or more of the media in this country... and only Fox News in not under his control? What are the facts/proof to support this claim? Especially when he can't sneak a smoke on the porch without getting busted.... I any case this is my opinion based on research and reading that I have done and the facts that I have listed.... You are welcome to yours and I thank you for that..... Its still a free country.... But to automatically call me a "blind denier" is a bit hasty... and a bit not impolite.... but thats why we have free speech.... But i am listening and if your facts an arguments can sway me to do so.. then i might... Hell I run darkside now and i swore that i would never risk a flaming death when I first heard about it....  SO once again... what facts do you have that the president has sone anything against the constitution? Anything illegal and not mandated/allowed by the laws of this country? That he controls the media? Oh and by the way.. All Presidents and Politicians lie to a point.... has been that way since the Pharisees.. and way before..... And lets keep this a civil discussion Brad |
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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2015, 04:51:58 PM » |
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Hell, I didn't know nothin' about this till I heard it on the news!
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Okay, lets look at the original argument that The president and the Democrats or the Republicans could would push thru an amendment to allow a 3rd term... or 4th or 5th for the future King of America...
The average time to get an amendment passed is over 300 days...Many have gone over 1700 so basically the republicans would have to start now and get 2/3rds of Both Housed to propose it
Then get 3/4 of the state legislatures to reify it....
In this day and age can any of you actually see this happening?????... and more to the point... in any amendment the President can have no role other than to state his opinion..... it must be proposed by congress.. he cannot start the process or propose an amendment....
This is per the laws to amend the Constitution...... took me 3 min to look it up..... Did anyone else? Did Rush??? Obviously not.....
So does this make a logical argument?
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« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2015, 05:05:03 PM » |
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SO once again... what facts do you have that the president has sone anything against the constitution? Anything illegal and not mandated/allowed by the laws of this country?
Here's a start. https://www.committeeforjustice.org/content/25-violations-law-president-obama-and-his-administration |
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« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2015, 05:07:08 PM » |
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Wow. Another blind denier.
Most everyone on this board has their eyes open. Pay attention to actual news reports - NOT the spin of the lamestream media aka MSNBC. Try it. I know it's depressing and a shock to not watch the world thru rose-colored glasses. I've had to stop monitoring the news all day long, it's just too depressing. Especially when I think of the legacy - DEBT - we are leaving our progeny. (I get my news from a multitude of sources, including Fox, CBS, ABC, and multiple online sources. Most everyone except the liars at MSNBC) Maybe you could ease into it by just watching say O'Reilly's report after the evening news shows, on Fox. Then once you understand a bit about the CRAP fed to you by the Liar in Chief and the lamestream media in his pocket, you will actually become an informed voter, and will be able to absorb some other truthful and balanced news reports.
The O'Reilly that said he was reporting from a war zone ? The O'Reilly that said he was ringing the doorbell of Oswald's buddy when he committed suicide ? Somebody who repeatedly lies and exaggerates is pretty hard to take seriously. O'Reilly is the most popular cable news show BY FAR per the viewer polls. The "O'Reilly Factor" is balanced with point/counterpoint, left and right viewpoints argued by their proponents consistently - always debating both sides of all issues. Unlike the lamestream media. "Lies and exaggerates"? O'Reilly is nothing but the truth - and that's his schtick - why he calls it the "FACTor" Never watched it have you? Typical uninformed liberal. Got it. My liberal sister is the same way. Blasts Fox, parroting O'Liar, but when pressed, admits she has NO first-hand knowledge - has never watched anything on Fox. |
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« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2015, 05:18:08 PM » |
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Fair and unbiased?????.. The Committee for Justice is a non profit organization started and sponsored by the GOP and sputtered by about 200,000 member... 99% of them are republican...
Just look at the first charge.... over 2 years old (now old "possible' news).... has he been arrested?? impeached- supposedly the Republicans are looking for any way to do that....Yes? No? On is the answer.... any evidence to this charge? smoking gun?
Fair and unbiased, don't think so... and once again... how is it out of ALL those charges, He had not been sanctioned, tried or impeached
I see your link and raise you...
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« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2015, 05:25:35 PM » |
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No, Brad, he hasn't been thrown in jail, impeached or Oswalded -- all of which make me scratch my balding head. You're right on one fulfilled campaign promise though. He has fundamentally changed America.
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« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2015, 05:27:45 PM » |
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From the PPP Pol..... the one that said Fos News is most trusted
PPP asked two questions: a) Who do you trust most, and b) Who do you trust least? Hindraker reported the answer to a). Because the liberal vote was divided, each outlet was lower than Fox, who was number 1, and only one for conservatives.
When asked about a single network, do you trust/distrust, the results look different.
PBS 57/24
Fox 44/42
CNN 40/40
NBC 39/39
ABC 37/38
Comedy Central 29/38
MSNBC 34/44
SO they are both most trusted and Mistrusted.... but some how in their own poll PBS looks to have the better numbers overall...... Hmmmm can you say "spin"????
This is fun with facts by your host Bradvalk......
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« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2015, 05:32:17 PM » |
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It troubles me that anyone would trust any news station to give them correct and unbiased information.
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